Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers (light novel)
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julyachan said: Man.. The love confession was so forced that made me laugh. Who is the seventh? should be the name of this show. Kinda boring that all the plot is about this question. I had high hopes for this show.. it begun so well. With 2 episodes left I cant give more than a 6/10 score for this. There are plenty of epic fantasy shows with rushed epic plot lines. See the likes of shingeki no bahamut genesis for example. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
ArondightDestiny said: Me too i hope itwon't ba something like Mora and Adlet almost kill themselves and the someone will tell he is the sevent ... Right now in midle of battle Adlet won't make new theory so the ones that can do somethingto discover 7 atm are Chamot and Hans .. Who ever the seventh is, I just hope how they figure it out isn't so obvious. Some hours ago i was looking for image with all braves to edit and i found < Volume 2 cover and i must say that in anime they make that thing covering her left side to big ..... |
ViciLockhartSep 8, 2015 12:56 PM
Tylaen said: Frrrosty said: My God. I feel so bad for the people who find Adlet's confession forced. They must've missed him trying to help her out constantly since episode 2. Not only that. They underestimate the writer so much; Yamagata isn't that stupid. He's actually written 'romance sub-plots' before (Book of Bantorra) and well done ones at that. |
Frrrosty said: After anime and when in finish current LN i will pick up Rokka..it would be hard to read 2 at once ;DMy God. I feel so bad for the people who find Adlet's confession forced. There's a reason for everything. Read the LN if your interested. |
ViciLockhart said: Frrrosty said: After anime and when in finish current LN i will pick up Rokka..it would be hard to read 2 at once ;DMy God. I feel so bad for the people who find Adlet's confession forced. There's a reason for everything. Read the LN if your interested. If I hadn't given into temptation, I would do the same, since you can only really appreciate the 1st volume after you've read the following ones. After all, you can't appreciate the 'setup' until you've known it was the setup for the story in the first place. |
| Great episode and the plot thickens. My points on who's the sweetheart: Probably not Mora. If she were the one, she would know that Adlet isn't the 7th. If so, when they kill him she automatically turns to the main suspect and is therefore eliminated. There is the possibility that Chamot will side with her despite logic (after all Chamot hasn't shown a big tendency towards logic), but as we saw just Adlet and Hans were enough to stop Chamot, so it probably wouldn't work out in her favor either way. Fremy obviously isn't the one. I wouldn't rule Hans out. If he was the one, when Adlet told him his theory of how the barrier was activated, he would know that it wasn't correct and that the chase for Adlet would not be stopped. Therefore if he sides with him, he is pretty much off the hook when they kill Adlet, as he defended him. If, however, he is the 7th and he had killed Adlet when he got the chance, he would fall under suspicion for the same reason as Mora would if they kill Adlet - they advocated that he is the 7th most strongly. So Hans is still not out for me. I really don't think it's Chamo. She seems waay too simpleminded to be the one and while this could easily be a ploy I don't think the show has made a set up for it being Chamo. If it turns out to be her I'd be disappointed. Goldof. I'd say it probably isn't him. Only case I can make for it being him is if he wants to protect Nashetania from something, which I think would be kind of sloppy. Nashetania seems like a long shot. She and Goldof were fighting when Adlet opened the temple door and that goes a long way toward establishing an alibi for her. Her freaking out seemed incredibly in-character as she has so far shown herself to be rash - going after Fremy immediately upon learning that she was the Brave Killer among other things - so I wouldn't suspect her too much. And while she's definitely a character who has a big motivation to fake being chosen - to get away from her sort-of custody - I really don't think it's her. Adlet. Just a few things. First, that red, demonic-like light, that shone when he got the flower. We didn't see what anyone else saw when he got it, therefore we don't know whether that was the real thing. The fact stands that he did open the temple and it did activate. Therefore he could be an unwitting pawn in the demon's plot. HOWEVER this would suppose that the demon somehow knew that Adlet would be the first to enter the temple, which is definitely not certain. Still, I've seen plots tied together with much looser strings so I wouldn't rule it out. On a psychological basis it's plausible as well - Adlet desperately wanted to be chosen, so the demon could've easily taken advantage of that and Adlet has shown himself to be a bit naive. So a definite could be. And one final possibility - The one who activated it is not the 7th. As an example, Nashetania could have faked having the sign for the sake of escaping, while someone else is in cahoots with the devil. This would be plausible, at least to me. Final thoughts: I wouldn't put my money on anyone, but if I had to say, gun-to-head I'd call Hans or Adlet. |
alobonjourSep 8, 2015 1:25 PM
| Good-bye and hello, as always. Wishes, wishes. Wish in one hand and do something else in the other, and squeeze them both and see which comes true.  |
| Many things happened here, Adlet's confession was kinda stupid, I mean, really? U are fighting, u barely know the person, u just love her coz she had a hard time in life too.. We were finally able to see a bit of Mora's power! and it was so cool! Nashetania went nuts! |
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Dariamus said: I really like Adlet and Flamie after episode 10. And Hans, don't forget Hans. |
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DmonHiro said: Dariamus said: I really like Adlet and Flamie after episode 10. And Hans, don't forget Hans. At first I thought Hans was a fucking creep, but now he's probably my favorite next to Adlet. |
Frrrosty said: My God. I feel so bad for the people who find Adlet's confession forced. There's a reason for everything. Read the LN if your interested. Lol. I think thats the problem with LN adaptations. In the LN, maybe the love confession part is believable and makes sense. But in the anime, sorry no. All we have is both Adlet and Flamie passing hard things in life and Adlet helping her a lot of times. Just it. At least in the anime, it was forced and out of place. I never read the LN though. I can give a try later, but as a viewer, sorry, I felt like: Adlet - “I love you”. Me - WUUUUUUUUUUT? haha |
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g0tadman said: Suddenly Maura tells a very feign lie in attempt to make everyone turn on Adlet and suddenly her "unwavering convictions" are shattered like they were nothing. Oh and crazy psycho mode engage. it was mentioned in the LN that mora had trained nashetania to become the saint of blades before. so she had spent more time with mora than with Adler. of course she would trust mora more |
apokaliz500 said: Theory time again. My current one is very similar to Adlet's theory from episode 9, but with two important differences: -what appeared was only a fog, but not really created magically, at least not directly -there's only two people (and not 6) who could activate barrier after Adlet blew up the door. Details: So, here I assume Lauren really is working with fiends so he lied about the activation method. I also assume that there really is 8th and that person isn't Lauren. In the show, when Adlet and Fremy go into Gwenbyer, Adlet mentions that it's suddenly gotten hot and wonders if it's normal in this area. Also when near the temple, but still in a bit of distance, he shows that he's feeling like it's hot in here. In episode 6, it is mentioned that it's cold around the temple and Fremy explains it's because of the salt barrier (the one that is active all the time so fiends don't go in). So there are two weird weather phenomena mentioned in the show. Also we know that there is a person missing for a month already, Sun Saint Riura, and she is exceptionally strong as Adlet mentions she was able to destroy a palace with the sun's rays. Sure, he also mentions she's old now so she wouldn't be a Brave candidate, but Fremy doesn't seem to think that as she said Riura was on her "to kill" list. It still isn't explained what happened with her. Why do I bring this up? Because in my theory, Riura is the 8th and she was manipulating the sun to produce more heat, that's why it was so hot in the area. Why would she do that? So the coldness created by salt barrier clashes with heat produced by her. I did some quick research on fogs, and that's pretty much how fog is created in our world. So while Riura was using magic to manipulate the weather, the fog itself was 100% physical phenomena and it could happen without clashing with the magical fog barrier, as the normal fog isn't magical. Notice that, in episode 4, on the beginning of the scene when Adlet finds wounded woman (monkey demon), we have a short scene when the sky, with sun in the centre, is shown. Coincidence? (this scene can also explain why fog appeared exactly in this moment and not earlier or something, Riura is probably a pro at controlling sun now so she was able to keep the heat not be enough to create a fog and she turned it on more after Adlet blew up the door) So, after that absolutely non-magical fog was created and our (4 at the time) heroes lost their shit that barrier is activated, they went into the temple and the seventh activated the barrier. So the first difference from Adlet's theory is that the fog created at that moment wasn't magical. The second difference between Adlet's theory and mine is that Adlet assumed any of the 6 could have activated the barrier, because everyone was "messing with it". That's not quite right, because at the beginning of the episode 5 we see that Adlet and Hans check the fog and they can't come out, which means at that moment the TRUE barrier was already active. So only Nashetania or Goldof could activate it, as only they (aside from Adlet) were messing with the temple before episode 5 started. Now, which of the two? It depends on what really is the way to activate the barrier. The only thing Goldof did was removing the sword from the dais. Nashetania did all kinds of crazy shit like saying "I'll be the master of the temple" and swinging the sword, breaking stuff in the process. I see no reason the activation process would be as complicated as the weird stuff Nashetania was doing. Just pulling out the sword is simple and easy to remember. That said, my suspect is Goldof now. There's a slight chance it's Nashetania, but my bet is on Goldof. Excellent theory I never thought of that. I had always assumed someone else was responsible for the fog but never thought of Riura was in the mix. |
apokaliz500 said: Thanks. I mean, they go out of their way to talk about her three times and she didn't even appear once, so that already says something. The only question is why Riura who isn't a brave anymore suddenly wanted to create fog and cause this disarray. |
apokaliz500 said: She wasn't a Brave. She was Saint, and show kinda implies she still is. Because otherwise, why would Fremy plan to kill her? So Riura activated her powers and then disappeared? Where is she? |
apokaliz500 said: Notice that, in episode 4, on the beginning of the scene when Adlet finds wounded woman (monkey demon), we have a short scene when the sky, with sun in the centre, is shown. Coincidence? A minor addition here: When Adlet found the woman, we see the sun being obscured by the cloud (http://i.imgur.com/dbjy2a6.jpg). It blends reasonably well with the ominous scene, but it contrasts with the blazing sun earlier in the episode (http://i.imgur.com/5Y691JT.jpg). Now, which of the two? It depends on what really is the way to activate the barrier. The only thing Goldof did was removing the sword from the dais. Nashetania did all kinds of crazy shit like saying "I'll be the master of the temple" and swinging the sword, breaking stuff in the process. I see no reason the activation process would be as complicated as the weird stuff Nashetania was doing. Just pulling out the sword is simple and easy to remember. That said, my suspect is Goldof now. There's a slight chance it's Nashetania, but my bet is on Goldof. It should be noted that pulling out the sword to try to deactivate the barrier is a perfectly reasonable thing to try once the braves think they are trapped. Adlet would have done it had Goldof not. This would permit us to narrow down the person who activated the barrier, but it leaves the 7th wide open. |
I regretted ever boarding the AdletxFremy ship... julyachan said: Frrrosty said: My God. I feel so bad for the people who find Adlet's confession forced. There's a reason for everything. Read the LN if your interested. Lol. I think thats the problem with LN adaptations. In the LN, maybe the love confession part is believable and makes sense. But in the anime, sorry no. All we have is both Adlet and Flamie passing hard things in life and Adlet helping her a lot of times. Just it. it's the same in the LN. the confession was also sudden and unexpected. But if you continue reading the LN, you'll understand why Adlet had suddenly fallen for Fremy. Everything that happened in this story has a reason. Lastly, some people really need to stop writing spoilers in the forms of 'theories', especially without using the spoiler tag. It's ruining the fun for anime-watchers. |
ramenystSep 8, 2015 8:04 PM
| The confession was unexpected, but I loved it. Best girl x Strongest man OTP~ So Maura should be the 7th, but I still think something's off. Perhaps it's Nashetania, but she's gone crazy so I doubt she's plotting anything. Could it be that Adlet really is the 7th? He is, after all, weaker than all the others in terms of raw fighting potential... I suppose I can wait one more week for the inevitable cliffhanger answer we'll get :V |
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ttcchen said: Lastly, some people really need to stop writing spoilers in the forms of 'theories', especially without using the spoiler tag. It's ruining the fun for anime-watchers. If you start saying things like these, we'll end up thinking the theories are spoilers. :/ It would be best just to report them, lol. |
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julyachan said: Lol. I think thats the problem with LN adaptations. In the LN, maybe the love confession part is believable and makes sense. But in the anime, sorry no. All we have is both Adlet and Flamie passing hard things in life and Adlet helping her a lot of times. Just it. At least in the anime, it was forced and out of place. I never read the LN though. I can give a try later, but as a viewer, sorry, I felt like: Adlet - “I love you”. Me - WUUUUUUUUUUT? haha As ttchen said, you misunderstand. This adaptation is nearly perfect, only the animation has problems. Just remember this is a mystery show and everything you don't take seriously will come back at you twice as hard. |
julyachan said: Frrrosty said: My God. I feel so bad for the people who find Adlet's confession forced. There's a reason for everything. Read the LN if your interested. Lol. I think thats the problem with LN adaptations. In the LN, maybe the love confession part is believable and makes sense. But in the anime, sorry no. All we have is both Adlet and Flamie passing hard things in life and Adlet helping her a lot of times. Just it. At least in the anime, it was forced and out of place. I never read the LN though. I can give a try later, but as a viewer, sorry, I felt like: Adlet - “I love you”. Me - WUUUUUUUUUUT? haha It's called infatuation. It may seem strange since it's not the slowly-developed, mature love we're all used to understanding, but it's been known to happen. Love at first sight. Is it cliche? Sure, but it shouldn't be strange, especially in anime of all things. So forced wouldn't be the word I would use. |
| "whats so special about bonzai trees?" "They are the loli of the tree world."  Inganock of the Brightest Flame |
| Okay so I'm reading thru the LN and how the fuck did nassy ask about the barrier when she never went to the temple.... |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
apokaliz500 said: Theory time again. My current one is very similar to Adlet's theory from episode 9, but with two important differences: -what appeared was only a fog, but not really created magically, at least not directly -there's only two people (and not 6) who could activate barrier after Adlet blew up the door. Details: Good one. It's refreshing to see someone think about how it was done, not just try to guess who did it based on behavior. But if the way to activate the barrier is simply "pull out the sword", the 7th isn't really necessary. They will try it on their own. Well, you could add a 7th to sow suspicion, but in this case any random strong person would do, he/she doesn't have to be aware he/she is the fake. |
Xynic said: Is there any likeable character in this anime? Disclaimer: I've read the novels up to vol. 3, so my perspective is different. Pretty much everybody. From the protagonist, to the 7th, to lowly demons willing to die for their cause. The Braves (including the fake(s)) are a colorful cast of characters, with enough variety between them so that anybody might find one they like. Friendly neighborhood assassin Hans? the loyal knight Goldof? Cute and playful engines of destruction Nashetania and Chamo? (do you like lolis or bikini-armored bunny girls?) Tough leader Mora forced to make hard choices? Adlet's fake smile and confidence, or Fremy's profound sadness and determination? You'll know the 7th motivation soon enough, and I find it likeable. Demon generals aren't people you would want to be friends with, but they are the kind of villains you love to hate. Who else can make a whole village become slaves to the demons just by talking to them? Kyouma ("demons" or "fiends" in the translation) are living things. They don't get to respawn when they die, and I doubt they get to any good place in the afterlife. And some of them are intelligent. Yet all of them, except, possibly, demon generals, are willing to throw their lives away for a small chance of stopping the heroes. Have you ever wanted to kill all humans? Cheer for the Majin (demon god), for he/she wants it too! I guess humans were total bastards to him/her till he/she snapped. |
| apokaliz500 great theory i never thought of Riura to create fog i was stick with alchemy ...As for activation i will go with Nashetania "I will be a mistress of barrier "or or droping blood on altar..as i recall it was Fremy in episode 6 saying that it's coolder near salt pillars but only because she's half-fiend she fells cold and pain so the temperature overall there is the same as in all area. |
ViciLockhartSep 9, 2015 4:59 AM
| Well blood maybe was needed for activation ( anyone). 7 knew that but just like with doors to temple that once opened cannot be closed 7 was about to point that out but Hans did the job .As for the blood the person who could do that are Adlet , Mora and 7 . So it's even possible that Adlet help to create barrier or create it himself ... activation (real one ;p) in my opinion drop blood on Altar and speak the words "i will be mistress/master of barrier " |
| The person who raise the barrier (speak final words) not help with ritual will be barrier master .. i don't say that pull out a sword isn't possible to be part or all of the ritual it's very possible( more than ppl saying that Mora did it because she had a key). Still 2 episodes and we will know xD Also for Riura maybe she was using her powers on this region for quite some time and then when braves start to gather at fort she just stop that would create fog as well . |
Xynic said: Is there any likeable character in this anime? Hans and Fremy |
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apokaliz500 said: ViciLockhart said: Also for Riura maybe she was using her powers on this region for quite some time and then when braves start to gather at fort she just stop that would create fog as well . Yeah, that's what I think, too. Back when I first wrote this, I think I messed up physics a bit. I was sure that Riura was controlling the weather all this time, making the area hotter, but I guess telling the sun to stop when Adlet blows the door, which would result in area cooling down, is what created a fog. And yeah, like I said, if author wanted to very much, he could make this be Nashetania's fault, because it isn't impossible. That's why I said there's a slight chance it's Nashetania instead. Goldov and Nash are the most suspect for me since the barrier went up ... Adlet- we saw weverything from Adlet perspective soo we know it wasn't him Fremy , Hans, Chamot and Mora according to my and your theory wasn't near the altar when barrier was up . in episode 5 Hans and Adlet checking the barrier and Mora was investigating shrine but barrier was up at that time .. also Mora receive key from Lauren(traitor) to make her a suspect but she didn't have intention to enter the temple so 7 and fiends must act (episode 4 forest ).. That leave two Goldov and Nash :Goldov done one thing that can point him as 7 he attacked Adlet first while Nash try to make Goldov and Fremy stand for Adlet 3 vs 3 battle on braves camp it would be great for seven . My main suspect is Hime ( i can write all reasons since ep. 2 ) and second Goldov rest are clear and Mora is the best milf. |
| I just caught up from fourth episode after leaving this anime for a while, and I must say I am quite disappointed. Sure the story isn't boring, the quality of the anime didn't drop either and some of new characters are interesting as well. (I like Hans a lot, WHO SAID THAT MALE NYAN NYAN WON'T WORK?) But my problem with this anime is slightly different. In first four episodes we had the good intro. The story, the main characters, ETC. But most importantly we moved from being "captured in the prison in some kingdom" to hey we meet other guys and we are already at the gateway to "demon lands". It was incredible progress I must say, not only that, there was also the introduction of other two braves in the meantime. Then at the very end of forth episode there was meeting up of all seven characters. But where did the show go from there. There are only two episodes left and the braves forgotten about demon lord that they have to beat and are playing hide and sneak inside the fog, and while the plot and the mystery of seventh brave is all right, this wasn't supposed to be detective story and this mystery shouldn't take all remaining episodes after the forth one. Or will they tell me that the seventh brave is actually the demon lord and hip hip hurray the world will be saved once the misery is resolved. But what about that crow guy, what about demon lands? EH... so disappointing, yet another show will end without any ending and will never come back because I saw better animes never getting the second season. This is something I should have been used to, something that I should expect as it happens all the time, but the pacing of first four episodes gave me the false hope. So SAD. |
eso18 said: So SAD. Go watch Shingeki No Bahamut. |
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eso18 said: But where did the show go from there. There are only two episodes left and the braves forgotten about demon lord that they have to beat and are playing hide and sneak inside the fog, and while the plot and the mystery of seventh brave is all right, this wasn't supposed to be detective story and this mystery shouldn't take all remaining episodes after the forth one. Or will they tell me that the seventh brave is actually the demon lord and hip hip hurray the world will be saved once the misery is resolved. This was a detective story from start to finish. And no, the demon god won't be defeated in the anime. He is mostly a plot device to put the story into action. He doesn't even have a name! |
| hmmm Was Mora trained by Atro or just knew this guy somehow?? when Adlet pull out that drug she was suprised and like "Your master... Could it be ? " |
ViciLockhart said: hmmm Was Mora trained by Atro or just knew this guy somehow?? when Adlet pull out that drug she was suprised and like "Your master... Could it be ? " Atro is pretty (in)famous. |
| From the way Flamie described Atro, and from how Adlet deliberately sought him, it wouldn't be surprising if he was rather infamous as the weird hermit who was attempting to perfect an odd assortment of tools to fight the fiends. Much like Adlet knew of Maura by reputation, she may very well know of Atro by reputation without ever having met him. |
Ugoki said: His sure is she just look at that and know who made it .. Old grandpa on mountains who no one knows but everyone is aware of his work.. Well he making a tools to fight fiends so it will not be suprising if he share his work with templeViciLockhart said: hmmm Was Mora trained by Atro or just knew this guy somehow?? when Adlet pull out that drug she was suprised and like "Your master... Could it be ? " Atro is pretty (in)famous. @up yeah she would only know him by rumors but she recognize that tools at once so she saw it earlier . |
ViciLockhart said: hmmm Was Mora trained by Atro or just knew this guy somehow?? when Adlet pull out that drug she was suprised and like "Your master... Could it be ? " Yeah, she knew Atro. She took some Saints to him to train. |
| I looked at the "Anime trending" thing today and noticed Rokka No Yuusha had jumped to number 2. Can't help but think that's due to the sudden romance introduced. Or maybe I just have little understanding of mainstream popularity. |
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pikeman1 said: Well let just hope we won't meet group of saints that will speak "We are the strongest womans in the world";DViciLockhart said: hmmm Was Mora trained by Atro or just knew this guy somehow?? when Adlet pull out that drug she was suprised and like "Your master... Could it be ? " Yeah, she knew Atro. She took some Saints to him to train. |
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