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Jun 27, 2019 7:04 AM

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Japan needs fan service to reduce the decrease in population
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Jun 27, 2019 7:38 AM

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Yes. Even from the word, we know that it's necessary. It is made to serve their fans with something "ero". But, they (those production team) need to consider many things before adding that fan-service thing. Starting from, the series genre, plot, audiences, etc.

More importantly, as long as fan-service doesn't ruin one great series with a decent plot, it's okay then.

Jun 27, 2019 12:23 PM

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DoruCatana said:
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... It's from Guilty Crown, as the guy said in his post.


I saw Guilty Crown and I don't remember that scene at all...the girl from the gif looks more like Okita Sawa from Tari Tari then any female character from Guilty Crown.... based on my ,,research'' on MAL at least....nevermind...I don't care that much about those bikini. :-p >_<
I'm pretty sure that that is Hare Menjou.

As in, that girl who is Shu's classmate and
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GlennMagusHarveyJun 27, 2019 12:28 PM
Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut.
Jun 27, 2019 1:05 PM
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Depends on the subject matter, but I have no problems with it.
Jun 27, 2019 1:09 PM

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As I already said in another thread, of course is necessary.
Do you eat cereals without milk? No you don't right? (if you do then you should perish)
same thing, anime without fanservice is like cereals without milk. No one does that, and no one should do it. It's a sin tbh.

Or even worse, you can say that anime without fanservice is like putting the milk BEFORE adding the cereals. If cereals without milk is a sin then putting the milk before is your way straight for hell.
Jun 27, 2019 1:12 PM
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Manaban said:
Fanservice is always needed, it's the best thing anime has to offer

Only if you’re a horny teenager who thinks with his dick and think that any anime that doesn’t have pretty waifus to look at is trash.
Jun 27, 2019 1:21 PM

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It's used a selling point to advertise to the older viewers of the medium.
Jun 27, 2019 1:40 PM
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MeisterDM said:

Only if you’re a horny teenager who thinks with his dick and think that any anime that doesn’t have pretty waifus to look at is trash.

imagine thinking a show without pretty waifus can be good

Jun 27, 2019 2:12 PM

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_cjessop18_ said:
Japan needs fan service to reduce the decrease in population
I think it might increase it.

The problem with all the "instagram reality" is that actual real life men start to look insufficient by comparison. Why go for 3d when 2d looks so much better?


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Jun 27, 2019 2:14 PM

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Manaban said:
MeisterDM said:

Only if you’re a horny teenager who thinks with his dick and think that any anime that doesn’t have pretty waifus to look at is trash.

imagine thinking a show without pretty waifus can be good


Well Kaiji's good, which we seem to agree on.

OT: It's not necessary in the sense that entertainment is not a necessity. But a piece of entertainment needs no justification to exist other than having an active audience for it.
Jun 27, 2019 2:15 PM
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Orhunaa said:


Well Kaiji's good, which we seem to agree on.

imagine thinking kaiji isn't a pretty waifu

Jun 27, 2019 2:18 PM

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Manaban said:
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Well Kaiji's good, which we seem to agree on.

imagine thinking kaiji isn't a cute waifu


Touché my sir. I concede.


Kaiji best boi
AuronJun 27, 2019 2:33 PM
Jun 27, 2019 2:22 PM

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Orhunaa said:
Manaban said:

imagine thinking kaiji isn't a cute waifu


Touché my sir. I concede.


character limit is a bitch
Just put hidden messages in your posts like this, don't fill it with bullshit though.


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Jun 27, 2019 2:25 PM

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Lunilah said:
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Touché my sir. I concede.


character limit is a bitch
Just put hidden messages in your posts like this, don't fill it with bullshit though.


I used to put some tiny text saying "mandatory text for filling purposes" or something like that and got a warning and then get banned. Sometimes they're okay with it, sometimes they're not for some reason. It's up to mod's whims.

Edit: Oh sorry, realized I didn't highlight the entirety of it. Guess I'll add some tangentially related thing next time.
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Jun 27, 2019 2:26 PM

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Stlastd said:
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Because that's the only thing the moralfag complains about.

Plotless cute and tender moments are just as much "fan-service" but the sex-negative moralfag has nothing to complain there.

I am not complaining or judging anything. I was just curious about as to why sexual fanservice exists when it can shrink the number of viewers who dislike it in a plot driven show.
I don't have the rights or the will to question someone's morality.


Though once again in your case you have actually prove it does hurt the actual audience. Anecdotal info isn't going to help there. When you look at many shows that attempt to use it in a heavy fashion they are going after niche audiences intentionally. Most fanservice in many action shonen probably do get many Japanese teens to read it. So until you provide proof that by eliminating fanserivce anime would be more popular I just reject the idea in general. There are plenty of anime that have no fanservice whatsoever and don't end up very popular as well as tons that do and end up being big hits.
Jun 27, 2019 2:31 PM
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Personally, I see it as being a loaded question to ask if a 'method of artistic expression' is necessary.
On top of that, much of anime culture is rooted in either getting used to, avoiding, or enjoying fan service for the sake of memes and merchandise.
Do I think it's 'necessary'? Absolutely not.
Is it insulting and does nothing if not severely objectify (in most cases) women? Hell yeah.
Do anime creators have the right to put it in their shows and in their manga? Yeah.
Just means a certain demographic might not watch your show.

Besides, obviously everyone here knows that every anime doesn't have fan service- but if you want to sexually entertain your audience of choice in a certain way, then you definitely need fan service.

Fan-service is just another part of visual media.
Jun 27, 2019 2:32 PM

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Orhunaa said:
Lunilah said:
Just put hidden messages in your posts like this, don't fill it with bullshit though.


I used to put some tiny text saying "mandatory text for filling purposes" or something like that and got a warning and then get banned. Sometimes they're okay with it, sometimes they're not for some reason. It's up to mod's whims.

Edit: Oh sorry, realized I didn't highlight the entirety of it. Guess I'll add some tangentially related thing next time.
I think it's whether or not it's reported unless a mod is reading every single post in a thread.


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Jun 27, 2019 5:15 PM

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Yes, yes it is very necessary, but it has to choose it's moments and it has to be done tastefully, or it gets turned it to trash.
Jun 27, 2019 7:45 PM

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Come now, is anything in this medium? O.o
Jun 27, 2019 9:38 PM

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Obviously, it is not necessary. That can be said for most things. I'm not generally a fan of fanservice, but there are shows that aren't made for me and that's ok.

Certain works will focus on it, certain works won't.
Jul 2, 2019 2:52 AM

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I love fanservice, I rather hate the exaggeration of rain causing people to instantly get sick. That is cheesy.
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Jul 4, 2019 10:09 AM
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I happen to like fan service a lot when it’s put in appropriately (a harem anime should be filled with it), but when it’s squeezed in for little to no reason, I feel it takes away from the show. A good example of this would be Shokugeki no Soma. An anime that is about cooking, that actually teaches good recipes and scientific cooking facts, is really weakened by the amount of useless fan service that was put into it. Still a good show though.
Jul 4, 2019 10:16 AM

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In my personal opinion, if a series that is not (let's say...) fully oriented to ecchi, I believe that is has a weak (or non-existent) storyline. They usually rely on showing sexy characters (doesn't matter if male or female) just to cover the fact that their characters doesnt's have a credible personality or a good development, or their story isn't so interesting, or it isn't so well written enough to catch your attention without showing boobs, butts and cringey (and forced) "sexy" situations.

In short... No. It isn't necessary, if you're not an ecchi series...
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Jul 4, 2019 10:40 AM

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Japan has fan-service and incest themes in their Anime. But then blur out private parts in their porn. It's a weird country.
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Jul 7, 2019 1:26 AM
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Firestrike2000 said:
I happen to like fan service a lot when it’s put in appropriately (a harem anime should be filled with it), but when it’s squeezed in for little to no reason, I feel it takes away from the show. A good example of this would be Shokugeki no Soma. An anime that is about cooking, that actually teaches good recipes and scientific cooking facts, is really weakened by the amount of useless fan service that was put into it. Still a good show though.

Seriously even though people may disagree I really felt the fanservice in food wars to be unnecessary and sometimes irritating.I so much wanted to show it to my mom but.. nevermind.
Jul 7, 2019 1:41 AM

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Nothing in media is truly necessary. It's a luxury form of entertainment in itself.
Jul 7, 2019 12:55 PM

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Well, not really, but it livens things up a bit. Also, there's fan service in other forms of entertainment, like Soap Operas were some stud character has his shirt off.
Jul 7, 2019 3:24 PM

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I can tolerate it until a certain point (like I did in Konosuba, it surprised me first but I got used to it, it even became pretty funny), but some animes I've watched (Fairy Tail, and obviously Highschool of the dead) have WAY TOO MANY fanservice


But I absolutely wouldn't be bothered if, suddenly, there were no more fanservice in animes. I think it even would made them more enjoyable to me, without feeling "ugh" each time a pair of boobies shows up

Plus, I'm not the kind of person who watches yaoi/yuri/hentai/whatever you want stuff, so I'm also pretty disappointed there's only female fanservice in most of the animes, and no male fanservice
Feb 2, 2020 9:40 AM

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Well.... for anime like Ishuzoku Reviewers that is necessary ofc. What's the point of watching it if there's no fanservice at all????

I think it depends on the genre. If it's something like Shoujo Ai.... then i'd die if there isn't any yuri fanservice in it.

If there is an all girls cast, yuri fanservice is needed as well >:((

And also, in harem anime, fanservice helps the mc to strengthen the bond between himself and the main girl, so yeah i guess it is necessary '-')

Especially when the girl is slow, timid and shy... or even dense and unaware of romantic feelings. Fanservice is an allmighty device to open a new route for potential harem girl. It's like opening a whole new possibility in an unknown deserted land.....

Especially when there are blue ball moments like


But if we're talking about Shounen, Seinen, Horror, Thriller, Action, Mystery, and the likes. Fanservices isn't necessity. It's only there to refresh the mood of the story.

But imagine having fanservices in horror anime like Ousama Game did.... that'd be disastruous. Karma is real....


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Feb 3, 2020 7:17 AM

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Yes, it is.

Fans need the service to be intrigued.

It can come in any form though, even just eargasm OP
Feb 3, 2020 7:20 AM

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Im fine with it as long as it isn't used to conceal a lazily-written plot or used excessively or needlessly even if there is a well-written plot
Feb 3, 2020 7:39 AM

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Well no it's not, but having really smooth and well-choreographed fight scenes isn't necessarily needed either. It's there because the people who made it decided they wanted to appeal to the group that likes those kinds of things. So the only way I see them stopping is if they start trying to appeal to another demographic than their current one. If they were to do that and make anime more "family-friendly", then I think it would on some level stop being the anime we all enjoy.
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Feb 3, 2020 7:56 AM

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Yes, I love fanservice! But awkward forced ones are a big nope like with what Fire force had going.
Gridman and FT tho had nice fanservice. I dare say I only sticked watching Gridman for Rikka fanservice.
Feb 3, 2020 8:45 AM

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It depends on the show. In a harem anime it can make sense to include fan service, but in a rather serious anime I find it most of the time disruptive to see fanservice. To be honest, I can't take an anime with obvious fanservice seriously. So I can tolerate it in a comedy anime but not in a quite serious one. Maybe there are some exceptions. But I could have never watched MONSTER with fanservice.
Feb 3, 2020 9:59 AM

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It's definitely not necessary. If it was necessary then every western cartoon or movie that didn't have it wouldn't be any good, and that's not the case at all.
Feb 6, 2020 4:27 PM

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Not necessary, but eh. Japan is very set in its cultural ways, so it's not gonna change any time soon and I don't see why it should. It's just an artform, if you don't like it, don't watch it.
          
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