Do you consider sushi one of your favorite foods?
Yes
44.4%
344
No
49.4%
383
I just like to make bets on who can eat more wasabi!
6.2%
48
775 votes
hikky said: I'm just trying to understand the obsession. Well..like I said before. Your so labeling it an obsession is part of the problem. hikky said: And really, I don't understand why everything has to be illogical just because you I only brought up logic because you did earlier. Liking something of Japanese culture for the mere reason it is Japanese is way far different from obsession. Really, this is like comparing everyone who plays GTA3 to a murderer. Obsession isn't a word to be thrown around. You're basically, as a Japanese learning anime watching weeaboo, a little clusterfuck of all the things you don't like about Japan or could not bring yourself to like as this "little weeaboo problem" that's everyone and everywhere to you because you want to see it. Despite the fact you already fit into 30% of people's definition of one. All someone had to do was say "I like my sushi with a Japanese alcoholic beverage" for you to go all out and say "there's one, there's my true blue weeaboo I've been looking for!". And you've been even attacking the very notion of eating sushi. Especially if that person didn't just happen to come upon sushi, and like it. But was actually like "yeah, I want to try some Japanese food, hey this sushi is pretty cool." People can like Japanese things just because they're Japanese, want to go to Japan, want to LIVE in Japan, and much much more. And STILL view Japanese just as people like everyone else, Japan as a country with more problems than their own, and ect. and ect. There is quite a lot between point A and point B here. And you're sound to me like all the people in Magibon's channel telling her she's Japan obsessed, wants to be dirty Asian. And ect. and ect. And a good portion of them anime fans. I mean really, again, why must a person have an EXCUSE to have any sort of cultural interest at all? Having an interest in an entire culture is NOT a negative thing. Unless of course, you're a xenophobe. In fact, the very idea of a Sister City is based around the idea of doing such a thing. And even if you don't like sushi at first. Aren't lots of things an acquired taste? What's wrong with wanting to like something? Ugh. I don't like the taste of sake as much as I like the taste of beer, but I kind of wish I did. Because I kind of like sake. For reasons other than the taste. Like in the way it's presented. |
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| Its fact, people who don't eat sushi dont like going down on girls. I like girls, i like boobs and i like sushi. Sushi tastes like girls. And no, I didnt like sushi because of anime. Popular to contrary belief, most people who eat sushi dont like anime -_-. Sushi is typically considered a high-class dish, which is why it costs $5 for 2 pieces of abalone or $10 for one piece of Taro. Like wine, you have to train your pallet to enjoy what you are eating. Some people suck at discerning different tastes, like all chicken dishes taste the same, or all sushi dishes taste like fish. Thats just the ignorant masses brainwashing you to be lazy and not learn about WTF you are stuffing in your mouth. I personally have been eating sushi since i was 6. My mom even taught me how to make it by hand. She's not some crazy otaku, she's works in hospital administration and she would rather read a Danielle Steele novel than watch yu-gi-oh. So throw your baseless comments out the window and learn to know WTF you are stuffing down your throat. It actually might save your life. [/rant] |
ukonkivi said: This is the part I don't get. Someone is just matching the tastes of food. I personally prefer water with sushi, but for alcohol, sake or beer seems like a natural choice. I like wine with good steak. I like wine with cheese. I like milk with cookies. I like Coke with a hamburger. It's the same idea. What kind of alcohol are they going to have at a Japanese restaurant? Around here, sake, wine (too strong imo for sushi), or beer.All someone had to do was say "I like my sushi with a Japanese alcoholic beverage" for you to go all out and say "there's one, there's my true blue weeaboo I've been looking for!". Are they supposed to drink Mountain Dew with the sushi? I think it's being too far read into as well. |
| @ hikky So eating Sushi, drinking sake, watching anime or doing anything that is from the Japanese culture makes you automatically "obsessed"? Then if I follow your logic, loving pizza and driving a Fiat 500 makes me "obsessed" with Italy and having fast food while watching the next episode of Heros makes me "obsessed" with America? Your stereotyping sickens me, enough of this shit. Stay on topic. |
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SageShinigami said: It's just like how people take 4 years of Spanish or French in high school and can't speak more than one or two sentences by the end of it. You'd have to be really stupid. Seriously. Okay, I understand how you can take Spanish I in HS and then get out and only remember like a word or two, despite the fact that you did very well, grade-wise. (It happened to me.) But on the other hand...for you to go through Spanish or French I, then II, then III, AND IV? Year after year after year (after year..) of drilling it into your head (we're still assuming this person absolutely excelled) for you not to speak it fluently? Yeah....something's wrong with that picture. On the other hand I can totally understand going to Japan and then being kind of taken off guard at first since, as with any country, there's a whole lot of slang and you'd have to get used to it. But to pass four years of JP, and all (or most) of the JLPT and still know nothing? The odds of that seem a bit low. Firstly, the curriculum doesn't cover anywhere near enough material for fluency. A language is a huge amount to learn, and few people successfully learn a second language through study alone. Most people learn their second language when they're younger or after they move to a new country and are forced to use it regularly. Even if you excelled, as long as you were just learning what the class taught, you would absolutely not attain fluency. Slang is not the problem, it's simply a lack of the proper level of knowledge for fluency. I should also mention that a college Japanese curriculum does not nearly cover the full scope of the JLPT, and even the after passing the JLPT1, you'd still be pushing it to call someone "fluent". ....All that said? I don't get the "self-hating otaku" types either. The ones who go out of their way to show how different they are from the kind of people I mentioned above because they don't want normal people to think they're not "cool" or something. The ones who look down on people just because they're not as critical of anime or get fanatical about every series they watch. There's a lot of that on this forum (in anime fandom in general, really), and its kinda laughable. C'mon...we all really like anime here. This is a bit of an undeniable fact. You're on a site that's sole purpose is keeping track of how much anime you watch--if you're just an occasional fan who only watches a series here and there when the mood strikes you, then, well...you have a different problem. (Why are you obsessed with wasting your time, basically.) No offense hikky, but you kinda came off like one of those types when you made this thread...if you're not then I apologize but most of the time I was reading this thread that was the thought that went through my head. I'm going to have to say this to most people that replied to me, but you are implying that I was saying it is a negative thing to have an obsession with Japan. I did not say that, and I don't believe that. I don't understand the thought process, and so I am trying to understand it. I've tried to make that clear but it seems people keep mentally copying and pasting different connotations into my post. As for the self-hating otaku thing, you can call me what you want, but I'd have to disagree on that. The only place I would avoid talking about anime is with my family or other people I know, because of the negative connotations that come with that interest in society currently (I don't need people in real life looking down on me for more reasons than they already do). I don't go out of my way to say I don't like anime, and seriously, the last thing I'm ever trying to do here or anywhere else is seem cool. If I were trying to seem cool, I probably wouldn't be mentioning that I spend all but 1 or 2 hours of my waking day sitting in my room browsing the computer. ukonkivi said: hikky said: I'm just trying to understand the obsession. Well..like I said before. Your so labeling it an obsession is part of the problem. What should I say then? Preference? Bias? I'm not too concerned with the terminology because it is what it is no matter what it's called. ukonkivi said: I only brought up logic because you did earlier. Liking something of Japanese culture for the mere reason it is Japanese is way far different from obsession. Really, this is like comparing everyone who plays GTA3 to a murderer. It's not really the same at all, because playing video games and committing crimes are two different actions.. where as just really liking Japan and being obsessed with Japan are different levels of the same thing. Again, I never said "ukonkivi is obsessed with Japan". Do you not realize that some people who act like this are obsessed with Japan, who might happen to not be you? But again, I don't really care about the terminology. We can call it whatever you want to call it. ukonkivi said: You're basically, as a Japanese learning anime watching weeaboo, a little clusterfuck of all the things you don't like about Japan or could not bring yourself to like as this "little weeaboo problem" that's everyone and everywhere to you because you want to see it. Despite the fact you already fit into 30% of people's definition of one. You know, it's hard to reply to someone who isn't actually responding to what you're saying, but is responding to you nevertheless. I never said there is a "little weeaboo problem", I didn't say there's anything wrong with liking Japan or Japanese things. People can define me that way if they want, but again, no matter what you call something, the actual thing is the same, and the only trait I exhibit of a "weeaboo" is watching anime. Again, that's not because I have a dislike for those people, it's because our interests differ. ukonkivi said: All someone had to do was say "I like my sushi with a Japanese alcoholic beverage" for you to go all out and say "there's one, there's my true blue weeaboo I've been looking for!". And you've been even attacking the very notion of eating sushi. Especially if that person didn't just happen to come upon sushi, and like it. But was actually like "yeah, I want to try some Japanese food, hey this sushi is pretty cool." Obviously I'm not inferring that anyone who likes both sushi and anime is obsessed with Japan. I can, however, imagine that most people who would consider sushi as one of their favorite foods, and also regularly watch anime, and want to learn about "Japanese culture", like sushi at least in part simply because it's Japanese. ukonkivi said: People can like Japanese things just because they're Japanese, want to go to Japan, want to LIVE in Japan, and much much more. And STILL view Japanese just as people like everyone else, Japan as a country with more problems than their own, and ect. and ect. Well, you wouldn't like Japanese things because you wanted to live in Japan, you would want to live in Japan because you like Japanese things. Of course, those people don't tend to end up living in Japan, IMO because what they're after is not really Japan. Japan can be a tough place to live, and it can be hard to put up with the Japanese attitude toward foreigners day in and day out, as well as adjusting to the different mentalities and realizing that people really are a product of their society. ukonkivi said: There is quite a lot between point A and point B here. And you're sound to me like all the people in Magibon's channel telling her she's Japan obsessed, wants to be dirty Asian. And ect. and ect. And a good portion of them anime fans. Actually, if I've ever commented on a magibon video it was in questioning why so many people watch such boring and dull videos. I still don't get it, I wouldn't watch a girl stare at the camera with infrequent verbal utterances in any language. ukonkivi said: I mean really, again, why must a person have an EXCUSE to have any sort of cultural interest at all? Having an interest in an entire culture is NOT a negative thing. Unless of course, you're a xenophobe. In fact, the very idea of a Sister City is based around the idea of doing such a thing. They don't need to have an excuse. Again, I never said they do. I don't know why I keep typing this out over and over again. If you want to argue with someone who hates weeaboos and everything they stand for, I'm sure there are plenty of people like that you could find to argue with. I'm not intending to argue, I'm interested in why people are that way. It's something that doesn't make sense to me, so I'm trying to make sense of it. ukonkivi said: And even if you don't like sushi at first. Aren't lots of things an acquired taste? What's wrong with wanting to like something? Ugh. Same reply to this as above. ukonkivi said: I don't like the taste of sake as much as I like the taste of beer, but I kind of wish I did. Because I kind of like sake. For reasons other than the taste. Like in the way it's presented. That's what I don't understand, is liking something for reasons other than the important qualities of what that thing is.. such as liking music that's really fairly mediocre, just because it came from an anime, or drinking tea when you don't really like it, because Japanese people drink tea.. eating sushi in an attempt to acquire the taste, I'm not saying it's bad to do that, I just wonder what drives people to do it. I don't understand trying to change or unconsciously changing your personal preferences to be more like a set of traditions or a culture. I remember a while ago, on a different forum, a guy who was obsessed (In this case, obsessed is the proper word) with kimonos was asking the people there (Many who lived in Japan at the time) how he could get to Japan. He had his own website devoted to kimonos, where he took pictures of him and other people in kimono meets wearing the kimonos, he said he wore his kimono around the house all the time, etc.. and because of this, he wanted to go to Japan, thinking he would be understood there and his love for kimonos would be normal. Thing is, not only did he love kimonos, he was a really devout Mormon (I think it was Mormon, maybe Catholic), and a few other things, and the people there told him that he would be seen as even more strange in Japan than he was in America. He lashed back and told these people over and over again, who lived in Japan, that they were wrong about Japanese life and people, even though he had never been there. The problem was, he wanted to live in a place that didn't really exist, where everyone would understand him wearing a kimono every day in everything he did... but he kept denying the fact that it didn't exist. I think that a lot of the people I'm talking about are interested in a Japan that doesn't exist (Presumably Japan as it's portrayed in anime, which is a very different thing than Japan in the real world), but they don't realize that fact. (And no, ukonkivi, you don't have to get defensive over this, because I'm not referring to you). aero said: @ hikky So eating Sushi, drinking sake, watching anime or doing anything that is from the Japanese culture makes you automatically "obsessed"? No, it's a combination of multiple factors other than just sushi and sake. Considering Sushi to be the best food in the whole world, and liking it with sake, while wanting to learn about Japanese culture and the language in order to some day live in Japan, and being a big fan of anime, paints a little bit of a fuller picture than "sushi and sake"... I guess by now though, I shouldn't expect people to actually respond to what I actually said. Everybody here is doing plenty of stereotyping, but people only ever care about the stereotyping that people who they disagree with are doing. I don't know how many times I had to restate my position because of all the stereotyping I received, but I'm not going to say it "sickens me". |
| Sushi's okay. I don't love it, but I'll eat it if I have to. I'm not big into traditional Japanese or Chinese food, but I do like shrimp fried rice a lot. *so Americanized* X_X |
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| On a side note, last time i was at a sushi bar with friends, they sell sake and japanese beer. Just to clarify. If i wanted coke or pepsi ill go to the chineese buffet next door. But when they're offering a 40 oz of Asahi for $3, and $1 sake shots at the sushi bar, only a fool would pass up the deals. And yes RICE wine (aka Sake) makes sushi taste that much better. |
| My parents used to make sushi every weekend. I think I got a little sick of it... But good sushi in the right amounts is really good. I like it a lot. Especially the fancy rolls... |
| I tried sushi once and hated it. I though I might as well try it because I like some fish, such as tuna or the fish you get in fish and chips (which ever one that is XD), but the fish taste was too strong and made me feel sick. :( |
| I tried sushi once about 6-7 years ago and hated it, but I tried it recently at the urging of a friend from a 'good' sushi place around 6 months ago, and found a liking for it. Some taste good alone, while others need crab sauce. It just depends on your preferences. |
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| I love sushi, just hade some for dinner today. There's way too many places selling cheap, half-assed sushi though, which even a sushi lover like can't eat without feeling sick. Luckily I live right next to a modest little sushi-place run by japanese and koreans which sells some of the best sushi in town ^_^ |
hikky said: I'm going to have to say this to most people that replied to me, but you are implying that I was saying it is a negative thing to have an obsession with Japan. You weren't? Obsession is generally a negatively used term. When you make a topic saying "Pfft, stop pretending, you don't really like the taste of sushi", and labeling people obsessed, it's easy to surmise this is pure bashing. hikky said: I did not say that, and I don't believe that. I don't understand the thought process, and so I am trying to understand it. I've tried to make that clear but it seems people keep mentally copying and pasting different connotations into my post. Okay...here we go. It's a complicated mess, but I might as well explain my position. I fall into almost ALL stereotypes of the weeaboo. I even once threw English words in Japanese sentences constantly. I'm gonna put it in a spoiler because it's very tl;dr. Well...there you have it. A personal story of this Japan-lover. Since you say you are so curious. I'll respond to the rest of your post that was actually a response to me later. |
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ukonkivi said: hikky said: I'm going to have to say this to most people that replied to me, but you are implying that I was saying it is a negative thing to have an obsession with Japan. You weren't? Obsession is generally a negatively used term. When you make a topic saying "Pfft, stop pretending, you don't really like the taste of sushi", and labeling people obsessed, it's easy to surmise this is pure bashing. hikky said: I did not say that, and I don't believe that. I don't understand the thought process, and so I am trying to understand it. I've tried to make that clear but it seems people keep mentally copying and pasting different connotations into my post. Okay...here we go. It's a complicated mess, but I might as well explain my position. I fall into almost ALL stereotypes of the weeaboo. I even once threw English words in Japanese sentences constantly. I'm gonna put it in a spoiler because it's very tl;dr. Well...there you have it. A personal story of this Japan-lover. Since you say you are so curious. I'll respond to the rest of your post that was actually a response to me later. No, I actually found this quite interesting, because surprisingly, or maybe not surprisingly, there are things I can relate to in what you posted. I think I understand it a little better now, even if it wouldn't be the same for me. If all things fall into place correctly, I'll be going on an exchange next year in hopes of learning a bit more and cementing my language knowledge.. I hope it doesn't have that same impact on me, although I guess there's nothing you can do about it if it does, eh? One thing I can highly relate to, though, is the idea of disappointment in reverting to normal life, and the sort of short-lasting high when you're set on doing something. I have a lot of problems being social and feeling normal in social situations, so when the possibility of an exchange presented itself originally, I got into this mood, wanting to throw away the introverted, good-for-nothing person I originally was, in hopes of turning the exchange into one of those "starting over in a new town" types of things. I think I've made some progress, but it's extremely easy to get back into daily life and lose that fiery motivation. And of course, I get so utterly pissed off at myself when I start thinking negatively about my poor social skills and imagining unrealistic situations that make me think "Maybe it's better just to not go on an exchange". I guess though, for me, it's not about Japan specifically, it's about personal frustrations that have built up over the past ~5 years, Japan becomes the outlet or tool to attempt to change that, I didn't go to middle or highschool and got so far behind, I always have to dodge any questioning on what I learned because I hate people looking down on me and assuming I'm stupid.. when Japanese was the one thing I could talk about and have confidence that I could show that I truly learned something. What you said makes sense though. I can respect your Japanophilia, the reason I often don't understand these things is because it seems like people form such a preference for Japanese things with a certain obliviousness to that fact, almost like they're just using Japan as a phase or a fad that they can brush off later on. That mentality of fleeting and "surface level interest" if you will, is incomprehensible to me, but I can see that's not always the case. A funny side note about Hikaru Utada, one person mistook that for the origin of my username, because apparently she was also known as hikky (Or hikki? Of course in katakana it's the same). |
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| Well those who actually like Toro i know i misspelled it last time, BUYER BEWARE! Its been uncovered at numerous western sushi bar's (in the USA, Europe, AND Australia) that they substitute Toro with cheaper fish or use regular tuna and soak it in oil. Theres also alot of cost cutting techniques that i never heard about before till i googled "fake toro" http://archive.japantoday.com/jp/kuchikomi/478 |
| ..i like Sushi. D: Fish is awesome. Nori, too. <3 |
| Was that supposed to be a joke? |
| I've never tried Sushi, shock horror! |
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| I had sushi once at a buffet. It was interesting the first time, so I had a second helping. But it's not something I would go out of my way to have on a regular basis. |
| Sushi is good once in a while, just stay away from the buffet sushi and the like. It just a very nice change of pace from the usual stuff I eat. Its nice and light and can be very good. The last time I had sushi was a few months ago. The only godly sushi/sashimi I have is in the style where it DOESN'T use wasabi with soy sauce. It uses various different kind of sauces and well, it was pretty damn good. I haven't had it since my first time. To each their own. --- 666, you're all screwed along with me. |
| I love sushi with sake. Also watching anime with it makes it even more godlike. I usually read manga when eating it because I absolutely love everything Japanese. Obsession is so awesome! =D |
| It took me a helluva long time to like sushi. I honestly think I tricked myself into liking it somehow. >.> Either way I like it... but I still think I'm lying to myself somehow... lol does that make any sense? |
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| I've gotten interested in sushi lately. Went to a japanese restaurant a month ago, and while I usually had california rolls(they're good, so the hell with you all), I decided to have some albacore, and ended up really liking it. I'm never usually a fan of fish, so my guess would be it all depends on the freshness. It was a very legitimate place, so go figure. Definitely having it again next time. |
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| i don't like fish.<--(period) but sushi doesn't suit my taste either. but someone before has asked if i liked anime, i said yes, then he asked me if i liked sushi o.o *Waves [WTF] Flag** |
SinfulZero said: i don't like fish.<--(period) but sushi doesn't suit my taste either. but someone before has asked if i liked anime, i said yes, then he asked me if i liked sushi o.o *Waves [WTF] Flag** LOL i sorta do the samething with girls ME: do you like sushi? Her: I loooove sushi! ME: do you like girls? Her: If they're hot enough, sure! JACKPOT! |
SinfulZero said: i don't like fish.<--(period) but sushi doesn't suit my taste either. but someone before has asked if i liked anime, i said yes, then he asked me if i liked sushi o.o *Waves [WTF] Flag** Is his name hikky? |
| Whoever thinks sushi is tasteless obviously has no taste in anything. Might as well keep drinking your alcohol and pretzels. |
| Sushi like most Japanese food is an aquired taste. Now I personally havn't had sushi yet. But I know that I probably might not like it at first, however as you grow more aquired to it you will eventually get used to it. Hell I used to hate eating certain foods but now I am, you just have to develop a taste to it. |
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the_prime_one said: weaboo thread not really. The majority of people who like suhi have probably never heard of anime. |
| It's okay. I'll eat it from time to time. |
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sniW said: okonomiyaki This one translates to English as "heart attack". |
| I wouldn't consider sushi to be a favorite food for me, but I do crave some good eel every once in awhile. |
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hikky said: Bahaha, what? Google translate must suck a lot more than I thought. It's "お好み焼き". See the Wikipedia entry.sniW said: okonomiyaki This one translates to English as "heart attack". |
hikky said: SageShinigami said: It's just like how people take 4 years of Spanish or French in high school and can't speak more than one or two sentences by the end of it. You'd have to be really stupid. Seriously. Okay, I understand how you can take Spanish I in HS and then get out and only remember like a word or two, despite the fact that you did very well, grade-wise. (It happened to me.) But on the other hand...for you to go through Spanish or French I, then II, then III, AND IV? Year after year after year (after year..) of drilling it into your head (we're still assuming this person absolutely excelled) for you not to speak it fluently? Yeah....something's wrong with that picture. On the other hand I can totally understand going to Japan and then being kind of taken off guard at first since, as with any country, there's a whole lot of slang and you'd have to get used to it. But to pass four years of JP, and all (or most) of the JLPT and still know nothing? The odds of that seem a bit low. Firstly, the curriculum doesn't cover anywhere near enough material for fluency. A language is a huge amount to learn, and few people successfully learn a second language through study alone. Most people learn their second language when they're younger or after they move to a new country and are forced to use it regularly. Even if you excelled, as long as you were just learning what the class taught, you would absolutely not attain fluency. Slang is not the problem, it's simply a lack of the proper level of knowledge for fluency. I should also mention that a college Japanese curriculum does not nearly cover the full scope of the JLPT, and even the after passing the JLPT1, you'd still be pushing it to call someone "fluent". I'm really sorry, but..I'm not buying it dude. The curriculum would have to actually be nigh on non-existent for you not to pass at fluency after FOUR years of studying. I'm not exactly sure what you'd be doing for 50 minutes a day, three times a week for 18 weeks for four years to NOT attain fluency, but whatever you'd be doing, I can assure you this: you would also not be passing. ...Well. You could, but you'd have to cheat. I'm going to have to say this to most people that replied to me, but you are implying that I was saying it is a negative thing to have an obsession with Japan. I did not say that, and I don't believe that. I don't understand the thought process, and so I am trying to understand it. I've tried to make that clear but it seems people keep mentally copying and pasting different connotations into my post. As for the self-hating otaku thing, you can call me what you want, but I'd have to disagree on that. The only place I would avoid talking about anime is with my family or other people I know, because of the negative connotations that come with that interest in society currently (I don't need people in real life looking down on me for more reasons than they already do). I don't go out of my way to say I don't like anime, and seriously, the last thing I'm ever trying to do here or anywhere else is seem cool. If I were trying to seem cool, I probably wouldn't be mentioning that I spend all but 1 or 2 hours of my waking day sitting in my room browsing the computer. Right, like I said--I was probably wrong about it, I was just saying that's what it seemed like. Sorry if I offended you or anything. (It was also a general response to the self-hating otaku just in case any were reading the thread. :D I had to get it out.) |
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| If it's high school, then it's totally plausible to not gain fluency during the 4 years, however if it was a university or college... then it's more likely to qualify, however, most people who normally take language class in college/uni has already took some in high school, so they have a bit background to it at least. I can say this because my English teacher had the exact problem. He said he didn't learn nearly as much in high school about German than an university. And hated high school language classes, for some reason. |
sniW said: hikky said: Bahaha, what? Google translate must suck a lot more than I thought. It's "お好み焼き". See the Wikipedia entry.sniW said: okonomiyaki This one translates to English as "heart attack". Wow, google translate? Harsh. It's depressing when people fail to pick up on sarcasm. I knew what it means, I was saying that it's a big pile of shit that will kill you early if you have it often. SageShinigami said: I'm really sorry, but..I'm not buying it dude. The curriculum would have to actually be nigh on non-existent for you not to pass at fluency after FOUR years of studying. I'm not exactly sure what you'd be doing for 50 minutes a day, three times a week for 18 weeks for four years to NOT attain fluency, but whatever you'd be doing, I can assure you this: you would also not be passing. ...Well. You could, but you'd have to cheat. I'll say again, the curriculum covers nowhere near enough material for fluency, and that would be provided that everyone's remembering it all. Have you ever made a serious attempt at learning a second language? There is a ton to learn. If we peg fluency at ~10,000 words and ~3,000 kanji, even if you had Japanese classes every day for four years, you'd have to be fully learning and retaining about 7 words and 2 kanji (Usually multiple readings and meanings for each, with potentially many many varying uses) consistently each day, which on its own would probably be too fast for most people using normal methods... And you're telling me 3 days a week? For 18 weeks nonetheless? and even besides that, the classes place too much focus on grammar and thus teach you even more slowly. Learning a language requires consistent self study. You can't just learn it as the topic of a class, and the boatloads of people who have taken 4, 6, 8 or more years of language classes and can barely communicate simple things in that language are a shining example. |
hikky said: Learning a language requires consistent self study. You can't just learn it as the topic of a class, and the boatloads of people who have taken 4, 6, 8 or more years of language classes and can barely communicate simple things in that language are a shining example. I'd have to agree. I've been learnign french for 8 years now, and i'm relatively fluent, BUT NOT COMPLETELY FLUENT YET. You cannot learn a foreign language in a span of 4 years without being in the respective country. I learned japanese because i interacted with alot of japanese people and i visited japan often. For french though, i hardly visit france, and i'm not interested in anything particularily french (even french cuisine sucks imo). Anyway, that was off-topic. SUSHI SUSHI SUSHI |
hikky said: あはは、な～んだ。あんた日本語分かってるんじゃん。すまない。Hehe, I completely missed that sarcasm. Oh man, but okonomiyaki tastes so good.sniW said: Wow, google translate? Harsh. It's depressing when people fail to pick up on sarcasm. I knew what it means, I was saying that it's a big pile of shit that will kill you early if you have it often.hikky said: Bahaha, what? Google translate must suck a lot more than I thought. It's "お好み焼き". See the Wikipedia entry.sniW said: okonomiyaki This one translates to English as "heart attack". |
sniW said: hikky said: あはは、な～んだ。あんた日本語分かってるんじゃん。すまない。Hehe, I completely missed that sarcasm. Oh man, but okonomiyaki tastes so good.sniW said: Wow, google translate? Harsh. It's depressing when people fail to pick up on sarcasm. I knew what it means, I was saying that it's a big pile of shit that will kill you early if you have it often.hikky said: Bahaha, what? Google translate must suck a lot more than I thought. It's "お好み焼き". See the Wikipedia entry.sniW said: okonomiyaki This one translates to English as "heart attack". 別に「分かる」とは言えないけどさ・・・そりゃ時間の問題。 I guess I'm biased on the okonomiyaki thing because I turned into a bit of a health nut a while ago. I can't just eat something like that no matter how good it tastes anymore. |
| hey man, guess what. Sushi isn't an otaku thing, even though it's certainly held up as "SO COOL" and shit. Try shitty sushi bars that white people go to, because they're "new age" http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/30/42-sushi/ gg. |
article said: In addition, going out for Sushi is considered a special evening in white person culture. Not as special as breakfast, but still, it comes with expectations. But what if the person you are interested in is a vegetarian? Not a problem. For some reason, most white people who say they are vegetarians will eat Sushi. Apparently, fish aren’t cute enough to warrant inclusion with pigs, chickens and cows. i lol'ed Sushi outside of Japan, Korea or Hong Kong is overpriced imo. 3 euros for one salmon sushi. wtf. |
| Iuno about the price though, but there's a place I monthly go to that's like 11 bucks (Canadian dollar) for all-you-can eat, the most expensive, "elegant" being 25 bucks for all-you-can-eat. Rarely go to a Japanese restaurant though, cuz that's the real expensive shiz. |
tr1ggers4d said: Try shitty sushi bars that white people go to, because they're "new age" http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/30/42-sushi/ gg. I hate that site. |
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| I love eating sushi, and not because I love watching anime too. Sashimi, too. I don't really like eating cooked fish though. I like this one fish that's cooked, but I could only have it when I was in Hong Kong because it's not as fresh here. I do like seafood though, in general. And I'm Asian, so I don't know if that plays a factor, but I grew up eating seaweed too. You know, those little seaweed inside the little bags that you rip open and snack on. |
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| I'm not a fan of any kind of seafood, but a few years back, long before watching animes, i tried like 6 kinds of sushi. Wasn't particularly bad, but I don't think I could eat it 7 days a week. Strange thing was, that I expected wasabi to be a lot hotter and spicier. We have something quite similar in my country that's way hotter and more "colorful" in taste. Similar thing basically with Sake. It's not that strong, tastes like catpiss though (hope i don't offend anyone) btw, what the hell is a California roll? |
| California rolls have crab, avocado and cucumber in them. Southern California was the first place in the States where sushi really caught on, and the California roll was an original recipe that generally inspired chefs to experiment more with traditional-style sushi and come up with their own variety. Thus they're pretty popular in America but I doubt you could find them in Japan. I absolutely love sushi - it's definitely my favorite food. I generally like seafood though, and Asian food as well, so I don't guess it's surprising. The bit about it being trendy doesn't interest me, though I guess I'm grateful as it keeps some good sushi bars in business around town. Also, rather than pretending to like the taste of sushi, I've never seen someone who didn't like it after I convinced them to try some. Most of them weren't particularly ecstatic - they wouldn't go off and order it themselves - but they didn't dislike it. It's mostly the thought of eating raw fish that keeps people away. That said, I've always made a point to take people to try good sushi with fresh, quality ingredients - none of that stuff from the deli in your local grocery store, as I've only ever found one grocery store with good sushi and they cater specifically to people who want fresh, high-quality ingredients and don't mind paying for it. |
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