Kami no Tou Episode 3 Discussion

1Kyo said:

He's not even using that "strong weapon". It's pretty evident that Bam is 100% useless in combat.

YururuY said:

also who the hell is Trex?

1Kyo said:

Then tell me in a couple of episodes again how sure you are

1Kyo said:

The word "prediction" on a Tower of God thread has lead many haters to their demise

badabass said:
My expectation got too high on this show. MC got pretty strong weapon at the first start really irked me. And the reason by a cute face, somehow make me laughed. Is that all? Luck come fast to MC more than enough to save the day. Then, get unbeaten image having a crocodile monster and wasted prince as a team members get one word for me: classic. Well, my only enjoyment got tight to see more side character ability and power like Anaak, or even Hansz, and else. Lets see how well next episodes test of crown game ended typical cliche some MC bring every fucking time to the show. I hate it, so i hope this show changed my mind. Lets see how the Tower of God bring me joy.

Not mentioning any backstory too. Its unnecessary for me, and its too fast to judge character development for that excuse. I may come to clear my mind by pointing out some backstory, but for now, i won't. So my only hope for bringing more epic battle, can i?

Jfs_ said:
They can advance to the next floor (the 3rd floor) if they won this game, not the top of the tower, The tower has 134 floors.

AivanK said:


Ohhh! Thanks for clearing that, i really thought that they would go to the last floor.
So what if they didn't go to the bonus challenge? They still would go to the 3rd floor after a new challenge or no?

LaughableMaster said:
Well! I've reached the nominal 'watch 3 episode's rule.' And I'm starting to like this series bundled with twists and mind games. Looking forward to it's weekly episodes.
:)

Ryuseishun said:
Watching the growing rift in this series’ forum threads has been perplexing to me for a number of reasons, and one of them is having to put up with seeing the vigorous defense for the adaptation, which I personally felt has been subpar by itself as its own work of art, in all honesty. While I know the manga is probably really really good (despite not being very far into it myself), I don’t like judging a series based on ties or infidelity and try to avoid such whenever possible unless I have an especially strong love or hate for the source material. I understand it being just a prologue, but other adaptations of series like Berserk or Vinland Saga turn out really good as their own thing, not just something solely relying on the success of the source material.

Say if an adapted series of a prologue segment of a manga or LN series I really enjoyed or loved turns out rather run-of-the-mill or subpar, I will more likely than not judge it as such. Simple as that. Likewise, if an adapted prologue of a manga/LN series I disliked turns out amazing to me, I will rate that in the same way.

No lies, I don’t want this internal war to end up making me hate the adaptation outright. Not just in forums like this, but on any other social media platform I regularly access.

Ryuseishun said:


I can't really call it much a War but there a lot of hype, I can understand why people don't understand the hype. Season one is the worst part of Tower of God but it is also super important. That by no means makes it bad it just how it is.

1Kyo said:

Then tell me in a couple of episodes again how sure you are

Espio74 said:
I need to know the background music when the characters talk to each other (its epic). Also overall the episode was good but I thought the challenge in the beginning was pretty pointless.

KANLen09 said:
Khun definitely is astounding of his illterate past abiout his family (being the abandoned son, and more specially for the princess) and Rak is glittering from his cartoony status. But Bam is still on this journey for Rachel, his one and only in his life.

Going into Yu Hansung's test, the correct door is as demeaning as his family's past for Khun, but Rak despite his intense excruciating process, paved the way through.

Leroro's proposition of the Crown Game being an all-kill method to reach the Tower was a good opportunity without any disadvantages...but the other untested team brings a lot of uncertainty. Regardless, Shibusu's team of Anaak and Katz tested the waters 1st, and Anaak in a solo battle claims victory.

But in the distance...Rachel??? Bam's weapon reacts heavily to it...what gives??

BLOODRipper said:

I think Black March reacted to Anak's weapon, being the same kind(symbol).

Whayle said:
Oh yeah the correct answer was to go full retard.
Lame as usual
If only Shibizu could replace the MC

BLOODRipper said:

Your standards are too high(average rating). I guess you watched too many detective conan that you managed to figure out the correct answer while others couldn't. Good job. Ohh, I wish Shibisu was the mc. But you can't always win with brains though(power fantasy), just saying. I hate to admit it, but Bam is too naive and doesn't suit as a mc. Well, what can I say it is as it is, can't change the mc now. Need to wait for season 2 I guess.

Whayle said:


No I'm actually criticzing the whole trial. The solution of it was just fucking dumb, hey you needed to go full retard to pass because in real life you will have to act fast. Okay but what if in real life there's a fucking monster behind a door about to eat you ?
And even with that really stupid solution to push any door randomly, they could have made the whole execution less dumb and lame. Like them deciding to choose a random door at the very last second because they couldn't deduce shit. But that would collapse the whole 5 minutes theory that they've established, so they prefered using the stupid dummy solution.

It felt like that trial was similar to one of the early exam of HxH where they have to guess a question and the answer is silence. It's the kind of stupid subjective answers that don't actually test anything of value but they're going to make up some ridiculous justification like "You can't really choose in real life". There's no concrete response and yet they're trying to make you think that there is a right answer otherwise you fail, that's what's lame about these kind of trials. That HxH episode could've had the same justification as this and the answer would've been "You needed to choose in the first 30s because in real life you won't have time to choose". Completely subjective.

GhostRO123 said:



Except that the answer isn't really subjective.


Even without the hints from that "fluorescent plastic bag" or the screams, all of them would still be able to deduce the answer. Hansung Yu clearly stated that they need to open the correct door in the time span of 10 minutes. He also added that he has already given all the hints necessary to pass this test.


Because there is a time limit involved implies time is important/plays a great role in this test, so any object related to time in some way, shape or form would be useful in this situation. This also means that the clock in that room must have a purpose in guiding the participants towards the answer.


That clock has 10 digits instead of 12, coincidentally the same number as the time limit of the whole test so this could mean that the clock is actually the time limit (this idea is also reinforced by the fact that it started at the same time that the test began, the hand of the clock did not move prior to the arrival of the contestants). Moreover, if you pay close attention when the time on Khun's pocket goes beyond the 1-minute mark the hand of the clock points towards 2. Later in the episode when the timer on the pocket gets close to the 2-minute mark the hand of the clock points towards 4. So from these, we can see that the ratio is 1-minute for every 2 digits on the clock or 5 minutes for every 10 digits.


From all these things I believe we can conclude that since the pocket, unlike that clock, measures time correctly and the clock which is the time limit of the test, in reality, takes about 5-minutes to go a full circle according to the participant's pocket the actual time limit must be 5 minutes or more precisely: "Choose the correct door within 5 minutes" and since there is no other clue(cause again, Hansung has stated that he had given all the necessary clues) they'll just have to choose a random door and it would still be the correct one provided that they wouldn't have taken more than 5 minutes to pick one.


So actually it tests the intelligence of the Regulars/participants. Does Rak opening a random door coincidentally at the right time undermines the severity of the situation? Of course not, he is just a retard who risked his teammates' lives on a whim. They would've instantly died should they have guessed it wrong or chosen a door at the wrong time.

BLOODRipper said:

Not just intelligence but also trust. Like Khun didn't trust plastic bag, but Shibisu trusted plastic bags hints. Well I already explained all the hints in page 10 of this thread. I guess he missed it. And don't call Rak retard, lol. He's a crocodile who doesn't think much and act upon his instinct most of the time. It's his personality not to think too much.

GhostRO123 said:


Yeah you're right, that too. And maybe its too much to call Rak a retard, but you can't deny that was a pretty stupid move, even for someone like him who relies most if not all the time on his instinct.

GhostRO123 said:



Except that the answer isn't really subjective.


Even without the hints from that "fluorescent plastic bag" or the screams, all of them would still be able to deduce the answer. Hansung Yu clearly stated that they need to open the correct door in the time span of 10 minutes. He also added that he has already given all the hints necessary to pass this test.


Because there is a time limit involved implies time is important/plays a great role in this test, so any object related to time in some way, shape or form would be useful in this situation. This also means that the clock in that room must have a purpose in guiding the participants towards the answer.


That clock has 10 digits instead of 12, coincidentally the same number as the time limit of the whole test so this could mean that the clock is actually the time limit (this idea is also reinforced by the fact that it started at the same time that the test began, the hand of the clock did not move prior to the arrival of the contestants). Moreover, if you pay close attention when the time on Khun's pocket goes beyond the 1-minute mark the hand of the clock points towards 2. Later in the episode when the timer on the pocket gets close to the 2-minute mark the hand of the clock points towards 4. So from these, we can see that the ratio is 1-minute for every 2 digits on the clock or 5 minutes for every 10 digits.


From all these things I believe we can conclude that since the pocket, unlike that clock, measures time correctly and the clock which is the time limit of the test, in reality, takes about 5-minutes to go a full circle according to the participant's pocket the actual time limit must be 5 minutes or more precisely: "Choose the correct door within 5 minutes" and since there is no other clue(cause again, Hansung has stated that he had given all the necessary clues) they'll just have to choose a random door and it would still be the correct one provided that they wouldn't have taken more than 5 minutes to pick one.


So actually it tests the intelligence of the Regulars/participants. Does Rak opening a random door coincidentally at the right time undermines the severity of the situation? Of course not, he is just a retard who risked his teammates' lives on a whim. They would've instantly died should they have guessed it wrong or chosen a door at the wrong time.

Whayle said:


In that case, it still remains stupid. Instead of making them deduce logically these steps as you've just done, not only did they choose for the main group to succeed in the dumbest way possible, they also tried to justify it by saying that what Rak did was necessary and will help in real life situations and being all preachy to Khun about it while Rak was just being a complete retard.

BLOODRipper said:

Are you saying to make main characters never fail miserably in any test like opm? They needed to address to Khun's insecurities to further develop his character, also Rak's character. What would you have done in that situation? By the way when you answer an MCQ question, you don't know the answer of it. You would fail if you don't take the chance, have you the guts to do it? Think logically, when you can't find the right answer, you need to depend on your instinct some times(and rak in a crocodile, lol). And you are saying it's unrealistic, lol, asking your friend/trusting your friend is unrealistic. You are a perfect copy of khun, like khun did in that situation. You also need true friends to rely on, it's not related to the test but an advice from Hansung to khun. You may have misunderstood the meaning behind it. Don't quote me, I'm not explaining further.

TeamDalaiLana said:
I don’t remember them showing Rachel this early in the WEBTOON. Wtf totally ruined the surprise.

Whayle said:


I'm gonna quote you to answer not because I need any explanation.
So your first question was literally a strawman. This is their first real team test so the word never has no place to be here. Secondly, I have no issue with Khun's insecurities, on the contrary it would've been more interesting if he had just battled it out in order to figure out the solution (since he's the only one with a brain on the team apparently).
We barely had Khun make a beginning of reasoning before he started getting his insecurities, so it's not like he was really struggling that hard to find the answer.
As I said in that situation, given that I'd first deduce that we only really have 5 minutes to open a door, I'd ask my team to help me think of any logical solution to choose a door, and if we don't find one then just open one at random at the very last second because it can only be the possible (yet dumb) answer.
You're talking about relying on true friends as if it were the case for them. They know each other for 30 minutes, Rak just went full retard on his own volition without giving a fuck if there was a trap behind the door or what the others would think. It's not even about trust at this point, he was just being selfish and could've impeded the whole team. It's not even about his instinct since any door would've been correct anyway.

If they really wanted to pull out the trust card, then they could've had Bam tell Khun to maybe trust the other dude's words and that maybe the answer is that any door is correct given the general deduction available for them, while Khun doesn't want to agree but has no choice but to believe Bam due to the time constriction. Which would also have made Bam more interesting by the way.

KingWeeb said:
The fighting animation was lame asf.

Rayzer_p said:
OK I am still waiting for the banger episode. I still hope a more experienced staff made this.