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Feb 28, 2015 12:20 AM
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Gholy said:
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They're to be decided by me.

I don't care about your taste. It's shit anyway.

Everyone's taste is shit.


Taste doesn't even exist.
Feb 28, 2015 3:15 AM

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A sum of subjective opinions doesn't mean they somehow magically transform into a snowball of objectivity collectively. Like, are you even serious brah.
Feb 28, 2015 3:25 AM

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Of course not, bcz everything is subjective
Feb 28, 2015 3:26 AM

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AzureDaora said:
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no, i decide which anime are great.


No, Zerg decides which anime are great.


Well, this is very true. Texhnolyze is number 1 after all
Feb 28, 2015 5:14 AM

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fucking nazi sympathizers rate everything way too high

damn commies, go back to africa
Feb 28, 2015 5:16 AM

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cupc said:
AzureDaora said:


No, Zerg decides which anime are great.


Well, this is very true. Texhnolyze is number 1 after all

that is incorrect
Feb 28, 2015 5:17 AM

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silverwalls said:
cupc said:


Well, this is very true. Texhnolyze is number 1 after all

that is incorrect


ur mam's incorect
Feb 28, 2015 5:25 AM

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Red_Keys said:
They're to be decided by me.

I don't care about your taste. It's shit anyway.

Anime is shit to begin with so your opinion doesn't matter.
Feb 28, 2015 5:35 AM

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silverwalls said:
cupc said:


Well, this is very true. Texhnolyze is number 1 after all

that is correct


fixed it for you
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Feb 28, 2015 7:43 AM

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No.
Feb 28, 2015 8:06 AM

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Nope. Each person has his/her own best anime. Don't succumb to peer pressure.
Feb 28, 2015 9:19 AM

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narutobirama said:
On the list of My Anime List there are only 10 Anime with score of 9 or more.

9 is supposed to be great. Does that mean that according to majority there are only 10 great Anime? And none of those come close to 10.

10 is supposed to be a masterpiece. Does that mean that majority cannot agree even about one Anime being a masterpiece?


I think it would be impossible to find any anime ever rated a 10, as there will always be people out there who don't like it and give it "1" scores just to bring down the rating. And those who give it "10" scores because they enjoy it.

Also, I don't think the majority is right on anything. A lot of the time the majority wins elections, and look how those decisions eventually turn out. Opinions can be swayed to extremes based off of the smallest bits and pieces of information. There's a girl/guy you like at school/work, and they like a certain anime? You're more inclined to like that show based off of that simple piece of information in the back of your head. It works the other way to, there's a girl/guy who likes an anime, and you hate that person, you might be inclined to hate that anime as well(and give it a "1" on MAL.)
Feb 28, 2015 10:05 AM

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I know you're suppose to decide for yourself whether a show is good or not, but lucky for me my opinion of a show is usually aligned with the majority, so I can rely on majorities opinion to decide a show to watch.

That being said, if an anime cant appeal to the majority and only attract a very small amount, then it's probably doing something wrong, hence it cant be considered great.
Cant have only a small amount of people saying its a great show and expect it to really be one.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:20 AM

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Blitzkriag said:
That being said, if an anime cant appeal to the majority and only attract a very small amount, then it's probably doing something wrong, hence it cant be considered great.
Cant have only a small amount of people saying its a great show and expect it to really be one.


I vehemently disagree with this notion because there exists great niche works, each with their own group of dedicated fans (and detractors). If a work doesn't have mass appeal, that's not necessarily a sign that it's doing something "wrong"; more often than not it's just because it wasn't for the vast majority. Not everything "great" has to be for everyone and hive minds are terrible for judging the quality of a work. If we use mass appeal as an indication of quality in some alternative universe, SAO would be the greatest achievement of the anime industry there, and we know that ain't true. At least, I hope we know that ain't true.
Feb 28, 2015 11:32 AM

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idk
Feb 28, 2015 11:36 AM

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0% care for other review or score.
Feb 28, 2015 12:09 PM

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Complete misunderstanding of statistics.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:09 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
AzureDaora said:
No, Zerg decides which anime are great.
wtf?


He is right you know.
Feb 28, 2015 12:12 PM

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Great anime are decided by your taste, enjoyment. Those anime you liked the most are the great anime, that's all.
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>Anime
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For me ratings are objective.
kek

there's no such thing as objectivity in entertainment
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Feb 28, 2015 1:13 PM
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Zergneedsfood said:
AzureDaora said:
No, Zerg decides which anime are great.
wtf?

Yay, Tatami Galaxy is great
Feb 28, 2015 1:15 PM

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Well, most subjective things are decided by majorities. I guess anime, work that way too.
Feb 28, 2015 1:23 PM

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imo what makes a great anime for me is totally subjective because what i think is a great anime or even a terrible anime many people may disagree with if there is one thing ive learned on MAL or any suggestion site dont base whether to watch something on the ratings of others, if the synopsis sounds interesting try it and make your own opinion
Feb 28, 2015 1:45 PM
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RayAdha said:
Remember, more popular the anime is, more haters would appear

Some people hates popular anime because they think they are looked cool by having "different taste from those plebs"
Not really. They're many mainstream series such as FMA brotherhood that barely get any hate. A series with a lot of notoriety has a lot more haters than a popular series such as a Hunter X Hunter or FMA Brotherhood.
Feb 28, 2015 1:48 PM

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HxH is not that popular.
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tsudecimo said:
HxH is not that popular.
Relative to most anime series, it is popular. Unless you have a benchmark that determines whether a show is popular or not?
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tsudecimo said:
HxH is not that popular.


Because the level of the average MAL user is that they won't watch something as long as HxH but they will watch multiple anime that add up to the same amount of eps in the same time they could've watched HxH.
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Aeonic said:
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HxH is not that popular.
Relative to most anime series, it is popular. Unless you have a benchmark that determines whether a show is popular or not?

I would qualify 200k members as 'mainstream' in MAL or the internet anime community. And I'm not calling it unpopular, it's popular, just not by much, for your statement to be accurate.

HxH started in 2011, yet it only reached 100k+ in 2014
There are some season shows, that aired in 2014, that have more members, most noteably, Tokyo Ghoul and Akame ga Kill.

It's not in the top 100 most popular anime on this site. #104

It's especially not that popular compared to other long running series (''big 3'', FT, KHR, D.Gray man, Soul Eater, etc) that's probably has a lot to do with it not having a dub.

But yes, your FMA:B example is accurate, I don't think there are many other anime on this site, that increase in member size, but still manage to be this high, because usually a lower member size, means a bigger chance to rank higher.


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tsudecimo said:
HxH is not that popular.


Because the level of the average MAL user is that they won't watch something as long as HxH but they will watch multiple anime that add up to the same amount of eps in the same time they could've watched HxH.

Probably, some people avoid long runners.
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no? if a lot of people have a subjective opinion that doesn't make it any more reliable; it's just an ad-populum fallacy.
Feb 28, 2015 2:35 PM
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tsudecimo said:
HxH is not that popular.


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TheRealNico said:
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HxH is not that popular.


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Because why else would it be #3 on MAL?
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If we always thought that the majority was right then whoever can control the people can become a God.
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Feb 28, 2015 5:38 PM

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for me, I don't rate anime/mangas because I feel that I just don't have enough experiences with them in order for me to rate them. I believe ratings should be objective. If you look at a lot of the reviews in myanimelist, they have catergories like story, character, sound, animation, enjoyment. So I think ratings should be thought thoroughly and should be rated with many different factors and reasons.
I should think that I don't have the experience to be able to reflect the anime carefully(I also don't have time to do that too.).
Feb 28, 2015 5:41 PM

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"Great Anime" is different for every person.
Feb 28, 2015 5:42 PM

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Gholy said:
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Because why else would it be #3 on MAL?
I slightly agree coz in othur sites dey always discussing SAO, Naruto, or AOT
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Gholy said:
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For me ratings are objective.

By that logic, Sword Art Online is better than Battle Angel Alita, and that's a no no. I sure hope that's not what you meant.








OT: Popularity =/= quality.
Feb 28, 2015 6:25 PM

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OT: Popularity =/= quality.


I gotta agree with this. Some anime that I love to death such as Hell Girl, Ichigo Mashimaro, Shikabane Hime, or Dantalian no Shoka I didn't find on a top ten list or something like that when I found them.

After being let down by certain shows because of raging fans, what's great to me is only great to me and vice versa.
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retrogamer32x said:
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I vehemently disagree with this notion because great niche works are a thing that have their own small group of dedicated fans (and detractors). If a work doesn't have mass appeal, that's not a sign that it's doing something "wrong"; more often than not it's just because it wasn't for the vast majority. Not everything "great" has to be for everyone and hive minds are terrible for judging the quality of a work.

I agree with you on that, and I also think you have to factor in historical perspective. An example is The Shawshank Redemption in western movies. It was a flop when it came out and not well reviewed, but then over time people found that movie and now it's considered a classic. Aside from that though, some works of art are just really difficult or focused on a single issue and will never have mass appeal. It reminds me of the quote "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.".


Ah ok I guess i phrased what I wanted to say badly, and I agree with your points too.
But what I was trying to say is when a show is badly done, there will be still a minority who will claim that its a masterpiece, and that would'nt be right either.
I guess a quality of a show is too subjective to be able to be decided that easily...
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