| Just end it with a harem. No girls feelings get hurt. Or no girls just clinging to him till he says yes. |
| Either the Love Hina route and have him pick one or the Smartphone isekai route and have him pick them all. i hate when they pull shit like Bokuben and you watch multiple seasons for NOTHING to happen in the end. Fuck Oreimo had a better ending then that |
Saga22 said: Something like what they did in Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei (manga) or Fruit of Grisaia. Definitely not parallel endings, which is a pathetic way of the author of not enraging the reader. Isn't fruit of grisia an adaptation of a VN where the player gets to choose a girl? |
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| As long as it's not a DAMN meme ending as in 5-toubun no Hanayome manga. I'm happy with what ever the MC wants. |
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| With the protagonist convulsing while dying of AIDS, gonorrhea, syphilis, among other diseases. |
horridhendy said: ysphyr said: Haha, I actually watch them too! Just can't help myself. But the last one I saw - Stand My Heroes - was so bad, that I dropped it. Even though all the guys were hot and handsome. But MC was... let's say, dumb annoying b-tch is the nicest thing I can call her. Try playing Love 365, it's a mobile app, they have tons of stories with hadsome boys (even with older dudes if you're into them!). You can read several chapters of each route for free, just to figure out if you're into it or not. They list all the info on each guy, like age, occupation, personality, background, so it's easy to find the right one. And they even provide VA for some stories! Kamisama Hajimemashita is a great story in itself, even though I don't like Tomoe that much. Give second season a chance, it's great! And there will be this cutiepie later in the story Also, Tomoe's past is revealed in Kako-hen and there will be a love triangle like in Inuyasha, but not really, because there is a twist. I can only say one thing - Nanami is the best, she deserves every guy that falls for her. Also, if you like stories with cute yokai boys - try Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi. It has a foxy yokai too, but he's actually good-looking and has a sweet personality Thanks for the suggestion! That's great - I'll definitely give the mobile game a go since I know where to start with that! YES! I certainly am into older guys, there's not enough hot older guys in reverse-harems imo, since they're often school boys. Not exactly complaining though :) I really should give Kamisama Hajimemashita S2 another go. I liked the first season but I watched it straight after I watched my favourite anime (since it was recommended to Inuyasha) and I think it suffered by the comparison for me. Not that it wasn't good, it just had a tough act to follow. I often find that the anime I watch directly after a favourite of mine suffers from that! Not sure if this is just me being weird or it's a common thing? I totally get that! I constantly have a problem like this after watching a great show. Like I remember finishing Kimi ni Todoke and I craved more sweet romances like this... but every single anime seemed just meh compared to it. So it's better take a break and watch something of a completely different genre. Helps me a lot. If you'd play Love 365, I highly recommend these 2 hunks They are older and the stories contain some nice steamy moments. But I've also noticed you're more into short-haired manly guys, so this one will probably be a good match (he's a bit younger though) I also plan to start playing Love & Producer since they have dudes like this |
| A harem genre is destined to be controversial in its ending no matter what they do, because a winner has to be chosen among them, and if not and say it gets a harem ending people are still gonna get pissed cause its basically wish fulfillment self insert MC. |
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| When the MC actually picks a girl instead of having it end with no one chosen |
| Here's a suggestion from my part: it's not something that can be used to resolve every harem anime, but it's definitely something that a series or two can choose to follow. If the main character is going to be even something close to the archetype that we all know, then how about just distributing his harem away? Instead of making the character a self-insert, just go beta and comment on how terrible a character and shallow a person he (or she, let's not discriminate) is, and as time goes on, just hook up your other characters with someone else. You can build up other (side) characters, show us how they're infinitely better than the MC, and let them take some of the burden off of him. Then, in the very end, you can question who really won: the harem character that got the lead, or the other members that are in an arguably healthier relationship that seems to be better for them in every way. Also, here's an idea: how about the first choice not be the last? I know it's not always the case, but why do so many harem series end the instant the MC makes a decision? Not all relationships last, you know. What's the point of showing us how yandere some of the characters are if they just give up for the sake of a conclusion? |
| the best way is to end it 10 episodes early |
| If we’ve learned anything, school days has the best ending that everyone loves. |
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Saga22 said: Something like what they did in Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei (manga) or Fruit of Grisaia. Definitely not parallel endings, which is a pathetic way of the author of not enraging the reader. I totally agree with you there on the parallel endings. It just feels like a cheap way to wrap things up and nothing but a device used to supposedly "satisfy" everyone, but the fact of the matter is that no ending can be considered definitive if there's multiple. I want to be able to look back on a series and say, "Oh damn, so Fumino won." or "Oh damn, so we'll never know who won." but that can't really be done with parallel endings. Everything is laid out flat for us. There's absolutely no fun in an ending like that. |
| They all stay "friends" with mc like harvest moon fomt but without harvest goddess then they marry someone else and mc is left alone |
Mirai said: Have the MC come to his senses and start dating his sidekick male friend. Ahhh that visual novel in Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun. that would be my ideal ending for everything really Or the girls dump the trash guy and just date each other |
| Main character dies and the girls create a polygamous relationship with one another. |
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| Happy ending and the mc married all the gal |
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| There are three possible conclusions that would satisfy me. 1. Harem ending (the protagonist convincing all the girls that they can share him) 2. The protagonist ending up like in the anime Yosuga no Sora or School days. 3. The protagonist choosing the villain, or girl capable of causing the most damage, and defusing her. |
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| well, you let the childhood friend win |
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| Harem end is the only objectively good end. Otherwise, what's even the point of having a harem, especially in the fictional world of anime? |
| End it with fire As it should be That is the only right way to end an harem anime |
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| I know I'm quite alone in this, both with other H&E folk and people at large, but I like inconclusive endings here. I like harem as a concept for the large number of attractive female characters it can show off in a way that's more related to romance than you can get from a slice of life or something. I don't like the idea of actually being in a relationship with multiple women, that doesn't appeal to me much. Harem ends don't appeal to me much because of that. Why would I be pleased to sit there and watch some other dipshit shack up with like, 5 women at once. I don't even want it myself. And that's assuming that it's a situation where nobody is losing and everybody involved is 100% happy with the outcome, like Isekai Smartphone. I take issues with the concept of stuff like Momo's harem plan in To LOVE-Ru: Darkness because - aside from how self-serving it was - it kind of carried undertones/subtext of pressuring the female cast into simply accepting "The only way I can be with Rito is to be his side bitch." And I think TLR's haremettes are the best out there. I love that cast of characters by and large. I didn't like the idea of them a lot them basically accepting throwing away everything they're doing to be the future Space Emperor's side bitches. It didn't pan out that way, and I'm happy about that. I definitely don't like choice endings. They tend to be predictable which can create a sense of "This side girl I really like is just going to get hurt in the end," but whether they are or aren't is irrelevant because it's just depressing watching a ton of people get rejected in the first place. They can handle it like OreShura's anime ending, where it just makes all of the losing girls look really pathetic and comes off as very mean-sprited, or they can sit there and clap for them, which is just...sad to look at. "Yes, I fell in love but I got passed over for this other girl. Now I am happy." It's not pleasant. I don't watch or enjoy harem anime for their realistic dynamics or harsh takes on seeing people get hurt, so seeing the excess of it bothers me. Even the more serious ones tend to be rooted heavily in idealism. I want stuff in this genre to be pleasant. It doesn't need to be like, humorous, it can be a straight up action harem and still be pleasant. I just love the good-time aspect of it and choice endings undermine that far too much, even if they try to downplay it. So, inconclusive endings. I don't care about the ending of series like it's what's going to define the whole thing for harems. I don't recall a single harem series that I watched with the mentality of "Oh boy I wonder how this is going to resolve itself," it was all in journey between point A and point B that made the ones I really like completely sweep me away. Interactions, scenes, moments. Less about the narrative itself. So Inconclusive endings shirk the two problems I have with choice versus harem end while (usually) maintaining the status quo - and, if it's one I really like, the status quo will be things that made me latch onto the series will continue as normal. I like the idea of that. While it's not bombastic and it doesn't make a statement, I don't think harems really need to strive for that because that seems fucking stupid for a harem to do. Some genres, like thrillers I guess, benefit from that type of narrative that is point A to point B and is all about seeing how it resolves itself. I do not think harem is a genre that will benefit from trying to strive from that. You can end up like Nisekoi is and like Gotoubun is already turning into - both harems heavily focused on reaching their resolution - which is largely being remembered and discussed negatively by the people who used to be your audience. Which might be fine with some, but I think it sounds kind of shitty no matter which way it's spun. So yeah, unironically, I like inconclusive endings the most. Draw me into the series through your cast and other strengths and then let the status quo keep itself in peace. |
ManabanMar 9, 2020 3:25 AM
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| Harem ending. Having more that half of the cast refused and heart broken is just cruel and painful to watch. |
| Let the MC pick a girl who is not the obvious main girl we met in episode 1. |
| well harem without fantasy/supernatural is shit tho, never trust it harem should be done with harem ending. |
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zalapeno said: well harem without fantasy/supernatural is shit tho, never trust it harem should be done with harem ending. Harem end seems disrespectful to the girls you've spent 12+ episodes with. Just watch hentai. |
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epidemia78 said: zalapeno said: well harem without fantasy/supernatural is shit tho, never trust it harem should be done with harem ending. Harem end seems disrespectful to the girls you've spent 12+ episodes with. Just watch hentai. wut lmao Like, I get that Harem&Ecchi go together often and have a fanbase that's one in the same more or less, but they are far from mutually inclusive. Hell, someone did the math a while back and there are less series featuring both tags than there are anime featuring only harem or only ecchi. Last I checked, this thread is only talking about harem, which can exist completely free of sexualization. Where the fuck is "Just watch hentai" coming from? |
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epidemia78 said: zalapeno said: well harem without fantasy/supernatural is shit tho, never trust it harem should be done with harem ending. Harem end seems disrespectful to the girls you've spent 12+ episodes with. Just watch hentai. disrespect? where does the disrespect comes from? also why did you tell me to watch hentai lol |
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Manaban said: epidemia78 said: Harem end seems disrespectful to the girls you've spent 12+ episodes with. Just watch hentai. wut lmao Like, I get that Harem&Ecchi go together often and have a fanbase that's one in the same more or less, but they are far from mutually inclusive. Hell, someone did the math a while back and there are less series featuring both tags than there are anime featuring only harem or only ecchi. Last I checked, this thread is only talking about harem, which can exist completely free of sexualization. Where the fuck is "Just watch hentai" coming from? It's really hard to imagine a scenario that is not ridiculously contrived that would explain why badass magical alien warriors and high school swim team champions and any of the other "perfect girl" archetypes that make up a typical harem would agree to share one guy. |
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zalapeno said: epidemia78 said: Harem end seems disrespectful to the girls you've spent 12+ episodes with. Just watch hentai. disrespect? where does the disrespect comes from? also why did you tell me to watch hentai lol It is a popular response to people who like this type of thing. Always carries the subtext of "If I can try to pressure people to do something else, it means this other thing might stop being made." Only the type of people sensitive to be mad about a type of entertainment they don't want to watch being made will say it. epidemia78 said: Manaban said: wut lmao Like, I get that Harem&Ecchi go together often and have a fanbase that's one in the same more or less, but they are far from mutually inclusive. Hell, someone did the math a while back and there are less series featuring both tags than there are anime featuring only harem or only ecchi. Last I checked, this thread is only talking about harem, which can exist completely free of sexualization. Where the fuck is "Just watch hentai" coming from? It's really hard to imagine a scenario that is not ridiculously contrived that would explain why badass magical alien warriors and high school swim team champions and any of the other "perfect girl" archetypes that make up a typical harem would agree to share one guy. I literally was just asking you "Why are you telling him to watch hentai when it's not related here?" What the fuck are you talking about and how is it in any way relevant to the question? |
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zalapeno said: epidemia78 said: Harem end seems disrespectful to the girls you've spent 12+ episodes with. Just watch hentai. disrespect? where does the disrespect comes from? also why did you tell me to watch hentai lol What is so hard to understand? Re-read what I said. Why spend multiple hours characterizing these girls with an aura of perfection only to have them willingly enter into a degenerate lifestyle? |
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epidemia78 said: zalapeno said: disrespect? where does the disrespect comes from? also why did you tell me to watch hentai lol What is so hard to understand? Re-read what I said. Why spend multiple hours characterizing these girls with an aura of perfection only to have them willingly enter into a degenerate lifestyle? Because getting latched onto a character is a different type of appeal than just seeing them get banged and that's it. It's a crazy idea, sure, but I might be on to something. |
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Manaban said: epidemia78 said: What is so hard to understand? Re-read what I said. Why spend multiple hours characterizing these girls with an aura of perfection only to have them willingly enter into a degenerate lifestyle? Because getting latched onto a character is a different type of appeal than just seeing them get banged and that's it. It's a crazy idea, sure, but I might be on to something. Even if the show remains in pg-13 territory, a harem end implies orgies or at the very least multiple pregnancies which is really weird and would devalue the girls and most likely run counter to their established personality. |
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epidemia78 said: Manaban said: Because getting latched onto a character is a different type of appeal than just seeing them get banged and that's it. It's a crazy idea, sure, but I might be on to something. Even if the show remains in pg-13 territory, a harem end implies orgies or at the very least multiple pregnancies which is really weird and would devalue the girls and most likely run counter to their established personality. But that's not what people are watching. That's not what the show is doing or even trying to do in pretty much every case. This is entirely removed from how it's appealing to its viewer. This is like telling somebody to just go watch hentai instead of a romance because the characters would have sex off-screen at some point after they hook up at the end of the series. It is absolutely insane. |
ManabanMar 9, 2020 6:18 AM
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Manaban said: epidemia78 said: Even if the show remains in pg-13 territory, a harem end implies orgies or at the very least multiple pregnancies which is really weird and would devalue the girls and most likely run counter to their established personality. But that's not what people are watching. That's not what the show is doing or even trying to do in pretty much every case. This is entirely removed from how it's appealing to its viewer. This is like telling somebody to just go watch hentai instead of a romance because the characters would have sex off-screen at some point after they hook up at the end of the series. It is absolutely insane. Again, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Watching hours and hours of characterization only to have best girl and worst girl and all the other girls give up their dignity to join in a fucked up relationship is next level perversion even worse than tentacle hentai. |
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| I think any of them can be done well in all truth even the recent multiple ending or inclusive one as long as it's done well |
epidemia78 said: Manaban said: But that's not what people are watching. That's not what the show is doing or even trying to do in pretty much every case. This is entirely removed from how it's appealing to its viewer. This is like telling somebody to just go watch hentai instead of a romance because the characters would have sex off-screen at some point after they hook up at the end of the series. It is absolutely insane. Again, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Watching hours and hours of characterization only to have best girl and worst girl and all the other girls give up their dignity to join in a fucked up relationship is next level perversity even worse than tentacle hentai. I don't understand why you're telling him to watch hentai like it's an adequate substitute for an entirely different type of show that does entirely different things. Which is what I asked at first, never got a remotely relevant response to, and now I'm being subjected to your word salad ranting about degeneracy. |
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Manaban said: epidemia78 said: Again, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Watching hours and hours of characterization only to have best girl and worst girl and all the other girls give up their dignity to join in a fucked up relationship is next level perversity even worse than tentacle hentai. I don't understand why you're telling him to watch hentai like it's an adequate substitute for an entirely different type of show that does entirely different things. Which is what I asked at first, never got a remotely relevant response to, and now I'm being subjected to your word salad ranting about degeneracy. How do you explain a harem end without it seeming humiliating and degrading? Especially considering the genre is all about coming to like a bevy of girls with strong individual personalities over a period of time. This how you treat the girls you admire? If harem ends were the norm for the genre, it would have died out a long time ago because only weirdos want to see their favorite girls humiliated. |
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epidemia78 said: Manaban said: I don't understand why you're telling him to watch hentai like it's an adequate substitute for an entirely different type of show that does entirely different things. Which is what I asked at first, never got a remotely relevant response to, and now I'm being subjected to your word salad ranting about degeneracy. How do you explain a harem end without it seeming humiliating and degrading? Especially considering the genre is all about coming to like a bevy of girls with strong individual personalities over a period of time. This how you treat the girls you admire? If harem ends were the norm for the genre, it would have died out a long time ago because only weirdos want to see their favorite girls humiliated. Why is hentai a suitable replacement for harem anime. For the love of god. |
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Manaban said: epidemia78 said: How do you explain a harem end without it seeming humiliating and degrading? Especially considering the genre is all about coming to like a bevy of girls with strong individual personalities over a period of time. This how you treat the girls you admire? If harem ends were the norm for the genre, it would have died out a long time ago because only weirdos want to see their favorite girls humiliated. Why is hentai a suitable replacement for harem anime. For the love of god. Hentai is a suitable replacement if the cheap, degrading harem end is something you enjoy watching. |
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