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Dec 13, 2016 12:29 PM

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@lady_freyja I wouldn't necessarily say either of us are lucky in this case (on second thought, maybe you are lucky), there are many complaints many people have against your run of the mill fujoshi. Similar experiences to mine, from what I've heard. But it's probably, like you say, because you don't care as much or don't follow the popular trends; hypocrisy and double standards also stick out to me like a sore thumb and I bite my tongue (or just back out online) to keep from starting pointless arguments with illogical people lol.

Anyway, you may like homo relationships. but you like Yuri and seem to have some sense and decency and probably don't say crude, creepy, disrespectful things, so... I wouldn't label you as a fujoshi :P
Dec 13, 2016 12:56 PM

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Chikaji said:
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Did you read what I said after that?

How someone can be Tolerant but at the same time not Accept the action?

did i take the time to read your attempt to try to justify your "not homophobia" after you explicitly stated that you, theoretically, think two guys going at it is "utterly disgusting?" yes, i did, and it was one of the most bs things ive read in my entire life.

you might wanna look up the definition of the word tolerant while youre at it.

one more thing while im nice and pissed from a wonderful day at school:
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let me be Politically Incorrect....Homosexuality is not normal, that is the simple truth.

apart from that sentence being one of the most used "facts" by blatant homophobes, over 1500 species of animals demonstrate gay behavior. but only 1 species contributes to homophobia. i wonder which one that is??

so yeah, look me in the eye and tell me sticking your dick into a fleshlight in a hopeless attempt to relieve yourself from the mental anguish of living in your mother's basement is more "normal" than two people of the same gender in a respectful, loving, healthy relationship.

Ok, first of all...I was in fact using a theoretical scenario.

Secondly...do I really need to give you the definition of "normal"?

I mean technically left-handed people are also not normal...

I think I read somewhere that Left-handed people are only about 10-15% of the entire human population...

So, yeah...not normal.

Now, the gay population is only 5 -10% of all humans.

Im not a homophobe...I don't care at all what gay people do in the privacy of their homes.

I fully SUPPORT gays getting married and adopting children if they are deemed to be fit parents.

What part of me is "homophobic"?

Because I said I don't like the ACT of homosexuality?

Because I said something politically incorrect?


BTW...the fact that you have to resort to direct insults clearly show me you are too invested in this.

The only thing I did is put forward my opinion...obviously, you don't like my opinion and that's fine.

You can attack my opinions all you want, but typically in a discussion you shouldn't attack the messenger just because you don't like the message.
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Dec 13, 2016 7:17 PM

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drgy55 said:
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How so?

There is a tons of yuri fans who panic when they see a guy in a yuri manga. That's why most yuri are actually with an all-girls casting… I think that was you who were bothered by that trope no?

If I remember well, there was even a boycott call for Prince Prince which is a love-triangle between two girls and one boy (a cross-dresser to boot), because hell, there is boy in it!

I don't see how it's any different from your average fujoshi who don't like seeing a girl in her yaoi.


Well, tbh I get heated when thinking about fujoshis, but I'll try to talk about this in a civil manner since you're not involved in my personal experiences lol.

Yes, it is true that if a big yuri fan sees a guy in a yuri she can freak out and vice versa. I was actually the one who WANTED a main male character in the show who is ignored by the girl in favor of another girl. I dislike all-girl casts, if you remember that's one of the tropes I pointed out in my thread that I find cheesy and unrealistic. Regardless, I don't really hate that opinion too much, I mean I think it's weird since I personally don't care, but I get it. Yaoi fans want guys, Yuri fans want girls, alright.

Now, what I'm talking about is general rudeness and lack of respect. I have many examples. They comment on Yuri specific videos and threads talking about how much they love Yaoi, or "This would be so much better if the lead singer was Light Yagami <3". They often hate on female characters regardless of genre (a couple fujoshis admitted to me they would love Mikasa Ackerman if she was a guy, for example, and say she is super annoying and a terrible character). They find the most absurd ships in the most obscure places and latch onto that, ignoring the rest of the show. I don't know dude, maybe you haven't had any negative experiences with them, but I've had enough to go from literally not caring at all about the fanbase to loathing them, so that should say something. Conversely, I've never heard anyone complain about a Yuri fan getting in their face, or being obnoxious in places other than Yuri-specific forums, or hating on male characters in a Shoujo, etc.


if i may interject, this thread is kinda proof of this. by that i mean there are fujoshi calling people insecure and homophobic for not watching a genre that is not even targeted at men (including gay men. that's what bara is for)

That's also why it's not unfrequent to see yuri fan-service in non-yuri shōjo/josei manga, like here extremely in your face or simply seeing girls blushing on each others. (I like that double page: 1, 2


but bl happens in anime targeted at guys too. although probably not as common


even keijo has some


i was going to add the kissing scene in naruto, but that doesn't really count as bl.
Dec 13, 2016 7:18 PM
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Chikaji said:
JustALEX said:

Did you read what I said after that?

How someone can be Tolerant but at the same time not Accept the action?

did i take the time to read your attempt to try to justify your "not homophobia" after you explicitly stated that you, theoretically, think two guys going at it is "utterly disgusting?" yes, i did, and it was one of the most bs things ive read in my entire life.

you might wanna look up the definition of the word tolerant while youre at it.

one more thing while im nice and pissed from a wonderful day at school:
JustALEX said:
let me be Politically Incorrect....Homosexuality is not normal, that is the simple truth.

apart from that sentence being one of the most used "facts" by blatant homophobes, over 1500 species of animals demonstrate gay behavior. but only 1 species contributes to homophobia. i wonder which one that is??

so yeah, look me in the eye and tell me sticking your dick into a fleshlight in a hopeless attempt to relieve yourself from the mental anguish of living in your mother's basement is more "normal" than two people of the same gender in a respectful, loving, healthy relationship.


Where did Alex say he hated homosexuality?

>me, a known heterophobe,

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Dec 13, 2016 7:23 PM

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scruffs said:

if i may interject, this thread is kinda proof of this. by that i mean there are fujoshi calling people insecure and homophobic for not watching a genre that is not even targeted at men (including gay men. that's what bara is for)


Yes sir, nailed it on the head, and now we're back to what I said at the end of my first post basically XD Ah, well. At the end of the day, I really don't think there's anything we can do about it anyway, just wait for them to grow up I suppose.
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someone inform my of whats exactly going on please? Just came back after few months to check for news about some good Animes i want to watch.
Dec 13, 2016 7:47 PM

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JustALEX said:

Where did Alex say he hated homosexuality?

>me, a known heterophobe,


god, when im talking to my friends about spiders, i cant help but bring up how their existence is just revolting. i wouldnt say that i "hate" them, since that would be too extreme, but i mean honestly?? how the hell is a miniature spawn from satan's asshole with 8 needles for legs considered "normal." i just dont understand; the whole basis of their being is absolutely disgusting, at least to me personally. but i definitely dont hate spiders, just as long as i never have to interact with one ever again in my entire life.

tbh, marriage is supposed to be based on equality and mutual respect and i just dont see that in het marriages, yknow? call me crazy, but i think """traditional""" marriage should be banned
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Dec 13, 2016 7:49 PM

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drgy55 said:
scruffs said:

if i may interject, this thread is kinda proof of this. by that i mean there are fujoshi calling people insecure and homophobic for not watching a genre that is not even targeted at men (including gay men. that's what bara is for)


Yes sir, nailed it on the head, and now we're back to what I said at the end of my first post basically XD Ah, well. At the end of the day, I really don't think there's anything we can do about it anyway, just wait for them to grow up I suppose.


1) love your avatar and sig

2) i see the yaoi fandom on the same level as the ecchi fandom. Eventually the "community" will call out shounen ai/yaoi for it's lack of plot and manservice, i seen it earlier in this thread.
Dec 13, 2016 7:59 PM

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JustALEX said:
Ok, first of all...I was in fact using a theoretical scenario.

Secondly...do I really need to give you the definition of "normal"?

I mean technically left-handed people are also not normal...

I think I read somewhere that Left-handed people are only about 10-15% of the entire human population...

So, yeah...not normal.

Now, the gay population is only 5 -10% of all humans.

Im not a homophobe...I don't care at all what gay people do in the privacy of their homes.

I fully SUPPORT gays getting married and adopting children if they are deemed to be fit parents.

What part of me is "homophobic"?

Because I said I don't like the ACT of homosexuality?

Because I said something politically incorrect?


BTW...the fact that you have to resort to direct insults clearly show me you are too invested in this.

The only thing I did is put forward my opinion...obviously, you don't like my opinion and that's fine.

You can attack my opinions all you want, but typically in a discussion you shouldn't attack the messenger just because you don't like the message.

youre confusing "normal" with "common."

the whole "im fully supportive of gays BUT i dont like the act" is what im trying to get at here. the thing is, being gay isnt just about me railing my future partner with a massive strap-on. its about feeling safe enough to hold hands in public, bring her over to dinner with parents, walking the dog together, so on and so forth. reducing homosexuality solely down to the sexual side of it is downgrading the entire issue, and missing the point of what it means to be sexually and romantically attracted to a person of the same gender.
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Dec 13, 2016 9:29 PM

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scruffs said:
drgy55 said:


Yes sir, nailed it on the head, and now we're back to what I said at the end of my first post basically XD Ah, well. At the end of the day, I really don't think there's anything we can do about it anyway, just wait for them to grow up I suppose.


1) love your avatar and sig

2) i see the yaoi fandom on the same level as the ecchi fandom. Eventually the "community" will call out shounen ai/yaoi for it's lack of plot and manservice, i seen it earlier in this thread.


Haha thanks mate! x) Well, at least the ecchi fandom acknowledges good male characters and (mostly) keeps the ecchi talk to the shows with ecchi and the ecchi threads... but yah, I see the comparison you're making. I think there are select few ecchi-themed and shounen ai shows with decent plots, but it's not the genres or content that I actively dislike, just the fujoshi fanbase x_x
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scruffs said:
but bl happens in anime targeted at guys too. although probably not as common

Even if the way I asked the question implied the answer, because I didn't think it was as common in male demo than in female demo. It was still a question; fundamentally I don't read much shōnen.
Thanks, those examples are interesting.
Dec 14, 2016 9:03 AM

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JustALEX said:
Chikaji said:

did i take the time to read your attempt to try to justify your "not homophobia" after you explicitly stated that you, theoretically, think two guys going at it is "utterly disgusting?" yes, i did, and it was one of the most bs things ive read in my entire life.

you might wanna look up the definition of the word tolerant while youre at it.

one more thing while im nice and pissed from a wonderful day at school:

apart from that sentence being one of the most used "facts" by blatant homophobes, over 1500 species of animals demonstrate gay behavior. but only 1 species contributes to homophobia. i wonder which one that is??

so yeah, look me in the eye and tell me sticking your dick into a fleshlight in a hopeless attempt to relieve yourself from the mental anguish of living in your mother's basement is more "normal" than two people of the same gender in a respectful, loving, healthy relationship.

Ok, first of all...I was in fact using a theoretical scenario.

Secondly...do I really need to give you the definition of "normal"?

I mean technically left-handed people are also not normal...

I think I read somewhere that Left-handed people are only about 10-15% of the entire human population...

So, yeah...not normal.

Now, the gay population is only 5 -10% of all humans.

Im not a homophobe...I don't care at all what gay people do in the privacy of their homes.

I fully SUPPORT gays getting married and adopting children if they are deemed to be fit parents.

What part of me is "homophobic"?

Because I said I don't like the ACT of homosexuality?

Because I said something politically incorrect?


BTW...the fact that you have to resort to direct insults clearly show me you are too invested in this.

The only thing I did is put forward my opinion...obviously, you don't like my opinion and that's fine.

You can attack my opinions all you want, but typically in a discussion you shouldn't attack the messenger just because you don't like the message.

Using that logic, I guess being white or being a religious minority isn't normal because it's less then the majority of the world's population.
Homosexuality is normal because it's natural just like having an illness is normal. And you are very homophobic. If you weren't, you wouldn't be saying homosexuality is abnormal or homosexuals should keep to themselves. You're using not normal as something negative.
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Dec 14, 2016 10:42 AM

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All I'm going to say about the "normal" thing is that I'm basing that on the strict definition of that word.

Normal: conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

But you know what?

IF I am wrong in the way I'm using this definition than I apologize.....I seriously do NOT mean to insult, demean, or degrade anyone, especially homosexuals.

I hate to use the "I have gay friends" card....but it's true, I have friends who are gay, we get along, even when I jokingly call him a "Fag"....again, JOKINGLY.

BTW....most of what I've been saying up until now has been scenarios and whatnot.

What are my actual feelings of homosexuality?

I honestly don't care....I'm not attracted at all to males, but I firmly (and I can't stress this enough) believe in the highest standards that ALL humans should be free to do as they wish as long as they are not infringing on anyone's rights.

I'm NOT going to see any gay or yaoi-bait or Shounen-ai or whatever you want to call it anime....because I'm not into that.

Just like some people are NOT into ecchi....and I can respect that sentiment even if I'm a huge ecchi fan.

All you need to know is that in the end....I'm on the side of LGBT people, I fully support that they should have EVERY right I have as a straight male and I would NEVER treat a gay person in a derogatory way simply for being gay.

THAT is true bigotry.

But at the same time....I'm not backing away from my position where I DO NOT nor should I be forced to say that I enjoy homosexual anime....because I simply don't....it's not for me, it doesn't attract me...

And that does NOT make me a homophobe!
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Chikaji said:
JustALEX said:

Where did Alex say he hated homosexuality?

>me, a known heterophobe,


god, when im talking to my friends about spiders, i cant help but bring up how their existence is just revolting. i wouldnt say that i "hate" them, since that would be too extreme, but i mean honestly?? how the hell is a miniature spawn from satan's asshole with 8 needles for legs considered "normal." i just dont understand; the whole basis of their being is absolutely disgusting, at least to me personally. but i definitely dont hate spiders, just as long as i never have to interact with one ever again in my entire life.

tbh, marriage is supposed to be based on equality and mutual respect and i just dont see that in het marriages, yknow? call me crazy, but i think """traditional""" marriage should be banned


>implying traditional marriage isn't based on equality and mutual respect
>implying arranged marriages are the norm in first world countries
>implying gay marriage is illegal in America when a nationwide law said it could be legal everywhere about a year ago

The delusion and persecution complex is unbelievably strong with this one.
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>implying traditional marriage isn't based on equality and mutual respect
>implying arranged marriages are the norm in first world countries
>implying gay marriage is illegal in America when a nationwide law said it could be legal everywhere about a year ago

The delusion and persecution complex is unbelievably strong with this one.

LOL
if you thought i was being serious i am honestly concerned about you
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Chikaji said:
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>implying traditional marriage isn't based on equality and mutual respect
>implying arranged marriages are the norm in first world countries
>implying gay marriage is illegal in America when a nationwide law said it could be legal everywhere about a year ago

The delusion and persecution complex is unbelievably strong with this one.

if you thought i was being serious i am honestly concerned about you


No shit, the point of my reply to you was to make you look at how ridiculous you are and perhaps it raises a point as to why people may be "homophobic" in the first place, because of how reprehensible some radicals are.
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SuperIdolNico said:
Chikaji said:

if you thought i was being serious i am honestly concerned about you


No shit, the point of my reply to you was to make you look at how ridiculous you are and perhaps it raises a point as to why people may be "homophobic" in the first place, because of how reprehensible some radicals are.

im honestly about to cry this is the funniest convo ive ever had

but rly tho, thank u for reminding about my evening plans, which consist of hitting the streets later tonight to commit some heterophobic hate crimes, like complaining about straight people here on myanimelist dot com
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Nothing wrong with homophobia, yaoi is generally unpleasant to watch

And calling people "insecure" because they don't like gays is such baseless pseudo intellectual bullshit

But of course, progressives cannot tolerate people having wrong opinions
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It will never be truly viewed as normal, because it quite simply isn't normal - at our core we are a species that reproduces by sexual intercourse between the two sexes - to reject our nature would be to reject ourselves.
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Faederwulf said:
It will never be truly viewed as normal, because it quite simply isn't normal - at our core we are a species that reproduces by sexual intercourse between the two sexes - to reject our nature would be to reject ourselves.

me, fucking my girlfriend with a massive strap on: here i am, embracing my raging homosexual nature--feels good man, feels organic
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Chikaji said:
Faederwulf said:
It will never be truly viewed as normal, because it quite simply isn't normal - at our core we are a species that reproduces by sexual intercourse between the two sexes - to reject our nature would be to reject ourselves.

me, fucking my girlfriend with a massive strap on: here i am, embracing my raging homosexual nature--feels good man, feels organic

That's fine by me, degenerates like you usually end up killing themselves anyway. Have fun knowing your womb, the base reason of your purpose, will never succeed in its intended function.
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Faederwulf said:
Chikaji said:

me, fucking my girlfriend with a massive strap on: here i am, embracing my raging homosexual nature--feels good man, feels organic

That's fine by me, degenerates like you usually end up killing themselves anyway. Have fun knowing your womb, the base reason of your purpose, will never succeed in its intended function.

aw sweetheart, if you want me dead youll have to kill me yourself :) and with that attitude toward women, the only thing ya dick'll be keeping warm with its "base reason of purpose" is your old jizz sock ;)
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Chikaji said:
Faederwulf said:

That's fine by me, degenerates like you usually end up killing themselves anyway. Have fun knowing your womb, the base reason of your purpose, will never succeed in its intended function.

aw sweetheart, if you want me dead youll have to kill me yourself :) and with that attitude toward women, the only thing ya dick'll be keeping warm with its "base reason of purpose" is your old jizz sock ;)

Really? All of the women I've met seem to enjoy being demeaned, or at the very least dominated. That said, I'm not sure what you mean by "with that attitude toward women", since a penis is also a males base reason of purpose - nature is the rule of living things, after all. Of course, I used the term "base purpose" and not "sole purpose", as higher purposes do indeed exist.
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Chikaji said:
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No shit, the point of my reply to you was to make you look at how ridiculous you are and perhaps it raises a point as to why people may be "homophobic" in the first place, because of how reprehensible some radicals are.

im honestly about to cry this is the funniest convo ive ever had

but rly tho, thank u for reminding about my evening plans, which consist of hitting the streets later tonight to commit some heterophobic hate crimes, like complaining about straight people here on myanimelist dot com


The fact that you consider this "productive" means you need to reconsider yourself.

Don't get so triggered when people offer opposing viewpoints, your purpose here is just baiting people who might not be turned on by same-sex stuff by militant satirical virtue signalling like its your job to push homosexuality and heterophobia down all our throats, and worst of all, expecting everyone to laugh with you.. no we're laughing at you because of how ridiculous you sound.

Maybe if for once you wouldn't be so provocative we'd be having actual conversation rather than putting up with your hypocrisy regarding the subject matter of the thread; the matter of it being homophobia in the anime community and you playing Argumentum ad Absurdum through perhaps a weak form of Devil's Advocate through the lowest form of wit imaginable.
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SuperIdolNico said:

The fact that you consider this "productive" means you need to reconsider yourself.

Don't get so triggered when people offer opposing viewpoints, your purpose here is just baiting people who might not be turned on by same-sex stuff by militant satirical virtue signalling like its your job to push homosexuality and heterophobia down all our throats, and worst of all, expecting everyone to laugh with you.. no we're laughing at you because of how ridiculous you sound.

Maybe if for once you wouldn't be so provocative we'd be having actual conversation rather than putting up with your hypocrisy regarding the subject matter of the thread; the matter of it being homophobia in the anime community and you playing Argumentum ad Absurdum through perhaps a weak form of Devil's Advocate through the lowest form of wit imaginable.

shit ur right theres nothing i consider more productive than arguing with people online, i know i can definitely change their point of view

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like its your job to push homosexuality and heterophobia down all our throats,

this is one of the best sentences ive ever read, thank u for making me laugh. its good to know ive made the hets feel slightly uncomfortable; i can finally rest easy at night. farewell and thank you for this wonderful conversation
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this is one of the best sentences ive ever read, thank u for making me laugh. its good to know ive made the hets feel slightly uncomfortable; i can finally rest easy at night. farewell and thank you for this wonderful conversation


Wow so rebellious and unique

Seriously though, you fags are the fakest people on the internet. Being gay is literally nothing but a quirky identity to you people.
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JustALEX said:
Secondly...do I really need to give you the definition of "normal"?
I mean technically left-handed people are also not normal...
I think I read somewhere that Left-handed people are only about 10-15% of the entire human population...

What an example..my sister is left handed. There is nothing wrong with her. On the other side, I find your arguments, @JustALEX, pretty valid. Don't like, don't care, don't watch, but also don't hate.

This conversation reminds me of an debate we had in school and they used this as an argument 'being gay or lesbian is a illness, they should be given a medical treatment' in order to defend LGBT, haha. :D

All the 'manly manly guys' in the thread should go fuck pencil sharpeners. And wow, talking like that to a girl. Beautiful indeed.

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Wow so rebellious and unique

Seriously though, you fags are the fakest people on the internet. Being gay is literally nothing but a quirky identity to you people.

anyways who else is feeling gay as fuck

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I've found that people tend to use the word 'yaoi' to make their homophobia sound cuter and more acceptable. Like 'I hate yaoi' is often just 'I hate gay people' except in a form that a lot of people accept more easily.

Like the NGE episode where Kaworu and Shinji get together has two forms of freaking out: people going 'um actually theyre really good friends and it's not gay bc Angels' (even tho rei/shinji fans never argue it isn't straight bc angels), and on the other hand 'its yaoiiii ewwwwwww'. like ya some dudes are being gay with each other...

anyway mal community is fucking boring for a queer like me tbqh
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Claptrap said:
I've found that people tend to use the word 'yaoi' to make their homophobia sound cuter and more acceptable. Like 'I hate yaoi' is often just 'I hate gay people' except in a form that a lot of people accept more easily.

Like the NGE episode where Kaworu and Shinji get together has two forms of freaking out: people going 'um actually theyre really good friends and it's not gay bc Angels' (even tho rei/shinji fans never argue it isn't straight bc angels), and on the other hand 'its yaoiiii ewwwwwww'. like ya some dudes are being gay with each other...

anyway mal community is fucking boring for a queer like me tbqh


Yaoi is a love story between men.

Being gay isn't your entire identity. It's just your sexual orientation. I mean... people's sexual preference are theirs. It only affects them therefore there's no real reason to be homophobic.

Being able to enjoy their sexual preference, empathizing with that emotion or otherwise however is too much to ask of us.
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Claptrap said:
I've found that people tend to use the word 'yaoi' to make their homophobia sound cuter and more acceptable. Like 'I hate yaoi' is often just 'I hate gay people' except in a form that a lot of people accept more easily.

Like the NGE episode where Kaworu and Shinji get together has two forms of freaking out: people going 'um actually theyre really good friends and it's not gay bc Angels' (even tho rei/shinji fans never argue it isn't straight bc angels), and on the other hand 'its yaoiiii ewwwwwww'. like ya some dudes are being gay with each other...

anyway mal community is fucking boring for a queer like me tbqh


Yaoi is a love story between men.

Being gay isn't your entire identity. It's just your sexual orientation. I mean... people's sexual preference are theirs. It only affects them therefore there's no real reason to be homophobic.

Being able to enjoy their sexual preference, empathizing with that emotion or otherwise however is too much to ask of us.


'Being asked not to say homophobic slurs when we see gay people in media + complain that anyone dare let them out into the light is too much to ask of us'

Honestly

Mal community is awful
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Yaoi is a love story between men.

Being gay isn't your entire identity. It's just your sexual orientation. I mean... people's sexual preference are theirs. It only affects them therefore there's no real reason to be homophobic.

Being able to enjoy their sexual preference, empathizing with that emotion or otherwise however is too much to ask of us.


'Being asked not to say homophobic slurs when we see gay people in media + complain that anyone dare let them out into the light is too much to ask of us'

Honestly

Mal community is awful

Ok don't put words in my mouth please.

I said "being asked to enjoy their sexual preference and empathizing with that emotion."

I'm just as against people who would say slurs when they see gay people in media and or complain at the creation of said content.

That's not the same thing.
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The only thing I know about anime and homosexuality is that my family seems to think that anime promotes homosexuality. Both my parents think this and my brother has been also quite vocal about this as well. He even goes the extra mile to say that "young children are easily influence by the gayness of anime" and as a result "turn gay". Yea, that's religious folks for you, any more questions???
Dec 29, 2016 5:13 AM
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Now all you fujoshi know how I feel when ppl never stop complaning about sexualized female characters

And as ive said 20x Im not even bothered by fujobait
Dec 29, 2016 5:32 AM

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Trance said:
If anyone wishes to know just how insecure people still are, or whether we have really accepted homosexuality or not, just read Yuri!!on ice forums. Comparisons are made with lesbian couples and how it would be sexier and that I think tends to mislead. For once, just once, let's say we don't want a sexy anime. At least not one with sexiness as one of its main focus. What we have left is a love story (you get that concept? love, I mean?) between two homosexual males. Now the idea is incomprehensible. Homosexuality, whether of males or females, serves only as erotic entertainment and rarely -- in anime only -- as something more respectable (we all know that Japan rarely respects eroticism too) than mere eroticism. Only this once a serious attempt has been made to portray homosexuality, and that too of males, as normal and it's not taken as such by the viewers. The very fact that it's given names of 'queerbait' is indicative of how many among us (excluding me) are insecure about their sexuality.

Disgust.


Lesbian couples are sexier than Gay couples because women are just sexier than men. Sexy is more prevalent as a feminine aspect. Masculinity focus more on other things.
Also most people are straight so it's normal in a market society that animes target the biggest fanbase
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women are just sexier than men. Sexy is more prevalent as a feminine aspect. Masculinity focus more on other things.


No. Go to hell. Sexy is a genderless trait. It has as much to do with femininity as with masculinity. I have no idea how you people even manage to release brainfarts this big without thinking them out properly.
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Trance said:
Angelquasilike said:
women are just sexier than men. Sexy is more prevalent as a feminine aspect. Masculinity focus more on other things.


No. Go to hell. Sexy is a genderless trait. It has as much to do with femininity as with masculinity. I have no idea how you people even manage to release brainfarts this big without thinking them out properly.


There's no such thing as equality in real life. It's either more of a masculine trait or a feminine trait. It can be present in both genders. But it's more prevalent in one than the other. And that one is obviously the feminine one.
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Angelquasilike said:
Trance said:


No. Go to hell. Sexy is a genderless trait. It has as much to do with femininity as with masculinity. I have no idea how you people even manage to release brainfarts this big without thinking them out properly.


There's no such thing as equality in real life. It's either more of a masculine trait or a feminine trait. It can be present in both genders. But it's more prevalent in one than the other. And that one is obviously the feminine one.


I was going to say that I don't really think its gendered but i guess you are sort of right, if you think about it. Femininity has much stronger norms for appearance compared to masculinity. Although it didn't use to be like that in the old days grooming yourself as a guy was considered manly but it definitely is not considered so in modern times. Typically when you think of femininity things like fashion, beauty, make-up, clothing, and shit like that come to mind. While when I think of Masculinity I think of violence, war, sports, fart jokes, fighting, vulgarity, and shit like that. Thus, I see your point.
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Unknown to salt. Nor known to bans.
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No matter how many times i see that it always give me a good laugh

this topic is like talks on abortion, still can't never come to an agreement/neutral outlook on it
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Trance said:


Because no one objects to it. Men like it because it's hot and women simply aren't insecure about their sexuality to criticize it illogically.

*nods* I see, makes sense. I have yet to see thread made by shoujo-ai/yuri haters.
Though, the 'yuri' they are enjoying is girl groping other girl's breasts, huh?


And also because it turns them on too

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terminador_2397 said:
Victorian-Doll said:

*nods* I see, makes sense. I have yet to see thread made by shoujo-ai/yuri haters.
Though, the 'yuri' they are enjoying is girl groping other girl's breasts, huh?


And also because it turns them on too


Lol no. I hate yuri/shoujou ai.

I think that yaoi/shounen ai haters try to empathize more since the relationship has a guy/guys in it and therefore get riled up when they cannot emotionally compute.

Also, I've learned recently that there are waaaaay more guys like me than I thought. People who dislike both shoujou ai and shounen ai + upper levels but don't mind their existence. I think I'm the norm in this.
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TitanAnteus said:
terminador_2397 said:


And also because it turns them on too


Lol no. I hate yuri/shoujou ai.

I think that yaoi/shounen ai haters try to empathize more since the relationship has a guy/guys in it and therefore get riled up when they cannot emotionally compute.

Also, I've learned recently that there are waaaaay more guys like me than I thought. People who dislike both shoujou ai and shounen ai + upper levels but don't mind their existence. I think I'm the norm in this.


Not just emotionally compute but picture themselves in said characters positions also. I agree with you and am neutral on this.

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Wait, is yuri on ice actually gay? I was under the impression that it wasn't?
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I am disgusted that you question my sexuality, I am attracted to attack helicopters.

For the record on Yuri on Ice, and queerbait aside, I just thought it was boring.
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that's right me
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