Rally against racism, in support of Black Lives Matter held in Tokyo,Osaka

Kayle_x_Morgana said:


What does that picture suppose to even mean? so there were only 120k "right wingers" in 1981? Or extremists?
I detect a large deposit of bullshit yet again from your articles.
It honestly scares me people like you actually exist and think like you do.

Ryuk9428 said:


No, I'm not gonna keep it to myself. My fucking country is being destroyed by the woke ideology. I'm fucking angry and I have a right to be. Lawlessness and hatred towards white men is being promoted based upon a total myth. There is no fucking widespread racism against black people. Black people can get into Harvard with like a 22 on the ACT exam. Everyone bends over backwards to give them every advantage possible.

So to see people acting as if all this violence against us is justified? Its disgusting. The left wing media ought to be ashamed of themselves but of course they aren't, because they have no morals or integrity left. Its all about their agenda to stir up hatred so they can pit the rest of the country against white males.

Gorochu said:

Yeah,there were only 120k right wingers in 1981. You are free to be in denial.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
Yeah bullshit.
What was the population then? 50-60 million? So you are saying that japan was super right wing back then because only 120000 people out of 60 or so million. full of shit.

--ALEX-- said:
WOW!

Very nice to see this.

I really didn't expect Japan to be part of this movement that is going on since they barely have any Non-Japanese citizens.

To say the very least....THANK YOU JAPAN!

-From a very concerned American.

hazarddex said:
honestly do any of you pay attention to anime you watch?

--ALEX-- said:

One thing I NEVER understood is how Right-Wingers like Anime to begin with.

It's NOT American, it's NOT White people, they're NOT christian, they don't speak English, many of them are about accepting people for who they are, they are NOT conservative in the least! And anytime someone is racist or a bigot, that character is usually a villain or antagonist.

Looks like Right-Wingers just wanna fap to 2D girls!

--ALEX-- said:

One thing I NEVER understood is how Right-Wingers like Anime to begin with.

It's NOT American, it's NOT White people, they're NOT christian, they don't speak English, many of them are about accepting people for who they are, they are NOT conservative in the least! And anytime someone is racist or a bigot, that character is usually a villain or antagonist.

Looks like Right-Wingers just wanna fap to 2D girls!

--ALEX-- said:

One thing I NEVER understood is how Right-Wingers like Anime to begin with.

It's NOT American, it's NOT White people, they're NOT christian, they don't speak English, many of them are about accepting people for who they are, they are NOT conservative in the least! And anytime someone is racist or a bigot, that character is usually a villain or antagonist.

Looks like Right-Wingers just wanna fap to 2D girls!

Ryuk9428 said:

No, I'm not gonna keep it to myself. My fucking country is being destroyed by the woke ideology. I'm fucking angry and I have a right to be. Lawlessness and hatred towards white men is being promoted based upon a total myth. There is no fucking widespread racism against black people. Black people can get into Harvard with like a 22 on the ACT exam. Everyone bends over backwards to give them every advantage possible.

So to see people acting as if all this violence against us is justified? Its disgusting. The left wing media ought to be ashamed of themselves but of course they aren't, because they have no morals or integrity left. Its all about their agenda to stir up hatred so they can pit the rest of the country against white males.

deg said:


dude the white genocide or anti-white (paranoia) is not being promoted here at all its the deadly racism of the police is the issue here

And black people are still experiencing police brutality and dying because of it. According to the research group Mapping Police Violence, African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a white person. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/07/black-lives-matters-police-departments-have-long-history-racism/3128167001/

Kayle_x_Morgana said:

Because they commit the most murder/robberiee? Check fbi stats.
Black people get more privilege then us "white privilege folk"

In California universities they make asian/white people get higher scores and minorities can get lower to get in. So oppressed.

12% of the population sure likes the play the victim card a lot. Funny they think when whites become a minority in like 25 years, they think they'll be the majority. Maybe they should stop killing themselves(highest murder rate) first.

deg said:


dude the white genocide or anti-white (paranoia) is not being promoted here at all its the deadly racism of the police is the issue here

And black people are still experiencing police brutality and dying because of it. According to the research group Mapping Police Violence, African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a white person. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/07/black-lives-matters-police-departments-have-long-history-racism/3128167001/

Ryuk9428 said:


I didn't say white genocide. I said hatred towards white people. The Democrat Party promotes hatred towards white people. I don't want to make this another essay post by me, so I will give you a brief description of all the findings in this links.

White cops are no more likely to shoot black suspects, than black cops are. In addition, 90-95% of people shot by cops were actively attacking the police.

https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/the-truth-behind-racial-disparities-in-fatal-police-shootings/?fbclid=IwAR1S3ayGxrH0dBiuS8eDNL4RqWz3b_gNPcAIIBvp7JuC-xoy4Q63IZ8DHxk

Harvard university found "On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account."

https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force?fbclid=IwAR0YfmULirxGFSgMcqYMJ8xAeqYYSTMEJyBtggHLzzxvMYpOEi6kOcP1gcU

Washington Post found that exactly 15 unarmed black suspects were shot by police in 2018.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/?fbclid=IwAR1oLGknM3FbdqMkFda3iBDXQhfTHh06gfG5_VCYjk-xw8ID3ll6UVvPCWc

To give you perspective on how tiny these numbers are...

270 people are killed by lightning strikes in the US every year.
120 people are killed by deer.
100 people are killed by bees.
24 people were killed by champagne corks.

You are more likely to be killed by champagne corks, bees, and deer, than you are to be killed by a police officer if you are an unarmed black suspect. And this is the super liberal Washington Post saying this so don't say its from "right-wing media sources."

You know who does kill other black people a lot? Criminals... Criminals kill 7,500 black people. But instead of focusing on them, let's focus on the 15 unarmed black people killed by police, many of whom were probably killed by other black cops?

--ALEX-- said:

One thing I NEVER understood is how Right-Wingers like Anime to begin with.

It's NOT American, it's NOT White people, they're NOT christian, they don't speak English, many of them are about accepting people for who they are, they are NOT conservative in the least! And anytime someone is racist or a bigot, that character is usually a villain or antagonist.

Looks like Right-Wingers just wanna fap to 2D girls!

epidemia78 said:


LOL you literally seem to think you and your "liberal" friends are the protagonists in a battle shounen and the "conservatives" are the evil villains who do evil stuff for the sake of being evil.

deg said:


ok you got some to me reliable up to date studies on that but is that some conclusive studies already or they say in the end again that further studies are needed to change the scientific consensus? because its the same thing with other social science studies like the scientific consensus in willpower is that its limited but new studies says its not limited at all although they say it needs further studies

but your washingtonpost interactive graph says this though about blacks
249 people shot and killed by police match your filters (25%)

EDIT:

saw the 15 unarmed stats now but for whites its 25 unarmed so not much difference there although ye the blacks are still 15% of the total population only compared to 70% of whites there

but if you are only focusing on the 15 unarmed deaths then ye ok i can understand that too

ymasumac said:
As a non-White female American conservative, I must say that you have an ignorant, bigoted view of American conservatives, many of whom are of Color, secular, and far, FAR more open-minded and accepting of me, for example, than are immigrants of Color.

Cneq said:
ps. being serious though the majority of left-wingers are sheltered rich kids who not only are uneducated about their own country but probably have no clue about the outside world, where as most right-wingers are extremely educated and actually know the history of their own country and love learning about other cultures. yikes

Ryuk9428 said:
Its funny you say that because I've always wondered the complete opposite. Why the fuck do left-wingers like anime?

Anime has ultra feminine girls who devote themselves to their boyfriends, promotes traditional gender roles and nuclear families, it promotes love as the most important thing for both men and women's happiness over career, it does not try to propagandize us into thinking of the world as some kind of hierarchy of oppression with white males oppressing all the women and minorities. It does not encourage women to see men as their competition and oppressors in life but rather encourages a relationship between men and women that is special and harmonious and does not require that we compete with one another. In-fact, there's nothing promoting animosity towards whites, conservatives, or males at all.

Its almost like... Like... Maybe we don't care if Japanese people are white, American, speak English, or are Christian? Maybe a lot of us have had trouble being accepted for who we are too? Maybe we think YOU are the racists and we're sick of watching movies and TV shows that constantly portray us as bad guys?

Peaceful_Critic said:
Oh, perfect time to copy and paste what I said to Rune a while ago:


As for the other part about affirmative action. You do know that black people are more likely to be raised in poverty and all that, I'm assuming. This means that black people on average don't have as many resources to better education and might have to work, on top of schoolwork they already had to do(as they would probably need that money). I think affirmative action is pretty justified for those reasons. America is actually pretty lacking when it comes to economic mobility or people getting out of poverty.

Ryuk9428 said:


Consider that 10 million people a year are arrested by the police, and the 15 unarmed people who got shot seems minuscule.

Its actually amazing it doesn't happen more often. There are almost 1 million police officers in the US, out of 1 million people, there are bound to be some scumbags like Derek Chauvin. But you won't see anybody on the right justifying his actions. Last night I saw Justice Jeanine give an emotional speech on exactly what happened with George Floyd and utterly condemn his actions.

But the fact is, this is really really rare. And these isolated incidents are being twisted by the media in our country to try and force people to accept a narrative that racism is widespread and that the crazy things they are trying to push forward need to be implemented to solve the widespread racism. They want to eliminate the police force now, they want to make white people pay reparations for slavery, in cities that are being looted, people are putting up signs saying "black owned business." In other words, "this business is black, so don't loot us, go loot the white people's businesses."

Not only that, the Democrat Party is trying to push the narrative that white racism is the reason why blacks aren't succeeding to distract from the fact that their own policies are failing black people. All of the major cities and states where black people are failing are controlled by Democrats, often times, black Democrats. The mayor of Minneapolis? Super liberal. Mayor of NYC? Super liberal. Mayor of Baltimore? Black Democrat. Detroit? Another Democrat. governor of Michigan? Super liberal. Mayor of Chicago? An openly gay, black Democrat woman. Atlanta in George? Another black Democrat woman.

So why does the black community keep supporting the party that fails them over and over and over again? The reason why is because of this lie being pushed to them that Republicans are racist, that we hate them, and want them to fail. The real message is simply that Democrat policies don't work, they result in economic and social failure and every time this happens they rely on rich, white conservatives to bail them out of their own financial ruin.

RunescapeIsGreat said:
[You are saying Cneq isn't American, when his family has probably been in America for over a century, yet your family immigrated to America from the Third World probably decades ago.

RunescapeIsGreat said:


Cneq is from Califonia.

His family built America, your family contributed nothing but depressing the wages of hard working Americans, why do you even think people from Latin America were let into America, for cheap labour.

There are the Founding population of America, and there is 1965 cheap labour immigrants.

hazarddex said:
@RunescapeIsGreat

creq is Australian lmao what you talking about even?



ancestors don't mean jack. there achievements are there own. they are not your achievements

that is as dumb as saying because x ancestors dabbled in slavery your responsible for slavery. seriously you don't have responsibility nor do you share the achievements of long dead people. the only thing that matters is what the individual themselves does. not some long dead corpse. sins and achievements of the father is the most asinine mentality to have.

i don't care what some ones ancestors did nor about there failing or achievements. it's what YOU as a individual do that matters.

your pushing the same mentality of people who want compensation and money from the state from white people because some far back asshole enslaved there ancestors centuries ago your literally trying to justify THAT mentality.

Cneq said:


I left the US late 2017, In the 3 years I've been gone Hemet hasn't changed at all since then. Even California as a whole hasn't change besides more homeless throughout LA. But yeah you certainly did prove something, you most likely don't even live in California yourself and truly do have no clue how it is there. Entire towns don't change much in 3 years let alone an entire state, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt considering you're most likely a sheltered little twat who hasn't even left his own town let alone lived internationally.

Peaceful_Critic said:
@Ryuk9428

The race of the cop isn't important, more so if the shooting was race-based(so it'll be better if you look at the victim). As for the second part. Go here and click on the blue part in that article you linked 1st:
"The findings – published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, or PNAS"
And you'll see this study which stated that Black people were more likely more harmless when they were shot which could or might imply bias, though does not by any means proves it:
" Black civilians fatally shot by police (relative to White civilians) are more likely to be unarmed and less likely to pose an immediate threat to officers."-Racial Disparities by Type of Shooting

It's also pretty important to note, that this study specified that it was talking about actual fatalities, not the intent. It also already said early on that 40% of officer's shots miss. So there's that too.
I am also going to mention that the study concluded saying that it couldn't find any racial disparity when they did their models("No model showed significant evidence of anti-Black or -Hispanic disparity, although evidence for anti-Black and anti-Hispanic disparities was stronger when civilians were young (Model 1 vs. 2).")However, even then, the article made it pretty clear that the racial disparity shouldn't be conflated with racial bias which wasn't discussed in the original link either.

As for the second source, I think you should probably do a double-take on this point: "There is no fucking widespread racism against black people."

As for the Havard link. Within 2 sentences it said this:
"On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. "
This implies that there might be some discrimination involved since the disparities can't be fully explained with the behavior of the civilian and the context.

I skipped Washington post because I don't have a subscription to it and it doesn't allow me to see that particular article.

I know you were focused on shootings since those were deg's arguments, but when it comes to other stuff there might an actual bias that could be present when it comes to the police. It's not usually police shootings, in particular, that are criticized as much as police brutality broadly. Which unarmed shootings are used as an example of. Whether these come from bias is unknown as your first source looked at fatal shootings which only a very small portion of were unarmed, so there was no strong data on it and the study didn't even look at intent, to begin with. And the second didn't even talk about unarmed shootings.

Anyway, as to why the police are a focus instead of criminals. Well, societal wise police are expected to be the good guys, so it's disheartening and scary to hear that they might be killing unarmed black people for no good reason or would beat them up. Criminals are who the police are supposed to catch. If it is the case that they might be hateful and violent towards black people as well, then there's an internal problem with the system.

@RunescapeIsGreat

Closing for gaps due to how poorly America's economic mobility is a way to make up for the more extreme discrimination in the past that made it so that black people were in poverty. It's not there to screw over white people. Moreso to help black people and acknowledge that they had more obstacles when getting to the same place.

Peaceful_Critic said:
@Ryuk9428

The race of the cop isn't important, more so if the shooting was race-based(so it'll be better if you look at the victim). As for the second part. Go here and click on the blue part in that article you linked 1st:
"The findings – published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, or PNAS"
And you'll see this study which stated that Black people were more likely more harmless when they were shot which could or might imply bias, though does not by any means proves it:
" Black civilians fatally shot by police (relative to White civilians) are more likely to be unarmed and less likely to pose an immediate threat to officers."-Racial Disparities by Type of Shooting

It's also pretty important to note, that this study specified that it was talking about actual fatalities, not the intent. It also already said early on that 40% of officer's shots miss. So there's that too.
I am also going to mention that the study concluded saying that it couldn't find any racial disparity when they did their models("No model showed significant evidence of anti-Black or -Hispanic disparity, although evidence for anti-Black and anti-Hispanic disparities was stronger when civilians were young (Model 1 vs. 2).")However, even then, the article made it pretty clear that the racial disparity shouldn't be conflated with racial bias which wasn't discussed in the original link either.

As for the second source, I think you should probably do a double-take on this point: "There is no fucking widespread racism against black people."

As for the Havard link. Within 2 sentences it said this:
"On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. "
This implies that there might be some discrimination involved since the disparities can't be fully explained with the behavior of the civilian and the context.

I skipped Washington post because I don't have a subscription to it and it doesn't allow me to see that particular article.

I know you were focused on shootings since those were deg's arguments, but when it comes to other stuff there might an actual bias that could be present when it comes to the police. It's not usually police shootings, in particular, that are criticized as much as police brutality broadly. Which unarmed shootings are used as an example of. Whether these come from bias is unknown as your first source looked at fatal shootings which only a very small portion of were unarmed, so there was no strong data on it and the study didn't even look at intent, to begin with. And the second didn't even talk about unarmed shootings.

Anyway, as to why the police are a focus instead of criminals. Well, societal wise police are expected to be the good guys, so it's disheartening and scary to hear that they might be killing unarmed black people for no good reason or would beat them up. Criminals are who the police are supposed to catch. If it is the case that they might be hateful and violent towards black people as well, then there's an internal problem with the system.

@RunescapeIsGreat

Making up for gaps due to how poorly America's economic mobility is a way to make up for heaver and more extreme discrimination in the past that made it so that black people were in poverty.

RunescapeIsGreat said:




If you don't care about your people's achievements, its because your people achieved nothing, and you wish to take other peoples inheritance.

RunescapeIsGreat said:


They weren't just stuck in the poor parts of the cities, those areas of the cities were majority black, it was their neighbourhoods. So blacks couldn't get a good education if they went to school with black people. You are being very racist, as you are saying blacks can't prosper without living around whites and they can't get a good education unless they go to school with whites.

--ALEX-- said:

This could be the dumbest thing so far in the thread...

#1 In his own profile...it says he's from Australia, do you need a fucking map?

#2 What does family have to do with the individual?

Last time I checked the ideals and viewpoints you have are your own, and has nothing to do with family.

And SORRY...but in America, we do NOT have "Ethnic Americans"....it doesn't matter if I'm a first generation American or a 10th generation American....we're the same by law.

Cneq said:

which is why we should all respect the efforts of those who died for the US and those who built it..

hazarddex said:


but one should not claim there achievements as there own and use them as an excuse to think themselves better then others.

who deserves more respect the one who flaunts there ancestors corpse and claim it as there own achievement while contributing nothing themselves.

or those that work hard and do what they do despite there ancestors past be it ill or good.

Cneq said:
You literally just quoted what I said, so why are you replying to me like it's somehow related to the individual?

I said it's important to respect the efforts of those who came before, especially as someone newly migrating into a country [or if your parents recently migrated before you were born] you should realize how much effort, blood and death made it possible that you were even born in this place called "American" in the first place, because without the efforts of those who came before all these people who have fled from 3rd world countries may of lived completely different lives if their parents didn't migrate.

For example as a migrant to Australia myself despite being "legally" Australian, would I go as far as to say I'm on the same level as those who's families literally shaped and founded this country? Not in a million years, that's completely absurd.

So it has nothing to do with the individual, it's simply respecting the history of the US and the efforts that made it to what is is today.

Cneq said:
For example as a migrant to Australia myself despite being "legally" Australian, would I go as far as to say I'm on the same level as those who's families literally shaped and founded this country? y.

hazarddex said:


respecting history is fine, but we should not treat the persons of today based on the actions of there ancestors or parents.

nor should it be used to determine who gets better treatment.

it disgusts me to think that it was once common to murder a new born baby merely because there parents were criminals or roughless dictators.

or treat one as royalty because there parent was the king or a saint..

if your ancestor had great and stunning achievements great i am happy for them, but that has no baring on how i should view you.

regardless of lineage one should be treated on what they do with there life not what there ancestors or parents did.

hazarddex said:


respecting history is fine, but we should not treat the persons of today based on the actions of there ancestors or parents.

nor should it be used to determine who gets better treatment.

it disgusts me to think that it was once common to murder a new born baby merely because there parents were criminals or roughless dictators.

or treat one as royalty because there parent was the king or a saint..

if your ancestor had great and stunning achievements great i am happy for them, but that has no baring on how i should view you.

regardless of lineage one should be treated on what they do with there life not what there ancestors or parents did.

really? because i don't know if you are aware but Australia was a prison colony.

you do yourself a disservice by saying you are worse then criminals.

i am sure there were good people among them, but that does not mean you should view yourself as bellow people of today because of there ancestors.

nor should Australians think badly of themselves because some of there ancestors were criminals.

what the people of the past did is what the people of the past did.

they have no baring on that of todays people

Cneq said:

It's common decency, for example you visit someones house, would you treat them any differently as individuals? Not really. But would you jump on their sofa, kick your feet up on the counter and demand them to go get you a drink? Of course not lmao

That is because you're aware that you're a guest and therefore should have a bit of respect for the place you're currently in/residing.

Goes for both visiting countries and living in countries, respect the culture, respect the people and most of all respect the efforts of those who made it all possible.

Cneq said:

Lmao those "criminals" made a country and they were basically just bread thieves that the British decided to completely imprison.

Are you so naive/ignorant that "criminal" automatically signifies the worth of someones life? or their achievements?

hazarddex said:


house =/= country

and if your both born it doesn't matter if some one has a longer family line of being born there your still both citizens of that country. that doesn't make the person with the longer family line of being born in america a better person.

taking your own analogy

would you roll over and lick a persons feet because they tell you too and give you the reason was because there ancestors lived there longer? Obviously not unless you had no self respect.

also

Cneq said:
Dude are you actually blind? THE INDIVIDUAL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, NOR DOES BEING A PART OF A LONGER LINEAGE = SUPERIOR.

Read my dude, take a breath and read lmao

You should RESPECT the country you inhabit to a healthy degree and RESPECT the culture you have migrated into and attempt to assimilate into it. You should also RESPECT the efforts of those who made the country the place it is today.

This is literally what's required and asked of you when you get a green card to the US and even in Australia you are required to take a full history class to become a citizen, the very idea of "migration" is that you are coming as a guest to a country for a better life and only by staying there for a number of years and become one with their culture are you truly able to become a part of it, and that takes respect for the people who you are coming into their home, ALL of their homes and the respect for the history of their country.

Literally on the application when you choose to migrate, that is what asked of those migrating to the US or Australia.

So when it comes to people born in the US? Like I've said your family lineage means jack shit, ALL Americans need to respect their country and those who make it possible. PERIOD.

hazarddex said:


so then you would agree that protesting (not talking about rioting or looting.) against the death of a fellow citizen at the hands of a government and that police brutality which goes back to what the founding of the country is against is not disrespecting ones country as far as the U.S goes.

Cneq said:

So then, people say this "well there were still peaceful protests happening!" and that in itself was the problem and the exact cause for the riots. As more and more support came for these "protests" more and more people came out of the woodwork to use it as a guise to cause chaos and looting, so then what was the solution for that?

at least until all these morons get sick.

hazarddex said:


I would like to point out several things that some of the most well know peaceful protest happened with people still being violent around the protests.

see MLK and Maclom X

MLK didn't stop protesting for equal rights just because Maclom X's group were vandalizing and assaulting people.

similar things happened with gaunhdi. where there were people taking advantage of his peaceful activism to cause violence.

should they have gone.

"Welp some people are being violent pricks guess it's time to give up."

so why should peaceful protest stop just because some pricks are looting and causing trouble?

as for the whole pandemic thing. (as well as the illegal thing.)

many peaceful protests in the u.s woman suffrage, protests against Vietnam war, and again MLK did it despite knowing they might die or be hurt as a result.

such as a black person refusing to give up there seat on a bus despite knowing it was "illegal." and they might die or be beaten for it.

outside the U.S example a Buddhist monk burned himself to death in a peaceful protest against war.

a old sane goes the differences between a foolish and heroic act are results.

my questions for you is do you believe it's moronic to risk death for what you believe in?