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Not possible though as being an Inspector/Enforcer is not based on skill or experience as we can see with Mika, but Crime Coefficient based. So, Unless Ginoza can magically clear his CC he will never be an Inspector again.

It's not solely coefficient based iirc.. it's based on aptitude testing mixed with sibly's judgement. I remember akane saying she pretty much qualified for any government job as well as high ranking positions in companies through her impressive test scores along with sibly's judgement. I dunno why I felt the need to say all this but you are right, the only thing stopping ginoza from returning to being an inspector is his PP.

To be honest, I don't know how someone like Mika was selected to be an inspector, there are VERY few people selected each year.. I think akane was the only person in her year, so it seems odd that they'd select someone who seems so unfit for the job. I'd call bullshit on it but I don't know mika's past.. I mean even the chief knows how under qualified she is for the job. I can see mika getting a cloudy hue though, there's already heavy foreshadowing.. she'll like be killed with a dominator to.

Maybe because Mika's good at snooping around? Back when she still attended the all girls academy, she was the only one suspicious of that popular girl who worked with Makishima. Now, even Akane doesn't sense anything off about Togane; she even sees Kogami in him. But it's Mika the one who suspects he's up to no good..

Nov 14, 2014 7:36 AM

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Maybe because Mika's good at snooping around? Back when she still attended the all girls academy, she was the only one suspicious of that popular girl who worked with Makishima. Now, even Akane doesn't sense anything off about Togane; she even sees Kogami in him. But it's Mika the one who suspects he's up to no good..

That could be it, after all she does seem to have very good perception.

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Also I think the reason why Shisui's Dominator usage is being approved is because of Kasei.I think she wants to see if this Kamui has the potential to be a Sibyl's member

I don't think so, the main reason for that is because they are losing to much staff. I mean an entire division of enforces +2 extras and four inspectors have been killed. These aren't easy to replace, as I mentioned above very few people qualify to be inspectors so losing four in the span of what seems like weeks is too much strain on the resources of the system. Also there's a screen process for enforcers as well.

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Nov 14, 2014 7:43 AM

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Ok, so after I watched the episode last night I went right to sleep since it was kinda late and decided to check the comments the next day, because sincerely this episode was just great to me! I wouldn’t call it a masterpiece yet I wouldn’t call it a failure like most of the comments I’ve just been reading…like, WTH! (I stopped at page 5 I think)I only read people complaining about small things and how most of the themes in the episodes are overused…well, guess what; if they didn’t do that or “created new rules” to get some logic going on there wouldn’t be a 2nd season in the first place Dx If you don’t like it then stop watching *sigh* such a big disappointment.
Since I have too many things going on my mind (and I’ve already forgotten most of them… XD) I’ll just make a list.

1. Why are you people complaining about the new rules in the PP world? Like…this is a new season if we want some serious business going on there is no way the rules can’t be static, I won’t completely affirm that there aren’t any holes but they aren’t that big to contradict the whole PP world functioning.

2. People complaining about Kougami. I do really want to see him too, but I also think that it could have been pretty silly to make this season a direct sequel to the previous, it would have to be about Kougami and how he is dealing with his life and sorts of that….conclusion: That plot could be explored in just one episode or an ova, therefore is logical for me that he is not that mentioned that much. But, I can affirm that I would be mad if he isn’t given a fair and clear conclusion on what he is doing, or what he is going to do…I don’t even care if he is just gonna live in exile forever, he was never meant to be a Sybil’s true villian anyway.

3. After reading this episode’s comments and some of them referring to the episode all the civilians were killed I will firmly say two things:
a. I don’t even know why on earth they are watching psycho pass if that kind of “violence/gore” disturbs them. I feel they don’t understand or empathize with PP world, like…Makishima already showed us how wrong and naïve common people’s thinking is PP universe. So..pleeeease TAT
b. They can only see the smaller picture of the situation and unless they prove me wrong I will still affirm it -_- Ok, I understand that they make comments like “why on earth Akane didn’t shoot Kamui when she had the chance? Such a failure”. Pleeeease…try to see the consequences of her actions and how she might have felt that moment.

I feel that she still tries to do preserve her sense of justice, and as people have said Togane reminds her of Kougami. Personally, having the villain (I do feel Kamui is the true villian) just die is…laaaame. It would be like any American horror movie where a crazy psycho decides to kill people and then gets killed. Booooring. I prefer for the villain psychology to be explained, because that is what makes me get thinking and try to figure something about his way of acting. After that well…punishment must be given D: Obviously Kamiu has (he has to have) some serious point he wants to prove and lets be fair, if he is captured this early all his secrets will go to grave with him. No, no, no I don’t want that. Now, some posibles “what-if” according to people’s complaints:

• Kamui gets shoot, he dies. The truth of his actions is never revealed. Conclusion: Epic failure Ending. Then what, Tougane is revealed as the true villain….please*sigh* I really don’t know why people just want Kamui to die so fast. Like he is the villain and after all he’s been doing he deserves a kind of epic death not just being shot and meh, die D:
• Kamui gets shoot, he is wounded. The situation with Makishima and Sybil repeats, therefore he escapes. Conclusion: people complaining of an already used scene.
• Final Conclusion: No matter what would have happened people still complains yet don’t give any other idea of what could have happened or should happen…those are “Meh” and “void” comments to me. However I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt ;D :v

Also, if you haven’t been thinking about what this season could be about…when I was trying to come with some ideas one of them was “Sybil’s falling”. So there is natural that its weakness are showed, and as for me if the show doesn’t end with Sybil’s destruction it would be a sad ending with a message like “there is no scape to the system” kind of the novel 1984. TAT

4. There is good chance that Tougane isn’t working with Kamui. First, I don’t think Sybil is that weak or stupid to just let things happening, those freaking brains have so be useful for something, right??? So, Sybil (along with Tougane) can be easily trying to push Akane’s limits to determine whether she is or not a good add to the system. But also Tougane maybe is Kamui’s partner, or maybe he works alone (doubt it) so…we’ll have to see which one is it.

5. Until a fair and logical conclusion as for Kamui’s actions I will not say that PP2 is a failure. As for now is doing well.

Nov 14, 2014 8:00 AM

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gloomspirit said:
They can only see the smaller picture of the situation and unless they prove me wrong I will still affirm it -_- Ok, I understand that they make comments like “why on earth Akane didn’t shoot Kamui when she had the chance? Such a failure”. Pleeeease…try to see the consequences of her actions and how she might have felt that moment.

My only problem with this is it literally means Akane is not doing her job properly. You see every other inspector prepared to kill, except for Akane. "How she might have felt that moment" means she's being selfish. The consequence of killing Kamui would be, yes, an early end to a great series and many unsolved mysteries, but forgetting that fact, it would mean more lives are saved from Kamui's future plans. Don't get me wrong, killing is wrong. Period. But what's the point of Akane not killing if the next person over does the job for her?
In the first (or second, can't remember) episode, Akane was hesitant to shoot the guy they were chasing in the sewers or something. In the end, someone else does the job for her. This all makes her seem like the good guy, but if you think about it, that's the case with pretty much every criminal Akane deals with. She and the team hunt down and corner the criminal, Akane refuses to shoot, but then someone else does it for her. She didn't kill Makishima even given the opportunity, but Kogami does it anyway. This isn't about saving lives anymore to Akane. She's on a self fulfilling mission that it doesn't matter the consequences as long as she tries.

And btw, 1984 was downright awful. Sadly, Psycho-pass seems to be heading toward that conclusion given that nobody on the police force is doing a thing.

Nov 14, 2014 8:52 AM

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tanteiRE said:

gloomspirit said:
They can only see the smaller picture of the situation and unless they prove me wrong I will still affirm it -_- Ok, I understand that they make comments like “why on earth Akane didn’t shoot Kamui when she had the chance? Such a failure”. Pleeeease…try to see the consequences of her actions and how she might have felt that moment.

My only problem with this is it literally means Akane is not doing her job properly. You see every other inspector prepared to kill, except for Akane. "How she might have felt that moment" means she's being selfish. The consequence of killing Kamui would be, yes, an early end to a great series and many unsolved mysteries, but forgetting that fact, it would mean more lives are saved from Kamui's future plans. Don't get me wrong, killing is wrong. Period. But what's the point of Akane not killing if the next person over does the job for her?
In the first (or second, can't remember) episode, Akane was hesitant to shoot the guy they were chasing in the sewers or something. In the end, someone else does the job for her. This all makes her seem like the good guy, but if you think about it, that's the case with pretty much every criminal Akane deals with. She and the team hunt down and corner the criminal, Akane refuses to shoot, but then someone else does it for her. She didn't kill Makishima even given the opportunity, but Kogami does it anyway. This isn't about saving lives anymore to Akane. She's on a self fulfilling mission that it doesn't matter the consequences as long as she tries.

But using a gun would be a violation. Remember all crimes are to be judged by Sybil, not personally, so Akane must use her dominator to "enforce justice" to Kamui. I bet if dominator worked on Kamui then Akane would have shot him with dominator. Akane is just one Sybil's dog anyway, a smart dog; she may disagree with Sybil but she can't disobey orders.

Nov 14, 2014 8:57 AM

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tanteiRE said:

My only problem with this is it literally means Akane is not doing her job properly. You see every other inspector prepared to kill, except for Akane. "How she might have felt that moment" means she's being selfish. The consequence of killing Kamui would be, yes, an early end to a great series and many unsolved mysteries, but forgetting that fact, it would mean more lives are saved from Kamui's future plans. Don't get me wrong, killing is wrong. Period. But what's the point of Akane not killing if the next person over does the job for her?
In the first (or second, can't remember) episode, Akane was hesitant to shoot the guy they were chasing in the sewers or something. In the end, someone else does the job for her. This all makes her seem like the good guy, but if you think about it, that's the case with pretty much every criminal Akane deals with. She and the team hunt down and corner the criminal, Akane refuses to shoot, but then someone else does it for her. She didn't kill Makishima even given the opportunity, but Kogami does it anyway. This isn't about saving lives anymore to Akane. She's on a self fulfilling mission that it doesn't matter the consequences as long as she tries.

But using a gun would be a violation. Remember all crimes are to be judged by Sybil, not personally, so Akane must use her dominator to "enforce justice" to Kamui. I bet if dominator worked on Kamui then Akane would have shot him with dominator. Akane is just one Sybil's dog anyway, a smart dog; she may disagree with Sybil but she can't disobey orders.

If the dominator had gone lethal on kamui she probably would not have shot him.

Nov 14, 2014 9:12 AM

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Just gonna say what everyone else is saying: this 'STEAL DOMINATORS AND USE INSPECTORS ID/EYE' plot doesn't make a lick of sense. The brains scan in real-time and are in full control, rather than and A.I., and can make the guns fire or not fire at will. It would also be very easy to revoke an inspector's privileges, even ignoring that. So, unless there's an utterly retarded 'LET KAMUI DO WHAT HE WANTS' conspiracy, the change of writer has well and truly ballsed it up more than just with the complete lack of subtlety and OTT violence. With writing like in ep4 where ONE MAN + small robo-dog couldn't be overpowered, it wouldn't surprise me.

It's rather fitting that 'WC' keeps getting shown because the show has literally gone down the toilet. The Togane-Kougami link is going to be entirely superficial and God knows why neither Akane nor Togane shot THE BOAT. Or why Akane insists on being purepure when 10+ people are getting brutally in every ep because of Kamui. None of the new characters are remotely likable, with only Mika having personality... a bad one, at that. Small things like how the four-eyed psychologist NEEDS to keep pushing the bridge of his glasses up BECAUSE HE HAS GLASSES/QUIRK are very irritating.

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Nov 14, 2014 9:26 AM

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I see a lot of nitpickers around here. Let's see what will happen the last 5 episodes and then we will determine if theres something unanswered or not. One of the problems i'm seeing is that many people are watching psycho pass without inmersing in its society.

Nov 14, 2014 9:40 AM

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rixi12 said:
I see a lot of nitpickers around here. Let's see what will happen the last 5 episodes and then we will determine if theres something unanswered or not. One of the problems i'm seeing is that many people are watching psycho pass without inmersing in its society.

Exactly!They view things according to our society not by the world of Psycho-Pass.

Nov 14, 2014 9:55 AM

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rixi12 said:
I see a lot of nitpickers around here. Let's see what will happen the last 5 episodes and then we will determine if theres something unanswered or not. One of the problems i'm seeing is that many people are watching psycho pass without inmersing in its society.

Exactly!They view things according to our society not by the world of Psycho-Pass.

Can you specify which parts are being nitpicked? And why it has to do with viewing things according to our society and not by Psycho-pass'?

Nov 14, 2014 9:59 AM

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I had to check before replying, to ensure I wasn't remembering things like a goldfish.
"When multiple drones of the same type are within a certain shooting range, it's designed to lock the guns"

Finally someone with a brain that rewatches/checks the anime before typing angry ignorant comments...

It doesn't make sense to me from a design perspective. 2 drones standing near each other pointing their guns at something are not a danger to each other unless they are in each other's line of fire.

Nov 14, 2014 10:21 AM

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rixi12 said:
I see a lot of nitpickers around here. Let's see what will happen the last 5 episodes and then we will determine if theres something unanswered or not. One of the problems i'm seeing is that many people are watching psycho pass without inmersing in its society.

Exactly!They view things according to our society not by the world of Psycho-Pass.

While there may be some truth to this, it's skepticism that refines plausibility and believability. Events proceeding within the confines of societal 'rules' is fine, but if both are predicated on the notion of flying pigs, one should expect eyebrows to raise. Just because you're abiding by rules doesn't mean the whole mess can't also seem stupid.

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Nov 14, 2014 10:23 AM

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tanteiRE said:

Can you specify which parts are being nitpicked? And why it has to do with viewing things according to our society and not by Psycho-pass'?

For example the behavior of the hostages of episode 4, or akane's behavior this last episode. These kinds of behavior are logical on psycho pass society even if at our society point of view is absurd. And akane's choice was absolutely logical based on her strong sense of justice.

Nov 14, 2014 10:31 AM

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rixi12 said:

tanteiRE said:

Can you specify which parts are being nitpicked? And why it has to do with viewing things according to our society and not by Psycho-pass'?

For example the behavior of the hostages of episode 4, or akane's behavior this last episode. These kinds of behavior are logical on psycho pass society even if at our society point of view is absurd. And akane's choice was absolutely logical based on her strong sense of justice.

People were nitpicking the behavior of the hostages? On the episode 6 discussion post? Odd. Personally, I thought they reacted the way any hostages would.
Sure, Akane's choice was absolutely logical based on her strong sense of justice. But her strong sense of justice is beyond logical. Her justice is an inconvenience.

Nov 14, 2014 10:34 AM

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tanteiRE said:

rixi12 said:

For example the behavior of the hostages of episode 4, or akane's behavior this last episode. These kinds of behavior are logical on psycho pass society even if at our society point of view is absurd. And akane's choice was absolutely logical based on her strong sense of justice.

People were nitpicking the behavior of the hostages? On the episode 6 discussion post? Odd. Personally, I thought they reacted the way any hostages would.
Sure, Akane's choice was absolutely logical based on her strong sense of justice. But her strong sense of justice is beyond logical. Her justice is an inconvenience.

What are you saying Akane's justice is? Never kill anyone ever no matter what they do or what the situation?

Nov 14, 2014 10:48 AM

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rixi12 said:

For example the behavior of the hostages of episode 4, or akane's behavior this last episode. These kinds of behavior are logical on psycho pass society even if at our society point of view is absurd. And akane's choice was absolutely logical based on her strong sense of justice.

People were nitpicking the behavior of the hostages? On the episode 6 discussion post? Odd. Personally, I thought they reacted the way any hostages would.
Sure, Akane's choice was absolutely logical based on her strong sense of justice. But her strong sense of justice is beyond logical. Her justice is an inconvenience.

Personally, I'm beginning to question Akane's "strong sense of justice," myself. So far, she seems to be far more protective of criminals than her colleagues. She went to earth's end bringing an explosives worker's PP down 1pt (after he lured them to doom), and now she couldn't pull the trigger on Kamui, who orchestrated the wholesale slaughter of nearly two Divisions. Sybil had a hand in one or both of these, but that hardly excuses Akane.

Nov 14, 2014 11:00 AM

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Well,there wouldn't be any more episodes if she did.

More like because Tougane's action reminded her of Kougami. She don't want Tougane to end up like Kougami.

I was thinking this same thing.

Nov 14, 2014 11:06 AM

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Any theories on what the Chief meant when she said, "besides, aren't you curious as to why she's (Akane) affected by that?" Or something to that effect...

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tanteiRE said:

People were nitpicking the behavior of the hostages? On the episode 6 discussion post? Odd. Personally, I thought they reacted the way any hostages would.
Sure, Akane's choice was absolutely logical based on her strong sense of justice. But her strong sense of justice is beyond logical. Her justice is an inconvenience.

I was refering to the overal most criticized aspects of 2nd season. I'm not saying that akane's actions are right or wrong, just logical because of her trauma about losing kogami.

Nov 14, 2014 11:20 AM

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Why did chief Kasei warn Akane about Togane being suspicious? If he is such a dangerous threat to Akane why doesn't she fire him and send him to the prison thing? Or does the chief/Sybil want Akane to be in danger on purpose?

And all of you Kamui is Kougami or Togane is Kougami conspirators-you are all wrong!
Kougami probably did a sex change and plastic surgery to do some yuri scenes with Akane.

Nov 14, 2014 11:29 AM

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That's what I'm saying.

Well,in this case they didn't even try to control the damage, didn't they?
What about their "perfect system"? What about "trying to avoid a pointless death"?
This season just made them look like a brainless machine.

A perfect system is sometimes in a way too perfect. The trend for them which was established in season 1 was to make exceptions for those that somehow manage to defy the world they created. Call it a case of double standards :P

We're going nowhere. I think their intention about Makishima is pretty clear. They're a bunch criminal brains after all and they just want one more to join. But even that, they did try to capture him and controlled the damage he caused at the same time. The Chief even warned Ginoza to keep his mouth shut about the fact that Sibyl can't read Makishima's crime coefficient. They really concerned about people's faith in the system, their workers's faith in dominators.
What they're doing now is out of their character (yes, even sibyl has it ).
Unless they come up with a very good reason to ignore Kamui's act then it's nothing but a writer's mistakes. A common problem in every series when they change the staffs.

Nov 14, 2014 11:31 AM

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What are you saying Akane's justice is? Never kill anyone ever no matter what they do or what the situation?

Yes. Or there has never been a situation presented where the criminal must absolutely die, which I don't believe is the case.

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Personally, I'm beginning to question Akane's "strong sense of justice," myself. So far, she seems to be far more protective of criminals than her colleagues. She went to earth's end bringing an explosives worker's PP down 1pt (after he lured them to doom), and now she couldn't pull the trigger on Kamui, who orchestrated the wholesale slaughter of nearly two Divisions. Sybil had a hand in one or both of these, but that hardly excuses Akane.

Agreed.

rixi12 said:

I was refering to the overal most criticized aspects of 2nd season. I'm not saying that akane's actions are right or wrong, just logical because of her trauma about losing kogami.

I suppose that's another thing that bothers me; Akane's still not over Kogami. Or to better phrase it, where the hell is Kogami?

Nov 14, 2014 11:36 AM

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Any theories on what the Chief meant when she said, "besides, aren't you curious as to why she's (Akane) affected by that?" Or something to that effect...

That in itself should be a new topic. It's kinda getting confusing with so many theories lost in the pages xD

I would guess it's a drug. A couple episodes ago, Akane discovered "WC?" scratched on her apartment's wall. My theory for that Akane wrote it herself, but lost the memories of her doing it. Perhaps that is the same drug. Idk :P

Nov 14, 2014 11:38 AM

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To be honest it was a great episode.

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Nov 14, 2014 11:39 AM

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TiamatNM said:

What are you saying Akane's justice is? Never kill anyone ever no matter what they do or what the situation?

Yes. Or there has never been a situation presented where the criminal must absolutely die, which I don't believe is the case.

If Akane is really such a hardcore pacifist I don't understand why she would even bring the gun in the first place. At the end of season 1 Akane decided not to expose Sybil cause it would cause chaos. I thought she was doing that for what she deemed to be the greater good i.e. peace and stability. I would think leaving Kamui to go on his rampage for the rest of the season would go against the greater good.

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tanteiRE said:

Yes. Or there has never been a situation presented where the criminal must absolutely die, which I don't believe is the case.

If Akane is really such a hardcore pacifist I don't understand why she would even bring the gun in the first place. At the end of season 1 Akane decided not to expose Sybil cause it would cause chaos. I thought she was doing that for what she deemed to be the greater good i.e. peace and stability. I would think leaving Kamui to go on his rampage for the rest of the season would go against the greater good.

I thought she wanted the gun for the drones.

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tanteiRE said:

Gymkata said:
Any theories on what the Chief meant when she said, "besides, aren't you curious as to why she's (Akane) affected by that?" Or something to that effect...

That in itself should be a new topic. It's kinda getting confusing with so many theories lost in the pages xD

Thats one of the things i like about psycho pass, the many crazy theories that we all create about it XD

Nov 14, 2014 11:52 AM

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rixi12 said:

tanteiRE said:

That in itself should be a new topic. It's kinda getting confusing with so many theories lost in the pages xD

Thats one of the things i like about psycho pass, the many crazy theories that we all create about it XD

I was worried that it might has something to do with what happened to real Kougami because after listened to his last conversation with Akane on the Blu-ray bonus, I don't believe for a sec about Kamui/Kougami, Togane/Kougami are the same.
If something bad really happened to him then I'm done with the series. :(

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rixi12 said:

Thats one of the things i like about psycho pass, the many crazy theories that we all create about it XD

I was worried that it might has something to do with what happened to real Kougami because after listened to his last conversation with Akane on the Blu-ray bonus, I don't believe for a sec about Kamui/Kougami, Togane/Kougami are the same.
If something bad really happened to him then I'm done with the series. :(

I can just picture it.. Kamui reveals he has hundreds of obedient followers, brainwashed, and all heads over heals for him, and as they march out of the shadows, Kogami is revealed to be nothing more than an empty shell.. >:) jk

Nov 14, 2014 11:57 AM

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Mika at this rate is either going to get killed, quit or end up as an Enforcer.

At the way the story is being told, Mika has massive plot-armor. My Predicition is She will not die and will get The Same treatment with Ginoza in PP 1, which is causing a character to die for the sake of their own character development.

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TmZ_Holymama said:

rixi12 said:

Thats one of the things i like about psycho pass, the many crazy theories that we all create about it XD

I was worried that it might has something to do with what happened to real Kougami because after listened to his last conversation with Akane on the Blu-ray bonus, I don't believe for a sec about Kamui/Kougami, Togane/Kougami are the same.
If something bad really happened to him then I'm done with the series. :(

Yeah if Kougami is one and the same with Togane, I'm done with this. Unless he's undergone some radical personality change, I just can't see him being kosher with Sybil and Kamui's total disregard for the lives of Enforcers/Inspectors, much as he'd love to take down Sybil himself.

Overall, I'm kinda disappointed with they way they've written Saiga into this too, compared to S1. He hasn't added a whole lot for me other than sniffing out that politician and fiddling with his glasses. I think it would have been interesting if they'd withheld his appearance for a more significant role, perhaps a Kougami/Saiga team. I still don't buy the whole self-incarceration thing...

I know! Maybe Kougami is building his own harem that will take Sybil down in the last ep. Nothing will make you invisible faster than a night with Kougami.

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AironicallyHuman said:
Just gonna say what everyone else is saying: this 'STEAL DOMINATORS AND USE INSPECTORS ID/EYE' plot doesn't make a lick of sense. The brains scan in real-time and are in full control, rather than and A.I., and can make the guns fire or not fire at will. It would also be very easy to revoke an inspector's privileges, even ignoring that. So, unless there's an utterly retarded 'LET KAMUI DO WHAT HE WANTS' conspiracy, the change of writer has well and truly ballsed it up more than just with the complete lack of subtlety and OTT violence. With writing like in ep4 where ONE MAN + small robo-dog couldn't be overpowered, it wouldn't surprise me.

It's rather fitting that 'WC' keeps getting shown because the show has literally gone down the toilet. The Togane-Kougami link is going to be entirely superficial and God knows why neither Akane nor Togane shot THE BOAT. Or why Akane insists on being purepure when 10+ people are getting brutally in every ep because of Kamui. None of the new characters are remotely likable, with only Mika having personality... a bad one, at that. Small things like how the four-eyed psychologist NEEDS to keep pushing the bridge of his glasses up BECAUSE HE HAS GLASSES/QUIRK are very irritating.

Watch episode 2, the conversation between akane and aoyanagi. Only sibyl can revoke an inspector's right to use a dominator.

Nov 14, 2014 1:11 PM

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TiamatNM said:

MikuruSi said:

Finally someone with a brain that rewatches/checks the anime before typing angry ignorant comments...

It doesn't make sense to me from a design perspective. 2 drones standing near each other pointing their guns at something are not a danger to each other unless they are in each other's line of fire.

I'm assuming it means that if one drone is targeting another of the same type, and it is within a
certain shooting range, then it'll lock the guns.

The first requirement seems kind of obvious to me because there wouldn't be a reason to lock
the guns if it wasn't a threat to the other to begin with.

konatachan80Nov 14, 2014 1:21 PM

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Nov 14, 2014 1:13 PM

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FiveOVER said:
Watch episode 2, the conversation between akane and aoyanagi. Only sibyl can revoke an inspector's right to use a dominator.

If only we knew someone who could talk directly to the Sibyl system...

Nov 14, 2014 1:18 PM

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Szadek23 said:

FiveOVER said:
Watch episode 2, the conversation between akane and aoyanagi. Only sibyl can revoke an inspector's right to use a dominator.

If only we knew someone who could talk directly to the Sibyl system...

Until now she didn't really have any information Sibyl could use in any way, but now she might..at least
if she recognized the person at his side.

konatachan80Nov 14, 2014 1:21 PM

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Nov 14, 2014 1:22 PM

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Szadek23 said:

FiveOVER said:
Watch episode 2, the conversation between akane and aoyanagi. Only sibyl can revoke an inspector's right to use a dominator.

If only we knew someone who could talk directly to the Sibyl system...

Sibyl's whole stance in all of this is "Kamui doesn't exist". *shrug*

Nov 14, 2014 1:23 PM

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kaimax said:

nocturnalistic said:
Mika at this rate is either going to get killed, quit or end up as an Enforcer.

At the way the story is being told, Mika has massive plot-armor. My Predicition is She will not die and will get The Same treatment with Ginoza in PP 1, which is causing a character to die for the sake of their own character development.

I just hope the writer doesn't kill off Yayoi for Mika to grow a spine.

Nov 14, 2014 1:40 PM

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Well, we had a full mecha FPS episode. It felt like I was playing a shooter... Which I'm not particuliarly a fan of. But it was a good episode nonetheless.

It was kinda weird that she saw Kogami in Togane. THey aren't exactly much alike, since what made a lot of Kogami personality was his obscession for the Makishima case.

Not surprising Shisui went full crazy yandere. And those poor people seeing what they did to the officers... At the same time, if they turn off the hologram, shouldn't they just see what they are doing right now? I mean, the scene they showed happened much before.

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Nov 14, 2014 2:04 PM

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aksa123 said:

But using a gun would be a violation. Remember all crimes are to be judged by Sybil, not personally, so Akane must use her dominator to "enforce justice" to Kamui.

So when Akane bashed Makishima upside the head with a helmet in season 1, was that also a violation? All crimes are to be judged by Sybil, not by a piece of protective headgear.

Nov 14, 2014 2:17 PM

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Gymkata said:
Any theories on what the Chief meant when she said, "besides, aren't you curious as to why she's (Akane) affected by that?" Or something to that effect...

Now I wonder why would Sybil want to take Akane off after like 1,5 year of her not talking about Sybil's secrets tbh

Nov 14, 2014 2:20 PM

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That was some good action.
Now I'm really wondering what role is Kougami gonna play in this season and is he ever going to show up at all??

Nov 14, 2014 2:24 PM

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What if Akane is criminally asymptomatic? Would explain why her PP or hue never changes.

Nov 14, 2014 2:33 PM

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Digitalcommunist said:
What if Akane is criminally asymptomatic? Would explain why her PP or hue never changes.

If she was, then Sibyl simply would've bagged her up and that was that.

Makeshima seemed to be of the "whatever happens, I don't care" type, while Akane seems to
be of the "whatever happens, I'll accept it as the way of the world" type.
("accept" in this case isn't really the same as an agreement)

In other words, the result might be the same, but at the same time different.
Sibyl seems to want more of that kind, because it would accept Sibyl as it really is..reluctantly.

konatachan80Nov 14, 2014 2:42 PM

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Nov 14, 2014 2:39 PM

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I am not sure that there can be a good explanation for Akane's behavior in the end of the ep. First of all, she works in their analogue of police, so she should be ready for criminals getting killed. Latent criminals are one thing, but actual criminals are another. Get another work, if you're not ready to see blood. As far as I remember, she didn't want to kill Mikishima in the end, because she had the deal with Sybil for the sake of her beloved one.

Now, it is logical that she doesn't want to kill anybody herself - it's uncomfortable in any society, and plain harmful for her PP in theirs. But that's what enforcers are for, and when they say that they should do the dirty work, they are right - that's their purpose. That's not cruel - their status of latent criminals is, letting them do work only they can (and that they can refuse to do) is not. And Akane saw enforcers, working under her, kill people. Togane is not Kougami, he doesn't resemble him, Akane doesn't know much about him (besides the fact that he is dangerous, lol) and there is no indication, that they have any special bond, so why does she care about his feelings over lives of innocents?

Actually, since both of them were unfamiliar with the gun, there was no guarantee, that they would get him, even if they shot, so why not try at least?

Nov 14, 2014 2:47 PM

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TiamatNM said:

If Akane is really such a hardcore pacifist I don't understand why she would even bring the gun in the first place. At the end of season 1 Akane decided not to expose Sybil cause it would cause chaos. I thought she was doing that for what she deemed to be the greater good i.e. peace and stability. I would think leaving Kamui to go on his rampage for the rest of the season would go against the greater good.

I thought she wanted the gun for the drones.

No, she said something like "we should take this because dominator probably won't work on kamui and friends." She would not have said that if she only wanted to use it on drones.

Nov 14, 2014 3:16 PM

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Oh.. One more...
Don't you find it's too convenient that every enforcers's cc just magically rise above 300 easily just to be killed by Kirito? It's pretty cheap way to make situations more intense to me.

Nov 14, 2014 3:45 PM

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Whoa......
This was a nice episode, except for the part where all those innocent people killed....all those innocent people. o-o
But what was really awesome was that ending though.

:O Flash back of....
Of......Kougami? o-o
And....and....when Kamui's hood flew off......
No way......they looked so alike! D:
NO WAY! LOL!! This is so not happening right now.....I don't think Kamui and Kougami are the same.....heck no......
That would make the worst plot twist ever. DX

Hopefully this gets explained later on~! D:

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Nov 14, 2014 3:58 PM

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