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May 9, 2015 12:13 PM

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13:24 - I see what you did there, UBW. Nice stuff.
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Rushed as hell. That episode was disappointing.
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chat77 said:
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PV said Idealism's End(The Answer) for next episode.



Lancer master is Kotomine Kirei right ?
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May 9, 2015 12:14 PM

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Mathias2001 said:
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Ok.....watched the subs and here is my thoughts :

Positive:

-The first 30 seconds before the op
-the lightning and clouds in UBW
-Rin's monologue about Archer
-Shinji and his comic relief
-That "Faker" though
-Shirou's headache and a bit of analysis skill

Negative:

-The entire UBW part felt a bit underwhelming to me...I expected a bit more grandeur considering its related to the title drop
-Rin and Saber's contract could have been a bit more flashy( imo)
-that RM ground was....cringe worthy....too much CG
-the entire episode felt VERY rushed
-Archer vs Saber should have been longer specially after the contract

-Saber-Lancer banter should have been extended


Rin's and Saber's contract was already very flashy in my opinion. It was bootiful. The next thing is that Archer vs Saber after the contract coudn't be extended. Saber had Rin as a master and her class in the strongest while Archer doesn't have a master. Of course she could dominate him.


I know... the dominance should have been made a bit more clearer though...thats why Archer casted ubw
May 9, 2015 12:15 PM

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WuBoyBR said:
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Lancer master is Kotomine Kirei right ?


not gonna spoil...;)
May 9, 2015 12:15 PM

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CookingPriest said:
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Even though I didn't read the VN, I could tell this was rushed to all hell. Several things felt out of place and overall the pacing was terrible.

Smh.


If this was not rushed, this episode's content would be literally episode and half from NOW and would end with archer leaving.

That should give you an idea of how fast they are going through the material. At this point there will be nothing to fill last episodes with. So I hope you enjoy padding and slow paced stare-downs.



uh, maybe they need to add 5min per episode for blu-ray? (just a suggestion)
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May 9, 2015 12:15 PM

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WuBoyBR said:
Lancer master is Kotomine Kirei right ?

I'm pretty sure there's no way to answer that without spoiling who his master is. lol
May 9, 2015 12:16 PM
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LunatikPriest said:
Rushed as hell. That episode was disappointing.


It wasn't that rushed. It was rushed, I admit but it wasn't rushed as hell. Especially compared to other shows and animes.
May 9, 2015 12:17 PM
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Grey-Zone said:
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He did counter Archer's rain of swords with one of his own, otherwise why would he analyze them? for kek? he also says the following


That means he is about to reproduce the swords, with emphasis of "about to". Then the RM collapses and Archer grabs Rin. We see no description of what Shirou actually does.



Also UBW being used as an actual "forge" instead of a "full inventory with respawning content" is something I like much better.


Well he was intending to do the same thing as Archer and not the lol suicide kanshou and bakuya in hand by Ufo, whether that happened or not is up for debate but it is followed by "... Broken pieces fly everywhere" then the Reality Marble dissapears.
May 9, 2015 12:17 PM

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Fate finally returned to it's full greatness and not only (five minutes greatness, 15 minutes of flashbacks)

I am little disappointed in UBW by Archer though. While I can stand it being short (I am not happy with it but I can stand it), I was also impressed by general epicness of animation there, the thing that I can't forgive is THERE WAS NO FULL CHANT!!!! WHY!!!!

WHY WERE THERE ONLY THREE LINES and all other epicness was skipped. I don't remember how exactly it went in VN anymore as I read it 5-8 years ago but why full chant. Even today after all those years I still go back to either Archer vs Berserk or simple chant from old version just for that chant!

But anyway this episode was great, one of the better so far.
May 9, 2015 12:18 PM

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Grey-Zone said:
Drake1000 said:
He did counter Archer's rain of swords with one of his own, otherwise why would he analyze them? for kek? he also says the following


That means he is about to reproduce the swords, with emphasis of "about to". Then the RM collapses and Archer grabs Rin. We see no description of what Shirou actually does.



Also UBW being used as an actual "forge" instead of a "full inventory with respawning content" is something I like much better.

Holy shit.

e:moved to vn discussion thread
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eso18 said:
Fate finally returned to it's full greatness and not only (five minutes greatness, 15 minutes of flashbacks)

I am little disappointed in UBW by Archer though. While I can stand it being short (I am not happy with it but I can stand it), I was also impressed by general epicness of animation there, the thing that I can't forgive is THERE WAS NO FULL CHANT!!!! WHY!!!!

WHY WERE THERE ONLY THREE LINES and all other epicness was skipped. I don't remember how exactly it went in VN anymore as I read it 5-8 years ago but why full chant. Even today after all those years I still go back to either Archer vs Berserk or simple chant from old version just for that chant!

But anyway this episode was great, one of the better so far.

It's the same in the VN. He only says part of the chant there.
May 9, 2015 12:19 PM

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eso18 said:
Fate finally returned to it's full greatness and not only (five minutes greatness, 15 minutes of flashbacks)

I am little disappointed in UBW by Archer though. While I can stand it being short (I am not happy with it but I can stand it), I was also impressed by general epicness of animation there, the thing that I can't forgive is THERE WAS NO FULL CHANT!!!! WHY!!!!

WHY WERE THERE ONLY THREE LINES and all other epicness was skipped. I don't remember how exactly it went in VN anymore as I read it 5-8 years ago but why full chant. Even today after all those years I still go back to either Archer vs Berserk or simple chant from old version just for that chant!

But anyway this episode was great, one of the better so far.

You've been reading visual novels for a long time, Haru-chan!
May 9, 2015 12:20 PM
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WuBoyBR said:
chat77 said:



Lancer master is Kotomine Kirei right ?


No Lancer's master is Reverse gender Shirou who can only save herself and not the others.
May 9, 2015 12:21 PM

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Drake1000 said:
Grey-Zone said:


That means he is about to reproduce the swords, with emphasis of "about to". Then the RM collapses and Archer grabs Rin. We see no description of what Shirou actually does.



Also UBW being used as an actual "forge" instead of a "full inventory with respawning content" is something I like much better.


Well he was intending to do the same thing as Archer and not the lol suicide kanshou and bakuya in hand by Ufo, whether that happened or not is up for debate but it is followed by "... Broken pieces fly everywhere" then the Reality Marble dissapears.

Shirou didn't use Kanshou an Bakuya in UBW, he copied the exact same sword that he was destroying.
May 9, 2015 12:23 PM

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The only "rushed" part was Shirou blocking the swords and the UBW shattering. That ended rather abruptly. Also, I had hoped to see a more glorious Saber under Rin's power. Other than that, episode was fine.

I was glad to see some bits related to Saber. Hopefully they'll be a few more so that her character arc (for those coming from F/Z) can get adequately resolved.

Plenty of time left for Answer and endgame.
May 9, 2015 12:24 PM

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nocorras said:
chat77 said:


Is actually confirmed that Answer would be 20 and 21


PV said Idealism's End(The Answer) for next episode.
Idealism's End could be referring to


I highly doubt they would cram
May 9, 2015 12:25 PM

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Drake1000 said:
WuBoyBR said:

Lancer master is Kotomine Kirei right ?


No Lancer's master is Reverse gender Shirou who can only save herself and not the others.

Confirmed.
May 9, 2015 12:25 PM

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GARBrotato said:
nocorras said:


PV said Idealism's End(The Answer) for next episode.
Idealism's End could be referring to


I highly doubt they would cram

Answer is in 20 and 21, apparently, so it's just the start next ep.
May 9, 2015 12:27 PM

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Guilek said:
Shirou didn't use Kanshou an Bakuya in UBW, he copied the exact same sword that he was destroying.


Exactly, K&B was Unlimited DEEN Works.
May 9, 2015 12:27 PM
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This episode was so rushed, it is sad to say this, but the action was way better in the movie, shirou looked a lot more badass there.
May 9, 2015 12:28 PM

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Was this the worst episode so far?

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Grey-Zone said:
Images:


Finally someone did it ^
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May 9, 2015 12:29 PM

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CloudStrifeFFVII said:
Was this the worst episode so far?


matches with the Caster one..imo
May 9, 2015 12:29 PM

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Scints said:
This episode was so rushed, it is sad to say this, but the action was way better in the movie, shirou looked a lot more badass there,


rofl

May 9, 2015 12:29 PM

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Grey-Zone said:
Guilek said:
Shirou didn't use Kanshou an Bakuya in UBW, he copied the exact same sword that he was destroying.


Exactly, K&B was Unlimited DEEN Works.
Dont forget Giant Ass sword.
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Was this the worst episode so far?
Depends on definition of worst.

It could be worst while still being great.But no it wasnt.
May 9, 2015 12:29 PM

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CloudStrifeFFVII said:
Was this the worst episode so far?


Pretty much yes. Its hard to believe but adaptation of one of the best scenes in whole route managed to surpass both Gatorade Master Filler as well as Archer and Caster stand and talk episodes.

cupc said:
Scints said:
This episode was so rushed, it is sad to say this, but the action was way better in the movie, shirou looked a lot more badass there,


rofl



Dat moment when Deen >>> Ufo.
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cupc said:
Scints said:
This episode was so rushed, it is sad to say this, but the action was way better in the movie, shirou looked a lot more badass there,


rofl

Unlimited Jedi Works.
May 9, 2015 12:31 PM

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Othi-tan said:
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Exactly, K&B was Unlimited DEEN Works.
Dont forget Giant Ass sword.

That was Archa's.
May 9, 2015 12:31 PM
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chat77 said:
nocorras said:


PV said Idealism's End(The Answer) for next episode.




Which is true since Atomic or whatever his name is referred to Lancer master as Kanojo
May 9, 2015 12:31 PM

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cupc said:
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This episode was so rushed, it is sad to say this, but the action was way better in the movie, shirou looked a lot more badass there,


rofl


Deen was ridiculous, suddenly better reflexes than Saber and Berserker.
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Insertanamehere said:
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Idealism's End could be referring to


I highly doubt they would cram

Answer is in 20 and 21, apparently, so it's just the start next ep.
I'm not sure about Answer getting two episodes tbh. It's actually what I want but I have a feeling that they combined VS with Answer in that 'announcement.'

I was thinking
would be next episode, ending with the beginning of VS which would be episode 20 and then Answer would be episode 21.
May 9, 2015 12:32 PM

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Well both do bring up the question of why he didn't just let Saber do it if he was going to do it by hand.

And also two thirds of the swords aren't aiming for Shirou in DEENight lol.
May 9, 2015 12:32 PM
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cupc said:
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This episode was so rushed, it is sad to say this, but the action was way better in the movie, shirou looked a lot more badass there,


rofl



This is basically what Ufo did when he was supposed to parry the rain of swords with one of his own.
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Guilek said:
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rofl


Deen was ridiculous, better reflexes than Saber and Berserker.


the way he's just standing there and swinging k&b arounds always gets me, it's comical
May 9, 2015 12:33 PM

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antonn said:
Othi-tan said:
Dont forget Giant Ass sword.

That was Archa's.
I know.Archer projecting it and Shirou blocking it was super ridiculous.
May 9, 2015 12:33 PM

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Drake1000 said:
cupc said:


rofl

[img]http://i.imgur.com/O3zMRa1.gif[/i mg]


This is basically what Ufo did when he was supposed to parry the rain of swords with one of his own.

Well I mean
He did actually move here
And the swords were actually aiming for him
May 9, 2015 12:34 PM

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Drake1000 said:
cupc said:


rofl



This is basically what Ufo did when he was supposed to parry the rain of swords with one of his own.

DeenShirou blocked like 60 swords without a scratch, it made no sense.
May 9, 2015 12:35 PM
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Insertanamehere said:
Drake1000 said:


This is basically what Ufo did when he was supposed to parry the rain of swords with one of his own.

Well I mean
He did actually move
And the swords were actually aiming for him

Also in ufo's, the swords are freezed in the air and Archer sends them part by part when he's supposed to shoot all 18 swords at once.
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Guilek said:
Drake1000 said:


This is basically what Ufo did when he was supposed to parry the rain of swords with one of his own.

DeenShirou blocked like 60 swords without a scratch, it made no sense.


random power up...dbz style
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Insertanamehere said:
Drake1000 said:


This is basically what Ufo did when he was supposed to parry the rain of swords with one of his own.

Well I mean
He did actually move here
And the swords were actually aiming for him


The volume and amount of swords feel like more feasible threat to saber than in ufofsn.

In ufo fsn:
Archer: K, lemme throw these five swords out of 17 REAL SLOW
Shirou: TEMEEEEEEEEE.
*fade to black*
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Drake1000 said:
Insertanamehere said:

Well I mean
He did actually move
And the swords were actually aiming for him

Also in ufo's, the swords are freezed in the air and Archer sends them part by part when he's supposed to shoot all 18 swords at once.
Has nothing to do with Shirou's skill.
I agree that Archer's method made no sense.But Shirou's scene actually made sense even if different from the VN.

Drake1000 said:
cupc said:


rofl



This is basically what Ufo did when he was supposed to parry the rain of swords with one of his own.
Em no.Ufo didnt make t look so easy at all and we see him analyzing ALL the swords and destroying 3-4 of them that were shot.Deen is being ridiculous, ufo shows some skill in his abilities..

What do you mean freezed in air?
May 9, 2015 12:39 PM

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antonn said:
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Dont forget Giant Ass sword.

That was Archa's.

This is funny cos DEEN actually did it better.

Ring of fire + Levitating Swords + BG, e.t.c.

The deflecting is pretty ridiculous, but what I mentioned is far better in DEENIMOVIE =I
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May 9, 2015 12:40 PM
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chat77 said:
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Rin's and Saber's contract was already very flashy in my opinion. It was bootiful. The next thing is that Archer vs Saber after the contract coudn't be extended. Saber had Rin as a master and her class in the strongest while Archer doesn't have a master. Of course she could dominate him.


I know... the dominance should have been made a bit more clearer though...thats why Archer casted ubw


The doniance wasn't clear to blind people but I don't understand what you wanted more. Archer didn't hit Saber once, Saber wrecked Archer.
May 9, 2015 12:41 PM

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mira-nyan said:
antonn said:

That was Archa's.

This is funny cos DEEN actually did it better.

Ring of fire + Levitating Swords + BG, e.t.c.

The deflecting is pretty ridiculous, but what I mentioned is far better in DEENIMOVIE =I
There was a ring of fire in ufo.
After Works is said by Archer we see the fire spreading and THEN the floor "cracks".
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Othi-tan said:
Has nothing to do with Shirou's skill.
I agree that Archer's method made no sense.But Shirou's scene actually made sense even if different from the VN.

Lol it makes sense because he's sending them 3 by 3 or something like that, if he sent all 18 swords at the same time like he does in the VN, it wouldn't.
May 9, 2015 12:41 PM

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Despite what VN readers complain, I don't think it's that bad maybe because I'm not Novel reader. Assassin still around right?
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
May 9, 2015 12:42 PM
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CloudStrifeFFVII said:
Was this the worst episode so far?


No
May 9, 2015 12:43 PM

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Zapredon said:
Despite what VN readers complain, I don't think it's that bad maybe because I'm not Novel reader.

If you look the poll, most people like the episode.
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So much crying rofl.
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