IamVermillion said: sntiago said: I think at this for people to stop calling something queerbait and for other people to stop saying "this show is queerbaiting" is "reaching", shows need to be as unsubtle and unnuanced as possible, just straight up "hey, I, a man, like you romantically, you who is also a man, making me and this relationship gay, homosexual as in 'not heterosexual'. I hope you reciprocate my very homosexual, non-heterosexual man x man feelings" Agreed, we need some good representation. At this point it is too subtle, especially the way the translators made use of the english 'like' verb that can be interpreted different ways. You know, those subtitle people did us dirty. They clearly chose to phrase it like that to lull the English fluent homophobes into a false sense of straitness. I reckon that bit of translating may be considered queerbaiting, but we know by the original that it was not meant to be taken heterosexually. actually the TL's did a perfectly fine job with that translation tbh. "suki nandesho" translates to pretty much "You like [subject], don't you?" (jap don't often use 'love' words so suki = to like usually takes place), and even in English 'like' would've most definitely been used in those kinds of conversations than 'love' (which is usually used more when the couples already established more often than not). given how langa's mom was thinking this was some shoujo manga drama with the FL, her context most likely is in a romantic sense, given how Langa reacts his context is probably as well but knowing this director it could easily be played out as platonic. tbh the director probably left it slightly ambiguous on purpose to let people have their own headcannon but we'd have to see how the remaining eps play out |
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| I really hope so, I don't want this anime to be ruined by gay romance. It would be a shame because I would have to drop the score to 2/10. |
| To clear a thing: when Langa talked to his mom about Reki they used the word „suki“. It can mean both „like“ and „love“. But it doesn’t always have to be romantic. In Japan people would say this to their friends, family members, pets... it doesn’t necessarily mean it‘s romantic love. Because some people say it‘s canon that Langa is in love with Reki because he said so. No he didn’t. He said he liked Reki but it’s unclear if he meant it in a romantic way or not. (I wouldn’t mind either way by the way.) |
| yes 100% absolutely. It sucks because this is a good show but they can't decide if they want it to be gay or not. I wish it would pick a lane. |
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Elviri27 said: Only_Brad said: I really hope so, I don't want this anime to be ruined by gay romance. It would be a shame because I would have to drop the score to 2/10. People like this are the reason those shows choose to stay ambiguous enough for the fujo's to assume it's canon but also ambiguous enough for people like them to keep watching it and telling themselves there are no gay relationships in it. They know that as soon as they confirm something it would be classified as yaoi and it would lose a whole group of possible fans. By keeping it vague they also get more people to speculate about it- like this thread proves -and that's more attention for the anime. I feel like here in the scene with the mom, Langa's blush can be interpreted as a confirmation, but then the surprise he showed when he realised his mom was talking about a girl, seemed to be added as a: 'don't forget, you can still see this in a straight way!' Would I prefer to see some canon gay ships? Yes. But I don't think studio's will do that soon. I don't think we will get things that are more 'explicit' than Yuri On Ice was. These people don't buy the BD/DVD so they are basically irrelevant. But the suits in charge are dumb and they think they do, Yuri on Ice was like that because the director fought for it and she still got censored. |
CielsEarlGrey said: IshigamiCrisis said: Personally, I don’t think it’s queer baiting like Yuri!! On Ice. If they got into a relationship together at the end, I’d 100% support it and I hope it wouldn’t be contrived. Other than what swixzy said, I personally did not see any romantic feelings between them, but rather, the ‘bond of friendship’ albeit cliche way to phrase it. They also don’t really talk about relationships in the anime very much, if at all, so there’s not enough ‘hinting’ for me to consider Sk8 that way. Feel free to disagree, but I just see it as a fun, over-the-top sports anime :D Lmao in which world is Yuri on ice a queerbait I- We’ll be having the movie now and then another season for sure. Their relationship has just started turning into a romantic one. It is a short 12 eps anime afterall. I personally like the fact that they haven’t started dating yet. But yet”we still have to wait that much for the sequels.. And also, people from the cast have said that they’re in love so whatcha talkin about my dude. The kiss was an actual canon kiss too, so Have to hard disagree on Yuri!! On Ice. Here is the 'kiss' scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxmASvFMuLM It's literally censored. Regardless of whether or not the kiss scene is canon, how can that not be at least in consideration that this scene ‘might be’ queerbait? If Yuri!! On Ice actually was open about the MCs being in an openly gay relationship or being romantically interested in each other, I would not accuse YOI of this. Heck, 2 of the top reviews for the show either call the show queerbait or 'not gay enough'. You don't have to agree with me, but it's downright frustrating and even offensive for me to see this occur when there are actually well-represented LGBTQ+ media like Yagate Kimi ni Naru and Asagao to Kase-san. Heck, although Sk8 might be considered queerbaiting to some, it's not nearly on the level of YOI. If you want to check an anime with good BL, I recommend Given. |
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IshigamiCrisis said: CielsEarlGrey said: Lmao in which world is Yuri on ice a queerbait I- We’ll be having the movie now and then another season for sure. Their relationship has just started turning into a romantic one. It is a short 12 eps anime afterall. I personally like the fact that they haven’t started dating yet. But yet”we still have to wait that much for the sequels.. And also, people from the cast have said that they’re in love so whatcha talkin about my dude. The kiss was an actual canon kiss too, so Have to hard disagree on Yuri!! On Ice. Here is the 'kiss' scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxmASvFMuLM It's literally censored. Yeah, because it was gay lmao.  Yuri on Ice authors wasn't trying to "bait" you or anyone, she wrote a gay love story in the capacity she could in a society where gay male relationships are shunned. Just look at this thread or the other and see how many people go "ewww BL" The only reason you think it's "queerbait" (Do people thik the character in YoI are straight lmao? Because that's what it means) is because one of them is not a girl lmao. If you want to check an anime with good BL, I recommend Given. The only reason Given has all that stuff is because it's literal BL, it's an adaption of a gay manga in a magazine aimed at girls who enjoy gay porn, it doesn't have to deal with censorship. The show is was less courageous that you think, there are over 500 manga similar to Given. |
Bernrika said: IshigamiCrisis said: Have to hard disagree on Yuri!! On Ice. Here is the 'kiss' scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxmASvFMuLM It's literally censored. Yeah, because it was gay lmao. Yuri on Ice authors wasn't trying to "bait" you or anyone, she wrote a gay love story in the capacity she could in a society where gay male relationships are shunned. Just look at this thread or the other and see how many people go "ewww BL" The only reason you think it's "queerbait" (Do people thik the character in YoI are straight lmao? Because that's what it means) is because one of them is not a girl lmao. If you want to check an anime with good BL, I recommend Given. The only reason Given has all that stuff is because it's literal BL, it's an adaption of a gay manga in a magazine aimed at girls who enjoy gay porn, it doesn't have to deal with censorship. The show is was less courageous that you think, there are over 500 manga similar to Given. I still maintain my opinion. Obviously, it is clear that both Yuri and Victor are romantically interested in each other. That's detracting from my point. Regardless of what the YOI authors intended, it still comes off as queerbait if the romance is HINTED at but NEVER depicted. Heck, YOI is not even in the romance or shounen ai genre. Anytime the word 'love' is used is never put into context. This might've passed in HS literature where you can analyze if Dale Harding from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1962) might've been LGBTQ+, but Yuri!! On Ice is from 2016. There is nothing wrong with having LGBTQ+ relationships being accurately depicted in media and its been more and more accepted internationally. One of the prefectures of Japan was the first place in Asia to openly embrace LGBTQ+. In fact, your claim that Given doesn't have to deal with censorship while YOI is censored does not make sense. They both broadcast on Japanese TV. Neither of them are R-rated so they get the same treatment. Why are they hiding it? I don't care if people are homophobic in this thread or others, YOI is not a pioneer of gay rights when there are actual anime who will openly embrace itself as a BL. Calling Given a "manga in a magazine aimed at girls who enjoy gay porn" is an insult to their fans. I would argue that because of the fanservice in YOI, it should be put in the ecchi or even yaoi genre. It confuses me when MAL puts the Given manga in yaoi yet MAL does not categorize YOI as ecchi, shounen ai, romance, or yaoi. Maybe it's another case of Free!. I don't care if you agree with me, but you're going to have live knowing that I and quite a few others believe YOI is blatant queerbait. Thankfully, Sk8 is not this frustrating. |
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IshigamiCrisis said: I still maintain my opinion. Obviously, it is clear that both Yuri and Victor are romantically interested in each other. That's detracting from my point. Regardless of what the YOI authors intended, it still comes off as queerbait if the romance is HINTED at but NEVER depicted. ]https://i.imgur.com/bUq9FD7.jpg Are you telling me that if one of those characters were a girl, you would debate this was not a depiction of romance? What is a depiction of what, friendship???? In fact, your claim that Given doesn't have to deal with censorship while YOI is censored does not make sense. They both broadcast on Japanese TV. Neither of them are R-rated so they get the same treatment. Why are they hiding it. I explained it to you why they are hiding it lol. One is a BL manga. It's a product written by a a woman on a magazine aimed at women and that existed before the anime. Every producer, director, Japanese suit and staff member involved in the anime knew that whey were going to adapt it and why.They picked a BL manga and sold it a BL product. If you do not want to adapt a BL manga you don not involve yourself with it! BL nomenclature quite acts a warning for people, don't you see how many people here write "I hope it's not BL!" all the time? Yuri on Ice is an anime original where no one knew what the show was about, the director portraying a homosexual male romance in it meant that every sponsor and suit involved with it had to face the fact they were sponsoring a gay romance while they were not told it was the case. It doesn't make sense to you, but it is what happened! The director herself said she was subjected to censorship! Why do you think that happened? You seem under the impression that writers are free to do what they want, but I assure you it's not the case! YOI is not a pioneer of gay rights when there are actual anime who will openly embrace itself as a BL. Name one who is not an adaptation? Maybe Sarazanmai, but it came out years after Yuri on Ice. I believe Ikuhara himself said that a product like Sarazanami would not have been possible years ago! Calling Given a "manga in a magazine aimed at girls who enjoy gay porn" is an insult to their fan .... But i is a a manga aimed at girls who enjoy gay porn? Maybe you would prefer "gay porn and romance"? https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=97317 https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/1001/Cheri_ There is literal gay porn on the magazine Given is published. This isn't bad, mind you, I enjoy porn too but it's actual a thing Given fans need to understand. Being an adaptation of a BL manga written in magazine that does not censor M/M content allows Given creator to freely show things. And it's great she can show what she wants, but Given can exist as it is because of the magazine it is published! It confuses me when MAL puts the Given manga in yaoi yet MAL does not categorize YOI as ecchi, shounen ai, romance, or yaoi. Maybe it's another case of Free!. I don't care if you agree with me, but you're going to have live knowing that I and quite a few others believe YOI is blatant queerbait. Thankfully, Sk8 is not this frustrating. Because YoI is a sport anime, it is not marketed as Yaoi. |
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| Anime/manga series that are accused of queerbaiting tend to be aimed at female audiences rather than lgbtq audiences specifically. The Japanese use labels "joseimuke" and "fumuke" for entertainment aimed at women, whereas entertainment aimed at lgbtq people is called "geimuke" etc. It's unfair to complain about lgbtq specific grievances in a series that is obviously meant as a fan service for women, fujoshi specifically. Are women not allowed to have their fantasies catered to? There are dozens of waifubait and harem fantasy shows aimed at male viewers and nobody complains (most of the time), but the moment female viewers get something tailor-made for them it's immediately put under a microscope for being "problematic". If you're lgbtq and are pissed that SK8 isn't doing it for you then I'm sorry, I hope you find something more fitting for your tastes elsewhere. But claiming that the show has something wrong with it because it follows the same cheesy tropes that fujoshi enjoy isn't the right way to go either. I mean, call it predictable or badly written all you want, but no need to start any crusades in the name of political correctness. |
crys- said: Bacon24 said: reki and langa dont have a canon romantic relationship yet but langa’s convo with his mom in the episode w/ the context and language used is basically langa admitting he has a crush on reki so i mean,, not much to explain herewhen was it canon lol? Actually his mother asked if it was a person he liked and he said yes. But it doesn’t have to be a romantic meaning. The term „suki“ can be used for both ways of liking someone. As a friend or in a romantic way. Obviously Langa didn’t get what his mother actually meant. |
| Even disregarding Reki and Langa's near-text relationship, Adam PROPOSED TO TADASHI IN THE FINAL EPISODE AND TADASHI SAID YES WHILE BLUSHING. So no, it's can't be queerbait. |
| Personally, I don't need explicit-on-screen-confirmation for me to consider characters LGBT+ or not. As long as there is evidence to support your claim, it's absolutely valid to consider characters as just friends and/or lovers. There also is a difference between queercoding and queerbaiting- and I think sk8 definitely has a lot of emphasis on the coding part. (For example, if you look at skating as a symbol for homosexuality, then Adam/Tadashi's story is about two men struggling with sexuality vs society. On the flip side- Adam adds to the harmful villain trope that stereotypes queer men as creepy pedos sooo...). I just think people throw around the work "queerbaiting" too loosely (especially when compared to the writing for shows like BBC's Sherlock). Just because your favorite ship doesn't kiss on screen doesn't mean the writers were queerbaiting you. Sometimes hints are all we can get because- as shown above in a previous comment- LGBT+ still isn't fully accepted in society, and producers don't want to risk alienating audiences. |
Weebslayerr69 said: platonicswords said: Even disregarding Reki and Langa's near-text relationship, Adam PROPOSED TO TADASHI IN THE FINAL EPISODE AND TADASHI SAID YES WHILE BLUSHING. So no, it's can't be queerbait. Uhmm I guess we didn't watch the same episode then, he literally said you're gonna be my dog, y'know? Like he's always be been Nah that's not possible because that would mean Adam didn't go through character development which is false. You missed the key part, which was "You'll be MY dog FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES". The "dog" is a pet name, because he used it to refer to Tadashi derogatorily at the beginning it's a callback but he uses it affectionately now? He's literally saying "Be mine for the rest of our lives" and if you can't see how that's a proposal then you are just willfully ignoring the text at this point. And Tadashi's blushing reaction would make 0 sense unless it was a proposal. |
| I think it is, but isn't every sports anime queerbaiting to some extent? I'm kinda used to it at this point honestly. SK8 is tipotoeing the line between platonic and non platonic. But without anything explicit or het pairings in the end, it can get away with the ambiguity and still be fun imo. There's room to be interpreted by the audience as a friendship or as a friendship and a romance. It depends on what each person wants to see. Now, the fact that m/m relationships sell well is a different story. I find the queerbaiting in shows like Free! a lot more blatant personally. |
| I think the series handled it pretty well tbh! Lots of sports anime have at least one bromance that comes across as more than that but to the fans dismay a lot of those series try hard to make the characters straight in the end. In this case it's totally ambiguous and it heavily depends on how you want to read the subtext that's been there the whole time. So here are my thoughts on Langa/Reki: Reki might be straight but might be bi without knowing. To me he doesn't seem the type to be experienced in romance at all. Especially considering that skateboarding was all that's on his mind pretty much. There is one scene at the beach episode where he wants to talk to the girl on the boat but to me that seemed super innocent, like idk typical elementary school boy behaviour "Oh a cute girl omg!" Does that 100% confirm that he must be straight? Nah I don't think so. Sexual preferance is way deeper than that and must also be explored, most people start out thinking they are straight or behave that way because that's just the status quo in our society. Reki is a little dummy and I doubt he ever really worried about that stuff. THIS might change completely now that he got to know Langa and got so close to him. Langa on the other hand is way more obvious imo. There is the mom conversation but also the very soft looks he has for Reki only. not only that but he is very protective of Reki as well(beach scene, monster escape scene, scene where he gets between Reki and Adam when Adam approached Reki etc.) Also the ending sequence "what makes me happy..." and the whole heart beating thing while skating. There are also so many small details in their body language, like Reki continiously holding onto Langa in a lot of situations. Again even in the ending sequence when Adam just fell from the sky about to crash their party, everyone just fucks off while Reki is just holding Langa lol. At the end of the day people can interpret it the way they want and that's incredibly fun! I want to see it that way but other people might be put off or just like them better as friends and that's okay as well. I like it better this way than just outright trying to make the characters heterosexual in retrospective. One last thing...I don't like Adam at all but damn that guy screamed gay the entire series if you ask me and don't get me started with the whole 'be my dog for your entire life', come on aaah xD |
Only_Brad said: I really hope so, I don't want this anime to be ruined by gay romance. It would be a shame because I would have to drop the score to 2/10. Agreed. It was a good and wholesome friendship between Reki and Langa, no need for them to be gay. Would completely ruin their dynamic. Adam would've been a better character if he wasn't constantly spouting gay lines. Threads like this never cease to amaze me in showing how broken our culture is. |
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platonicswords said: Weebslayerr69 said: Uhmm I guess we didn't watch the same episode then, he literally said you're gonna be my dog, y'know? Like he's always be been Nah that's not possible because that would mean Adam didn't go through character development which is false. You missed the key part, which was "You'll be MY dog FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES". The "dog" is a pet name, because he used it to refer to Tadashi derogatorily at the beginning it's a callback but he uses it affectionately now? He's literally saying "Be mine for the rest of our lives" and if you can't see how that's a proposal then you are just willfully ignoring the text at this point. And Tadashi's blushing reaction would make 0 sense unless it was a proposal. tadashi always loved adam.  2 hearts in a pool for who? being adam's dog forever = skating infinitely with you forever |
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Weebslayerr69 said: platonicswords said: Nah that's not possible because that would mean Adam didn't go through character development which is false. You missed the key part, which was "You'll be MY dog FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES". The "dog" is a pet name, because he used it to refer to Tadashi derogatorily at the beginning it's a callback but he uses it affectionately now? He's literally saying "Be mine for the rest of our lives" and if you can't see how that's a proposal then you are just willfully ignoring the text at this point. And Tadashi's blushing reaction would make 0 sense unless it was a proposal. I guess whenever somebody blushes then it immediately means their in love? Bc that's what people were saying about Langa too, till they got butthurt over their ship not working out Yeah exactly that's what I'm saying. Think of it in the perspective of the writers - what other purpose could blushing serve other than to hint at romantic feelings? Tadashi clearly isn't embarrassed from his expression. They KNOW what they're doing and they know adding blushing will add a romantic implication to a scene. Even without the blushing what Adam said was enough to imply it was a proposal So yes I am saying that I think Langa and Reki are in love too, but it isn't explicitly shown because you don't HAVE to to explicit to know two characters are in love. And according to your logic that would also mean Banana Fish and Utena's TV anime would be queerbaiting. |
| Oh my god, some of the "If SK8 turns out to be a gay anime, I'mma drop it-" comments here gives me lowkey homophobic vibes, I hate it. For me, I felt it was obvious Langa have unrequited feelings for Reki (I would be fine if that was the case, but still a bit upset xD) The gestures, how much they care for each other and etc. And no, I am not doing this because two guys have a strong bromance bond, it is how I LEGIT feel about their relationship. |
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| There is such thing as queer coding. Queerbaiting is mostly tryna attract an audience of gay people to boost their views and ratings Queer coding is by making the characters sexuality ambiguous but clearly obvious to people who are queer/gay. Queer coding is a lot more "harmless" and is a better way of representation without showing everything. |
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Weebslayerr69 said: platonicswords said: Yeah exactly that's what I'm saying. Think of it in the perspective of the writers - what other purpose could blushing serve other than to hint at romantic feelings? Tadashi clearly isn't embarrassed from his expression. They KNOW what they're doing and they know adding blushing will add a romantic implication to a scene. Even without the blushing what Adam said was enough to imply it was a proposal So yes I am saying that I think Langa and Reki are in love too, but it isn't explicitly shown because you don't HAVE to to explicit to know two characters are in love. And according to your logic that would also mean Banana Fish and Utena's TV anime would be queerbaiting. When did they ever say their in love? Just because the care about each other as friends? Their literally two dudes that live skating this isn't a romance and has nothing to do with it, go ship somewhere else tf Go back to school and take a literature class because I'm sure they teach you what "show don't tell" is. The audience isn't so dumb that they need everything spelled out to them to know what's going on. You need a lesson on how to analyse texts... Langa's Mom: (Thinking Langa's talking about a girl) "You like this person right?" Langa: "Yeah" (blushes) Langa: I wanna skate INFINITELY with you! (basically saying they wanna be with each other forever) Langa: "My happiness is..." (Camera cuts to Reki) Adam: Calls Reki a "third wheel" and sees him as an "obstacle" to him and Langa's relationship The S Tournament: Literally called "White Eden WEDDING Beef" The flying hug in Ep 12 is blatantly a reference to Yuri on Ice Ep7 kiss scene. And there's a Drama CD in the first BD/DVD volume where Reki dreams that he's Cinderella and Langa is the prince, and they were about to get married before being interrupted by Adam. Why can't this show be about two dudes who love skating AND also each other? That's a really weird argument you're making because the skating part and romance part aren't mutually exclusive. Plus they did confirm Adam and Tadashi are Together. |
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Weebslayerr69 said: platonicswords said: Go back to school and take a literature class because I'm sure they teach you what "show don't tell" is. The audience isn't so dumb that they need everything spelled out to them to know what's going on. You need a lesson on how to analyse texts... Langa's Mom: (Thinking Langa's talking about a girl) "You like this person right?" Langa: "Yeah" (blushes) Langa: I wanna skate INFINITELY with you! (basically saying they wanna be with each other forever) Langa: "My happiness is..." (Camera cuts to Reki) Adam: Calls Reki a "third wheel" and sees him as an "obstacle" to him and Langa's relationship The S Tournament: Literally called "White Eden WEDDING Beef" The flying hug in Ep 12 is blatantly a reference to Yuri on Ice Ep7 kiss scene. And there's a Drama CD in the first BD/DVD volume where Reki dreams that he's Cinderella and Langa is the prince, and they were about to get married before being interrupted by Adam. Why can't this show be about two dudes who love skating AND also each other? That's a really weird argument you're making because the skating part and romance part aren't mutually exclusive. Plus they did confirm Adam and Tadashi are Together. Guess I just found myself one of those weird toxic shippers lmfao, yeah I need a lesson how to analyze texts just because I didn't blow a simple thing out of proportion, again, they both like skating they aren't in love, simple as that, if you think they are then continue day dreaming about it. To each their own. I DO NOT CARE if you think they're just friends and it's fine if you do. But seriously, it was asshole of you to call people who interpret things differently than you as "weird toxic shippers" and "daydreaming/blowing things out of proportion" when people are free to see it how they like. And I have repeatedly stated evidence that my interpretation has basis in the text, yet you conveniently ignored it and decided to insult me instead lmao. |
Weebslayerr69 said: devastatingdance said: To each their own. I DO NOT CARE if you think they're just friends and it's fine if you do. But seriously, it was asshole of you to call people who interpret things differently than you as "weird toxic shippers" and "daydreaming/blowing things out of proportion" when people are free to see it how they like. And I have repeatedly stated evidence that my interpretation has basis in the text, yet you conveniently ignored it and decided to insult me instead lmao. If you don't care then don't reply simple as that, "interpret things differently than you" no, people that exaggerate anything and everything just so their ship can sail, we don't need another mha fandom ruining the anime community, they can see however they like but if it's stupid then it's stupid, there's no changing that, you insulted me first by telling me to go back to school just because I don't ship people whenever they look at each other or sm. Uhh the people in this fandom smh I think it was you who replied to my interpretation first asking whether we were watching the same show. Once again you're quite insistent on ignoring my points, you know very well that what I said was much more than "they looked at each other so they're in love" yet you try to paint me as ridiculous and stupid when I have offered sound reasoning. I apologise for that insult, but I only retaliated because YOU tried to invalidate how I saw it. You could've just said that you didn't agree, you preferred them as friends and left it there but you had to insist I "go ship somewhere else tf". |
Fruitpie said: Have to agree. The biggest problem of this anime (and SK8 has A LOT of problems) is its dreadfully toxic fandom. lol, straight boys crying toxicity whenever it's about communities where they don't dominate the discussion. has anyone noticed? |
Fruitpie said: doily said: lol, straight boys crying toxicity whenever it's about communities where they don't dominate the discussion. has anyone noticed? Don't know, since I'm not a boy and not crying but saying the plain fact. You're the one who is trying to attack me. Thus confirming my point. what's your point exactly? you attacking this community and when you get called on it, play the victim? |
Weebslayerr69 said: devastatingdance said: I think it was you who replied to my interpretation first asking whether we were watching the same show. Once again you're quite insistent on ignoring my points, you know very well that what I said was much more than "they looked at each other so they're in love" yet you try to paint me as ridiculous and stupid when I have offered sound reasoning. I apologise for that insult, but I only retaliated because YOU tried to invalidate how I saw it. You could've just said that you didn't agree, you preferred them as friends and left it there but you had to insist I "go ship somewhere else tf". Okay what points have you brought up that are actually worth noting? Langa "saying" he likes Reky? You said Langa and Reky are in when Reky never showed any interest in a relationship with Langa, I'm guessing you're a gir and assume when guys are close then they are in love. I'll ask again what good points have you brought up? Since you keep complaining over me ignoring them - Langa's Mom: (Thinking Langa's talking about a girl) "You like this person right?" Langa: "Yeah" (blushes) - Langa: I wanna skate INFINITELY with you! (basically saying they wanna be together forever, and Reki says something similar too) - Langa: "My happiness is..." (Camera cuts to Reki). This is a parallel to the very first scene in Ep1, where Reki also says the same line but it was left ambiguous as their relationship had not developed at that point so it couldn't be shown. - Adam: Calls Reki a "third wheel" and sees him as an "obstacle" to him and Langa's relationship - The S Tournament: Literally called "White Eden WEDDING Beef". The final scene is Reki and Langa making up to their (failed) promise to skate together in the tournament finals. - The flying hug in Ep 12 is blatantly a reference to Yuri on Ice Ep7 kiss scene. - The flying hug in Ep12 and Ep10 when Langa crashes into Reki is also a parallel to Adam's "love hug". - Reki blushes around Langa more than he blushes at the girl in Ep6. - Langa's heart "doesn't feel anything" unless he's skating with Reki. Only when Reki calls out his name he regains the motivation to skate and wins. Similarly in Ep12 he was about to die until he saw the skateboard Reki made him. - Langa's mother comments that Langa was an "empty shell" until he met Reki. - Visual cues such as facial expressions and gestures - the way they look at each other fondly could suggest a romantic implication. - There's a Drama CD in the first BD/DVD volume where Reki dreams that he's Cinderella and Langa is the prince, and they were about to get married before being interrupted by Adam. - The director's previous works are Banana Fish and Free, both feature gay subtext. Ash and Eiji are commonly viewed as a canon couple. I can assure you she knows the implications of what she's writing. - The manga artist drew them in wedding outfits after the last ep came out. I'm not a girl. I don't get your argument about male friendships considering I don't really care about gender when it comes to these stuff. I am not saying that my interpretation of them being in love is absolute. However, you cannot deny that there is basis in my interpretation, and it is not, as you stated, "stupid" and "weird toxic shipping". It's almost like they're deliberately written so that they could be read as being in love so the audience can ship them. |
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