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| Shinshi looks like he's bounced back...even if it might be more like a mid-life crisis with bleaching his hair. I'm guessing his divorce went through after all. I'm unfamiliar with dating apps in Japan, but I assume they're just as filled with men pretending to be women scammers and other catfishing schemes. Gonda seems to have gotten lucky. That idol-fan Kaori was quite the beauty. But if all they talk about is idols and nothing else, I don't really see the relationship going anywhere beyond simply fellow idol fans, like groupies of a fanclub. Gonda is getting way ahead of himself...already thinking about popping the question after one freaking date. It's one thing to think it, and another to seriously do it. I'd be really creeped out if I were Kaori. Takuya should have done everything to stop him from making a fool of himself and ruining something good. But since it's him after all, it's not too surprising Takuya gave bad advice of encouragement considering he has zero real-world experience in dating. So Kaori was a single mom at 28, eh. Probably had her son in her early to mid 20s. But now that Gonda has already come this far, he may as well go for broke and commit all the way...it's what I would have done if I were in his shoes; of course, I would have never put myself in that position in the first place. I'm glad Gonda has learned from this experience...not everything works out in the end, sometimes in heartache. I hope it works out for both him and Kaori in the future. Overall, a great episode with a mature subject matter, not just the usual shenanigans of the fake marriage of the main couple. |
| Don't do my boy Gon-chan like this!!! He had a perfectly reasonable reaction and was ready to step up. crying |
| Well, he is fortunate enough to be hoping for a second chance. Think of all the pitiful mortals in this world who never had a first chance. |
| Lord Cruelty V "But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be" |
| Wow a whole episode that was basically not even about the MCs, except a little. I feel bad for Hando, he was laying out his sincere heart to her, and she in return thrust on his shoulders a huge responsibility, which would make most guys surprised since they didn’t discuss it and cause them to think the situation through, it felt kind of mean the way she did it, putting him on the spot like that. And he tried very soon to meet up with her, to fix the situation and explain what he wanted to do, but she doesn’t even try to hear his answer, she sends a friend instead, another mean thing to do, even the friend saw how serious he was with his papers on the table, she couldn’t help but feel bad for him. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| Last week's episode won't be resolved this week, but this episode shows the reality that marriage is not something to take lightly. Gon was head over hills for Kaori, but he has realised how he is inadequate for her. I don't know if we'll see Kaori again but....sad. |
| 'I am the world's most selfish man.' (俺のわがまま世界１だ) — Ten'ouji Haru |
| Waking up sober and realizing that you been confessed too has to be the most awkward thing. Funny that Ohara was in a worst state though. Damm spending 60k on a dating app is crazy. Its nice that Gonda found a fellow fan that shares his passion. Being a single mom is a heavy responsibility so its no wonder Kaori's cautious. It would be nice to see a happy ending come out of Gonda and Kaori's bond though. |
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| I hate it when I can relate to a fictional character due to having been put in a similar situation. Hopefully, Gonda’s situation ends differently than my own. |
| Since I ideally like following and maximum focus being spent on the main characters, especially when it's two or a very few main characters, especially with some sort of romantic dynamic at play, I usually detest in series like that when side characters randomly hijack an episode out of nowhere and dominate most or all of the screentime in it (regardless of it here all being connected thematically to the broader story about uncertainty of romantic endeavors and trials and tribulations of modern romance and all that). But here, I honestly cannot say that I hate it. Admittedly was a little disappointed and turned off at first when it became apparent very quickly after the first few minutes of the episode that they weren't going to move into really right away continuing and building upon the storyline from last episode, especially with the the serious Honjouji scarcity. But at the same time the main characters and main plot itself don't seem...all that important? So it comes across as less of a big deal to me when they want to spin their wheels in place for however long and take detours. Don't get me wrong - that sounds like a criticism against or some dig at the show, but it really isn't. I just mean that the main plot is in many respects so low stakes and the two leads have such a lack of any sense of urgency even to speak, having to psychologically prep and internally work themselves up to even engaging in brief civil and polite conversations of a few minutes long apiece, that it seems unimportant if we divert to hang out with the supporting characters instead as even when Honjouji and Takuya are both onscreen together, it's not uncommon for very little to no real progress to be made anyway. I guess that the only real "stakes" (well, besides the open question of whether they'll have any form of real romance flourish which would require them both opening their minds to dispel their self-inferiority and inadequacy complexes and opening their mouths to each other more, but I'm talking a time-sensitive one) is the now-less-than-a-year countdown to the date when employees from their office are supposed to be selected to depart for Anchorage. And whether anyone in their office will still care or be talking about their "marriage" by that point, whether they couldn't keep the ruse going or whether it will cease even being a ruse and become something authentic or closer to the truth by then than it is now. But it's treated as such a distant tertiary concern at this point it's whatever. |
WatchTillTandavaNov 22, 2024 2:05 AM
| This could genuinely be such a masterpiece if not for Gonda to get hanged liked that in the end. Its a trend in this show which is supposed to be about marriage but it always giving this unfulfilled and sad endings everytime. I get what are they trying to achieve but it's not satisfying. My boi literally hit jackpot with Kaori. They had great chemistry in 5 minutes compared to 8 episodes of main duo and both seemed happy together. But when Kaori secret was revealed him flinching was very natural although kinda frustrating. And even after few days when he was ready now Kaori didn't gave him the chance. Ik she didn't forget/rejected him persay but I doubt she even gonna come back here. It would be such a shame and waste of such good side plot. I hope I am wrong. Gonda is insecure and down on himself while Kaori struggles as single mother. They clearly like eachother and Gonda was ready too even if he jumped the gun.  They deserve happy ending. |
WaterMageNov 22, 2024 3:13 AM
| My God this episode's ending was a huge gut punch that I unfortunately can relate to. |
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Reply to SoulReaper85
@0451 the oofy doofy won't get a 2nd chance because he was delusional they only 1 meeting she learned all she needed to know
| @SoulReaper85 you couldn't be more wrong if you tried |
| poor Gonda... but I feel like he is really serious about Kaori, so I hope this don't ends like that for him... I mean, she dropped a "bomb" on him, he would naturally be shocked at first, but don't mean he isn't serious about wanting to marry her... at least give dude some time to process (but irl, I would be more worried for Kaori, having a dude wanting to marry her 4 days after meeting each other, being single mother or not ^^' ) anyway... what was that random scene with the guy in the office being blonde? lol... they shown us, and completely ignore for the rest of the episode |
Reply to SoulReaper85
@billybub I'm a Manga reader so I know, Bro choked and won't get another chance with her and he has is his money, he's not chad or looks
| @SoulReaper85 You're a manga reader? Really? Might I direct your attention to then. |
billybubNov 22, 2024 6:51 AM
| Responsibility is a massive word and Gondou-san got a spoonful of that here. Got to feel for him and Kaori-san too. I was expecting development with the main couple but hey, I didn’t mind this one but either! Maybe it’ll provide the necessary impetus to move on from that stalemate from last episode’s climax. |
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| There is a lot that can be said about this episode's story, but I feel like one interesting aspect nobody's mentioned here yet is how Gonda's clearly not the only one who rushed into a relationship without knowing enough about the other person. I feel like Kaori might actually be seeing a lot of her past self in Gonda, in a way. In all likelihood, she used to be the same way, rushing into romance with the guy who seemed perfect for her. I think that might be why she didn't delete the pictures in the end. She didn't commit to "punishing" him for his naivety, because she sympathized with it from experience. In fact, my interpretation is that the reason she didn't meet him after that despite him asking was because… she feared she was still that person. That if he told her he did mean it after all and that he was serious about her - she would trust him. She would trust another man she didn't know enough about. My impression is she trusts Gonda quite a bit, es evidenced by letting him meet her son - what she doesn't trust is her own judgment in men, which is quite understandable. People here claim the ending was sad, but I see a ton of hope presented here, in the form of some serious first-steps for both of them to grow as people. It's kinda unfortunate that "main characters' relationship is so bland in comparison" sentiment seems so popular… I understand it, romance anime being reluctant to let anything romantic, or even relationship-y, happen is frustrating… But maybe it's just me, these two are so delightfully autistic in the most relatable way. And the best thing about this story, IMO, is that it isn't just about two characters falling in love with one another - it's primarily about two characters learning about relationships and trying to figure out if they COULD feasibly fall in love in the first place. They are not, as countless other romance protagonists, simply inexperienced, shy, awkward and desperate - they are genuinely and truly not interested in romance at all. Not even avert to it after some bad experiences, which is just another common romance protagonist trope. Romance for them is like, say, politics for many other people. Yeah, tons of people talk about it all the time and sure, it's technically an important aspect of life, that's true, but they just don't care, it's not for them. And then they are forced to dip their toes into that part of reality (by faking taking a deep dive into it) and are now learning a lot about that big meaty chunk of life they disregarded completely until now. That's a great premise (that very much necessitates strange, asocial protagonists), but better yet, a whole lot of what they're learning is negative. They're learning a whole lot about both the necessary and the potential struggles that come with sharing your life with someone else - for them, even coworkers throwing them a congratulatory party is a big anxiety pill to swallow. So obviously, the more they see, the less they'd want to actually get together… right? Oh, what's this? Despite their inner monologues indeed confirming how much of a pain this romance thing seems to be, they still can't help thinking about the other with a whole lotta "maybes"? Well, color me impressed, that's a brilliant way to show the story's "marriage will make your life hell objectively - but do it right and it'll feel like heaven" theme. |
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| Gonda is such a nice fella. Hope things will work out for him in the end. |
Vampire_LordNov 22, 2024 1:27 PM
| Disappointment (´。＿。｀) |
| Excellent show as usual. All this expression with characters you would least expect to see it. Simply great execution and writing. |
| I like how the side characters in this anime have more intrigue to them than our main cast lol |
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I find it weird that nobody here has noticed the fact that the girl just outright lied to our big man. Not putting that you are a single mother on your dating profile from the start is SO disingenuous and deceptive. 90% of men do NOT want to raise another mans child, for a multitude of reasons. So just pretending that you have normal circumstances and leading on guys like that is so bad. I can see maybe she didn't put it on there, because well like I said, most men do not want anything to do with a single mother ( rightfully so ) and by hiding this fact she gets a lot more dates.....but that's just delaying the inevitable....Men are typically more desperate to get with a woman, and would put up with the burden, so honestly just being honest from the start would just be a better option, as the woman would still get a decent amount of matches despite having a kid. That way things would be transparent and expectations would be set. |
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| I disagree with the volume of disdain for a single mom with a healthy infant or young toddler, and maybe even a track record of how functional at work, childcare, managing to have a social life and a hobby. I have raised three of my own children. Raising one from late infancy or early toddler seems like a bargain. You miss two of the most stressful, anxiety generating, and burdensome parts of fatherhood, pregnancy and early infancy, and you get a a child with less uncertainty about health, ready for bonding with a father who will raise him. If man wants a family, are a few percent more commonality of nucleotides all that more significant to ones legacy than years of support, affection, education, love, and growth? |
| Lord Cruelty V "But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be" |
| Kinda hits hard to me. I relate with Gonda, can't blame him. I was at the same situation. She asked me out. It's really hard to be in that situation. You can't just be ready for it, it's practically taking two people in. Responsibilities - financially and mentally. That's when I realized I was still a "kid" that time. |
Reply to DoctorWasabi
I find it weird that nobody here has noticed the fact that the girl just outright lied to our big man. Not putting that you are a single mother on your dating profile from the start is SO disingenuous and deceptive. 90% of men do NOT want to raise another mans child, for a multitude of reasons. So just pretending that you have normal circumstances and leading on guys like that is so bad.
I can see maybe she didn't put it on there, because well like I said, most men do not want anything to do with a single mother ( rightfully so ) and by hiding this fact she gets a lot more dates.....but that's just delaying the inevitable....Men are typically more desperate to get with a woman, and would put up with the burden, so honestly just being honest from the start would just be a better option, as the woman would still get a decent amount of matches despite having a kid. That way things would be transparent and expectations would be set.
I can see maybe she didn't put it on there, because well like I said, most men do not want anything to do with a single mother ( rightfully so ) and by hiding this fact she gets a lot more dates.....but that's just delaying the inevitable....Men are typically more desperate to get with a woman, and would put up with the burden, so honestly just being honest from the start would just be a better option, as the woman would still get a decent amount of matches despite having a kid. That way things would be transparent and expectations would be set.
| @DoctorWasabi I don’t think Gonda saw her dating profile. IIRC, Gonda said that no responded when he contacted people thru their profiles, but the dating app has a community area where people with similar interests could meet and talk. When they first met, they didn’t know what each other looked like. She hid the fact that she is a single parent, but she didn’t lie on her profile. By meeting in the community instead of the dating profiles, is there an expectation that to meet is to start a romantic relationship? It’s not clear because there’s no profile so users don’t know the sexual orientation of the other people in the community. Maybe it’s just unsaid. |
Reply to DoctorWasabi
I find it weird that nobody here has noticed the fact that the girl just outright lied to our big man. Not putting that you are a single mother on your dating profile from the start is SO disingenuous and deceptive. 90% of men do NOT want to raise another mans child, for a multitude of reasons. So just pretending that you have normal circumstances and leading on guys like that is so bad.
I can see maybe she didn't put it on there, because well like I said, most men do not want anything to do with a single mother ( rightfully so ) and by hiding this fact she gets a lot more dates.....but that's just delaying the inevitable....Men are typically more desperate to get with a woman, and would put up with the burden, so honestly just being honest from the start would just be a better option, as the woman would still get a decent amount of matches despite having a kid. That way things would be transparent and expectations would be set.
I can see maybe she didn't put it on there, because well like I said, most men do not want anything to do with a single mother ( rightfully so ) and by hiding this fact she gets a lot more dates.....but that's just delaying the inevitable....Men are typically more desperate to get with a woman, and would put up with the burden, so honestly just being honest from the start would just be a better option, as the woman would still get a decent amount of matches despite having a kid. That way things would be transparent and expectations would be set.
| @DoctorWasabi They meet in a community for fans of an idol, not through the matching of the app. Is like if you met a user in here, not the place to specify. She even treated him right as a friend and not as dates for the little we saw and the moment he wanted to be involved romantically the first thing she did is make sure he knew what he was getting into, so your analysis feels wrong and the opposite of the truth. That said, she, or not exactly she but her friend, lied in a big thing. The friend said that this girl would never use her child as a mean of deterring a man for trying to go out with her, but she gave him less than a fucking minute to process everything in front of his eyes before leaving with a "I thought so" and by the time the dude has fully processed and is going to answer the question she sends another woman in her place. Bad faith behaviour right there in that front. |
| Waifus only represent ideals |
| These side characters are soooooo boring and ugly. Why don't just focus on the main couple already |
| Wait this was thus early? Thought it was somewhere around the middle. Anyway that was a short live romance. |
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| Nah this is just so sad for Gon.. I mean even though she has a child I feel like they would be a good couple, but if she doesn't want it that's how it is... |
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| BRO DODGED A BULLET!!! That's just life in the modern era, you think you've met a wonderful girl in her 20's, you connect and talk a lot, then BOOM!!! She's used goods. No sir no sir thanks but no thanks. Also dating apps are a scam. |
| This episode revolves around Gonda, yeah literally only Gonda. He's trying so hard to find a partner through a dating app. However, this time is also a historic event for him. I feel bad for him, but that was an important lesson for him. |
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