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| Well at least Kaname didn't immediately accept Sayu, that'd been so weird since he's been in love with Chisaki all this time. Also Chisaki really never changed as Kaname said. Whenever she's in love, she'd let it go for Manaka. The same way like Miuna.... I hope Miuna ends well. |
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| Oh poor Akira got rejected :/ xD The confession scene between Sayu and Kaname was executed so well and his reply couldn't have been better in this case,got even a bit wet eyes. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| I really feel bad for thinking that Kaname was a bit "bruh, why are you saying that?" At times during this second cour without even considering his own feelings, his family is sleeping, Hikari has Akira, Manaka has Hikari, and Chisaki has Tsumugu, but him? I can't stop thinking how lonely he felt during this time, all while seeing that Chisaki not loving Hikari anymore didn't lead to him now being the one, but Tsumugu instead, and Kaname totally saw that it would end up happening even if he didn't hibernate, it's such a sad situation, but now that he knows that Sayu is there for him he will see the world in a whole different light, and I'm so happy to see these two like this, that scene was amazing and I can't deny I teared up. This anime just keep showing me sides of the characters that makes me like them more and more, why are they so good? And now, five years later, it's time to see if another Ofunehiki can bring the miracle and bring back Manaka's emotions, who is suffering so much right now because she can't understand the hole she has in her heart, completely unable to understand what love is, Tsumugu is the one taking action this time as Hikari did back then, as Uroko mentioned. The end of the story is close, stay strong! |
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| Oh boi, feels good when your ship finally sailed. But.. HikarixChisaki is almost impossible |
| Sayu confession was so beautiful. T-T |
| I think we got closure for Kaname and Sayu. Some more moments between them in the earlier episodes before the sending would have been nice but you can't expect to have drama for all characters. Chisaki admitted to like Tsumugu. It is expected. There isn't really any other match for her. I like that couple the most because it looks most natural. Everyone else's love is basically crushes but Chisaki and Tsumugu have an unspoken understanding of each other. They are grown-ups and their love actually feels mature. All that is left is trying to do the sending again. |
| Way to go, Sayu! That scene was well done. Finally, Kaname realises that there's someone that's been waiting for him all this time. Him especially. And glad that he's going to see Sayu as a proper girl his age now, somebody he might fall in love with. Shipping Sayu and Kaname! |
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| Lmao the scene where they are hiding behing corners stalking each other is just like a literal meme |
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| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Not really a fan of Chisaki x Tsugumu, but at least Kaname seems ready to start moving on (even if he can't completely do it yet). Kaname was a dick at points, but I really feel for him now. I feel bad for Miuna since she'll only get a chance with Hikari when Hell freezes over. Maybe she will develop feelings for her classmate. I hope Manaka gets her ability to love back. |
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| It seems like Kaname is the first one ready to move on. Good for Sayu, she actually got a chance. |
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Reply to saoasuna
CrimsonMidnight said:
I'm sure Chisaki actually realize her growing feelings for Tsumugu. And she can't accept it. Not because she comfortable with the status quo nor didn't see a need to change, but because she was afraid to change. She realize she is changing, that's why she was so afraid at meeting with Hikari.
Chisaki and Kaname conversation in this episode:
Kaname: Even if things didn't work out with you and Hikari, I knew it'd be Tsumugu next and not me.
Chisaki: No! I don't love him!I'm not allowed to love Tsumugu!
If I fell in love with anyone other than Hikari, I thought I'd be betraying everyone still sleeping. Everyone whose time stopped!.
(I thought)I love Hikari. I made sure I wouldn't forget that. I always made sure I didn't forget..
When Hikari came back, I was scared.
The fact that I was the only one who became an adult...not only that...
I thought he'd see through me about various things.
But Hikari told me I hadn't change. I was so happy. (that I thought)I still loved Hikari. even now..but!
Kaname:That doesn't matter anymore.. we're all here now. We came back. There's no reason to fool your own feelings.
Chisaki:Manaka loves Tsumugu. In order to reawaken Manaka's feeling of love, I can't accept Tsumugu's feelings
So, I think Chisaki do notice her feelings but refuse to accept it because said reason above, she said it herself.
The word "I love Hikari", "I still love Hikari, even now", I wonder what others understand about those? Because, I do understand the Japanese (because I study Japanese in college) and I'm afraid others got the wrong idea. So I added (I thought) above.
In that word, it's not Chisaki declare herself she loves Hikari. But more "she thought" she love Hikari or "she made sure". Talk to herself, convincing herself. The pattern is the same with "I made sure I wouldn't forget that. [/b]I[/b] always made sure I didn't forget", they include the "I made sure" in those sentence, but not in the other which have same pattern. So, I think the sub is somewhat fail to deliver the real meaning....but then again, maybe I don't understand the english one, maybe it's already implied like that. ^^;
I realize that I'm replying to a 10 year old comment, but just want to quote this so that future readers don't misunderstand. This interpretation of what Chisaki said is really incorrect. Chisaki is NOT convincing herself she likes Hikari - she genuinely DOES like him.L-Ryoshi said:
Thus, based on my own opinion, I would think that whilst Tsumugu had probably developed feelings for Chisaki sometime during or after the first Ofunehiki event. Chisaki probably didn't notice her own feelings or even think to reciprocate them, even up to this latest episode, because she was so comfortable with the status quo. She didn't see a need to change anything, which is why when the cat was out of the bag, she needed a push from others like the poor Kaname to even consider/realize her own feelings, much less act on them (which she hasn't done thus far).
At least... that's the vibe that I've received after watching 24 episodes of this.
Thus, based on my own opinion, I would think that whilst Tsumugu had probably developed feelings for Chisaki sometime during or after the first Ofunehiki event. Chisaki probably didn't notice her own feelings or even think to reciprocate them, even up to this latest episode, because she was so comfortable with the status quo. She didn't see a need to change anything, which is why when the cat was out of the bag, she needed a push from others like the poor Kaname to even consider/realize her own feelings, much less act on them (which she hasn't done thus far).
At least... that's the vibe that I've received after watching 24 episodes of this.
I'm sure Chisaki actually realize her growing feelings for Tsumugu. And she can't accept it. Not because she comfortable with the status quo nor didn't see a need to change, but because she was afraid to change. She realize she is changing, that's why she was so afraid at meeting with Hikari.
Chisaki and Kaname conversation in this episode:
Kaname: Even if things didn't work out with you and Hikari, I knew it'd be Tsumugu next and not me.
Chisaki: No! I don't love him!I'm not allowed to love Tsumugu!
If I fell in love with anyone other than Hikari, I thought I'd be betraying everyone still sleeping. Everyone whose time stopped!.
(I thought)I love Hikari. I made sure I wouldn't forget that. I always made sure I didn't forget..
When Hikari came back, I was scared.
The fact that I was the only one who became an adult...not only that...
I thought he'd see through me about various things.
But Hikari told me I hadn't change. I was so happy. (that I thought)I still loved Hikari. even now..but!
Kaname:That doesn't matter anymore.. we're all here now. We came back. There's no reason to fool your own feelings.
Chisaki:Manaka loves Tsumugu. In order to reawaken Manaka's feeling of love, I can't accept Tsumugu's feelings
So, I think Chisaki do notice her feelings but refuse to accept it because said reason above, she said it herself.
The word "I love Hikari", "I still love Hikari, even now", I wonder what others understand about those? Because, I do understand the Japanese (because I study Japanese in college) and I'm afraid others got the wrong idea. So I added (I thought) above.
In that word, it's not Chisaki declare herself she loves Hikari. But more "she thought" she love Hikari or "she made sure". Talk to herself, convincing herself. The pattern is the same with "I made sure I wouldn't forget that. [/b]I[/b] always made sure I didn't forget", they include the "I made sure" in those sentence, but not in the other which have same pattern. So, I think the sub is somewhat fail to deliver the real meaning....but then again, maybe I don't understand the english one, maybe it's already implied like that. ^^;
If we take a look at what Chisaki says it was something like:
η§γ―ε γγ‘γγγ¨ε₯½γγͺγγ γ£γ¦γγγδ»γ§γγ‘γγγ¨γ£γ¦
Judging by what you wrote, you're interpreting the tte directly as 'i thought' (γ£γ¦ζγ£γ¦γ), but in this case (combined with the γͺγγ right before it, which is often used for moments of self-realization) I'm almost certain it's more like 'i understood / realized' (γ£γ¦γγγ£γ¦γ). This coincides exactly with her realization in episode 19 where she realized she was still in love with Hikari even after those 5 years.
My translation would have been more like:
But Hikari told me things won't change. I was so happy. I realized I still loved Hikari. even now..but! (something to do with her wanting to return Tsumugu's feelings given that her love with Hikari is unrequited)
At this point of the series, Chisaki truly loves Hikari. Whether she was convincing herself of those feelings during the timeskip is another matter, but we saw clear as day in episode 19 that, after Hikari came back from hibernation, her feelings for Hikari are very real. Her feelings are not at all 'fake' nor is she just trying to convince herself - I'm not sure where everyone is getting this idea. She loves Hikari, but now there is another person she has also grown fond of, who actually is interested in her unlike Hikari (i.e. not going to be unrequited love).
I hate this idea that people think Chisaki was just convincing herself she likes Hikari. How can anyone think that after seeing what was probably the most emotion we'll ever see out of Chisaki at the end of episode 19, where she re-realizes her love for him.
| @saoasuna totally forgot the context but never expected someone to necro this lmfao. It certainly can be interpreted that way. Since chanto basically means, seriously/really. Though rather than realization, I still think she's just trying to recount. So both interpretaion is correct if based on the japanese sentence. Though again this is based on 0 context here, totally forgot what's the scene all about lol. |
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