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Dec 4, 2021 1:58 PM

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CreepHazard said:
I just cannot believe the quality of CGI, and the Nachregbanger or however it spelt just gliding away in the background when they were airdropped. Also shin vs the morpho was insanely animated
the production delays only improved the anime by a landslide
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Dec 4, 2021 2:01 PM
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Princess and her Knight

Dec 4, 2021 2:10 PM

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The one who called a few weeks ago that Frederica would sneak on was spot on. lol

Overall a freaking good episode that was well worth the wait. Too bad about another break but oh well...hopefully it's the last one.
Dec 4, 2021 2:54 PM

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Kiri likes to get angry lol.

Frederica hiding all the time on Fido.

Shin on battle mode again...
Dec 4, 2021 2:58 PM
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I hope we get to see some more Milize before this season wraps up.

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Dec 4, 2021 3:30 PM
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Shin is suffering again from the old thoughts of killing it was also a very eventful action packed episode I liked that with a darker mood in these battles.
Dec 4, 2021 3:41 PM
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Quick question, will Lena make another appearance on this season? I hope that by the end all we get aren't just 2 or 3 scenes scattered around.
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Dec 4, 2021 3:48 PM

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finally the battle we've been waiting for weeks. Shinei's hella crazed.


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Dec 4, 2021 3:50 PM

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Jesus Christ,Frederica is extremely annoying. Because of her, I don't feel like watching it. Recently, this series has bored me a lot, the characters are bland, the action is not addictive and Frederica ... please, someone kill her. This kid contributes absolutely nothing, and all he can do is scream and cram where she is not needed. I hate this type of characters
Dec 4, 2021 4:01 PM
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"If we have no other choice other than to perform such an inhumane deed, we should just doe along with my ideals."

Damnnn talk about a man of ideals..
This moments are just magnificent.
Dec 4, 2021 4:11 PM

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this fucking show. Season 2 never fails to amaze me. Im fine calling it the AOTY now.
Watched this with headphones and it really felt like the "voices" were in my head. Crazy experience thx to the great directing.

Finally someone called out how dumb the plan to send your A-team on a suicide mission against a replaceable enemy is.

President-kun wants a military revolt the way he acts, glad he stands up to his words but someone who would rather have everyone die than getting his hands dirty is probably not the right guy for the job.

This was the first time we saw the Legion POV like this right? Gives them more depth as a faction when you know they still have some individuality and personality left. I wonder how Mr. Knight will react when he sees his princess is alive and well even though he nearly killed her. A possible revolt against the legion control unit? I wouldnt put it beyond this show if its not as predictable as having Frederica and him meet, probably just dies anyway.

Also, it seems like this whole operation was a legion trap to get rid of the 86 and more specifically capture Shin alive. Thats curious.

Still no sign of Milize.

PS: A special, a recap, a delay and now another delay. The production quality is amazing but this run is definitely cursed.
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Dec 4, 2021 4:28 PM
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Ok episode, Not much has happened... hopefully next one will be better
Dec 4, 2021 4:37 PM
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Gonna be honest, i just watched this right before i was about to go to sleep so i wasnt concentrating too heavy so can someone explain what is going on with the kirya guy and the big machine thing with wings
Dec 4, 2021 4:39 PM

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I feel like I've seen this Episode before...

How often do we set out into this supposed final (final, final, final) battle after which the 86 definitely gonna go back home, definitely, but kinda unlikely survive aswell and be happy?

How often we're going to witness the exact same speech from every character interacting with Shin and his Comrades that almost never add's something new but is eating up minutes of every episode, anyways --> "You are Kids. Come back home. You don't need to do this"

The President-Meltdown-Moment was so weird in that regard, aswell. So IF these Kids die (which is totally expected by everyone, before and after every single battle) he's basically giving up his whole country? How and why was he elected and why is noone in this operating room questioning him about his weird ideals? It WAS totally accepted before that this might be a suicide mission after all xD

I mean ...we're kinda getting the same routine for one and a half Seasons now... minus the female Lead, at this point. The only other character that had more than two character-traits, besides Shin.

I don't get what's so great about this ... o.o



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Dec 4, 2021 4:44 PM

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Damn, so they did manage to lure them out. One Morpho taking out the other... Battle was tense, especially the moment the other Morpho took aim, obviously our 86 aren't going to get killed that easily.

Neither does the Morpho. It actually looked pretty damn sick though, the size of the thing is unreal and no wonder it was going to be a do or die mission. That thing is massive and the way it was out there on it's sniping spot, made it look like some kind of moth.

As I expected, Frederica went and tagged along with Fido after all.
Dec 4, 2021 4:52 PM

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I fucking hate kids


My thoughts exactly. Every time she shows up I get frustrated and annoyed at lack of logic her character exhibits. It's annoying beyond being describable by words.
Dec 4, 2021 5:12 PM

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That Morpho attack was insane. Just beautiful. Sadly, there's another break so the intense feelings keeps getting away. Great episode overall.


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Dec 4, 2021 5:25 PM
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koroshite yaru! koroshite yaru! koroshite yaru! koroshite yaru!
that hit was a really huge impact...sadly no 86 next week: https://anime-86.com/news/?id=59171
looking forward to Episode 20!
Dec 4, 2021 5:51 PM
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Merve2Love said:
I feel like I've seen this Episode before...

How often do we set out into this supposed final (final, final, final) battle after which the 86 definitely gonna go back home, definitely, but kinda unlikely survive aswell and be happy?

How often we're going to witness the exact same speech from every character interacting with Shin and his Comrades that almost never add's something new but is eating up minutes of every episode, anyways --> "You are Kids. Come back home. You don't need to do this"

The President-Meltdown-Moment was so weird in that regard, aswell. So IF these Kids die (which is totally expected by everyone, before and after every single battle) he's basically giving up his whole country? How and why was he elected and why is noone in this operating room questioning him about his weird ideals? It WAS totally accepted before that this might be a suicide mission after all xD

I mean ...we're kinda getting the same routine for one and a half Seasons now... minus the female Lead, at this point. The only other character that had more than two character-traits, besides Shin.

I don't get what's so great about this ... o.o





Because there is no hindsight in thinking that racist ideology is bad heck anything in particular and that everyone will agree with you.

And you're misinterpreting the scene with Ernst. It's because his military generals are panicking (giving up on their people) that the country would be better off destroyed. And him being elected means they know his platform and disagreeing with it, it's all in the conversation. The idealistic nature of the Federacy which spurs people to action contrasts with people in the Republic like Karlstahl who sat by and did nothing in the face of reality.
Dec 4, 2021 6:05 PM
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Great to have 86 Saturday back, and this episode was worth the delay. The scenes with Kirk and Shin were intense, Ernst’s speech was awesome (that shot with the static in the background gave me chills), the action and CGI was phenomenal, and seriously, that Morpho is scary.

Looks like the Legion are trying to keep Shin alive, in which they’ve given him the call sign Baleygr. They want his head intact, not blown to pieces lol.

Frederica as a stowaway was funny, and Fido “sweating” was even funnier. What wasn’t funny was Shin’s order to Frederica if they cannot make it out alive. Yikes.

5/5 episode, the chasing of the Morpho begins.
Dec 4, 2021 6:33 PM
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TheLastRoad said:
Even though I like the way this second part was going (even with the 2 week gaps), this episode was not good as I was expecting it to be. Some scenes were copied directly from the earlier episodes. Some of the scenes after Shin has told his comrades to equip HEAT rounds were coppied directly from the episode 16 (or episode 5 of the second part). There are some other examples but lets cut it short. Also in some of the scenes when the characters were having a conversation, their mouths were not shown which is something bad. And also the representation of the Morpho was not %100 accurate.
But for the rest, CGI and voice actings were nearly perfect. And the Ernst's speech gave me goosebumps. It was just awesome.
Still I am eager to see the next episode.


I had the same feeling. Really enjoyed the shows, but a bit disappointing to see reused scenes even though they delayed 2 episodes so far.
Dec 4, 2021 6:41 PM

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tis was a fine episode i guess Ernst's Speech was the only highlight for me

also don't care for this shin vs fake shin build up that they've been trying to hype up the whole season would've enjoyed it far more if it was actually shin instead of them inserting a shin clone and comparing how so alike they are
Dec 4, 2021 6:44 PM

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Shinkei_Idai said:
koroshite yaru! koroshite yaru! koroshite yaru! koroshite yaru!
that hit was a really huge impact...sadly no 86 next week: https://anime-86.com/news/?id=59171
looking forward to Episode 20!


Edit: Surprise, my old man brain messed up the math. Corrected figures.

So I did some quick math to figure out how much energy one of those shells would have, and I came up with a figure of 227.2 Gigajoule's, or about 54.3 tons of TNT, may sound impressive until you compare it to Little Boy, the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, which released 63 Terrajoules of energy, or 15 THOUSAND tons of TNT.

More impressive though is the amount of energy the Morpho would have to generate in order to accelerate one of those shells up to 8,000 m/s. After doing some more quick math, I estimate that if the Morpho accelerated one of those shells up to 8,000 m/s, it would take 70 Terrawatts of electrical energy. Or about 63% of the total ANNUAL power production of the Three Gorges Dam in China.

NOTE: I am in no way a physicist or an engineer, and I wouldn't be surprised if I got something wrong here. So take these figures with grain of salt. (I already screwed up the math once)
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Dec 4, 2021 7:09 PM

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the production quality this week is top notch, but the writing is the same like before, with short action since its not final fight. the usual dualism of Federacy, and 86 being stubborn in their suicidal mindset (especially shinn).

So, almost everyone focused more on those annoying kid speech by frederica more than the effort she's currently do to correct the 86 and especially Shinn way of thinking? heck, frederica even the one who inform Shinn the real kiriya is somewhere else, so they can avoid the railgun safely.

she's annoying yes, but theres still reason and purpose to her. while 86 are badass as always, but also annoying imo since they like to keep trapping themselves in their own little world and on going prejudice

i thought they're going to use frederica as bait you know, to momentarily distract Morpho, since kiriya dont know if she's alive or not afaik
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Kiriya as No-Face REALLY lured all of them good,

Shin callling her to self-suicide if Shin and the others don't make it, that's a burden too heavy on a child, but at least she willing to see it through that they'd make it out alive.

Another waiting season biweekly.


uh, Kiriya is Pale Rider. No-face clearly the boss or at least higher-ranked of legion army.
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Dec 4, 2021 7:24 PM
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Mr Monster on fire with a deadly painful smirk on his face. Another great episode
Dec 4, 2021 8:13 PM
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the Empress Knight is a little whacko
Dec 4, 2021 9:16 PM

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So the first round of this battle of edge-lords ended in a draw, huh?

By the way, it's good to know Grethe hasn't died... yet.

Another ok/meh episode overall. Action was entertaining as usual but nothing much to say besides that.
Also yes, Frederica indeed used Fido to sneak in. And yes, her attempt at comedy indeed ruined the overall tension this episode was building.
Dec 4, 2021 9:26 PM
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ollythirteen said:
Good ep.

Why is Lena even on the promo poster for this season?

Do you really want to know? Its a spoiler....


I'm not touching that haha!

Your comment gives me hope that she'll show up eventually and in a meaningful way, so I'll be patient.

Perhaps her appearance will be the cliffhanger to end this cour and A-1 might make another season...or not.




Dec 4, 2021 10:02 PM
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Farabeuf said:
Every time Federica shows up it kills the tension in the story for me. I don't understand the appeal.


Because the show doesn't have to be 100% "muh depression", she brings the must needed light and hope to a show that is already edgy and depressive enough, Lena was the one doing it on S1 and now is Frederica
Dec 4, 2021 10:39 PM

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Great Episode!
though I wished for more battle centered episode but it was good enough.
We need to wait more for final battle between shinei and kiriya.
Dec 4, 2021 10:58 PM

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Man, what an episode. The Morpho in all it's glory, looking all majestic as fuck. You can notice that the Shephards still have their personalities like Kiriya, but Legion programming prevents them from acting on their own. That Nouzen blood be wildin.

Papa Ernst was all ready to destroy everything then and there, that monologue was sick. Luckily the Nordlicht survived. Frederica getting discovered inside Fido was pretty hilarious.

Episode felt like 5 minutes, seeing the ED made me punch the air. Plus, there's also another delay next week, though it's already planned way before and not production related. There should be no more delays after next week. Well, hopefully. I don't mind that much waiting for 2 weeks, I am used to it. But, I still can't contain my excitement for the coming episodes, can't wait.
Dec 4, 2021 11:01 PM

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Man I hated the opening song at first but it's really grown on me. Great episode btw hope we'll get see more of Lena in the upcoming eps.
Dec 4, 2021 11:02 PM
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There is a butterfly in the left corner of the screen at 5:57
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XiJinpooh said:
There is a butterfly in the left corner of the screen at 5:57


I think those are edelfalter legion units. Generator Type. A palm-sized butterfly legion with solar powered panel wings. Used by the Morpho to recharge after firing the railgun.
Dec 4, 2021 11:21 PM

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Yeah give me more of that long-range fire scene.

Dec 4, 2021 11:30 PM
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Shishou_23 said:
XiJinpooh said:
There is a butterfly in the left corner of the screen at 5:57


I think those are edelfalter legion units. Generator Type. A palm-sized butterfly legion with solar powered panel wings. Used by the Morpho to recharge after firing the railgun.


ah i see, i thought it was a butterfly :0
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@Levamme yup, sorry I got both characters mixed up.

Kiriya is Pale Rider, because we've seen No-Face before (at least in terms of the vocals). Thanks for clarifying the error.
Dec 5, 2021 1:10 AM

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10/10 episode. The action scenes were amazing as well as all of Kiriya's scenes. Excited to see what comes next!
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Dec 5, 2021 3:03 AM

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Another DELAYYYYYY
Oh well I can't complain when they are giving a high level of content and animation...
READ THE BEGINNING AFTER THE END. Seriously, it is an S-tier manwha and should be added to mal in the future.
Dec 5, 2021 3:21 AM

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Sooo how did Grethe survive and how is she (and other people) just chilling near the war-torn city? Did I miss something? They should be swarmed by the legion, no?

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This may be animation flaw but Morpho seemed too fast for a huge-ass railroad-gun.
Dec 5, 2021 3:28 AM
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Sigmar-Unberogen said:
Sooo how did Grethe survive and how is she (and other people) just chilling near the war-torn city? Did I miss something? They should be swarmed by the legion, no?

P.S
This may be animation flaw but Morpho seemed too fast for a huge-ass railroad-gun.



Well, the focus on Shin and the operation on destroying the Morpho. The Grand Assault is taking territories back meanwhile Spearhead is battling the Morpho and his escorts. It's not that you missed something, it's just the other front is happening behind the screens.
it's implied that she got out of the plane and she used her own Regenleif to get back to the Federacy.
https://imgur.com/lfWQUUz
So the show basically used the "Show, not tell" technique again.

The morpho uses the old high-speed rail tracks and it moves on two rail tracks at the same time and can move up to 200 km/h.
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iVel said:
TheLastRoad said:
Even though I like the way this second part was going (even with the 2 week gaps), this episode was not good as I was expecting it to be. Some scenes were copied directly from the earlier episodes. Some of the scenes after Shin has told his comrades to equip HEAT rounds were coppied directly from the episode 16 (or episode 5 of the second part). There are some other examples but lets cut it short. Also in some of the scenes when the characters were having a conversation, their mouths were not shown which is something bad. And also the representation of the Morpho was not %100 accurate.
But for the rest, CGI and voice actings were nearly perfect. And the Ernst's speech gave me goosebumps. It was just awesome.
Still I am eager to see the next episode.


I had the same feeling. Really enjoyed the shows, but a bit disappointing to see reused scenes even though they delayed 2 episodes so far.


They are going to delay the next episode also. Ep 20 is going to be aired in 18th. Its probably not production issue related but still it is a delay. And the next episode is going to have a lot to animate probably. Hope they will do a lot better this time.





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If I’m being honest I’ve lost track of the plot a bit. Can someone explain please?
Please stop, I don’t want to see any more Dekugo😭
Dec 5, 2021 5:45 AM
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If I’m being honest I’ve lost track of the plot a bit. Can someone explain please?


What part do you want to be explained?
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UTMAN said:
Sonnyman45 said:
If I’m being honest I’ve lost track of the plot a bit. Can someone explain please?


What part do you want to be explained?
I don’t know😂 Everything
Please stop, I don’t want to see any more Dekugo😭
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Sonnyman45 said:
UTMAN said:


What part do you want to be explained?
I don’t know😂 Everything


I mean it would be better if you rewatched the 8 episodes then.

But TL:DR version:

Shin and his friends got saved by the federacy, where the country offered them a peaceful life, but they refused, as they wanted to go back to the war. After a few missions there, the Legion developed the "Morpho" which is an ultra-long-range railway gun, using the "railgun" technology and it is capable of shooting targets from 400 km, which would mean it can target any surviving country's main capital, so it needs to be destroyed ASAP. They send Shin and his team to do that. The legion set up a decoy for Shin as a trap in order to kill him, which failed. Now the Morpho is ordered to retreat into Legion territoryory, and Shin and his friends will begin to chase it down. Also, the "Morpho" is a Shepherd who used to be the guardian knight of the little girl Frederica and was called "Kiri", but he was absolved by the Legion, and Frederica asked Shin to help her put her old knight to rest. But seriously, if you don't remember anything, you better just rewatch the whole thing... it will hinder your experience to enjoy the last 4 episodes if you cannot put the events together.
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Good ep.

Why is Lena even on the promo poster for this season?


Dec 5, 2021 6:49 AM

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Incredible, I saw a lot of budget there, bless A-1

Morpho scared the heck out of everyone lol, it's design was gigantic and somewhat horrific

A cat inside of Fido. Oh wait, that was Frederica! She sure is worried for everyone
Dec 5, 2021 7:19 AM

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Wouldn't be surprised if the Morpho's big ass design was the reason for the production delay this ep lmao, just look at it

Definitely loved the exchange between No Face and Pale Rider(Morpho) and how NF basically can overwrite permissions if any Legion does not follow orders.

Congrats on those that guessed Frederica was following Shin and the gang all along ;)
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ThePoetKiller said:
ollythirteen said:
Good ep.

Why is Lena even on the promo poster for this season?




Okay, first of all, the second part of my post was a gripe about the lack of Lena in this season so far. To me, this season has not been very balanced without her.

Second of all... thank you for using spoiler tags. At this point, my curiosity about the spoiler is off the charts.

I just hope that when she eventually shows up it isn't in a post-credit scene...in the final episode of the season...with no season 2 confirmed (I read in a previous thread on here that the BDs of the first cour didn't sell very well).

ollythirteenDec 5, 2021 7:58 AM




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