White Album Episode 11 Discussion

DeathfireD said:
I don't understand what was so funny about Touya breaking down and crying. Imagen if you where in his shoes for a second. Everyone is playing games with him and he's obviously not as strong as his image makes it out to look, his brake down and crying shows that. He seriously loves Yuki but has no idea what she's feeling for him right now and no one's attempting to help. Rina had a number of times to tell him about the note but she didn't. Yayoi back stabbed Yuki about giving the note to Touya and now it's going to make it look like Touya purposely ignored the note to come see her concert.

9th-eden said:
[...]seriously if he actually loves Yuki you would think he could pull himself away from Yayoi... although I can see the tempation for sure.

DeathfireD said:
I don't understand what was so funny about Touya braking down and crying. Imagen if you where in his shoes for a second. Everyone is playing games with him and he's obviously not as strong as his image makes it out to look, his brake down and crying shows that. He seriously loves Yuki but has no idea what she's feeling for him right now and no one's attempting to help. Rina had a number of times to tell him about the note but she didn't. Yayoi back stabbed Yuki about giving the note to Touya and now it's going to make it look like Touya purposely ignored the note to come see her concert.

Siva said:
LOL Why did you even care about those "fans"? I am sure not everyone is here talking shit about this show, there are people that still like this show just like you did. Not all of my fav shows are in top 100 MAL, and I don't even care how bad they talk about it. As for me I wouldn't call White Album is a shitty series and I still enjoy watching this show.

Forever said:
Actually I really can't see any of these school day vibes everyone is talking about. I don't think some murder-drama will occur, because that doesn't really go along well with the style of the show.

nyamo said:
wtf was that? touya crying in the car. i'll cry in a car too if it gets me raped by yayoi

Kvakond said:
What was funny is the terrible execution. One moment you chit-chat, then someone asks you a question about something that's troubling you, and boom, next second you cry a river. Come on now! Nobody acts like that. If he'd slowly started crying by the end of his sentence about how he doesn't understands Yuki (why would you dumbass, you haven't talked.. in a month? 2?), I'd say ok. But all you who says omg this show is so realistic. Come on now.. Last time I checked RL it wasn't even close.

Kvakond said:
The other thing that made the crying scene funny was his hypocrisy. He cries about Yuki in front of the woman he cheats on Yuki with (i'm not sure this sentence is correct). Then he cheats on Yuki, or let himself get seduced, or get's raped. Whatever version you prefer. I mean get a f*kin' backbone already.

Kvakond said:
Second, I am a big fan of crappy shows. But this is just terrible. The characters..oh the characters.. each and every one of them is the most annoying walking-talking piece of 2D animation I have ever seen.

Forever said:
Well, I rewatched the scene again and it might be a bit too sudden but on the other hand it's a sudden breakout that can happen in RL too. Is it really that unrealistic? I'm not really sure.

Forever said:
For me it's somewhere around 7.5 right now.

Forever said:
I don't really see how it is THAT bad? Have you watched Akane-iro ni Somaru Saka? Compared to it this is a perfect masterpiece.

Rwave said:
At this rate I see a School Days ending for Touya on the way XD

what a dunce.

Kvakond said:
Well first of all he never had an image that he's strong. Maybe in the eyes of some pitiful characters, but not towards the viewers. Everyone is playing games with him, because he can be manipulated. He wants to be manipulated. He makes stupid things and stupid decisions that he himself knows he shouldn't do just to "make everyone happy".

Plus, I have to agree with noteDhero. He didn't put any effort in his relationship with Yuki. Not as near as with Misaki, Rina or even Haruta.
Their "serious love" is nothing but those teenage romances. They sometimes talk on the phone about the weather, and met Once last year. You have a similar kind of relationship with Santa Claus. And you can go and tell me that he didn't do anything on purpose to help Yuki's career but the results are the same.

Back to the crying thing. The fact that he cried wasn't funny and ridiculous because "a man crying is a sign of weakness" or it is shameful and embarrassing. I wouldn't expect more from a wuss like him. What was funny is the terrible execution. One moment you chit-chat, then someone asks you a question about something that's troubling you, and boom, next second you cry a river. Come on now! Nobody acts like that. If he'd slowly started crying by the end of his sentence about how he doesn't understands Yuki (why would you dumbass, you haven't talked.. in a month? 2?), I'd say ok. But all you who says omg this show is so realistic. Come on now.. Last time I checked RL it wasn't even close.
The other thing that made the crying scene funny was his hypocrisy. He cries about Yuki in front of the woman he cheats on Yuki with (i'm not sure this sentence is correct). Then he cheats on Yuki, or let himself get seduced, or get's raped. Whatever version you prefer. I mean get a f*kin' backbone already.

For starters, there is a small but important difference between bitch and flame. Second, I am a big fan of crappy shows. But this is just terrible. The characters..oh the characters.. each and every one of them is the most annoying walking-talking piece of 2D animation I have ever seen.
Why I didn't drop this? Because I have a genetic disorder that prevents me from dropping shows. Plus I long to see a massacre.

Yes, I actually fear the same.

DeathfireD said:
Except his character is portrayed as a strong individual from the start of the series up until now. Everyone in the show sees him as such because each has their own personal issues and the shows been pushing on these issues throughout the whole series (ie. Rina's past, Haruka's brother dieing, Misaki's drama, mana's antisocial behavior), but in actuality he's no different from anyone else. His issues are starting to show up one after another (family problems, failure to just say no to anyone, taking on to much at one time).

DeathfireD said:
As for him loving her, I think that when he broke down crying in the car asking what Yuki's true feelings where it showed how much he cares about her. Any man that cries over a girl undoubtedly has some form of love for her especially since he's crying for her and not anyone else. As for making him look weak....well it only shows that he cares for her that much more don't you think?

DeathfireD said:
In the end both Yuki and Touya are the problem. It only takes one of them to confront the other and explain what their feeling. If neither does that then it's going to result in a huge cluster fuck. It's already starting to show now that Rina knows somethings up and Yuki think's Touya got the note.

the_seventh_l said:
Dear Touya:

Fucking break up with Yuki already. It's not going to work. Argh.

Stick with Rina or Haruka, plz.

DeathfireD said:


Except his character is portrayed as a strong individual from the start of the series up until now. Everyone in the show sees him as such because each has their own personal issues and the shows been pushing on these issues throughout the whole series (ie. Rina's past, Haruka's brother dieing, Misaki's drama, mana's antisocial behavior), but in actuality he's no different from anyone else. His issues are starting to show up one after another (family problems, failure to just say no to anyone, taking on to much at one time).

@noteDhero - but the problem is he's not roactive at all nor is Yuki. He's passive, take a look at what he's done so far. Anytime anyone needs help with something or shows interest in him he just accepts it and goes with the flow. If Yuki doesn't confront him then nothing will happen. On the flip side if he doesn't pick up the phone she wont talk to him in person lol. She's had countless time's where she saw him in person but did absolutely nothing to confirm his feelings for her or find out why he's been avoiding her. It's not all the guys fault! She's clearly made from the same mold and it's no wonder that they hooked up in the first place. Now the problem is she finally did something proactive and wrote him a note conveying some for of affection and expected him to get it. If he doesn't show up to her show this is when things are gonna go downhill.

As for him loving her, I think that when he broke down crying in the car asking what Yuki's true feelings where it showed how much he cares about her. Any man that cries over a girl undoubtedly has some form of love for her especially since he's crying for her and not anyone else. As for making him look weak....well it only shows that he cares for her that much more don't you think?

In the end both Yuki and Touya are the problem. It only takes one of them to confront the other and explain what their feeling. If neither does that then it's going to result in a huge cluster fuck. It's already starting to show now that Rina knows somethings up and Yuki think's Touya got the note.

thewandere said:
I'm just putting this out there....is it that bad to get r*ped by Yayoi?

noteDhero said:

since his view of himself seems to be so low (most likely becasue of the way his father treats him) he give in to the first person who pays attention to at least his sexual desire.

DeathfireD said:
I don't understand what was so funny about Touya braking down and crying.

Shin-kun said:
this show is just getting better and better , i love the ways its just twisting and bending so realistically =Ds

DeathfireD said:
I like the show but I hate the "fans" for it lol. So far the series has been decent but all I hear is bitch bitch bitch on the forums about how bad it's been :P. Suck it up guys and stop complaining. If it's so bad then drop it and move on with your lives.

Forever said:
Moreover we live in a society where a man crying is a sign of weakness and young male teens think that it is a very shameful & embarrassing thing.

Forever said:
I also think the term "raped by yayoi" is not really appropriate. Of course I know it sounds funny and all, but he is only getting constantly seduced by her until he was too weak to resist any more one day (though I couldn't understand in the first place why he would still let her drive him home when she was doing all those despicable things like bribing him). Now they have a common sex relationship (with motivation on both sides) , though I'm still not sure what I should think about Yayoi and her moves. It's actually really exciting to see how this will turn out.
If you insist we can call Touya her love slave! :P

FF said:
The crying made me laugh because it was pathetic.

phantom19 said:
While it did start out ok, they way that it's going is just so bad that it's good. Let me paraphrase the part where Touya starts crying: "Oh no, my gf didn't tell me her feelings while I was hooking up with my childhood friend and her manager. How could she do that to me?!"

I'm really only watching for the christmas cake action right now since I'm not really interested in anyone else. Rina is even feeling bad that he't not hanging out with her but with Yayoi. I also don't know why Yuki doesn't say anything about all this. Maybe she really is that dependent or weak but it's really sad. I really have to think hard about whether I'll continue watching the 2nd part.