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Dec 7, 2014 5:58 AM

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Shiro is so gay. He won't allow Saber to sleep with him and he doesn't notice that rin and sakura wants his dick but he has no problem in taking off another guys clothes.
Dec 7, 2014 6:21 AM

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so school bully is back, o well at least we might see him die soon
thats all i feel to say bout this ep
Dec 7, 2014 6:24 AM

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Lel, good episode. Tsundere Rin is still tsundere. :3
Dec 7, 2014 6:49 AM

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Pat_To_Do-List said:
After a huge disaster happened to the school, the school still opened? Weird. Maybe the headmaster is somehow related/knows about the Holy Grail War & kept the school opened was one of his strategy?

And why did Shirou need to strip Issei down? Wouldn't be enough just to see his hands?
Thank the Church/Kirei for that.

The Command Seals DONT have to be on the hands.
Dec 7, 2014 6:58 AM

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I thought all japanese characters in anime had black hair, with the different colors being the shades of black, underlining the only difference in japanese hair IRL.

Is Shirou supposed to be a real redhead, not a black haired japanese boy with ginger hue ?
I'm a big softie.
Dec 7, 2014 7:02 AM
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^I never really thought too hard about it, it would be hard to identify certain characters if they all just had different shades XD
Dec 7, 2014 7:06 AM

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I am pretty sure Shrou's hair color is m ore of a lighter brown.
So yes natural.
Dec 7, 2014 7:07 AM

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FakePriest said:
The Command Seals DONT have to be on the hands.

I see. I did not know that. Maybe I missed the explanation about it.
I like anime.
Dec 7, 2014 7:21 AM

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Pat_To_Do-List said:
FakePriest said:
The Command Seals DONT have to be on the hands.

I see. I did not know that. Maybe I missed the explanation about it.
There is none in this route.
In Fate route you see Ilya's Command Seals.
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Dec 7, 2014 7:41 AM

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CookingPriest said:


I am pretty sure botato is being sarcastic
Yeah, I perfectly saw that.

But stuff like you mentioning Saber looks caucasian or Fake's exemple of Saber Sakura being japanese and yet looking just like Saber were clearly not about narrative information.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Dec 7, 2014 7:44 AM

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Saber Sakura sounds like something out of 3rei.....
Dec 7, 2014 7:58 AM

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y123y said:
CookingPriest said:


I am pretty sure botato is being sarcastic

Narrative information takes precedent over visual information. In this case neither Saber nor Gil would have defining facial features to make us realize, but that is taken care through character statements.

If we combine visual information with narrative information what do we get?
- Blond male(visual information) that looks foreigner-ish(narrative information).

We can't separate them or use one to justify the other. The Blondie is not blond because he is a foreigner. He is blond AND foreigner, both traits complementing each other.


Shirou is a red-head.... yet not a foreigner


Shirou is an orphan, he could be a foreigner for all we know lol
Dec 7, 2014 8:08 AM

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Yawn, I'm gonna stop this series right here and rewatch fate/zero since its been a long time. I wanna see if it can make me continue this show. Also to see that was Saber this bland in fate/zero.

Saber talks like a damn receptionist, I can't stand her talking, my eyebrows furrowed everytime she opens her god damn mouth. The script feels like its ripped out the visual novel without any cuts, ugh edit the unnecsessary stuff out, these boring characters need to talk less. In addition of the constant boring face shot jumpcuts or still conversation shots, characters barely moving and background characters not moving a budge, it feels like I'm watching a visual novel. The animation is still pretty, just wish they do more camera work and character animation. I'm just as exhausted as I was watching fate/zero S1.

Maybe I need to be a fan of fate to like these characters, some I find obnoxious or sleep-inducing. I only like archer and Rin (sometimes). Well Shirou's improving.

It's a pain watching this show, I don't think it will get better as it goes on no matter what shocking plot twist that's going to happen, so meh at least its better than the deen adaptation. ;( disappointed, wanted to like this.

It did has its momments but too much inconveineince in the way
kyonJIEDec 7, 2014 8:14 AM
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Dec 7, 2014 8:13 AM

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kyonJIE said:
Yawn, I'm gonna stop this series right here and rewatch fate/zero since its been a long time. I wanna see if it can make me continue this show. Also to see that was Saber this bland in fate/zero.

Saber talks like a damn receptionist, I can't stand her talking, my eyebrows furrowed everytime she opens her god damn mouth. The script feels like its ripped out the visual novel without any cuts, ugh edit the unnecsessary stuff out, these boring characters need to talk less. In addition of the constant boring face shot jumpcuts or still conversation shots, characters barely moving and background characters not moving a budge, it feels like I'm watching a visual novel. The animation is still pretty, just wish they do more camera work and character animation. I'm just as exhausted as I was watching fate/zero S1.

Maybe I need to be a fan of fate to like these characters, some I find obnoxious or sleep-inducing. I only like archer and Rin (sometimes). Well Shirou's improving.

It's a pain watching this show, I don't think it will get better as it goes on no matter what shocking plot twist that's going to happen, so meh at least its better than the deen adaptation. ;( disappointed, wanted to like this.



The first 9 episodes of F/Z are no better than the first 9 episodes of this show, but keep comparing a finished show to one 9 episodes in please. Episode 9 of F/Z is almost all talking, there is A LOT of talking in every episode except 1 or 2 in F/Z 9 episodes in.

F-Z events 2-9



So you will go through S1 F/Z which you didn't like but give up on this show in 9 episodes when it does the same things as F/Z. Logical
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kyonJIE said:
Yawn, I'm gonna stop this series right here and rewatch fate/zero since its been a long time. I wanna see if it can make me continue this show. Also to see that was Saber this bland in fate/zero.

Saber talks like a damn receptionist, I can't stand her talking, my eyebrows furrowed everytime she opens her god damn mouth. The script feels like its ripped out the visual novel without any cuts, ugh edit the unnecsessary stuff out, these boring characters need to talk less. In addition of the constant boring face shot jumpcuts or still conversation shots, characters barely moving and background characters not moving a budge, it feels like I'm watching a visual novel. The animation is still pretty, just wish they do more camera work and character animation. I'm just as exhausted as I was watching fate/zero S1.

Maybe I need to be a fan of fate to like these characters, some I find obnoxious or sleep-inducing. I only like archer and Rin (sometimes). Well Shirou's improving.

It's a pain watching this show, I don't think it will get better as it goes on no matter what shocking plot twist that's going to happen, so meh at least its better than the deen adaptation. ;( disappointed, wanted to like this.

It did has its momments but too much inconveineince in the way

So you like FZ because it has the same "flaws" as FSN?
Dec 7, 2014 8:21 AM

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I honestly find it really funny when people seem to imply that Fate Zero was an anime exclusively about action. It was not, in fact FSN UBW had at this point just as much action if not more than the first 9 episodes of Fate Zero.
Dec 7, 2014 8:22 AM

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Here we go again -_-
Dec 7, 2014 8:24 AM

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Well, at least he has an open mind and is at least trying to enjoy this series, compared to others anyway, I think. Most people would just say "ugh shirou exact same stupid idiot ginger from old show" and be done with that.

If nothing else, do note that VN readers consider this part of the story the slowest part. Like Fate/Zero though, it'll seriously get heated up by second cour.
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
Dec 7, 2014 8:26 AM

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BotatoPriest said:
Here we go again -_-
At this point I'd still prefer we kept talking about the characters' hair colors.

At least it's a change from the endless F/SN v. F/0 debate.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Dec 7, 2014 8:28 AM

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People can compare F/Z and FSN all they want as long as they compare it to the amount of air time FSN has had and I'll have no problem with it.
Dec 7, 2014 8:29 AM

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Dec 7, 2014 9:07 AM

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Ddashung said:
I thought all japanese characters in anime had black hair, with the different colors being the shades of black, underlining the only difference in japanese hair IRL.

Is Shirou supposed to be a real redhead, not a black haired japanese boy with ginger hue ?


Shirou could always be half-Scot ~.~

sullynathan said:
Shiro is so gay. He won't allow Saber to sleep with him and he doesn't notice that rin and sakura wants his dick but he has no problem in taking off another guys clothes.


Oh, man. This.
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Dec 7, 2014 9:48 AM

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I think you guys are missing the point.

Characters aren't supposed to have the same shade of hair. Especially the heroines. That would be utterly blasphemous.


Dec 7, 2014 9:52 AM

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About hair colors -
You see, in Japan, hair color can be anything but blonde. This is because if you are blonde, you are not Japanese; you are American. All blondes are american, because all americans are blonde.

This is a proven fact that has been studied extensively by gureito nippon scientists. Related facts found out through this study:
1. All foreigners are, by nature, American
2. If you are not Japanese, you speak English
3. If you are american, you are from Texas. All of America is texas.

The more you know~
Dec 7, 2014 10:18 AM
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When Saber will become the best thing in the franchise? She's pretty much a secondary character that has nothing special besides being strong and beautiful.

Dec 7, 2014 10:19 AM

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Kolnikov said:
When Saber will become the best thing in the franchise? She's pretty much a secondary character that has nothing special besides being strong and beautiful.

Why does Saber have to become the best thing in the franchise?
Dec 7, 2014 10:22 AM
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FakePriest said:
Kolnikov said:
When Saber will become the best thing in the franchise? She's pretty much a secondary character that has nothing special besides being strong and beautiful.

Why does Saber have to become the best thing in the franchise?


I don't think she does, but apparently I'm exception. That's why I'm asking.
Dec 7, 2014 10:26 AM

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All I will say is :Saber is not the most important character in this route. Not the second most important or third either.
Dec 7, 2014 10:27 AM

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Kolnikov said:
FakePriest said:
Why does Saber have to become the best thing in the franchise?


I don't think she does, but apparently I'm exception. That's why I'm asking.


Some people LOOOOVE saber
Some people LOOOOVE rin
Some people tolerate Sakura

People will go very far to promote their favorite characters, despite the fact that it rarely changes anyone's mind about their own favorite characters.


Dec 7, 2014 10:28 AM

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Poor Sakura always getting the shaft.
Dec 7, 2014 10:36 AM

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SwordHand said:
Kolnikov said:


I don't think she does, but apparently I'm exception. That's why I'm asking.


Some people LOOOOVE saber
Some people LOOOOVE rin
Some people tolerate Sakura

People will go very far to promote their favorite characters, despite the fact that it rarely changes anyone's mind about their own favorite characters.
Difference is most Fate/ titles brainwash people into thinking Saber is absolutely amazing. We even have ~5 clones for her. It's all Takeuchi's doing.

Sakura just had to share her route with 4 other characters, and doesn't have a Takeuchi-like guardian.
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nocorras said:
kyonJIE said:
Yawn, I'm gonna stop this series right here and rewatch fate/zero since its been a long time. I wanna see if it can make me continue this show. Also to see that was Saber this bland in fate/zero.

Saber talks like a damn receptionist, I can't stand her talking, my eyebrows furrowed everytime she opens her god damn mouth. The script feels like its ripped out the visual novel without any cuts, ugh edit the unnecsessary stuff out, these boring characters need to talk less. In addition of the constant boring face shot jumpcuts or still conversation shots, characters barely moving and background characters not moving a budge, it feels like I'm watching a visual novel. The animation is still pretty, just wish they do more camera work and character animation. I'm just as exhausted as I was watching fate/zero S1.

Maybe I need to be a fan of fate to like these characters, some I find obnoxious or sleep-inducing. I only like archer and Rin (sometimes). Well Shirou's improving.

It's a pain watching this show, I don't think it will get better as it goes on no matter what shocking plot twist that's going to happen, so meh at least its better than the deen adaptation. ;( disappointed, wanted to like this.



The first 9 episodes of F/Z are no better than the first 9 episodes of this show, but keep comparing a finished show to one 9 episodes in please. Episode 9 of F/Z is almost all talking, there is A LOT of talking in every episode except 1 or 2 in F/Z 9 episodes in.

F-Z events 2-9



So you will go through S1 F/Z which you didn't like but give up on this show in 9 episodes when it does the same things as F/Z. Logical


an yet many people think that Fate Zero has great action when it barelly had any fighting an when it did had action it usually ended up being interrupted
Dec 7, 2014 10:39 AM

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BotatoPriest said:
Difference is most Fate/ titles brainwashe people into thinking Saber is absolutely amazing.



The "clones" don't help Saber (the "original") at all. Many people much prefer the "clones" over the "original".

*points to Fai, the resident Nero fan.
Dec 7, 2014 10:40 AM

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BotatoPriest said:
SwordHand said:


Some people LOOOOVE saber
Some people LOOOOVE rin
Some people tolerate Sakura

People will go very far to promote their favorite characters, despite the fact that it rarely changes anyone's mind about their own favorite characters.
Difference is most Fate/ titles brainwash people into thinking Saber is absolutely amazing. We even have ~5 clones for her. It's all Takeuchi's doing.

Sakura just had to share her route with 4 other characters, and doesn't have a Takeuchi-like guardian.


Saber is the poster girl of Type Moon (unless it's Neco-Arc, IDK.) And people like what characters they like. Directors can influence that for sure, but it's the people that decide what they like.

All of the characters have their own endearing traits, and people will gravitate to different ones because they are attracted to different kinds of appeals. Which is why all these debates over the most important characters are nonsensical because we like different characters for different reasons.


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Why is Takeuchi the worst thing about Type-Moon?
I feel like he's responsible for everything that I dislike about their works.
Dec 7, 2014 10:48 AM

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Kaixe-Rho said:
Why is Takeuchi the worst thing about Type-Moon?
I feel like he's responsible for everything that I dislike about their works.
Because he is actually Mira-chan and she's such a silly Taiga...

Seriously though, only thing I am aware of that some fans don't like about him is his tendency to make characters look like Saber *points at new Arcuied design*
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BotatoPriest said:
Kaixe-Rho said:
Why is Takeuchi the worst thing about Type-Moon?
I feel like he's responsible for everything that I dislike about their works.
Because he is actually Mira-chan and she's such a silly Taiga...

Seriously though, only thing I am aware of that some fans don't like about him is his tendency to make characters look like Saber *points at new Arcuied design*


What's not to like about the new Arceuid? She's like an Illya put in Saber, with
powers. That's like... three characters in one!

In all seriousness though, Saber and Arc couldn't be more different personality-wise.
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Old Arc>New Arc>Saber
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SwordHand said:
BotatoPriest said:
Because he is actually Mira-chan and she's such a silly Taiga...

Seriously though, only thing I am aware of that some fans don't like about him is his tendency to make characters look like Saber *points at new Arcuied design*


What's not to like about the new Arceuid? She's like an Illya put in Saber, with
powers. That's like... three characters in one!



Remake-Arc still lacks something...

Dec 7, 2014 1:09 PM

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Kaixe-Rho said:
About hair colors -
You see, in Japan, hair color can be anything but blonde. This is because if you are blonde, you are not Japanese; you are American. All blondes are american, because all americans are blonde.

This is a proven fact that has been studied extensively by gureito nippon scientists. Related facts found out through this study:
1. All foreigners are, by nature, American
2. If you are not Japanese, you speak English
3. If you are american, you are from Texas. All of America is texas.

The more you know~


Actually, it's English. In most anime/manga/japanesemedia, Blonde people are English. And not all americans are blonde....b-b-b-baka.

The more you don't know~
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Dec 7, 2014 1:59 PM

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"Issei take of your clothes" :)
Episode were ok, with more of Shirou
and Rin past and plans + Tsundere Rin everywhere
Saber were also cute but not enough screen time for her :(
Shinji again - i hate how he make it sound
like Rider was totally useless servent when hes
such a big loser......
oh and Kirai back to.
Dec 7, 2014 2:45 PM

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I thought ufotable won't do stupid rom com moment and...they did with rin x shirou in this week(last week also) ep. I'm so glad they did, i got a chuckle out of it XD. My god shinji...what an as#hole.
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Another good episode, not much happened in terms of story but at least we saw some interesting scenes with Shirou and Tohsaka (and I would say this was maybe the first time when they did capture their feelings almost right). That Tohsaka's hypothetical question though... well. Also, it was nice to see some contrast when Saber asked Shirou about Kiritsugu and his childhood - although she was felt a bit oblivious to obvious in that situation it was another piece for making Shirou's motivations known.

SwordHand said:
All of the characters have their own endearing traits, and people will gravitate to different ones because they are attracted to different kinds of appeals. Which is why all these debates over the most important characters are nonsensical because we like different characters for different reasons.

Finally someone with reason! Thanks, mate, for writing this.

I can say I like Sakura the most (because, well, of her appeal ofc and because of things that happened to her during HF) but unilke many other VNs FSN is special for me as I can say I also like Saber and Rin during their respective routes. And after playing FHA I can say there isn't any FEMALE character I don't like in this franchise and that is only the proof of how well they are written.
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OMG it's


Nah seriously, can this get any better?
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Dec 7, 2014 9:35 PM

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PriestSlayer said:

Nah seriously, can this get any better?


Yes.
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Dec 7, 2014 11:40 PM

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PriestSlayer said:
OMG it's


Nah seriously, can this get any better?


No, it doesn't get better than him.



Jks.
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Dec 8, 2014 12:05 AM

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SwordHand said:
Kolnikov said:


I don't think she does, but apparently I'm exception. That's why I'm asking.


Some people LOOOOVE saber
Some people LOOOOVE rin
Some people LOOOOVE Sakura

People will go very far to promote their favorite characters, despite the fact that it rarely changes anyone's mind about their own favorite characters.


Fixed.
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Tone_ said:
nocorras said:


Found out Issei isn't a master. Found out Shinji gets a servant. Find out what Shirou thinks about his ideals.

This could be handled in less than 5min tho.


like lotr
Dec 8, 2014 6:12 AM

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Mich666 said:
I can say I like Sakura the most (because, well, of her appeal ofc and because of things that happened to her during HF) but unilke many other VNs FSN is special for me as I can say I also like Saber and Rin during their respective routes. And after playing FHA I can say there isn't any FEMALE character I don't like in this franchise and that is only the proof of how well they are written.
This I agree with. Only female I didn't like as much (but didn't hate either) so far was Luvia Eldefelt.

That changed recently though, after reading Fate/Kaleid manga.

ChrnoTodd said:
Tone_ said:

This could be handled in less than 5min tho.


like lotr
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I hope this doesn't end up the same as last time...
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BotatoPriest said:
ChrnoTodd said:


like lotr
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I hope this doesn't end up the same as last time...


Gollum can fight servants, discuss.
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