| How am I not suprised this Guilty Crown thread got 13 pages? |
RandomPerson3 said: How am I not suprised this Guilty Crown thread got 13 pages? Still not close to SAO threads. |
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RandomPerson3 said: How am I not suprised this Guilty Crown thread got 13 pages? It was dead until somebody started fanboying around. "Wow, keep your "I don't like it" to yourselves", "If you don't like it, don't watch it", etc... Then I came in when somebody uttered the words "objectively bad" when talking about art. Which is wrong. It's fun telling people they're retarded when they are. And to clarify, I mean art in general. |
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| I would have preferred a better ending and a second part different but in the end it was not so bad. |
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Immahnoob said: RandomPerson3 said: How am I not suprised this Guilty Crown thread got 13 pages? It was dead until somebody started fanboying around. "Wow, keep your "I don't like it" to yourselves", "If you don't like it, don't watch it", etc... Then I came in when somebody uttered the words "objectively bad" when talking about art. Which is wrong. It's fun telling people they're retarded when they are. And to clarify, I mean art in general. You're welcome to disagree with what I said. While I agree that anime is art, it is also a storytelling medium and a well told story is what Guilty Crown lacked. Guilty Crown certainly had the means to tell a great story but the story was told in one of the most generic ways possible and worst of all, it was inconsistent. This happened because the writers were likely making everything up as the plot progressed, in other words the story was clearly not planned out. Characters had little development and in the end we don't really know who they are, and this is unfortunate considering the idea of voids that was never really used the way it was supposed to. I think I.G knew they screwed up in story hence the rushed 2nd season but nothing can be done about that now. Very good ideas, but they were used in the most generic way possible and the makers never went beyond the surface when using them. Critically, the anime was bad but if you think it's good then that's your opinion and that's perfectly fine. |
animetoonMar 13, 2013 9:26 AM
| Critically or not, yours is still an opinion, calling it objectively bad makes you wrong in every way. |
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NFH said: kurselax said: so guilty crowns piqued my interest recently and i've been thinking about checking it out, but all i hear about the show are negative comments. Something I've learned during the years is to NEVER, ever trust the scores and reviews of the so-called "critics" and the like. In this forum sadly, the mentality is that if something is "popular" is therefore "bad" and if you don't bash and hate it you are not able to "rise" above the "hype" and thus are the "lowest common denominator". Guilty Crown is popular therefore something you must hate, at least publicly in order to show you have "taste". Also, the negative people are just a very vocal minority. If you check the score stats for this series, you'll see that the majority of MAL users loved Guilty Crown. If you want a sincere opinion on an anime, check the MAL series score stats for a honest representation of what the majority of MAL users think. Gintama three times in the Top 10, Hadashi no Gen ranked at 443, Galaxy Express 999 having a score below 8.00, etc. Please, get real. The system is broken and nearly everyone knows it. Also, popularity =/= quality. Enjoyment is purely subjective and has NOTHING to do with the quality of the writing as you can like something even if it is badly written. You should know this if you're mentally over 14. And it's certainly not that popularity = bad; it's just that most shows that cater to the lowest common denominator and pander as much as possible to the biggest groups (namely otaku and underage boys) will be popular because these people only rate on enjoyment, hype it and will most likely only watch the series they're accustomed to. This kills innovation, destroys good discussion culture (because all people who dislike a certain thing about the series are "haters") and have a negative effect on the anime fandom in general as people outside of the subculture will base their perception on this subculture on the most popular titles and their fans - which in this case really hurts the medium. Ask a Western animator with some experience in the industry and they will tell you that there is not much respect for anime because it's viewed as shallow, uncreative, etc. because of these popular titles. And before you start arguing back, my favourite manga is One Piece so stop branding me a hipster to ignore my arguments in order to push your shallow assumptions. |
NidhoeggrMar 18, 2013 7:22 PM
| Jojolion anime when? |
| Too bad that even OST's and animation can't save the bad writing - and GC had bad writing, just like Code Geass R2. Sane people would never rate Michael Bay movies 10/10, although they all have a big budget as well as an ok OST and good CGI. Why the double standard? |
| Jojolion anime when? |
| There is no such thing as good or bad writing, it's called successful or unsuccessful writing. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| You could list a ton of things good about GC, unfortunately its plot isn't one of it. |
| Personally I really enjoyed Guilty Crown. It disgusts me with how underrated it is on this site. It was one of those shows I would get excited to watch each and every week after about episode 11 or so. Yeah I'll admit that there are some plot holes, but overall the plot isn't bad. Character designs are decent and the background art and animation was incredible, not to mention the excellent soundtrack. And for one I actually really enjoyed the pacing of the show. But the thing that really made this show great was the world building. It really felt like you were being plunged into an interesting world, and the series had an excellent sense of mood, something a show like eureka seven had. It was cool that this world was constantly changing and the characters within the show had to cope with these changes, and these changes weighed on Shu more then anybody. The fact that they made Shu dislikable was a total success because it makes it all the more sweeter when he redeems himself in the end. It's a really good show, if you're looking for a sci-fi series set in an interesting world, put together with excellent polish, then you should definitely watch this. For fans of Evangelion and Eureka Seven. Id give it a 8.5/10 |
Immahnoob said: Noob, stop saying correct things.There is no such thing as good or bad writing, it's called successful or unsuccessful writing. It makes it hard for me to keep my ignorant, self-designated factual, correct, opinions! |
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Red_Keys said: Immahnoob said: Noob, stop saying correct things.There is no such thing as good or bad writing, it's called successful or unsuccessful writing. It makes it hard for me to keep my ignorant, self-designated factual, correct, opinions! I'm so sorry, Keys! Let me edit myself to be just like Nidhoeggr and other self proclaimed godlike critics!  |
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| That's not in my character. Especially when people are wrong. This basically explains what I usually do. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
fanatrick said: What? To me, this show is a masterpiece. It won me over on so many levels it's ridiculous... I'm sure you are able to explain it for us... And no, cheap fanservice and generic J-Pop combined are not "many levels". |
| Jojolion anime when? |
Nidhoeggr said: fanatrick said: What? To me, this show is a masterpiece. It won me over on so many levels it's ridiculous... generic J-Pop combined are not "many levels". |
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Nidhoeggr said: fanatrick said: What? To me, this show is a masterpiece. It won me over on so many levels it's ridiculous... I'm sure you are able to explain it for us... And no, cheap fanservice and generic J-Pop combined are not "many levels". Sometimes you just connect with a certain show and you don't exactly understand why but you really enjoy it. Guilty crown is one of those shows where if you don't connect with it all you can see is it's flaws, but if you do connect with guilty crown it becomes a truly awesome experience. |
dipz158 said: it was really good up till episode 13 then it goes too far. the protag turns from a guy all viewers like to somebody you wished died. the whole story and plot take a 180 from being a hero who cares about people to being a dick dictator. and his so called best friend with the shears is a fuck face who needs to calm the fuck down and die. the girl with the singing voice was the only decent thing about this anime and after episode 13 she only sang once or twice. thats how crap it became. what really? cuz that's when I felt the series really picked up. The fact that he became so hateable made it interesting and it made it far more powerful when he finally redeemed himself later on. The society he created was kind of like Lord of the Flies, and if you've ever read that book there's a lot of hateable characters, but that doesn't detract from the quality of the book, it's considered a classic afterall. |
| The series should've ended after right after they beat that one chick the first time. You know, the one where Shu was teamed up with Gai. I honestly thought almost every episode after this was shit. I regret watching the rest. Ugh I just didn't enjoy the second half. Anyways, the whole product is still pretty good. I still can't take the bitter taste the second half of the series gave me off my mouth. I think I rated this an 8, only because I enjoyed most of it. Anyone share what I think? |
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Rice4Asians said: Anyone share what I think? Some do, others don't. To me, the second half was where things started to get especially awesome. I just loved that tyrant part and everything that came after that. I found it to be very interesting. |
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VoidGenome said: Rice4Asians said: Anyone share what I think? Some do, others don't. To me, the second half was where things started to get especially awesome. I just loved that tyrant part and everything that came after that. I found it to be very interesting. +1, seeing Shuu as he went from "everyone accomodating (or how to call it " leader to Tyrant king, later losing everything and so ... I loved entire show, just ending sucked but well ... |
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VoidGenome said: Rice4Asians said: Anyone share what I think? Some do, others don't. To me, the second half was where things started to get especially awesome. I just loved that tyrant part and everything that came after that. I found it to be very interesting. Same, the tyrant stuff and Shu's shifting character was awesome. In such a chaotic world it would be very difficult not to crumble under the pressure. It was realistic, and most animes don't handle their characters like that, I appreciate that. |
| I went in expecting the story to be so bad...that I am actually impressed by it since I was prepared for it to be mars of destruction quality. |
DavidVauhn said: I went in expecting the story to be so bad...that I am actually impressed by it since I was prepared for it to be mars of destruction quality. MoD is a league of its own. Still, GC is not so far away from it. |
| Jojolion anime when? |
| I'm glad I actually read through this thread to see what people had to say. I heard so much random bashing on SAO when it wasn't that fucking bad (you couldn't name a more entertaining show in the last couple of seasons). Since people are honestly comparing an anime like this to Mars of Destruction, I'm going to assume that they're the same kind of hate-wagon that followed SAO around (bitching about faults that most shows have, etc.). So to the PTW Guilty Crown goes... |
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| Guilty Crown is worse than SAO .. I don't even know what happened during the 2nd half of GC's story. The plot is just ridiculous |
Hase0 said: Guilty Crown is worse than SAO .. I don't even know what happened during the 2nd half of GC's story. The plot is just ridiculous I disagree. At least Guilty Crown have character development, as forced as it is. SAO however... The characters are more flat than cardboard cut out, even the main character himself acted like a mere plot devices/self insertion fantasy template. |
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| GUILTY CROWN > SAO imo lol. |
| TOARU MAJUTSU NO INDEX > SAO/GUILTYCROWN imo O_o Now wut! MY OPINION CANT BE CHANGE! I love supernatural anime character with nega/cancel ability. |
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| Well, Guilty Crown is an anime thar you will either hate or love. That depends on what anime genre you like. For me Guilty Crown is one of the best animes I have seen. In fact it's my top 2, after Code Geass. Guilty Crown has a great story but a bit difficult to follow. In the first part of the anime the main protagonist is a coward, and that is the reason many dropped the anime. In the second part though he becomes badass and all this lack of confidence he had on the first part is gone in the second one, though there are some symptoms of lacking it in a few eps. Both music and animation are awesome and you will enjoy every song and scene in the anime. The bad thing us that tgee are a few plot holes but that won't hinder you from following the story. I rated GC with 10 cause I loved the series in general. The only thing I hated though was the ending, reason: see the anime finale and you'll understand why... |
RezefusMay 17, 2013 3:42 AM
| A Story will always come to it's end. The thing is, will you move on after it's over? |
| Guilty Crown > SAO definitely even though they're both terrible. |
TehBlindSamurai said: I don't think they it was that bad it's just that the ending kind of sucked like Hard That's what she said! |
JeffreyZin said: No because they were both highly anticipated anime that came out within a year of each other that to the community feel like a flop.Why are these people always compare Guilty Crown to Sword Art online much? Because both focused on love stories? I thought Sword Art online has nothing to do with Guilty Crown despite the fact that it was focused on Online Gaming rather than survived the post-apocalyptic horror by using Inori Yuzuhira as a Key to save the world? |
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JeffreyZin said: Maybe they see your reactions as trolling.IntroverTurtle said: No because they were both highly anticipated anime that came out within a year of each other that to the community feel like a flop. Well, that really explained to me why those shows is completely Mainstream but it didn't really lived up expectations very well (I mean I don't care IF some said it sucks but I was completely blown away that how those idiots on MAL trolled & harassed me all the time whatever I speak my mind about those shows especially my reactions in each episodes) |
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JeffreyZin said: That's the thing, just because you're not trolling doesn't mean people can not see you as trolling. And the way you say you wanted to get something off your chest, sounds like you might have ranted about what you like or dislike? That's a good way to get people against you and to think that you're trolling.IntroverTurtle said: Maybe they see your reactions as trolling. I'm not trolling or anything. It's just that I need something to get off my chest about what just happened (especially jaw dropping moments or parts that confusing viewers like me even plotholes or anything which also happened sometimes since it's been 'played' in my head). IF they disagreed with me & thought I was Immoral & stupid, fine. You're welcome. |
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| I think only ending/last episode was bad |
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