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Avicebrons said: The Topic was the same why wouldn't you discuss it, you started nit picking on semantics so instead of making the argument a "No U" situation I clarified even further.dabdabgoose said: You clearly ignored the points I made earlier when I even explained using the map just so you can argue semantics, a classic Red Herring. If your not going to address it and just try and play games it's obvious I was correct in taking you for someone with a disingenuous argument aka a troll. I'm not saying there are not criticisms to be had of this show but yours are literally on the strongest points of the show, given you have watched nearly a 1000 animes on your list I would assume you can work out what point your trying to come across. You can dismiss me as a troll all you want. But that just proves the point made earlier. The reason I didn't address the things you posted before, like the map and stuff, is because you were adding stuff on top of what we were already discussing. I'm not going to start discussing new things if we haven't even finished talking about the previous things. If you wanted to discuss that afterwards then I would've been 100% fine with it. But it's obvious we should take one thing at a time. Because it seemed like you just didn't have a valid response to what I said and thus you changed the goalpost by adding in new stuff to talk about. In fact, I took that as you ignoring my points. I mean even now you didn't really reply to anything said, you just basically replied "lol troll". And if world building is this show's strongest point...Then that just tells me this show doesn't have a lot going for it. This is a Red Herring and you know it. |
dabdabgoose said: Avicebrons said: The Topic was the same why wouldn't you discuss it, you started nit picking on semantics so instead of making the argument a "No U" situation I clarified even further.You can dismiss me as a troll all you want. But that just proves the point made earlier. The reason I didn't address the things you posted before, like the map and stuff, is because you were adding stuff on top of what we were already discussing. I'm not going to start discussing new things if we haven't even finished talking about the previous things. If you wanted to discuss that afterwards then I would've been 100% fine with it. But it's obvious we should take one thing at a time. Because it seemed like you just didn't have a valid response to what I said and thus you changed the goalpost by adding in new stuff to talk about. In fact, I took that as you ignoring my points. I mean even now you didn't really reply to anything said, you just basically replied "lol troll". And if world building is this show's strongest point...Then that just tells me this show doesn't have a lot going for it. This is a Red Herring and you know it. We were talking about specific examples you brought up. And then before even going anywhere with them, you bring up new examples. That makes it obvious that you would never accept anything and just keep shifting the goalpost with new examples no matter what I respond. So it's obvious I would ignore them until we've actually reached the conclusion on the current ones. I've had way too many arguments on MAL to know when someone is doing it. And in your case, it was so obvious, so stop pretending like you didn't do it. |
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| @dabdabgoose The show isn't a 3rd person perspective, it's a POV of rudeus life, the only people who get a POV are those related to his story, explaining the kingdom isn't fully relevent to his story and he hasn't been there long enough for you to get the entricate details. Why am I not surprised to hear sugarcoating from a guy with Rudeus as an avatar and 10/10 to this anime. Intricate details? Seriously? We hardly learned the simplest things about the kingdom and it seems like the next episode will take us elsewhere. Are you saying the sloppy worldbuilding has to be excused because it isn't in a 3rd person perspective? My point was, the show rather spend time on bullshit and fanservice, rather than actual worldbuilding. And this isn't happening for the first time!Complain about the Roxy figure all you like it's more plot relevent then the pretty much anything else in the story, I mean, I also heard why the elf-slut does what she does. Doesn't make her "plot out of your average hentai" any less ludicrous. Don't hide behind bad writing and world building and just say you don't like it, atleast you will be honest. |
Avicebrons said: It's not shifting the goal posts, that would be adding unnecessary information to try make that point stronger, I didn't do that, I added information relevent to the topic at hand and then because it wasn't the first thing I said and added more that WAS relevent to the topic you have ignored it completely and stuck to only the original points I made.dabdabgoose said: The Topic was the same why wouldn't you discuss it, you started nit picking on semantics so instead of making the argument a "No U" situation I clarified even further. This is a Red Herring and you know it. We were talking about specific examples you brought up. And then before even going anywhere with them, you bring up new examples. That makes it obvious that you would never accept anything and just keep shifting the goalpost with new examples no matter what I respond. So it's obvious I would ignore them until we've actually reached the conclusion on the current ones. I've had way too many arguments on MAL to know when someone is doing it. And in your case, it was so obvious, so stop pretending like you didn't do it. Had I changed the subject completely you would have a point but I didn't thats why I'm saying if your not going to address it then what is the point this, it's a disingenuous argument at this point. Sigmar-Unberogen said: It's like saying a song of ice and fire has shitty world building because half of Essos has very minor information even though the story will never go there, Rudeus is traveling from place to place what relavency to the story is there to know about it(It would be nice but it's not important)you call the figurine shitty fan service but it results in Rudeus getting out of that predicament and allowing him to forge a relationship with the 3rd prince.@dabdabgoose The show isn't a 3rd person perspective, it's a POV of rudeus life, the only people who get a POV are those related to his story, explaining the kingdom isn't fully relevent to his story and he hasn't been there long enough for you to get the entricate details. Why am I not surprised to hear sugarcoating from a guy with Rudeus as an avatar and 10/10 to this anime. Intricate details? Seriously? We hardly learned the simplest things about the kingdom and it seems like the next episode will take us elsewhere. Are you saying the sloppy worldbuilding has to be excused because it isn't in a 3rd person perspective? My point was, the show rather spend time on bullshit and fanservice, rather than actual worldbuilding. And this isn't happening for the first time!Complain about the Roxy figure all you like it's more plot relevent then the pretty much anything else in the story, I mean, I also heard why the elf-slut does what she does. Doesn't make her "plot out of your average hentai" any less ludicrous. Don't hide behind bad writing and world building and just say you don't like it, atleast you will be honest. You couldn't even work out why it was there yet your complaining about the shitty writing, I mean atleast understand what each scene means before you can say it. |
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dabdabgoose said: Yes. That's what we call fan service and shitty writingyou call the figurine shitty fan service but it results in Rudeus getting out of that predicament and allowing him to forge a relationship with the 3rd prince. dabdabgoose said: Avicebrons said: It's not shifting the goal posts, that would be adding unnecessary information to try make that point stronger, I didn't do that, I added information relevent to the topic at hand and then because it wasn't the first thing I said and added more that WAS relevent to the topic you have ignored it completely and stuck to only the original points I made.We were talking about specific examples you brought up. And then before even going anywhere with them, you bring up new examples. That makes it obvious that you would never accept anything and just keep shifting the goalpost with new examples no matter what I respond. So it's obvious I would ignore them until we've actually reached the conclusion on the current ones. I've had way too many arguments on MAL to know when someone is doing it. And in your case, it was so obvious, so stop pretending like you didn't do it. Had I changed the subject completely you would have a point but I didn't thats why I'm saying if your not going to address it then what is the point this, it's a disingenuous argument at this point. You didn't even reply to literally anything I said and only added in new examples. That I would say is going from discussing the examples you brought up to the new examples. You actually ignored literally everything I said, which funnily enough, you now complain about me doing. Despite even as you complained about me ignoring you, you in that very moment ignored me. It's just hypocritical. But regardless it doesn't matter even if I would respond to what you posted. The map is comically dumb and the language thing is nothing new or impressive. But it doesn't matter cause as you yourself have proven, you are obviously intent on dismissing anyone who so much as criticize MT and just call them a "troll". |
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| @Avicebrons I did reply to them though, but I also added a disclaimer in each post saying your ignoring the rest of my points on that subject. You continue to argue those original points and ignore the rest(why should I then reply to yours?) I want a discussion here, if you have some Valid criticims I would like to hear it but ignoring it all serves no one and it's pointless to continue. |
| @Avicebrons message=65072907] dabdabgoose said: you call the figurine shitty fan service but it results in Rudeus getting out of that predicament and allowing him to forge a relationship with the 3rd prince. Yes. That's what we call fan service and shitty writing @dabdabgoose It's like saying a song of ice and fire has shitty world building because half of Essos has very minor information even though the story will never go there, Rudeus is traveling from place to place what relavency to the story is there to know about it. You couldn't even work out why it was there yet your complaining about the shitty writing, I mean atleast understand what each scene means before you can say it. We have close to 0 info regarding lands Rudy travels. I wouldn't care too much about "what lies far beyond the horizon" if "what lies before the eyes" was explained better! It's a poor writing and shitty worldbuilding when the world Rudy sees with his own eyes is just an image - a beautiful picture of fictional cities. That's it - a slideshow! If figurines play a major part in the future, sorry but I'm not discussing LN here, I'm judging what I see. Knowing the source is clouding your judgment when it comes to discussing the anime. |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: The thing is though this is a POV story, you can realise this pretty quickly as he also is the narrator and because of that it doesn't need to explore things completely unrelated to Rudeus's travel, what point would it serve? the main Goal for him is to get to Fittoa at this point.I would call GOT shitty writing if otherhalf of Essos - the part where action ACTUALLY takes place - ALSO had very minor information! Such a ludicrous comparison as if to imply I'm nitpicking or something? If GOT is half-meat half-bone chicken, then Mushoku is just a hollow bone-piece with remnant of meat here and there. If it was a 3rd person story like GoT where there is no main character but many, I would agree it would be terrible world building, but POV stories require a different setting. We have close to 0 info regarding lands Rudy travels. I wouldn't care too much about "what lies far beyond the horizon" if "what lies before the eyes" was explained better! It's a poor writing and shitty worldbuilding when the world Rudy sees with his own eyes is just an image - a beautiful picture of fictional cities. That's it - a slideshow! It shows what it can given the perspective, we get to learn about each area as he travels through them, given he wouldn't of even gone to Shirone if it wasn't for Hitogami(Man-god) it's not exactly a place intended for him to stay long, as opposed to the Demon continent where he spent a year traveling learning the harshness of the area from how dry and hot it is and how dangerous the monsters there are to the poor food selection, these are things intertwined with his experience, it's a personalised world build rather then a general one. This is why Episode 16 was soo good, because we the audience where on Rudeus POV and not Pauls making the argument more complex then on the surface. We know what Rudeus knows apart from a bit of extra POV from other main characters such as Roxy and that one time with Paul(the goblin slayer OVA might be the first 3rd person view or it might focus from Eris POV). The Point is what Rudeus can know about is explained as much as plot relevancy allows and considering he has been traveling for most of this season you get to see it. If figurines play a major part in the future, sorry but I'm not discussing LN here, I'm judging what I see. Knowing the source is clouding your judgment when it comes to discussing the anime. Taking away the future and spoilers even from what we know it has quite significant plot importance, we already knew that it reached Roxy before the mana calamity and figures are being used to Help Ruijerds reputation, it's an Isekai thing from Anime culture(atleast the Isekai part is important here) and considering Rudeus is the only one that makes them, it gives some perspective why there might be someone who is infatuated by it would it not?When you have a POV style series what can you honestly expect from a world view from a writing direction, because it will drag on if it's not relevant to the character. |
dabdabgoose said: Sigmar-Unberogen said: The thing is though this is a POV story, you can realise this pretty quickly as he also is the narrator and because of that it doesn't need to explore things completely unrelated to Rudeus's travel, what point would it serve? the main Goal for him is to get to Fittoa at this point.I would call GOT shitty writing if otherhalf of Essos - the part where action ACTUALLY takes place - ALSO had very minor information! Such a ludicrous comparison as if to imply I'm nitpicking or something? If GOT is half-meat half-bone chicken, then Mushoku is just a hollow bone-piece with remnant of meat here and there. If it was a 3rd person story like GoT where there is no main character but many, I would agree it would be terrible world building, but POV stories require a different setting. We have close to 0 info regarding lands Rudy travels. I wouldn't care too much about "what lies far beyond the horizon" if "what lies before the eyes" was explained better! It's a poor writing and shitty worldbuilding when the world Rudy sees with his own eyes is just an image - a beautiful picture of fictional cities. That's it - a slideshow! It shows what it can given the perspective, we get to learn about each area as he travels through them, given he wouldn't of even gone to Shirone if it wasn't for Hitogami(Man-god) it's not exactly a place intended for him to stay long, as opposed to the Demon continent where he spent a year traveling learning the harshness of the area from how dry and hot it is and how dangerous the monsters there are to the poor food selection, these are things intertwined with his experience, it's a personalised world build rather then a general one. This is why Episode 16 was soo good, because we the audience where on Rudeus POV and not Pauls making the argument more complex then on the surface. We know what Rudeus knows apart from a bit of extra POV from other main characters such as Roxy and that one time with Paul(the goblin slayer OVA might be the first 3rd person view or it might focus from Eris POV). The Point is what Rudeus can know about is explained as much as plot relevancy allows and considering he has been traveling for most of this season you get to see it. If figurines play a major part in the future, sorry but I'm not discussing LN here, I'm judging what I see. Knowing the source is clouding your judgment when it comes to discussing the anime. Taking away the future and spoilers even from what we know it has quite significant plot importance, we already knew that it reached Roxy before the mana calamity and figures are being used to Help Ruijerds reputation, it's an Isekai thing from Anime culture(atleast the Isekai part is important here) and considering Rudeus is the only one that makes them, it gives some perspective why there might be someone who is infatuated by it would it not?When you have a POV style series what can you honestly expect from a world view from a writing direction, because it will drag on if it's not relevant to the character. With all this considered, how can anyone say this show has amazing worldbuilding then? All I read here is you telling me how worldbuilding is given little attention, and is rather insignificant because of limitations applied to FPV. In other words, since the story is not told in 3rd person, it's virtually impossible to explore the world the way GOT does. So, tell me how you define a good worldbuilding then? Once again, I'm not talking about LN. |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: It's personalised not General world building that's what makes it good world building in it's own right. You get to see his narration intertwined with the world as he learns it, He learns of the other languages which is part of it well before he needs to use it and explains how say for example battle god language is similar to human language unlike the demon language which you wouldn't really know if you heard it all because it's just all just a different language from our perspective.With all this considered, how can anyone say this show has amazing worldbuilding then? All I read here is you telling me how worldbuilding is given little attention, and is rather insignificant because of limitations applied to FPV. In other words, since the story is not told in 3rd person, it's virtually impossible to explore the world the way GOT does. So, tell me how you define a good worldbuilding then? Once again, I'm not talking about LN. With the Migurd Tribe you learn that they speak telepathy and that certain folk can actually speak demon language that you wouldn't of known if it was general since they keep to themselves. you get first hand experience of how the Superd tribe is treated compared to the other races due to the history of the Laplace war with the cursed Spears (which then relates to the figurines in a way for Rudeus to improve their reputation), The daily life of the demon continent comes with narration commentary on how much of a struggle it is compared to the Human world(in Rudeus case the central continent) eating what looks like insects and the like as compared to conventional farm animals because they don't exist there. There is more obviously but to not drag on, to complain about the World building wouldn't be relevant without a complaint about the entire POV aspect first because it's intertwined, but that is how the story is told it's ideal for high detail character based stories that can work in a immersive way on the world they see. Your criticisms are true if it was a 3rd person story but you have to look at world building different when it's a different perspective because your creating an inapplicable situation as using the same standard for both isn't possible. That's not to say it's not great world building, it's different and from this perspective I don't see much to fault from this series, they show what needs to be shown and add some detail from the First person perspective atleast and move on the story. The OPs at the start of episodes give that little bit more perspective of each area then what you wouldn't normally get just from the POV view as well so it's not like they don't push it as far as they can. |
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Tylaen said: What about the Anime suggests it's not in first person though? there are elements that are not, but the majority is clearly so.It's absolutely hilarious how the LN's first-person perspective should somehow dictate how we view the adaption, especially given the adaptions method of storytelling isn't unlike a lot of shows yet is the criticisms are still somehow inapplicable cuz source material. Cuz perspective...despite so, so many regular shows have overcome these hurdles while never having to fall back on poor excuse of "perspective". What a riot. |
dabdabgoose said: You're coming at an argument I didn't make, one you wish to argue against fairly badly as I see it.Tylaen said: What about the Anime suggests it's not in first person though? there are elements that are not, but the majority is clearly so.It's absolutely hilarious how the LN's first-person perspective should somehow dictate how we view the adaption, especially given the adaptions method of storytelling isn't unlike a lot of shows yet is the criticisms are still somehow inapplicable cuz source material. Cuz perspective...despite so, so many regular shows have overcome these hurdles while never having to fall back on poor excuse of "perspective". What a riot. |
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Tylaen said: dabdabgoose said: You're coming at an argument I didn't make, one you wish to argue against fairly badly as I see it.What about the Anime suggests it's not in first person though? there are elements that are not, but the majority is clearly so. Without elaborating your point as expected from you though of course. |
dabdabgoose said: The point is there in the post you replied to. Read it again if you have to, it's not a very elaborate or hard to understand one, and I don't feel like re-wording myself for one who insists on forcing an argument about shit I haven't said or engage in an argument on a point I'm not contesting.Tylaen said: You're coming at an argument I didn't make, one you wish to argue against fairly badly as I see it. Without elaborating your point as expected from you though of course. I guess it would be really funny if I told you I haven't even read the LN yet because I didn't really need to, to understand it's a POV story. Local MT stan continues to go on about a point I didn't make, so fiery in his conviction to argue this one point as if his life depended on it despite no one actually saying otherwise. |
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| One by one we've been gradually learning what happened to the teleported members of Rudeus' family. We've now found out about Paul, Norn, Aisha and Lilya, so only Zenith's whereabouts are unknown. Apart from them though we still do not know what happened to Sylphie, Ghislaine and the rest of Eris' family (beside her grandpa). This was a nice and rather funny episode. The third prince is an OP otaku, both he and his repulsive brother were shipped away, apparently by the king or queen -they got equal punishment although Zanoba just broke the arm of Pax, wtf?- and Aisha appears to be much smarter than most thought, including her own mother. She will make a fine maid; maybe, who knows, she might be a battle maid :) The next episode is called Turning Point 2, which sounds quite ominous. As far as I recall the end of Turning Point 1 featured the mass teleportation. So I suppose something similarly major is going to happen in the next episode. |
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FocusIssues said: Tylaen said: The point is there in the post you replied to. Read it again if you have to, it's not a very elaborate or hard to understand one, and I don't feel like re-wording myself for one who insists on forcing an argument about shit I haven't said or engage in an argument on a point I'm not contesting. Local MT stan continues to go on about a point I didn't make, so fiery in his conviction to argue this one point as if his life depended on it despite no one actually saying otherwise. I see you on all kinds of message boards ragging on MT. That's fair. You don't like it. But why so much energy in telling the world so? You don't have to watch it. It's popular and your opinion isn't going to change that. It would be a more productive use of your energy to watch what you enjoy and let others watch what they enjoy. Wait...isn't that the point of this Website? Stating your Opinion on Anime and why you love/hate Show's? By your Logic nothing is ever worth talking about xD You're basically saying: "You don't like it? Great, keep it to yourself" Which is really weird consedering you're were talking about "beeing more productive" Here I go: I think it's pretty lame that everytime Rudy faces a problem a random plot-device (like Zanoba) is written into the Show. I get it. It's a power Fantasy and Rudy is bound to be pretty succesful (and horny) in everything he does. Still. I don't like this writing Style. And I think that is fair to say? I might be horrible unproductive right here and now. But Im on MaL. That's what this is for... |
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FocusIssues said: Merve2Love said: Wait...isn't that the point of this Website? Stating your Opinion on Anime and why you love/hate Show's? By your Logic nothing is ever worth talking about xD You're basically saying: "You don't like it? Great, keep it to yourself" Which is really weird consedering you're were talking about "beeing more productive" Here I go: I think it's pretty lame that everytime Rudy faces a problem a random plot-device (like Zanoba) is written into the Show. I get it. It's a power Fantasy and Rudy is bound to be pretty succesful (and horny) in everything he does. Still. I don't like this writing Style. And I think that is fair to say? I might be horrible unproductive right here and now. But Im on MaL. That's what this is for... I don't watch anime I don't like. I feel it is a waste of my time. It's called dropping the anime, which I think most of the people complaining should do if they hate it so much. Now, I can argue where I think the story is less than stellar. I don't like the change in narrators. I would have preferred a show-don't-tell approach and let Rudy's actions be the focus of the story. This will be an issue of mine probably in episode 22. That being said, the characterization is consistent and the protagonist is morally complex, which I find compelling and more grounded. Do I feel uncomfortable with certain scenes? Honestly, no, because it is part of the protagonist's journey. It is clear that he is trying to live life differently and not always succeeding, which is realistic and engaging. It makes the viewer/reader want to see if he can succeed by the end of the story. One of the advantages of anime is that you can deal with issues that are real but not compatible with live-action stories. Koi Kaze was one such story that really touched me. Now I wouldn't suggest this anime to my 13 year old but that's fine. She can watch Fairy Tale or JJK. There is very little in the way of anime that serves the more mature audience and this one of the few. Odd Taxi was another. I like this development. Ye, nice^^ We have different opinions. That's fine. But that was never my point. I just feel by you saying "Drop it, don't watch it" you're defeating the purpose of this Website. That's all Im saying. Im not even arguing about the Show at this point xD I just didn't understand why you couldn't do the same: Accepting other Opinions on this particular Show instead of just wanting everybody to stop criticizing. |
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Tylaen said: Sigmar-Unberogen said: Don't worry about it. This god character explains why he never had to do anything, so this underwhelming episode is brought to you by prophecy! Huzzah. It was so underwhelming to see how effortlessly Rudy got free. The otaku prince was cringe in human form. The whole drama and tension annihilated by retarded otaku jokes... What makes you so sure that's a good thing for him, tho? What if Rudy having an ''easy time'' is actually a bad thing, storywise? And what makes you so sure he isnt lying? The god character doesn't seem like a very trustworthy character to me. If Rudy didnt so easily do what others tell him to do, the story would be much more interesting.. |
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Elinchayiel said: In relation to what you’re replying to, Rudy doesn’t matter because we were conversing on a meta level. Whether it is “good for him” is very unrelated.Tylaen said: Don't worry about it. This god character explains why he never had to do anything, so this underwhelming episode is brought to you by prophecy! Huzzah. What makes you so sure that's a good thing for him, tho? What if Rudy having an ''easy time'' is actually a bad thing, storywise? And what makes you so sure he isnt lying? The god character doesn't seem like a very trustworthy character to me. If Rudy didnt so easily do what others tell him to do, the story would be much more interesting.. |
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Johnny00 said: Avicebrons said: The top reviews for MT S1 is 3/10, 4/10, 1/10 and 6/10. So like you yourself said, the reviews speak for themselves. Why would any of these people watch S2. Obviously most of the people who watch S2 are the ones that actually liked S1. Lol, couldn't have said it better myself. All I see is you and many other crying about how well reviewed MT is with a score of 8.66 Keep giving it your best. The anime is still going to continue being a success and getting more seasons and being a Top Anime on MAL. Stay salty. I honestly couldn't care less what the score of a certain anime is on MAL. I don't base my opinion on such shallow things. Although based on your replies, you seem more upset than pretty much anyone on here. So I have to say, calm down, take a breath, it's just an anime. Like whatever you want and don't let others enjoyment of it affect you. |
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| Aisha is a good kid but where is she and Lilia going to go now? Back to Paul probably. And I like Zanoba lol he was seriously so close to killing his own brother. |
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yLewahoy said: Aisha is much cooler, funnier and smarter than Norn! I wanted her to continue the adventure with Rudeus, but it would be very difficult for that to happen, as it would be too risky. I hope Rudeus doesn't fall into traps again, otherwise it will get very repetitive and irritating. I really want him to get stronger and do more relevant things. The show has just not yet given Norn the proper treatment, her development later won will be truly warming to see. Meanwhile the adaptation really brought the feels this episode, the OST was exceptional here, it played at the perfect moments, twice it tug on my heart, truly well done! Seeing Zanoba adapted was very funny, for everyone that is liking this... what a future this adaptation has. |
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Playcool said: yLewahoy said: Aisha is much cooler, funnier and smarter than Norn! I wanted her to continue the adventure with Rudeus, but it would be very difficult for that to happen, as it would be too risky. I hope Rudeus doesn't fall into traps again, otherwise it will get very repetitive and irritating. I really want him to get stronger and do more relevant things. The show has just not yet given Norn the proper treatment, her development later won will be truly warming to see. Meanwhile the adaptation really brought the feels this episode, the OST was exceptional here, it played at the perfect moments, twice it tug on my heart, truly well done! Seeing Zanoba adapted was very funny, for everyone that is liking this... what a future this adaptation has. Hopefully in the future they really focus more on Norn, because to me she seemed like a very boring character. |
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yLewahoy said: Playcool said: The show has just not yet given Norn the proper treatment, her development later won will be truly warming to see. Meanwhile the adaptation really brought the feels this episode, the OST was exceptional here, it played at the perfect moments, twice it tug on my heart, truly well done! Seeing Zanoba adapted was very funny, for everyone that is liking this... what a future this adaptation has. Hopefully in the future they really focus more on Norn, because to me she seemed like a very boring character. There is a time and place for everything, the Norn you will see now will grow up, still holding on these complicated feelings, they wont go away just cuz a few years passed, so you can imagine the development going from there, to something different, will be worth it by itself. The writer knows how to treat its characters, don't you worry. People will look back to this Norn and find it cute eventually. |
PlaycoolDec 5, 2021 4:16 PM
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Playcool said: yLewahoy said: Hopefully in the future they really focus more on Norn, because to me she seemed like a very boring character. There is a time and place for everything, the Norn you will see now will grow up, still holding on these complicated feelings, they wont go away just cuz a few years passed, so you can imagine the development going from there, to something different, will be worth it by itself. The writer knows how to treat its characters, don't you worry. People will look back to this Norn and find it cute eventually. You are reading the Light Novel right? If so, could you tell me if you like it? My friends tell me that Light Novel is very tiring and boring, but I have never read one to draw my own conclusions. I'm thinking about reading the Mushoku's Light Novel, so I want to know if people think it's good. |
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yLewahoy said: Playcool said: There is a time and place for everything, the Norn you will see now will grow up, still holding on these complicated feelings, they wont go away just cuz a few years passed, so you can imagine the development going from there, to something different, will be worth it by itself. The writer knows how to treat its characters, don't you worry. People will look back to this Norn and find it cute eventually. You are reading the Light Novel right? If so, could you tell me if you like it? My friends tell me that Light Novel is very tiring and boring, but I have never read one to draw my own conclusions. I'm thinking about reading the Mushoku's Light Novel, so I want to know if people think it's good. Give LN volume 1 a go, if that volume doesn't grab you and you are no fancying reading volume 2 either, drop it for now and go with either anime or manga, or both. |
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Playcool said: yLewahoy said: You are reading the Light Novel right? If so, could you tell me if you like it? My friends tell me that Light Novel is very tiring and boring, but I have never read one to draw my own conclusions. I'm thinking about reading the Mushoku's Light Novel, so I want to know if people think it's good. Give LN volume 1 a go, if that volume doesn't grab you and you are no fancying reading volume 2 either, drop it for now and go with either anime or manga, or both. Ok, when I finish the anime I will go to the manga, and when I read all the chapters the manga has, I will go to Light Novel and I will do that. |
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| This is a good episode for sure. I quite liked Zanoba's character, I have a thing for those kind of crackheads, but he isn't all that tbf so... Anyway, things got really sweet at the end. I liked Aisha and Lilia being here to make things nicer just a bit. So overall good stuff. |
| lilia's insticts kicking INN while that weirdass teleportation light were coming towards them as she just held aisha close. im really worried about zenith and sylph now fuckk rudeus got teleported with elis, lilia with aisha and paul with norn. pretty sure zenith and sylph weren't holding each other when teleporting so they're possibly alone? god i hope they're okay zanona guy was op as fuckk too bad he's an otaku lmao that ending with aisha :]] with how smart she is, its not surprising that she already knew that kennel-san is rudeus |
| Ooo kind of a Lilia's POV in the beginning this time :o Aisha and Lilia's mother and daughter relationship is so cute but man got tortured after just asking a simple question about Roxy's presence :(. Zanoba looks like pax but a lot skinnier but he sure does act like an actual otaku with those figures talk xD, anyways the figure design looks cool really cool and I like how Zanoba just showcasing the whole aspect with and without clothing of one single Roxy figure xD I really wanna get this merchandise :P Oh great Ruby actually forward his explanation that made Zanoba explode his head xD Damn the guards gave them a request to rescue their families to get Rudy out hopefully. Kind of worried if it will take a long time to do so because where are the families located in hostage specifically :o? Ah yes Zanoba back with his otaku behavior yet again, I need to exchange figures with him later on if he's ever still alive. LMFAO Zanoba dragging Pax <- while he's naked is the most hilarious thing I've seen but I get that he wants to achieve his goal to become Rudy's apprentice and damn that embarrassment continues but in a aggressive way xD Oh my it's beautiful how everyone's family are back, feels like a happy reunion for all of them. LMFAOO Lilia just gave Rudy some panties but still I don't know what's the great deal of giving him a panties. Honestly, I'm missing Sylphie, never get to see her a lot :c and awh Lilia treating Rudy like a step-mom :3!~ Ooh Aisha going on a journey with Rudy? I'm in because she better learn some new ability as she's already grown becoming a genius and awh Aisha is too adorable it's giving some sweet vibes >c< and I'm looking forward when this will happen but got hella shocked however I knew that Aisha knows about Rudy to be her brother after all. Ah yes, love how it ends with Zanoba screaming for Rudy's presence, what a true otaku would do! |
| Wow, this was the smartest ad ever -- I didn't even realize it was lowkey a shoutout to their new merch. Indeed it's cool that she has three arms lmao. But also did Zanoba really need to sell his guard when he could have threatened his way into a good time? Looks like the whole line simps for her though. Also Aisha waving goodbye was so cute. Made my eyes water a little. I assume the whole growing into a voluptuous woman was her attempt to test how creepy he is -- which...in some regards... if possible he's met the bare minimum of not simping over his sister. Tbh, so far she seems like the better of the two sisters although I guess grief is handled differently (i.e. Aisha never saw him "bullying" their dad). Also on a tangent, I know this isn't intentional but with the magenta/reddish hair-- when Aisha stands next to Eris -- in some warped way she looks like she could have been Eris's and Rudy's offspring Does this mean Rudeus's mom is currently all alone if not dead from the split? Mode11 said: -- Yeah this was the weirdest fucking plothole-- that I was wondering about too. Either she also carries it on her person like her most prized possession... or... I don't know really. It seems like a clunky item to carry. But also weird to think she could have probably bought her freedom from Pax by just telling him it's Roxy's.How did Lilya manage to gave the gift to Rudeus. From the start they have nothing Lilya and her daughter have been teleported and the pantsu looks like it's still in their home.. Idk |
| The whole rudeus being captured and used as a bait is different from what i read in the manga , it was a sneaking scene to the casle to save aicha and lilia , so fun chapter i recomend it so much , chapter 43-44 maybe |
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| The figurine guy was actually hilarious, I love this scene XD and everything ended well, Aisha knew he was her brother ahaha, definitely a great episode, if only all of them were like that |
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| Zanoba being strong was kinda funny and epic at the same time. He's weird but at least he isn't hurting anyone unlike his awful brother Pax. |
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Nurguburu said: Zanoba being strong was kinda funny and epic at the same time. He's weird but at least he isn't hurting anyone unlike his awful brother Pax. Well... except tearing his younger brother's head off at a younger age. That might have stung a little bit I'd imagine. But yeah, Pax definitely is scummier while Zanoba's more out-of-control, still enjoyed him though here lol. |
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