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Oct 5, 2014 3:55 PM

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I'm going to take a guess and say that wraps up this arc. As a whole this felt like a step up above S1 in terms of setting the stage and fleshing out the characters, particularly the resonance between Sinon and Kirito. I enjoyed the mystery and suspense that came with death gun and really appreciate how they brought back some more details on SAO via this storyline. The way they explored the psychological state of Kirito and Sinon was well done and I hope this momentum continues (although I'm skeptical about only having 10 episodes left, I hope it's not ALO 2.0).

Going to say a solid 8/10 for GGO. I ultimately prefer SAO's game world/concept but I'm glad they did proper world building this time around. Also that scene at the end was very touching, emphasizing both the burden and blessing that Sinon can now carry.
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I still don't see how people can say this arc was any better then season 1.

It was the same cringe worthy writing where Kirito-kun is literally the only person that can save the day by being perfect while adding yet another girl that only he can save (once again....cos he's just so perfect) to his harem *ass shot*

Sinon could.......could have been a good character however once she got within 10 meters of Kirito-kun she became utterly useless in every regard and needed him to either tell her what to do or save her from everything before becoming yet another girl for his harem. She's just as bad as all the other useless women in this series *ass shot*
Oct 5, 2014 4:53 PM

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One of the better episodes, but all the talking in cafes!!!

The end was nice, glad that she got the closure that she needed.

     
Oct 5, 2014 5:20 PM
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Glad that Shino got the closure that she needed in the end, really good stuff.

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Oct 5, 2014 6:01 PM

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And Sinon is saved. Kirito is her knight in shining plot armor.
Yep.

I think this is probably the worse episode of this first arc.
It may be just me but it seems like SAO is just unable to properly convey drama and feelings...everything feels forced, overly melodramatic and cheesy. I prefer when the series sticks with action and adventure. As soon as the "damsel in distress" pattern kicks in, everything goes down the hill.
As a prime example, Sinon was a pretty good character in the first half of the arc...but then she was ruined to make her another member of the harem.
Also, all the thing about Kirito being saved by the sensor, is just unnecessary bland writing. What was the point of this event?
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There's one thing I'm confused about. Was the bully actually trying to kill Sinon? She kept trying to pull the trigger, so I assume so. Seems a bit crazy for only 20,000 Yen ($200 USD)
Oct 5, 2014 6:09 PM

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I still don't see how people can say this arc was any better then season 1.

Any girl > Asuna, so I much prefer GGO over SAO's first and second arc.
Oct 5, 2014 6:13 PM

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mayukachan said:
SimmianPrime said:
I still don't see how people can say this arc was any better then season 1.

Any girl > Asuna, so I much prefer GGO over SAO's first and second arc.
At least the first 2 arcs didn't go full grimdark 24/7.
Oct 5, 2014 6:21 PM

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There's one thing I'm confused about. Was the bully actually trying to kill Sinon? She kept trying to pull the trigger, so I assume so. Seems a bit crazy for only 20,000 Yen ($200 USD)
It wasn't a real gun.
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Any character > Asuna
Oct 5, 2014 6:24 PM

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Raito said:
There's one thing I'm confused about. Was the bully actually trying to kill Sinon? She kept trying to pull the trigger, so I assume so. Seems a bit crazy for only 20,000 Yen ($200 USD)
It wasn't a real gun.

Oh stupid me, thank you!
Now that I re-watched the scene, it's pretty obvious, whoops.
Oct 5, 2014 6:36 PM

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i swear that the gun the bully used was a bb gun it sounded like one
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Oct 5, 2014 6:51 PM

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Sinon is safe and Kyouji arrested

when Kirito introduced Sinon lol XD

so next arc will be Calibur?

Oct 5, 2014 8:36 PM

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"my friend Asuna" RIP kirito and asuna's relationship due to the writer(s?)'s need for kirito to have a harem -o-
Oct 5, 2014 9:41 PM

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So the syringe hit the exact spot where Kirito had the electrode on.

I'm so done.
Oct 5, 2014 10:21 PM

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SAO is so nice whenever they're not in the real world, because when they are I swear the dialogues, the development and plot take a terrible nose dive.

This episode was cringeworthy for oh so many reasons.

1. Sinon tried to escape the rapist, door locked... not for Kirito though!
2. Plot armor Kirito. Better look like you're suffering from an incoming heart attack... oh wait I'm fine lol.
3. Tried to rape me but I wanna see him and also seem to care about him.
4. They were SAO murderers aka IRL murderers... but for some reason after SAO (1st arc) ended they weren't put in jail (was this ever explained?)
5. Lol I lose all fear to guns over night just because.
6. Harem grows.
7. Apparently convincing people with jobs from outside town to come just to cheer up a teenager is very easy.
8. Sinon the hero. There was not one person that implied how she actually saved people though, back when it actually happened.

I have yet to know what happened with Sinon's mom... I feel like I'm missing something. Was this also ever explained?

I think the only reason why I like SAO is because the concept of a vrmmo is just that attractive to me, add top tier production values and it certainly looks like a nice package.


OH look. More generic trollbaiting from attention deficit disorder people

1. You clearly see Sinnon unlock the door before Yandere-kun grabs her legs.
1. You mean Medically trained person, trying to stab in the best result to reach the heart, stabbed right in the place where medically trained person placed an electrode to achieve best result at monitoring signal. What a surprise~ Not. You do know that they teach in medical schools on how the best it is to reach the heart right? IF Yandere-kun was not a medically trained person(thus targetting same location a nurse would place an electrode on), Kirito would be dead.
3. She understands he is fucked up in head and she knows she is too. An she is strong enough to face her trauma by now. All it shows is the progress in her character.
4. Because you would need to prove which character was who. Good luck doing that with dozens upon dozens of people. That's what the government official we see in this ep and in the premiere was responsible for. And that's how Kirito knows him as he has been giving him information on possible murderers, etc.
5. Except you see her freaking out the seconds latter. She simply is more tolerant now, but not fine, as the anime clearly portrays by her having a panic attack right after she leaves the girls. Trauma within GGO made her face up to the trauma she was running away from. She is not over it, but she is progressing towards better now.
6. Except Kirito is interested only in one person and others have given up on trying and moved past that.
7. Yes when that teenager saved that person's life and is suffering for that. Either you are a sociopath or have no grasp on human psychology.
8. Except that you clearly see the guy pointing the gun at the clerk and then getting distracted by Sinnon. IF Sinnon hadn't done what she did, not only her mother could been shot but the clerk too, since the guy was clearly trigger-happy and unstable.

But keep on hating. There are plenty of slice of life shows that are simple enough to comprehend even for you~

Oh shut the fuck up. You're the kind of fanboy that everybody despises.

Damn weeaboo.

I don't watch as much anime as before...
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And GGO is over.

I hope Calibur and Mother Rosario is not shit.
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as of 2min and 23sec I have to comment this BS.. fk this shit..


Well technically speaking it isn't bullshit, The fact that the nurse left it there is kinda unlikely but the fact that it protected him is pretty likely since the drug/poison thing had to be injected into his heart and that's the best place to monitor heart rate :P
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Infatuate said:

Oh shut the fuck up. You're the kind of fanboy that everybody despises.

Damn weeaboo.


^ Just mad that they proved all your hating points wrong.

Maybe if you focused less on half baked reasons to hate the show you would be able to enjoy it more.
Oct 6, 2014 2:03 AM

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Regardless of whether he is medically trained or not to inject Kirito in the exact same place as the tiny electrode and then have Kiroto laid out as if he was actually dieing is pretty damn cheesy.

Overall this arc was pretty good though, I just hope they don't show too much Yui in the next game that they play, the best thing abought GGO has been no Yui, I don't know about anyone else but that "daddy and mama" stuff drives me up the wall.
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exLightning said:
Dark_Messiah said:
as of 2min and 23sec I have to comment this BS.. fk this shit..


Well technically speaking it isn't bullshit, The fact that the nurse left it there is kinda unlikely but the fact that it protected him is pretty likely since the drug/poison thing had to be injected into his heart and that's the best place to monitor heart rate :P


The reason it was left there was because there was a scene in the LN that was cut from the anime.

In the scene, Kirito wakes up and talks to Asuna sitting by the bed. While talking, he suddenly realised that Sinon is still in danger via deduction. And so he jumped off the bed and rushed straight out. As a result of his haste, some electrode was left on his body.
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At first i thought Kirito was stung by the needle and there was a hole with some kind of liquid over his heart o.0 ...but thankfully i was wrong !!! Overall it was pretty touching from the middle until the end !
Now we have to wait 2 weeks till continuation ? oh boy -_-
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Oct 6, 2014 4:45 AM

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Man pretty meh arc if this is anything like the first Sword Art Online the next arc will be complete shit. Also like how Kirito introduced Asuna as a "friend" so Sinion would think she has a chance. He's actively trying to build up his harem now lol
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Rinth said:
exLightning said:


Well technically speaking it isn't bullshit, The fact that the nurse left it there is kinda unlikely but the fact that it protected him is pretty likely since the drug/poison thing had to be injected into his heart and that's the best place to monitor heart rate :P


The reason it was left there was because there was a scene in the LN that was cut from the anime.

In the scene, Kirito wakes up and talks to Asuna sitting by the bed. While talking, he suddenly realised that Sinon is still in danger via deduction. And so he jumped off the bed and rushed straight out. As a result of his haste, some electrode was left on his body.


That would have been very helpful to know xD

Thank you for clearing that up.
Oct 6, 2014 8:17 AM

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Yeah; Sinon should hear something good. She did save lives in that incident. Asuna acting all jealous. Haha! Next arc coming. Better be good.
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Rinth said:


The reason it was left there was because there was a scene in the LN that was cut from the anime.

In the scene, Kirito wakes up and talks to Asuna sitting by the bed. While talking, he suddenly realised that Sinon is still in danger via deduction. And so he jumped off the bed and rushed straight out. As a result of his haste, some electrode was left on his body.


That would have been very helpful to know xD

Thank you for clearing that up.


They couldn't add that scene cause they skipped some content...

Basically, Sinon tells Kirito that the 'reliable friend' [LULZ] was the son of a hospital owner, when he wakes up, talks with Yui and he hears that 'sterben is a medical term' he rushed to Sinon's place.

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That would have been very helpful to know xD

Thank you for clearing that up.


They couldn't add that scene cause they skipped some content...

Basically, Sinon tells Kirito that the 'reliable friend' [LULZ] was the son of a hospital owner, when he wakes up, talks with Yui and he hears that 'sterben is a medical term' he rushed to Sinon's place.


It still makes sense even if it was skipped.

Kirito would not just leave it to unknown, especially considering what he went through in SAO.
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Reyxe said:


They couldn't add that scene cause they skipped some content...

Basically, Sinon tells Kirito that the 'reliable friend' [LULZ] was the son of a hospital owner, when he wakes up, talks with Yui and he hears that 'sterben is a medical term' he rushed to Sinon's place.


It still makes sense even if it was skipped.

Kirito would not just leave it to unknown, especially considering what he went through in SAO.


Yea i know, but there's some people that can't use the head other than to wear a hat.

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Oct 6, 2014 10:19 AM

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A bit rush at the beginning
but happy to see Sinon getting better and join the team :)

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I quite liked this arc, since it actually focused more on the psychological effects and ethics of a world in which VRMMO's are a reality. Loving the characters, though I'm finding Kirito to be a bit too much of a flirt with everyone.

Two things though... why the heck does Liz have freckles? Isn't she suppose to be Japanese? I never seen a Japanese girl with freckles before....
And why the heck do we need a debriefing episode anyway? Didn't we get debriefed enough during THIS episode?!?!

I can't wait to see what's in store for us on Asuna's story. Hoping to god we'll get an announcement about Alicization (hopefully a season 3?) as well because I kinda dropped the story once the LN got to that arc and haven't found the time to pick the story up again....
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Two things though... why the heck does Liz have freckles? Isn't she suppose to be Japanese? I never seen a Japanese girl with freckles before....
And why the heck do we need a debriefing episode anyway? Didn't we get debriefed enough during THIS episode?!?!


It depends on WHAT is being debriefed, there are things both SAO2 and SAO1 skipped...

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I really liked how Shino dropped her rifle at the end to show she does not need GGO to be strong anymore. The bully part was also another good way of showing how she got stronger because of the whole Death gun incident. Would you consider her situation somewhat like Kirito's past ? How he killed and somewhat never got over it until he found out that those killings helped saved lives ?
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Ending was quite touching, but I guess majority of people hated GGO, oh wells.

Kirito's these are my "friends" from SAO, what a great way to introduce your girlfriend.
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Alright, Now that I'm finished this arc. I feel like I can comment.

This Arc was soo mediocre. Perhaps it's because the adaptation.

But there was piss poor plot armor that wasn't even hidden well. They skipped the scene where he was supposed to talk to asuna about the hand holding business that saved him.
I'll be honest, I was on the edge of my seat when he was injected then PLOTS ARMOR. I was like this is some bullshit, I can't take anything seriously with this anime.

Not to mention, Asunas Reaction got to me. I was like wait, what. You've been through heaven over together, and the one person you care the most about. Is your "friend", honestly any girl would be angry, if her boyfriend made a joke like that. Now that's just this episode. I don't care for Shinos melodrama because I fail to relate to it, and Hi to the Background. BEcause That's all you are Agil, just background.

That kid was adorable though.

There's something that really pisses me off about Sword art. How if theres any other male who's not Kirito ,they're evil. Honestly, it was unnecessary. Sterben was a good character, NOTHING LEAD TO HIM BEING EVIL. But you know he had to be. Kirito can be the only male. Not only that, But there is zero character development in Sword art. They introduce new characters like clockwork and think it'll work. It'd be nice to see some change in attitude from ANYONE. Even Kirito. Because as it is currently, Kirito is omnipotent, and is legit good at everything. (Though he was stated to be a recluse psuedo engineer in S1)

Honestly, GGO sucked to me. I had no connection to any of the characters, so I just didn't care. I hope they stop introducing characters in the next arc, and start working on the characters themselves. You have a decent cast (Excluding Kirito, This season he turned in to a douche and kind of shino, I liked her some parts other parts I was like oh get over yourself). Maybe they should work on character development and stop treating kirito like god and more of a leader.

Also, Your able to detect poison. The fact that a 17 year old boy figured out it was poison. Proves there's something wrong with the system.

Edit: I liked SAO and I think Alfheim was ok. But the pacing of SAO marvelous, the introduction of characters was great. Characters actually developed, the drama wasn't silly, you felt that the characters actually under pressure. You feel nothing with this one.
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Mmm that heart monitor on a tiny part of his chest stops the syringe. The plot armor is real.

Sinon's confrontation with the bullies was a little absurd, she could have gotten them in a whole lot of trouble because (real or not) they pointed a gun at her. But I suppose that scene was there for the purpose of showing character development.

Similarly, the info dump afterwards would have been better spread out across the episode rather than Kirito delivering it all in 2 min, since that was a bit hard for me to follow. Up until now Death Gun has still been pretty mysterious, so I'm glad they just went and told us who he is made of and where he came from.

And of course, like everybody else, I was waiting for Sinon to find out Kirito and Asuna's relationship, but he conveniently left it out of conversation. You could see Asuna and Lizbeth angry for a second when they see him bringing in another girl, but this is anime—+1 harem.

That was actually Dorchester tank plot armor covered in Kaktus ERA with an Iron Dome on it
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My reaction when it's revealed that the syringe just happens to hit the tiny little thing on Kirito's chest: BULLSHIT!!!



I know how you feel bro, it's a coincident that occurs once every ∞ years. Kirito has the luck of a God.

He has dorchester armor plot with Kaktus ERA and an Iron dome APS
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why the heck does Liz have freckles? Isn't she suppose to be Japanese? I never seen a Japanese girl with freckles before....


When you ask a general question you should get into the habit of googling it first. Had you googled "Japanese Freckles" you would have known that they exist.

All races have people with freckles, the reason you may not know is because they are not as obvious on people with naturally darker skin.

As for the "plot armor" crowd. That a pad from an electrode was still on Kirito really isn't that uncommon. Those things are disposable and are made to break away from the actual equipment.
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Two things got me:

-The Electrode. Of all the unlikely things that totally shouldn't happen, unknowingly leaving an electrode on and not feeling it at all on your way to save someone is pushing it.

-Referring to your girlfriend as a "friend" to a girl who she watched you spend a LOT of time with up close and is now watching you help her patch her life up is just not wise. How Kirito got away with it, I haven't the slightest clue.

Other than that, it was a nice conclusion. Touching, with a smile sweet enough to give me diabetes.


From my RL experience, it isn't that unlikely at all. The second part is explained later.

HOWEVER.


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Welp. GGO is done!

Boy was that a good episode.

Good for you Sinon! Good for you :) Finally you overcame your bully issues and dealt with it in such a grown up way. Also its about time you forgave yourself.

Hmmm I have always thought Kirito was very manly guy from Season 1 of SAO but now my view of Kirito has changed quite a bit. I always thought of him to be super strong + less girly and still skinny. But apparently he's not. Oh well. And lol to the part where the thought he was injected. Strange how the needle can't go thru the electrode... hmmm shouldn't it have? Weird.

Anyways. FINALLY GGO IS DONE. Whew. Took forever! Can't wait for the new opening song.

Sinon finally joined Kirito's harem in real life as well woohoo. Good for you Kirito. But damnit... i thought Kirito and Asuna are still dating... aren't they?!?!? Wonder what Sinon's reaction will be when she finds out. Hope to see more of everyone next episode. New game? I wonder what comes next (haven't read the light novels).

5/5 for this episode. Nice way to end it :)


What he said. Forgetting them is a thing that happens quite frequently; sometimes I left the hospital with 2 or 3 of them, other times, the doctors didn't remove them at all so if you forget to remove one yourself... Well.
HOWEVER there is absolutely no way for one of OUR electrodes to stop a seryngue. Especially an automated one like that. Then again, the electrodes in SAO seem.......... a LOT thicker than ours for some reason. It could explain it but it's kind of stupid to do this RL-wise.



Otherwise, great episoide, 5/5, the part at the end was the best part of it, by far.



also i don't get why a guy from a game and their friends should have anything to do with her life but oh well... i guess it was meant to be


.......Because some people care for their friends, even moreso when it is clear that they are not able to take care of their problems themselves? If friendship means letting the people you like slowly self-destruct themselves, that's a strange definition. Even moreso when they do this because they saved someone.

Also, Kirito was in exactly the same situation before. Obviously he will have some kind of ""pity"" and will help her like she did (even if it wasn't on purpose) during their talk.
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"ITS SHOW TIME"

Kikouka reading that sounded like a random loquendo video
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Nice episode. I really don't like how Asuna is like a meaningless person to Kirito after the SAO incident. In SAO they were the anime couple of the year, and now? "Oh yea, that's some friend". ....what?

That ending scene with the lady and her kid. Man that was a super feels trip.

Looking forward to the next arc!
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Great episode!

I didn't expect the fight between Kirito and Death Gun to be over so quickly. It feels like there's an implication of him getting vengeance in some form.

I didn't expect Kyouji to be a rapist too. Reki is going to be teased about enjoying making teenage girls get raped lol.

I expected Kirito to beat up Kyouji IRL but I'm glad that he didn't. Shows that his real power is in games but not in real life.

I was bummed that Asuna was only referred to a "friend." Pretty much made her and Lizbeth seem like equals in his eyes. Maybe it's a Japanese thing? Or maybe just a gift to the KiritoxSinon shippers? Either way, Agil didn't get to talk or get introduced despite the meeting place being his bar haha. (Damn, that is cold...)

So many feels during the letter being handed to Sinon. It vas very touching.

I felt that the pacing was a bit slower than I had like it to be, but it might just be that I was impatient and wanting more and more. Either way, I'll probably re-watch it and marathon it eventually since I'm one of those lame die hard SAO fans.

I find it interesting that Asuna didn't beat up Kirito for everything he did with Sinon in GGO haha.

The electrode made me panic. I already knew about the future arcs in the LNs but I was still concerned thinking he might die temporarily or get really close to death.

The electrode made me laugh! Kirito is one lucky bastard. It was interesting reading the discussion on this topic about how it seemed so random but then others were able to back it up by saying that he rushed from the hospital which is why the electrode was still there. Also, that Kyouji went for the heart since he figured that it would be the fastest way to kill him. Either way, Kirito got very lucky!

Sucks that other Laughing Coffin members are still running loose..

It's cool that Caliber and Mothers Rosario were announced! People that hate Asuna on here won't be happy while others that were disappointed in her not getting screen time in ALO & GGO will be happy!

I'm certainly excited.

Great episode overall. Not perfect and I'l eventually read the LNs to be able to compare but I liked it for what it was.
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This episode was densely-packed with revealing the facts of the crime, Sinon coming to terms with her guilt and the tie-ins with her past. That final scene was something else.. sometimes, only a child's innocent and sincere gratitude can melt the ice. An emotionally moving ending.

BTW, I'm noticing a pattern here, comparing with season one: the 14th episode is always the best, most emotionally-tender one.
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Able to dodge Suguha in kendo even though he hasn't practised for years, gets beaten by Kyouji. Seriously and don't give me that Suguha is a girl, she has practised Kendo since childhood, she should be stronger and faster than Kyouji.

Also the whole electrode scene is stupid and could have easily been avoided if Asada hit Kyoji with the radio earlier. Instead we get this ridiculous scene with Kirito actually getting hit precisly where he had to be hit while he was squireming around, a feat many doctors wouldn't pull off. You're telling me Kyouji who was a medical student was able to do that. I must call BS, and it could all have been averted.

Don't even get me started on how fast Kyouji was able to fight back, Kirito kicked him in the face, he would have been knocked or at least not been at his full senses. Don't even get me started on the whole radio thing that hit could have killed him, unluckily it didn't.

Don't even get me started about Kirito and Sinnon's reasoning behind why Kyouji tried to turn his back on reality, because how does one become stronger by trying to run away. Sinnon didn't become stronger by playing GGO, she became stronger after meeting someone who has gone through a similar experience. It's still good to know she isn't completely over her fear yet, yes even I can admit that, still I wanted the bullies to suffer a bit more, but I guess that's life. Except if you're shitty to Kirito and his friends, and he meets that person, then you get punished. Well and sometimes you shouldn't meet Asuna.

Can't wait to see the MR arc.
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It's sad how everything was good until like episode 11 when Kirito figured out Death Gun's killing method. It's been downhill since then for me.

End of arc was a mess too. But I hope next arc gets better as this arc was clear improvement over last one.
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Able to dodge Suguha in kendo even though he hasn't practised for years, gets beaten by Kyouji. Seriously and don't give me that Suguha is a girl, she has practised Kendo since childhood, she should be stronger and faster than Kyouji.


A couple of points. 1) Kendou is a ritualized and structured fight. Fighting Kyoji was more like a brawl. 2) humans under stress can possess nearly supernatural power. Kyoji fought with complete desperation, his back against the wall. Even the small dog can whip the big dog in his own backyard.

Shock_Yin said:
Also the whole electrode scene is stupid and could have easily been avoided if Asada hit Kyoji with the radio earlier. Instead we get this ridiculous scene with Kirito actually getting hit precisly where he had to be hit while he was squireming around, a feat many doctors wouldn't pull off. You're telling me Kyouji who was a medical student was able to do that. I must call BS, and it could all have been averted.


Asada wasn't capable of hitting Kyoji before she realized that he was actually capable of killing people. Its one thing to intellectually understand something, something very different to understand it viscerally.

Not saying that the electrode was the cutting edge of plot. However its not as far fetched as people think, and the novel did a much better job of explaining why things ended as they did. The animation had to cut those scenes.

Shock_Yin said:
Don't even get me started on how fast Kyouji was able to fight back, Kirito kicked him in the face, he would have been knocked or at least not been at his full senses. Don't even get me started on the whole radio thing that hit could have killed him, unluckily it didn't.


This ties into your above point. Kyouji wasn't in "his full sense", such people are dangerous for that reason. Kirito probably thought the kick to the face was enough, however in this case it wasn't (to give an another example, think a police officer dealing with someone on speed).

Shock_Yin said:
Don't even get me started about Kirito and Sinnon's reasoning behind why Kyouji tried to turn his back on reality, because how does one become stronger by trying to run away. Sinnon didn't become stronger by playing GGO, she became stronger after meeting someone who has gone through a similar experience. It's still good to know she isn't completely over her fear yet, yes even I can admit that, still I wanted the bullies to suffer a bit more, but I guess that's life. Except if you're shitty to Kirito and his friends, and he meets that person, then you get punished. Well and sometimes you shouldn't meet Asuna.


Not really going to argue that, because I agree to a certain extent. However a sad truth is that people after a horrific event try to rationalize the event. Shion wanted to believe that Kyouji could be saved (when it comes down to it she actually DID love him, he was the first person who listened to her), Kirito would want to support Shion.

We all can't be rational assholes. Though to be frank, I am happy that I am one.
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Shock_Yin said:
Able to dodge Suguha in kendo even though he hasn't practised for years, gets beaten by Kyouji. Seriously and don't give me that Suguha is a girl, she has practised Kendo since childhood, she should be stronger and faster than Kyouji.


A couple of points. 1) Kendou is a ritualized and structured fight. Fighting Kyoji was more like a brawl. 2) humans under stress can possess nearly supernatural power. Kyoji fought with complete desperation, his back against the wall. Even the small dog can whip the big dog in his own backyard.

Shock_Yin said:
Also the whole electrode scene is stupid and could have easily been avoided if Asada hit Kyoji with the radio earlier. Instead we get this ridiculous scene with Kirito actually getting hit precisly where he had to be hit while he was squireming around, a feat many doctors wouldn't pull off. You're telling me Kyouji who was a medical student was able to do that. I must call BS, and it could all have been averted.


Asada wasn't capable of hitting Kyoji before she realized that he was actually capable of killing people. Its one thing to intellectually understand something, something very different to understand it viscerally.

Not saying that the electrode was the cutting edge of plot. However its not as far fetched as people think, and the novel did a much better job of explaining why things ended as they did. The animation had to cut those scenes.

Shock_Yin said:
Don't even get me started on how fast Kyouji was able to fight back, Kirito kicked him in the face, he would have been knocked or at least not been at his full senses. Don't even get me started on the whole radio thing that hit could have killed him, unluckily it didn't.


This ties into your above point. Kyouji wasn't in "his full sense", such people are dangerous for that reason. Kirito probably thought the kick to the face was enough, however in this case it wasn't (to give an another example, think a police officer dealing with someone on speed).

Shock_Yin said:
Don't even get me started about Kirito and Sinnon's reasoning behind why Kyouji tried to turn his back on reality, because how does one become stronger by trying to run away. Sinnon didn't become stronger by playing GGO, she became stronger after meeting someone who has gone through a similar experience. It's still good to know she isn't completely over her fear yet, yes even I can admit that, still I wanted the bullies to suffer a bit more, but I guess that's life. Except if you're shitty to Kirito and his friends, and he meets that person, then you get punished. Well and sometimes you shouldn't meet Asuna.


Not really going to argue that, because I agree to a certain extent. However a sad truth is that people after a horrific event try to rationalize the event. Shion wanted to believe that Kyouji could be saved (when it comes down to it she actually DID love him, he was the first person who listened to her), Kirito would want to support Shion.

We all can't be rational assholes. Though to be frank, I am happy that I am one.


I was going to answer him, but its wasted time, if he can't figure all that out by himself, then its pointless, some people just have the head to wear a hat.

Also, what some people doesn't seem to get, is that when reality is a shit, like a total shit and you get some psychological shit going on like severe depression and so on, you don't go and "oh im facing this shit, i got it" cause you can't, Kyouji happened to find a world he loved, GGO, that's it. Sometimes I feel that people on the internet are living in a rose colored world where everything is pure happiness, oh im so envious of this idiots.

Not saying Kyouji had severe depression, but family can turn your life into a total hell, his real life was totally crushed, he couldn't do anything but to hold all the expectations his parents had with him, ended up going nuts.

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And Asada magically overcomes her trauma. Well, she's not completely over it, but at least she can put up a front long enough to trick her enemies. Aw, and Kirito introduces Asada to his harem. How sweet.

So is the Pale Rider really dead? That sucks.
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Reyxe said:
Takuan_Soho said:


A couple of points. 1) Kendou is a ritualized and structured fight. Fighting Kyoji was more like a brawl. 2) humans under stress can possess nearly supernatural power. Kyoji fought with complete desperation, his back against the wall. Even the small dog can whip the big dog in his own backyard.



Asada wasn't capable of hitting Kyoji before she realized that he was actually capable of killing people. Its one thing to intellectually understand something, something very different to understand it viscerally.

Not saying that the electrode was the cutting edge of plot. However its not as far fetched as people think, and the novel did a much better job of explaining why things ended as they did. The animation had to cut those scenes.



This ties into your above point. Kyouji wasn't in "his full sense", such people are dangerous for that reason. Kirito probably thought the kick to the face was enough, however in this case it wasn't (to give an another example, think a police officer dealing with someone on speed).



Not really going to argue that, because I agree to a certain extent. However a sad truth is that people after a horrific event try to rationalize the event. Shion wanted to believe that Kyouji could be saved (when it comes down to it she actually DID love him, he was the first person who listened to her), Kirito would want to support Shion.

We all can't be rational assholes. Though to be frank, I am happy that I am one.


I was going to answer him, but its wasted time, if he can't figure all that out by himself, then its pointless, some people just have the head to wear a hat.

Also, what some people doesn't seem to get, is that when reality is a shit, like a total shit and you get some psychological shit going on like severe depression and so on, you don't go and "oh im facing this shit, i got it" cause you can't, Kyouji happened to find a world he loved, GGO, that's it. Sometimes I feel that people on the internet are living in a rose colored world where everything is pure happiness, oh im so envious of this idiots.

Not saying Kyouji had severe depression, but family can turn your life into a total hell, his real life was totally crushed, he couldn't do anything but to hold all the expectations his parents had with him, ended up going nuts.


^THIS

[b]they even spent whole first episode discussing the concepts of reality and virtuality[/s]

I guess subtle worldbuilding flies right past people's heads.
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Nice way to end the Phantom Bullet arc. The second half of the episode was the best those feels just were so freaking awesome. Great arc all the way.
5/5
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I facepamed so hard at how he survived the syringe.
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