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| Fuck me that got dark pretty fast. Kinda glad last month I was telling some wanna be this is not a show for children! |
 To have you, Id give a billion lives A-Chan best girl |
| It blew my mind. I did not expect Robin's attitude or the attack. |
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| Okay I was not expecting that of all things, fuck. |
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| This episode is gonna be quite controversial, for sure gave me a uneasy feeling, as it should I suppose. |
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| WTF dude... As an anime only i thought the worst thing that could happen in this ep was Robin being revealed as the doctor who has taken over his body not fucking rape bruh. Goddamnit kiruko why did you not suspect a thing jfc That's fucked up man. I was hoping Maru would secretly follow. Of all the times he picked to be decent and this happens |
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| Heavy episode. Studio did an amazing job, with censoring too. |
| that ending was so disturbing and left me with such a gross feeling. i was thinking about reading the manga after next episode, but with everyone saying this was highly censored compared to the manga, im a little wary to read it now. i saw someone else mention it and was thinking it myself too, but with how easily robin did that and didn't seem to have any problems with it, i feel like he probably did it to kiriko in the past too. poor maru is probably going to beat himself up for not trying to go with kiruko if he finds out what happened. i hope he goes after robin and beats his ass. robin deserves death for what he did |
KennaIsANerdJun 17, 2023 8:46 AM
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KyotoSadness said: I don't see why it should be controversial, on the contrary. I am glad that it stepped over the shadow of "the outside world is dangerous because of the fantastical monsters out there" panel and showed us a "real" monster you could really run into. It was brutal, just like the world they are living in - I loved how at the same time it was contrasted with the beauty of the same world the kids found outside.This episode is gonna be quite controversial, for sure gave me a uneasy feeling, as it should I suppose. |
IshitatesoJun 17, 2023 8:17 AM
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| Well.....it happened, Robin is truly trash dude, how can you go that bad. And the others finally see the outside world. |
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| I said it before and i'll say it again, but i don't get what everyone's flipping over here, what was described in episode 9 was a far worse situation. |
Tsubasavo said: WTF dude... As an anime only i thought the worst thing that could happen in this ep was Robin being revealed as the doctor who has taken over his body not fucking rape bruh. Goddamnit kiruko why did you not suspect a thing jfc That's fucked up man. I was hoping Maru would secretly follow. Of all the times he picked to be decent and this happens Did you like, miss episode 9..? |
mkzxwing said: Tsubasavo said: WTF dude... As an anime only i thought the worst thing that could happen in this ep was Robin being revealed as the doctor who has taken over his body not fucking rape bruh. Goddamnit kiruko why did you not suspect a thing jfc That's fucked up man. I was hoping Maru would secretly follow. Of all the times he picked to be decent and this happens Did you like, miss episode 9..? uhh no.. why do you ask? |
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milowatch said: DeeDubz12 said: I trust the writing in this show but i just cant find any fathomable reason robin would do that(NO SPOILERS) well isn't that how it's in real life too. It happens out of nowhere and for no reason to many people. Also we don't know anything about Robin except through the eyes of Haruki. Sometimes it's the people you trust the most that unfortunately turn out to be monsters. And i guess this was just a social commentary about the horrors of r*p*. Yes it's cruel, but it's also unfortunately a reality for millions of people in our world. And for an anime like Heavenly Delusion that has so far explored many themes, especially pertaining to sexuality, it's not surprising that this was also included. What... WHAT?? No, it absolutely doesn't happen out of nowhere (outside of it being done by strangers grabbing someone off the street, but these are much more rare cases). As you said 'people you know turn out to be monsters', but there's ALWAYS warning signs to that, its that most don't know where to look, as they weren't taught to understand and judge dysfunctional behavior, usually raised in dysfunctional and/or lacking homes themselves. Also why do you talk as if its something new in the series, did you miss episode 9..? Guess mass rape with slavery doesn't count cuz they're men or something eh... |
| Robin.. I figured he wasn't a great guy, but christ he's a scumbag.. Poor Haruki / Kiruko. Haruki idolised Robin for so long and it seems he has likely raped Kiruko in the past too. I hope Robin dies a horrible death soon. |
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"I thought the worst thing that could happen (is not rape)" but episode 9 had a GROUP of men enslaved and raped. |
| so many things to say,it,as another great episode!!! |
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mkzxwing said: "I thought the worst thing that could happen (is not rape)" but episode 9 had a GROUP of men enslaved and raped. I think Shino shooting himself in the head after Mimihime (or I would say what had been left or her) was finaly killed by Maru was way more brutal in episode 8. The previous episode made it clear that they were whom we saw then. |
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| Literally my thoughts in the last 3-4 mins of the episode: HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK. Finally they adapted the disturbing part, I find myself overreacting to it while I was watching it, not in a bad way. Overall though, the mystery thickens yet again. And lastly, Fuck you Robin. |
mkzxwing said: ?? I said the worst thing that could happen "in this ep" tho"I thought the worst thing that could happen (is not rape)" but episode 9 had a GROUP of men enslaved and raped. |
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| i really want to see which test that is and also the old lady in the wheelchair can runn that was random. So robin is not the same person as he was before to see kiruko and hiraku in the same body what a disturbing episode. |
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Ishitateso said: mkzxwing said: "I thought the worst thing that could happen (is not rape)" but episode 9 had a GROUP of men enslaved and raped. I think Shino shooting himself in the head after Mimihime (or I would say what had been left or her) was finaly killed by Maru was way more brutal in episode 8. The previous episode made it clear that they were whom we saw then. You're comparing apples to oranges here though. I'm comparing the same act and its scale, and its pretty much episode 9 showed more in detail but still way less bad. |
Tsubasavo said: mkzxwing said: ?? I said the worst thing that could happen "in this ep" tho"I thought the worst thing that could happen (is not rape)" but episode 9 had a GROUP of men enslaved and raped. ah, i see, guess i missed that |
Mengning said: Why thou. The story was fine without that shit. MarcosVTF said: OK guys, try to think about it for a moment at a different angle: You think watching fictional monsters killing or torturing humans is perfectly "normal" and "fun" entertainment, but if something happens that is "too real" in the sense that it actually could happen in the real world, and even the main character is not immune against it because we don't have any plot armor here, that is at once disgusting, unnecessary, offensive or I don't know what other shit you would call it.Seriously, who called for this? disgusting and unnecessary, what a disturbed author I would say it was hard to watch, but its contrasting with the beauty the kids found outside said a lot about the world they are or we are living in. |
IshitatesoJun 17, 2023 9:03 AM
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milowatch said: mkzxwing said: What... WHAT?? No, it absolutely doesn't happen out of nowhere (outside of it being done by strangers grabbing someone off the street, but these are much more rare cases). As you said 'people you know turn out to be monsters', but there's ALWAYS warning signs to that, its that most don't know where to look, as they weren't taught to understand and judge dysfunctional behavior, usually raised in dysfunctional and/or lacking homes themselves. Also why do you talk as if its something new in the series, did you miss episode 9..? Guess mass rape with slavery doesn't count cuz they're men or something eh... And that's my point. No I don't find this episode controversial and its probably is more disturbing cause it visually shows the act especially towards a main character we've followed closely instead of just describing it. Yes r*p* was also described in episode 9 but then it was still an "is it true or not" scenario and before it was actually confirmed to be true we were unfortunately bombarded with other information so I do realise the gravity of the situation wasn't fully registered. Also visuals tend to affect people more than words so this episode might have been more impactful. Coming to my point about Robin and the r*pe out of nowhere, while there are signs you could register most often than not the victims are blindsided due to their age or their trust in the perpetrator and I'm talking from first hand experience. It's always hindsight 20/20 and what you're saying sounds very victim blamey. Outside looking in maybe you could see the red flags but Haruki who's known him seemingly sparingly, looked up to him and then met him after years, yes it's out of nowhere since we've always followed his perspective and that's unfortunately a normal occurrence for many. It wasn't a 'true or not' scenario, because it was later shown as true, and even showed some more memories and the group of escaped victims. I mean yes, its a main character here, and yes, the other episode didn't actually showed it much or let the viewer think about it a lot, but still, people reacting so much more strongly to this than the other case is just plain hypocritical. Also that's the anime, the manga was even more graphic and the response was far stronger there too as i heard, but in the manga the episode 9 scenario was far more detailed too, but still didn't really cause any response. As per the rape question, no, its not the age, nor trust that play the main factor, but as i said, the inability to recognize the threat, flags, and also a bad connection with their parents, which just comes by default for people who get victimized as their parents either didn't prepare them for this and life due to neglect, or their own inability and lack of knowledge of these things which still makes them horrible parents that a child will not rely on. Often there's also a lack of self importance and/or needing to keep visuals at play, which again, comes to the parent inability to instill a lack of self importance in the child and putting visuals of various things over their interests. That's all as far as kids go, but for adults its the same, except they rely on their parents even more due to the inability to do so as kids, and being grown up and the stigma that makes going to the parents even less acceptable, but nowhere else to turn and not knowing what else to do. Its not at all 20/20 hindsight either, i can literally talk to a person for a couple days and tell you what they're capable of, what their problems are, what their relationship with their parents is like, if said parents where okay, good or bad, and if said person is safe to be around, and worth being around. Of course, i did study it for a couple years now independently to fill one of the many gaps left by my own shitty raising, to be safer, and to keep those dear to me now and in the future safe, but its no special magic or specialized, hard to obtain forbidden or inaccessible knowledge you need a professor degree in psychology for. Also how is it victim blaming at all? All the fault of that with kids is on the parents for failing them, and obviously the rapist in no lessened degree than it was before. With adults its pretty much the same, though they have a slight growing responsibility to know better... Its still miniscule compared to the rapeist and parent blame though. As per this exact scenario... Its just fiction. Of course there's not gonna be any flags unless the artist is at all aware of the context of these things and works them in, which is why i hate rape in media, it indeed often makes it seem like it came out of nowhere. |
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| Everything that exists and happens in Heavenly Delusion has a reason to be, I hope what happened in the last 2 minutes is no exception to that and does have a purpose. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
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