Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka? Episode 24 Discussion

Jul 4, 2021 7:34 PM

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love the anime 9/10 i know i guve it too many point cuz if i really take into account the HORRIBLE animation in some episodes it shoukc be a 8/10 but for me it more only for the originality on the characters motives... yeah, the reason they do the things for the main cast (not the humans ) is gold.
For our beautiful spider her journey is NOT CUZ SHE WANTS TO BE A HERO, no no no, first was main survival, later cuz she was bored, later cuz she got pride and that make her see everything as a way to upgrade her skills, then she fight demon lord and is on SURVIVAL mode again... and the last part is the epitome of "i didnt ask for this" ... she joining the heros hahzhzhzha was another mistake for her... sooooo goood

Love the main cast and the plot, is so good in the LN is even better... go read it, so good 10/10
Anime=8/10
Light novel =10/10
Overall = 9/10
Im gonna miss my spider fridays so much, best anime of that season hands down (plot wise) , sometimes people need to evercome their obsession with extremellh well animated animes just to enjoy good rides

Jul 4, 2021 8:06 PM

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Ah, yes, one week delay to see a wacky 2d Ariel, for once and for all. That's good, very-very good. Finally the story with such a different timeline comes in one picture. Even though the conclusion for Shun and his party still unresolved. That's the only issue i get from this final. Seriously, why cut there completely? ffs, smh. However, overall, its still got a good stopping point, unexpectedly, Wakaba got a chance to meet with Shun and her sensei. So, if there's a chance for a next season, that point obviously good to start another continuations.

Honest score, it will be very bad with all of those horrible kind of animations, and art. Even Kumoko's part unexpectedly become more obnoxious on this one. Is it because the movement got more complex with the additional of human body? I dunno. Still, the story wise actually almost perfect. The oped unexpectedly so good on my hearing. Then Aoi Yuuki is so perfect to carrying the show, alone.

Overall score:
Demonical girl Ariel/ Pottimas cyborg elf with a lot of clones/ wacky not-so-little divine spider.

That's it all for me, and moving on....

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Jul 4, 2021 8:07 PM

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I’m glad they took extra time to finish this episode, while the animation and cgi was still not so great at parts, it was better than the previous few episodes. As for the story itself tho, wow, so much happened, Kumoko became a babe, Potimas has robot doubles, and we finally got to see how Kumoko joined forces with Ariel, really awesome stuff, I really enjoyed it even with the subpar animation.

Overall, I really enjoyed this anime, a lot more than I thought I would going in. Unlike most people, I enjoyed the human parts of the story a lot, sure they weren’t as good as the Kumo stuff but it got progressively better as it went on and it ended up being very important to the story, so I really appreciate it being included. Both OPs and EDs were really good, me and my friend jam to them when we’re gaming together often now lol.

I’m gonna miss the laugh riot that is Kumoko, as well as some of my other favorite characters, truly didn’t expect this to be as great as it ended up being, even with the choppy animation and cgi near the end. I’m 100% down for a season 2!

Jul 4, 2021 9:11 PM

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Iroha_Pixie said:
Oi oi oi!!!!
This is HORRIBLE. Does that mean there will be no more spider going forward? Its all a bunch a people???????? WHY does she have to take a human form?? Also, that was anti climactic end.

FUCK THIS SHIT.
8/10 >>>>>>>6/10

Lol, my score dropped form 8 to 6 too.

Jul 4, 2021 10:17 PM

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OrdinaryCereal said:

jarvis_kjellberg said:

yes. Ariels drastic change of personality is the proof of it and Ariel clearly said that she doesnt want to fight kumoko anymore cause Ariels mergerd with kumokos personality which was in charge of the body.

And idk i was reallly hoping that kumo evolved into ariel when i frist saw ariel's debut but i mean it's not like i don't like kumo's human form but just ariel's my fav chara lmao

I understand how you feel. I personally like kumokos character more though...

Jul 5, 2021 6:06 PM

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It was worth it watching 24 episodes just to see kumoko's human form WORTH IT

I enjoyed the show overall wish that the animation is a bit better but anyway still a 7 out of 10.........

Jul 5, 2021 8:28 PM

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HagePotPotato said:
alright alright

that explains why she was working with the demon lord as the white woman. doesn't explain at all why she looked like a zombie (eyes closed, no speaking) for almost the whole season though

Unfortunately we didn't get far enough to fully cover that. While Wakaba/Kumoko loves to talk to herself and her parallel minds, outwardly she is very introverted and anti-social unless drunk or agitated. Something we saw with her in the scenes back in Japan. Also spending years as a spider and not being able to speak to actual people regularly has set her human social interaction skills back even further.

The real secret behind her and why she of of special interest to "D" won't be revealed until much later.

MadVandalJul 5, 2021 8:33 PM

Jul 5, 2021 9:52 PM

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I started watching the show two days ago and I finished today. I love Kumoko with all my heart and pay more attention to her fighting random beasts than I do when the show goes back to Schlain.

and FINALLY the Arachne form! I wasn't sure if they were going to show it at all. In reality, we have seen parts of her this whole time like we did in episode 6. Love this show and I look forward to season two.

Regarding the animation I love the fight scenes! It seemed a bit odd to me to see CGI mixed in, but it worked.

Jul 5, 2021 11:35 PM

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Lmao so theyre the real Heroes of the story? i wonder what will happen to Shun and the squad doe, I feel like theyre gonna be brainwashed again lol.

This SHOW especially Kumoko carried this year 2021 for me, it was such a fun ride. Cant wait for season 2

Jul 6, 2021 3:08 AM

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A good finale episode, definitely wanted more but I guess we will have to wait for a second season.

I gave it a 9/10.

Jul 6, 2021 3:39 AM

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Somebody please tell me that we're getting a S2! I miss Kumoko-chan already!
They left us hanging & confused in the middle of a war and i don't know which side will win. I also don't know what will the humans and the yuusha party do. Since afterall because of the demon army a lot of their people were massacred, including Shun's brother and his father.. I have so many questions. I think there's more to the story.
It's kinda ridiculous that they're the "good guys" while they're starting wars, killing off people left and right but i wanna know how they'll fight Potimas. I wanna see the admins and this Admin D, etc.
PLEASE MAKE A SECOND SEASON!

Fukuzatsuna_NazoJul 6, 2021 3:42 AM

Jul 6, 2021 1:37 PM

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LAst ep was pretty good. It got me interested again and now im debating on weather i should read the ln or not but overall it was ok. The animation was really the downfall of this anime 7/10

Jul 6, 2021 3:57 PM

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the ending of the season feels RUSHED as HELL!
so the conclusion is Kumoko allied with Ariel means Shun's company is good as being DOOMED in this realm...and Potimas is a real threat according to Ariel huh...
5/5.

Jul 6, 2021 8:57 PM

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Maruseru93 said:
god gamn good that this stupid anime is finaly over... it triggered me in so many ways first of again sophias and wraths arrogant and cocky attitue especially wrath i hate him so much

I mean, Why should they actually care? They're just killing a bunch of Elves that they intended to genocide to begin with, and their job is to keep Shun bussy which doesn't represent even the minimum risk to them.

And about Anna, I also don't know why they should care if she died. She's the only one that's not on their "Not Kill" list anyway.

then the arachne form of kumoko looks so ugly the human body is very good but the spider body is ugly as hell i would prefered a more simple design like that from monmusume

Really? I find this design good 'cuz it differentiates Kumoko from 99% of the other anime arachnes. In fact, I found monsume Ranchera design especially stupid thanks to her pedipalps that represents her "human" legs.

Jul 6, 2021 9:51 PM

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Iroha_Pixie said:
Oi oi oi!!!!
This is HORRIBLE. Does that mean there will be no more spider going forward? Its all a bunch a people???????? WHY does she have to take a human form?? Also, that was anti climactic end.

FUCK THIS SHIT.
8/10 >>>>>>>6/10

The author doesn't like the episodic feeling of most LNs, the way of writing of the author is that he introduce a lot of plot elements very early that are going to be solved eventually. Just because a story element was introduced or was the focus of a certain volume it doesn't mean that is going to be finished in that same volume. The story feels incredible as a whole because everything is interconnected.
Example, the whole Sariella-Ohts war and how "Sariella's Divine Beast" was involved on it is actually introduced in volume 2 when Shun & Co were in the Academy.
Funny enough, this is actually why most LN readers thought that this story wouldn't work well as an anime.

About why Shun's side ends abruptly, this is indeed the anime fault.
In the novel it isn't a secret that Shun's party only made it so far because the Demon Army allowed them. The Demon characters even say multiple time that they allowed them to escape and guided them in their journey.

This conversation happens after Shun's battle in the forest (Episode 14).

Volume 3 - Interlude: The Ruler and the Ninja said:

Sophia: Oh dear. They got away.
Felmina: That’s rich, considering we let them get away on purpose.
Sophia: I suppose. In fact, if that dragon hadn’t come along, I was starting to wonder how we would let them escape.
Felmina: Yes, since Master told us not to lay a hand on the hero. Yet, why did you disobey that order by fighting him?
Sophia: I just wanted to see how strong he was.
Felmina: At any rate, the master’s plan has begun. We must not disrupt it by acting on our foolish impulses.

To begin with, Shun's adventure was destined to fail no matter what.
Scenes skipped by the anime but a little more spoilery than the quote above.

Sue isn't brainwashed, she has been working with Hugo and the Demons since the very beginning. Sue is indeed under the effect of Lust but she doesn't have any order, they needed the status effect to appear in her appraisal status to fool Shun. She had zero problems to kill her Father and sacrifice her Older Brother (btw Cylis, the asshole brother was brainwashed).

Volume 3 - Interlude: The Ruler and the Little Sister said:

Sophia: How do you do, Little Sister?
Sue: What do you want?
Sophia: I just came to see how you’re doing, of course.
Sue: Well, you’ve seen me, then. Please leave.
Sophia: Oh, don’t be so cold. Couldn’t we talk a little first?
Sue: I have nothing to say to you.
Sophia: Is that so? And here I thought you would need comfort, sobbing away about pretending to be brainwashed so you could betray your beloved nii-sama.
Sue: Hmph! That’s none of your concern. You’re just a god’s hunting dog!
Sophia: Oh? Aren’t you in the same boat now? That’s why you betrayed your brother, I believe.
Sue: That’s not true! I haven’t betrayed him!
Sophia: But you are obeying our master. That makes you an enemy of the human race, my dear.
Sue: Ngh!
Sophia: Ah, there it is. That face. That’s what I wanted to see.
Sue: You’re horrible.
Sophia: I’ll take that as a compliment, thank you.

And that's not everything.
Beware LN readers, the next part is Volume 13 Material

Demons never risk that a plan they had been carrying out for 15 years was ruined by Shun, so they had spies behind Shun's back since day 0. Some of the weird angled scenes on Shun's side on the first half of the season were from the POV of small spider following Shun.
And the Demon weren't the only ones spying Shun... Hello Yuri, what have you been doing?

Shun's story just end in that exaclty moments because the Demon didn't allowed them to advance anymore.

linkhuesitosJul 6, 2021 10:05 PM

Jul 7, 2021 2:10 AM

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linkhuesitos said: