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crispylove said: This episode kind of sucked looking at it by itself. I mean...it just flew. But if it's setting up an excellent dramatic ending, then that can make an episode like this better. But wow, talk about suck for becoming emperor. Why didn't he just do that in the first place. His father abandoned him. He wanted revenge on him. |
| ALL HAIL LULU! ALL HAIL LULU! ALL HAIL LULU! ALL HAIL LULU! Looks like Charles & Marianne were bitches and got whats coming. So is Lelou still going to kill C.C. as part of the contract? @dtshyk: I think he meant that when Nunnaly was found before she became governor general. Nunally aint coming back =( *sob |
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| I dunno about this one. I liked the first half of the episode, but once Lelouch talks to Jupiter it just gets a little too flaky for me to really enjoy. Then you have a month in time down the drain in which nothing has seemingly changed, except that Lelouch seems to have taken the Emperor's chair just to act exactly like the last emperor did. Pretty lame, and I am afraid of where this might be headed... |
| That episode was like combination of Death Note and Evangelion. Very entertaining. Now logically Lelouch would turn into power hungry emperor and eventually suffer a sorry death. ^^ Lets hope that doesnt happen. |
| Code Geass doesn't make sense anymore... it's a little irritating. And fast. Also, Lulu geassin' God <- WTF. All Hail Lulu? D: Needs Sayoko. u_u |
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Whitewolf5 said: Boony said: So, uh... am I the only one who laughed hysterically when V.V. pulled out a machine gun? :V Uhm.. Well I didn't laugh.. And I'd find it weird if I laugh there.. No offense.. Gotta side with Boony on this one. Little midget V.V. whips out a machine gun about half as big as himself and starts spraying bullets in his goofy little stance. I wouldn't say I laughed hysterically so much as thought it looked a little lame. No offense intended here either. Maybe I'm in the middle of both of your guys' positions. |
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| Haha Lulu is like Kira and Schneizel is L. Lulu has become what he was fighting agenst... is he going to stop the hole other countrys have no rights stuff or will he get killed before he has a chance to change the world? I think he will have to kill C.C. so the geass is gone forever and then he will be imortal.(One reason he should kill C.C. to stay alive) But still not having C.C. around is a shame. oh well there are only 4 more episodes to go anyway unless they make a movie witch they might. |
crystalangel23Sep 1, 2008 10:16 AM
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| I highly doubt it'll be a Death Note ending. Lelouch got his revenge, Light never obtained the goal of being a "god". I'm thinking Lelouch has a plan up his sleeve though. I had a headache after this episode. So much happened so fast. I have to agree though with posts earlier. What did happen in the month? Was everyone just idle and let everything go by? Also, how did Lelouch, Suzaku and C.C. escape that realm? |
People are strange, when you're a stranger |
And what does Schneizel plan to do with giving Lelouch Britiannia? He didn't give it to him. I doubt he even knew what Lelouch was gonna do. He just gave Lelouch the privilage of making the first move. That way, Schneizel pulled him out of the shadows. And my impression of Schneizel is this: he can crsh whomever he knows but he is not as mighty when someone unknown is involved. |
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aero said: 8GaugeBrett said: Exactly my thoughts. This is too BS. It's like the writers went, "Oh crap! We have 15 episodes worth of material and only 5 episodes left in the series. Oh well, who cares if we push 50 million plot developments in the final episodes and turn Charles and Marianne into nothing more than paper thin plot devices to put Lulu on the throne. Just make sure every episode has at least one Pizza Hut endorsement on the screen so we can earn that money!" that is why this episode fails. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| stop saying such bullshit guys, this ep ownz idiots |
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| I have noticed that the quality of animation has improved. I am convinced that episode 20 was just an exception and not a predictor the quality of future episodes to come. I enjoyed how the series mercilessly reduced the importance of the emperor while at the same time using his character as plot device. While he was entertaining as a evil ruler of the world; his instantaneous removal seemed fitting to his personality and served a purpose to move along the plot. All men are not created equal -- what ironic words. I also liked the final verbal showdown between Charles and Lelouch about truth and using lies. It was horribly cliched and the dialogue was laughable at times, but the series managed to pull it off with its brilliant execution, which only furthered my desire to watch how this well-crafted train wreck will turn out. The scene also managed to give enough final closure to the Charles character as well. From the surface, it looks like Lelouch has improved his chances of surviving until the end of the series. However, I have a feeling that this is just false assurance. In my opinion, Lelouch will likely be dead at the end of the series. He will killed in a fashion most fitting for the atmosphere of this show; he will die as martyr. By whose hands? My guesses would be either the currently neglected CC or the crafty Schneizel. Schneizel's all according to plan moments are starting to get repetitive. However, his possible involvement with Diethard may prove to be interesting. Thank God that whole arc involving Ragnarok and the weapon is over. I personally found most of the story that took place is this arc to be ridiculous. However to a certain degree ridiculousness is seems to be one of the one of the key ingredients that keeps the series fresh and unpredictable, ironic as it may be. But for the love of God, if Nunally comes back from the dead and starts twin geassing people; that would just be too much. |
| All I wanted when I watch Code Geass is for it to have a different ending than Death Note, ever since episode 1. What a great turn of events this turn out to be. Yet it's still to early to judge. I just hope it will. |
| I guess R2 ends at 24... Will there be an R3? |
| I loved this episode; even though throughout the series I kept disliking Lulu's ideas, now he's finally making sense. And somehow, Lulu and Suzaku's allegiance seemed really natural to me, seeing as they couldn't fight each other anymore at this point. ALL HAIL LELOUCH was awesome. The whole 'Knight of Zero' idea was awesome. What I didn't like though was how fast Lulu went past the truth about his mother. For 45 eps he's been trying to find out the true reason behind her death, then suddenly he sees she's evil and kills her. I know it had to be a pretty quick move, but it still passed too suddenly to be 'believable'. |
olliff said: I have noticed that the quality of animation has improved. I am convinced that episode 20 was just an exception and not a predictor the quality of future episodes to come. I enjoyed how the series mercilessly reduced the importance of the emperor while at the same time using his character as plot device. While he was entertaining as a evil ruler of the world; his instantaneous removal seemed fitting to his personality and served a purpose to move along the plot. All men are not created equal -- what ironic words. I also liked the final verbal showdown between Charles and Lelouch about truth and using lies. It was horribly cliched and the dialogue was laughable at times, but the series managed to pull it off with its brilliant execution, which only furthered my desire to watch how this well-crafted train wreck will turn out. The scene also managed to give enough final closure to the Charles character as well. From the surface, it looks like Lelouch has improved his chances of surviving until the end of the series. However, I have a feeling that this is just false assurance. In my opinion, Lelouch will likely be dead at the end of the series. He will killed in a fashion most fitting for the atmosphere of this show; he will die as martyr. By whose hands? My guesses would be either the currently neglected CC or the crafty Schneizel. Schneizel's all according to plan moments are starting to get repetitive. However, his possible involvement with Diethard may prove to be interesting. Thank God that whole arc involving Ragnarok and the weapon is over. I personally found most of the story that took place is this arc to be ridiculous. However to a certain degree ridiculousness is seems to be one of the one of the key ingredients that keeps the series fresh and unpredictable, ironic as it may be. But for the love of God, if Nunally comes back from the dead and starts twin geassing people; that would just be too much. Eh...I don't really see why C.C. would kill Lelouch at all, considering he's the only person right now who could grant her wish. I also don't see her as being neglected at all. While many people say her face at the end of the episode is that of "anger", I see it more as more of a neutral or emotionless face, or a thoughtful one. We don't know what happened in the month. For Lelouch to be this confident about his position, a lot of preparation must have been made. C.C., I'm sure, also has her part to play. I've never seen C.C. once neglected this season. ~Alexius |
| Oh wow.. this episode was just too much. It was kinda epic though. Schneizel giving it all away to lelouch sounds interesting. I wonder what he has up his sleeve. |
SNDK said: Oh wow.. this episode was just too much. It was kinda epic though. Schneizel giving it all away to lelouch sounds interesting. I wonder what he has up his sleeve. He's probably planning something big. Code Geass always have an end that leaves us thinking and eager to watch the next episode. |
| This made no sense at all. I was thinking WTF the whole episode. If CC was not interested in the new world why would she enter the Ragnarok at all? WTF is a Sword of Ashash or whatever and why would it kill the gods? Who are the gods anyway? Now Marianne has a geass too and was killed by VV because he was jealous of her relationship with Charles? Also they mentioned that Schneizel worked with the black knights to help put down some rebellion but I don't remember that happening. Is it me or is that 'To get rid of evil let's make humanity one' has been done before. I really wish they would ditch the Evangelion themes. I really liked S1 much better, back then you only had Guren vs Lancelot and a couple of people with Geass. This last episode is just complex for the sake of complexity. |
| So it finally happened, I really hoped/partially knew lulu would become emperor. Great Ep. |
| ~de Arimasu |
| Great comebacks yo. I salute you. |
| WOW great episode masterful |
| I don't know about you guys, but my respect for Suzaku went up a lot. |
 i need your love, i'm a broken rose. |
DawgX15 said: DonKangolJones said: Alexius said: Episode 21 in a nutshell: Enter Lulu, Emprr, & Rgnrk Lulu: Hurhurhur. Emprr: [Not Amused Look] Lulu: *Takes cup of tea out of coat.* Would you like a spot of tea? No? Well, anyway. Let's talk. Why do you hate me? Emprr: I DNT RLY H8 U. I JUS LUV MYSELF. KTHX. Lulu: Wait... what? Emprr: YA. ALRITE. LETS RULE TEH GLXY TOGETHR AS FTHR & SON... & MOTHER. Lulu: ...Huh? C.C. (Off-Stage): [HAX Just Recently Impenetrable Rgnrk] Enter Mrinne. Mrinne: [Giggle] HAI2U LELOUCH. Lulu: ...WTF? Emprr: YA, SRSLY. V.V. 'KILLED' MRINNE. NT ME. [Gestures for hug.] Lulu: ... >.< Emprr: NOW I USE DTHSTAR RGNRK TO MAKE PRFCT WORLD. KTHX. Lulu: UR DOIN IT WRONG. Emprr: O RLY? Enter C.C. & Spinzaku Spinzaku: YA RLY. Lulu: [Clever hand gestures to remove Geass-hiding Contact Lens] Emprr: Hurhurhur. GTFO MY JUPITR LELOUCH. WAT U GOIN 2 GEASS? NO1 U CAN GEASS HERE. HURHURHUR. KTHX. Lulu: O rly? I'm going to Geass the 'collective unconciousness'! Rgnrk: Fo' show. Emprr & Mrinne: O NOS. C.C.: lol. Spinzaku: [SPIN] Oh, yeah, and Lelouch becomes emperor. Not too sure I'm happy with this episode. It definitely seems things are getting rushed towards the end of the series, and Schneizel as last boss definitely seems very weird for a conclusion to the Code Geass lore. [Shrug] Funniest sh*t I've read all day! Second that AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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dtshyk said: If the name "Zero" was a long-term foreshadowing for the "Knight of Zero", I have to give the greatest possible praise to the director Taniguchi. Dunno if anyone's mentioned it, but R2 actually is not what Taniguchi wanted it to be, so I doubt that the name Zero was some sort of foreshadowing. I don't know if I really like this huge twist, it's just too much now imo :/ |
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| EPIC.... EPIC EPISODE. IT WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY. |
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Xelzeno said: One word can describe this episode to me "WUT!?" still, loved it! exactly. this episode was hard to follow. |
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| All Hail Lelouch!!!!!, Lelouch with Two Geass was awesome |
| "Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. And some will lose more than the tips off their fingers, I promise you. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that" |
| most lulwut episode of twist geass i have seen as of yet. lol @ marianne trying to draw stuff on suzaku's face lol @ the library of C lelouch seeing marianne there must have been really mindfucking. so, bui tsu was the actual killer... expected 7 episodes ago, unexpected now. marianne's geass revealed. lelouch protecting humanity, what a noble man Marianne being a bad guy, Sunrise fucked our minds... thats it double eyed-geass lelouch = badass? lol @ marianne calling lelouch a naughty child flying charles was lul i guess that is why shitneizel fears lelouch, he can make people disappear. ONE MONTH TIMESKIP< LULWUT, NUT AGAIN all hail new school boy emperor rurushuu vi buritannia, abuser of geass! lulwut, they found nunally,.... WAT, DOES THAT MEAN MORE SAYOKO??? =D Milly, Rivalz, Gino, kallen, and mostly the black knights and xing ke must have been really confused at seeing lelouch go in the throne... wow OHSHI, suzaku protected lelouch, and he seemed to be smiling. knight of zero.. nice one lelouch now lulu has to remove two contact lenses every time he is going to use geass, won't that be like.. uhh.. a bitch? YSOSRS CC? she is depressed D= lul at shitneizel and diethard there... just what is he planning. and lol at switch of sides... whoever saw that coming... also, next episode, it seems like lelouch finally talks to kallen again in his.. umm... white palace.... but yay, lelouch x kallen reunion loved how charles plan resembled the humanity instrumentality project... lol eva EDIT: lol at 15 pages of discussion |
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| Haahahahaha, Yikes, talk about making things unnecessarily complex and turning everything upside down, it gave me a headache trying to comprehend everything! I wouldn’t say that Marianne and Charles are evil so much as misguided and a bit selfish, I never even considered Charles to be as evil was he appeared. Things seeemd slightly rushed though. I also thought that this could have been the ending to R2, and a third season to be approached. Hmmm, but I guess that is not the case, we still have alot to go. Still, as much as I love Code Geass...I was sadly dissapointed, it bothers me that this episode is like all the backstory and explanation we’re ever going to get despite much of the series building to this point. And *poof*, just like that, it’s over and Lelouch is now Emperor! Personally, I also actually love Suzaku too. So seeing him defend Lelouch gave me butterflies, since I like that pair (non yaoi relationship,). By the way, I like Alexius's version of this episode, haha! |
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| Now thats a "TWIST!", and Lelouch as the Emperor wow man. Now that Lelouch know the other details he can now focus on the world. And take revenge on the black Knights for betraying him that would be nice no.? |
| I see A death Note's end... C.C. killing Lelouch |
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ninjakittenx said: Haahahahaha, Yikes, talk about making things unnecessarily complex and turning everything upside down, it gave me a headache trying to comprehend everything! I wouldn’t say that Marianne and Charles are evil so much as misguided and a bit selfish, I never even considered Charles to be as evil was he appeared. Things seeemd slightly rushed though. I also thought that this could have been the ending to R2, and a third season to be approached. Hmmm, but I guess that is not the case, we still have alot to go. Still, as much as I love Code Geass...I was sadly dissapointed, it bothers me that this episode is like all the backstory and explanation we’re ever going to get despite much of the series building to this point. And *poof*, just like that, it’s over and Lelouch is now Emperor! Personally, I also actually love Suzaku too. So seeing him defend Lelouch gave me butterflies, since I like that pair (non yaoi relationship,). By the way, I like Alexius's version of this episode, haha! Are you the blogger from Random Curiosity? xD Or did the blog for this episode really influence your opinion? It sure did mine. xD I couldn't have said it any better! The series feels like a mess now. But yet I still..like it enough to finish it. xD |
| MAN I loved the KNIGHT OF ZERO part. thats so sick. |
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| I'm finding the people who say this wasn't what Tamiguchi planned laughable. If you even pay half attention to the first ten episodes, they foreshadow all of this. The Emperor speaks to Clovis in like ep. 3 (they mention speaking to the dead in this ep.), the emperor mentions the Ragnarok Connection in ep.1, and early interviews mention how Geass is related to humanity. This was how he planned it, just he didnt plan the restart due to the time slot. They got detoured but seem on track with last eps. Seriously just watch the first five episodes and alot of this is foreshadowed. They didn't magically pull this out of their ass(well they did but over a year ago). |
 "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees." By Emiliano Zapata |
| Just have to say it... ALL HAIL LELOUCH!! and Knight of Zero <3 Pure awesomeness. As for all the complains about it being similar to EVA... It's been similar to alot of other shows be4, for example the whole first season i thought "this is a combination of Death Note and Gundam SEED, with humor" but just sat back and enjoyed the ride. Also I do not find this episode hard to understand or reactions to be unrealistic.. Lelouch have been through alot so far and is committed to make full use of geass to acomplish his goal, he acted just the way I'd expect him to. If you don't think so I dunno what anime you've been watching the last 45 episodes, cuz all his actions so far feels completely in character. Atleast for me it does. And lastly about the dreaded ending of the series, I do not see a DN like ending at all. I think the producers will go out with a bang, and give us an ending fitting for one of the best anime ever, so i have no worries about it at all. Though I do think Lelouch will probably die, and I got a feeling that Kallen will be somehow involved, one way or another. [EDIT] Please could any of you complaining about their reactions give a good example of a "realistic" reaction for Lelouch that also fits his character when he finds out his mother is alive. (If you couldn't tell, this issue is really nagging me cuz I find his reaction to be the most logical one) |
JusticarSep 1, 2008 8:55 PM
| Well while I love the series for its action, animation, and characters, I just found this last episode rather unsatisfying. I guess I am just not a fan of the supernatural aspects of the story. Now I am just interested in what they are going to do in the next 4 eps. |
Hellmonkey said: <div style="text-align: center;"><img src="http://myanimelist.net/images/maintenance.png"></div> Hard to follow, and the series has got an eva complex goin on. And what kind of idea was building a latter to Jupiter that is made of thoughts? Whack... ...still...Loved it!! X) |
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| xD SO going to have to watch that episode over again in a minute to get the other half of the stuff I missed in the first watchthrough. That aside... Lelouch looked PSYCHOTIC in the end!! XDDDDD Lelouch: WORSHIP ME NOW, YOU PEONS!!! Whole world: ALL HAIL LELOUCH!!! Lelouch: lul Schneizel: :/ You sank my battleship. ... *unearths almighty Geass of doom* Fuahahaha I win. .. o_O I keep wondering what geass that other guy has, the one with his eye clamped shut. Cuz you know it's gonna be something epic. |
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| So many questions answered; loved this episode. |
| It was going well for me until the mass-geass at the end. Well, it's not a total loss I guess, Suzaku becoming the Knight of Zero will probably satisfy some fangirls' fantasies. . . |
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