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dankickyou said: Shoujo_Q said: dankickyou said: I just realized something. During the Bonobo sex explanation they showed scenes of Saki getting intimate with her mother and Maria. Are they implying that Saki already had sex with her mom and Maria? More like conduct that would be considered sexual (touching, etc) in our society would be considered normal in their society (since those that created the society realised that these acts reduced aggression). So heavy petting and incest? Me gusta More like skinship than heavy petting, in my mind |
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| The part that cover the theory about the rats being human that goes through genetic modification is because they're not the only one that changes. Over the course of 1000 years, a lot of animals evolved to their present form, such as the (real) Minoshiro, crabs, or the blimp dogs. The name they gave, Bakenezumi, seems to show that the society saw them as evolution of rats. Dessiato said: The door is already opened, so they're past that "I don't want anything to do with you" stage :DThey did not have access at that point. Now she's just politely telling them there's no service for underage kids. dankickyou said: Because picking each others' fleas looks ridiculous ^^;;So heavy petting and incest? Me gusta |
pilipino101 said: So... 1000 years from when this took place, people had PK. 1000 years before? Yes. It arose |
pilipino101 said: So... 1000 years from when this took place, people had PK. Did anyone thinking of To-aru Majutsu no Index / To-aru Kagaku no Railgun at that point? :D Yes, however, this world is more harsh and realistic (at point a man's psychology), although I can't understand why nuclear weapon couldn't destroy humanity whereas mere espers did it. |
Mexonizator said: Yes, however, this world is more harsh and realistic (at point a man's psychology), although I can't understand why nuclear weapon couldn't destroy humanity whereas mere espers did it. Whereas nuclear weapon kills indiscriminately, in this world MERE espers can kill by targeting only human on a massive scale. This is why they are even more dangerous and deadly to human race as a whole than nuclear weapon, which destroy the environment and can harm both the attackers as well as the defenders. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Mexonizator said: Yes, however, this world is more harsh and realistic (at point a man's psychology), although I can't understand why nuclear weapon couldn't destroy humanity whereas mere espers did it. Whereas nuclear weapon kills indiscriminately, in this world MERE espers can kill by targeting only human on a massive scale. This is why they are even more dangerous and deadly to human race as a whole than nuclear weapon, which destroy the environment and can harm both the attackers as well as the defenders. But isn't a man like that himself? It's not like there were no wars before, right? Humans constantly killed each other throghout the history and humanity didn't vanish. It appears that telekinesis' just more convenient, than nuclear weapon as it doesn't harm to the nature. And espers are no immortal and can be killed with usual weapon. |
Mexonizator said: But isn't a man like that himself? It's not like there were no wars before, right? Humans constantly killed each other throghout the history and humanity didn't vanish. But war can seriously reduce population, which is what happened in this world. Mexonizator said: And espers are no immortal and can be killed with usual weapon. Well, it is conceivable that the espers in this world can even stop or destroy the usual weapons. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Mexonizator said: But isn't a man like that himself? It's not like there were no wars before, right? Humans constantly killed each other throghout the history and humanity didn't vanish. But war can seriously reduce population, which is what happened in this world. It's difficult for me to believe it happened only due to appearing that strength. symbv said: Mexonizator said: And espers are no immortal and can be killed with usual weapon. Well, it is conceivable that the espers in this world can even stop or destroy the usual weapons. If they can see them. How an esper's going to destroy sniper's bullet or deadly poison or chemical weapon? As far as I remember, telekinesis doesn't include clairvoyance. |
Mexonizator said: It's difficult for me to believe it happened only due to appearing that strength. Well, I find myself hard to believe all the superhero having so much power that each one of them can destroy the whole Earth by himself, so you are not alone here. At the end to enjoy the story it requires the reader/watcher to accept the worldview. Mexonizator said: If they can see them. How an esper's going to destroy sniper's bullet or deadly poison or chemical weapon? As far as I remember, telekinesis doesn't include clairvoyance. Nobody said precisely what kind of power those espers 1000 years ago had though. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Great episode, but I have to do my best to keep up with everything. It's pretty hard to follow at times. |
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symbv said: Mexonizator said: It's difficult for me to believe it happened only due to appearing that strength. Well, I find myself hard to believe all the superhero having so much power that each one of them can destroy the whole Earth by himself, so you are not alone here. At the end to enjoy the story it requires the reader/watcher to accept the worldview. Mexonizator said: If they can see them. How an esper's going to destroy sniper's bullet or deadly poison or chemical weapon? As far as I remember, telekinesis doesn't include clairvoyance. Nobody said precisely what kind of power those espers 1000 years ago had though. It's not really telekinesis per se but there were hints that in the past, there were PK powerful enough to alter reality itself. Like a single PK erasing an entire city out of existence by mere thought. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
MasterMeNL said: Now this was an amazing episode! It seems that their 'enemies' aren't enemies after all but some sort of people instead. edwd2 said: 7.47 (scored by 4150 users), this is terribly underrated, I don't get why :( Perhaps most people still need to watch it or some people stalled/dropped it because the first 2 episodes were meh-meh and it seemed as if it were going to be an episodic show. I can't wait for more, this is getting really, really interesting! There are also people that won't score a show until they've seen the whole thing. |
| intense ep <.<; |
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Shoujo_Q said: dankickyou said: I just realized something. During the Bonobo sex explanation they showed scenes of Saki getting intimate with her mother and Maria. Are they implying that Saki already had sex with her mom and Maria? More like conduct that would be considered sexual (touching, etc) in our society would be considered normal in their society (since those that created the society realised that these acts reduced aggression). I was recently asked something about this anime but since i dropped it, i guess i'll try to get an answer for it here. So if Saki and her mother are intimate and this is considered normal in their world, would that mean that it would be normal for any other family member to be like that with Saki??? |
| can someone please explain this episode because I am an airhead that loves heavy dialogue/complicated animes but doesn't understand much (●´∀｀●) |
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AnimeMangaSuki said: can someone please explain this episode because I am an airhead that loves heavy dialogue/complicated animes but doesn't understand much (●´∀｀●) I'll put it simply 1. Psychic discovered 2. Psychics do bad things 3. Normal vs Psychics war 4. Population below 2% of what use to 5. Split into 4 groups(Slave empire, bandit, resistance, scientist) 6. Resistance destroy Slave empire 7. Scientist build new society 8. Scientist genetically modified and educate new kids 8(a) Death Feedback 8(b) Sex to relieve stress society 9. Scientist society "filter out" children who may turn bad. (episode 2, the guy who cheat) 9? I think children who can't use their powers well also get "filtered" That's pretty much the info that we were given. |
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AirStyles said: I'll put it simply 1. Psychic discovered 2. Psychics do bad things 3. Normal vs Psychics war 4. Population below 2% of what use to 5. Split into 4 groups(Slave empire, bandit, resistance, scientist) 6. Resistance destroy Slave empire 7. Scientist build new society 8. Scientist genetically modified and educate new kids 8(a) Death Feedback 8(b) Sex to relieve stress society 9. Scientist society "filter out" children who may turn bad. (episode 2, the guy who cheat) 9? I think children who can't use their powers well also get "filtered" That's pretty much the info that we were given. Some correction: 5. Split into 4 groups (Slave empires, hunter-gatherers (no power), bandits (with power), scientists ) 6. Bandits gone, then Slave Empires also gone 9. <It never says the current society is a "scientist society"> |
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| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: 9. <It never says the current society is a "scientist society"> !!!!!! |
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| ^ Don't forget when Shun asked if they were descendents of the scientists he never got the answer. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: ^ Don't forget when Shun asked if they were descendents of the scientists he never got the answer. Yeah... how did I forget that... It bothered me a lot when watching episode 4... |
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| It is so typical for MAL to try to find a whole in a show while they should have used that time to understand the show more. Anyway, where can watch the rest of 21eps now? |
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| at last they know the bloody history of their civilization. and beacuse of that, their Cantus got sealed?! damn!! looks like this will get more interesting.. more thrilling...!!!!! |
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| Forgive me if this has been answered already. I only skimmed through this thread. Why in the hell did they show memories of Saki's mother and young friend during Library's dude explanation of the importance of sex in their society? If they're implying what I think they're implying, that's horrible. Otherwise, terrible timing to have memories of your mother during such an explanation. An intense and incredible episode, by the way. |
Mormegil said: If they're implying what I think they're implying, that's HOT. fixed for you |
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| Damn. That was a quick reply. |
Mormegil said: Damn. That was a quick reply. I asked this question in the thread earlier and they is apparently skinship and petting going on between Saki and Maria and Saki and her Mom. |
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Mormegil said: Why in the hell did they show memories of Saki's mother and young friend during Library's dude explanation of the importance of sex in their society? If they're implying what I think they're implying, that's horrible. Otherwise, terrible timing to have memories of your mother during such an explanation. The culture and society is permissive regarding casual sex and underaged sex (to a certain extent) and parents educating kids about this is expected. So when the library mentioned about sex in society, Saki immediately recalled the past sex-related episodes earlier in her life. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Nidhoeggr said: KingYoshi said: This anime is just fucking weird, lol. Its decent so far, but its still just building the story and characters It sounds like you have an allergy against world-building and good story-telling. Your an idiot. I never said there was a problem with how this anime was being presented. I was just stating facts and my observation. I wasn't complaining that the story is still being built. You are just looking for any chance to hate. You seriously need to grow up. How many times do I have to tell you that you are a hater in the purist since. This just adds to it. Your pathetic. |
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| That half sentence thrown in seems to confirm a spoiler I've come across. I'm not pleased in the least... Anyways, the infodump was nice, things make more sense now. 4/5. |
| wow, slight mind fuck and very dialog heavy, all these new terms have gotten me slightly confused, time to check random curiosity for a good explanation of this |
| It was great to see an explanation of their world and history, damn that was actually pretty intense. |
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| So both of those monster types are "syndromes"? That means they are people... Oh, so that's what PK means... psychokinesis... 570 years 94 emperors... That's about one every 6 years... Some pretty horrific history there. The overreactions were probably because of their secluded lives up to that point. And what are those memories that Saki keeps having? That woman... with a baby in her arms... Who was she? Really just an illusion created by the librarymonster? And those rats created a figure when they died too... And the balloon dog appeared from within the rats. |
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symbv said: Mormegil said: Why in the hell did they show memories of Saki's mother and young friend during Library's dude explanation of the importance of sex in their society? If they're implying what I think they're implying, that's horrible. Otherwise, terrible timing to have memories of your mother during such an explanation. The culture and society is permissive regarding casual sex and underaged sex (to a certain extent) and parents educating kids about this is expected. So when the library mentioned about sex in society, Saki immediately recalled the past sex-related episodes earlier in her life. So, then, the mother had sex with her? Damn... And Saki had sex with her childhood friend too? |
Mormegil said: How come "parents educating kids" is equal to "have sex with"?symbv said: So, then, the mother had sex with her? Damn...Mormegil said: Why in the hell did they show memories of Saki's mother and young friend during Library's dude explanation of the importance of sex in their society? If they're implying what I think they're implying, that's horrible. Otherwise, terrible timing to have memories of your mother during such an explanation. The culture and society is permissive regarding casual sex and underaged sex (to a certain extent) and parents educating kids about this is expected. So when the library mentioned about sex in society, Saki immediately recalled the past sex-related episodes earlier in her life. And Saki had sex with her childhood friend too? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Wait. I stopped this anime after that episode where they played the game with rolling rocks.. Did it suddenly get interesting? I was falling asleep during the first few episodes. From what I've read on this forum, is it really worth watching? |
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symbv said: Mormegil said: How come "parents educating kids" is equal to "have sex with"?symbv said: So, then, the mother had sex with her? Damn...Mormegil said: Why in the hell did they show memories of Saki's mother and young friend during Library's dude explanation of the importance of sex in their society? If they're implying what I think they're implying, that's horrible. Otherwise, terrible timing to have memories of your mother during such an explanation. The culture and society is permissive regarding casual sex and underaged sex (to a certain extent) and parents educating kids about this is expected. So when the library mentioned about sex in society, Saki immediately recalled the past sex-related episodes earlier in her life. And Saki had sex with her childhood friend too? Okay. Well, that's much better then. I thought they were implying that her mother raped her or something. |
| and here I thought Haru and Yuki cries a lot this kid takes the cake. |
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| Deep episode, they explained a lot and just when things seem to settle down for a bit, things got serious like that 😧 Lots of dialog and things don't seem as confusing as before though^^ Must watch next episode! |
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Elfuun said: They build the world in this series so nicely that you can almost believe it is real. Pretty deep episode indeed, but I am still a bit confused. It seems that Saki is realizing who are the real bad guys, eh? By the way, that monk/father/whoever is very annoying, I hate this 'authoritative' sort of character. Wait...so what is it you're confused about? |
| ...And this is only the 4th episode. Loving this series. |
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