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Jun 3, 2016 12:06 PM

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Once again we have the weekly moaner winger & whiners. Please just stop watching if you don't like it, just stop bitching about every little thing every fecking week. If this wasn't a WIT production it wouldn't get anywhere near the level of critique it gets on here.

Oooh I don't like it because there is another bad guy. Boo hoo, go & watch Naruto. Honestly I don't know what people expected from this series.

Guess what? I think this show is amazing both in production story & music score. Heading for a rare 10/10 from me.


And i don't know what you expect form a thread called Koutetsujou no Kabaneri Episode 8 Discussion.

"Don't like it don't watch it" ? If that is really a thing then there woudn't be stuff like critical reviews and ratings......oh how about this?

If you don't like the bad comments, DON'T READ THEM! DON'T EVEN COME TO THIS THREAD EVEN!

See? Did you like it? I used your little formula against you...Do you agree with your own formula? Go reflex about it a little ;)


Whining, nitpicking and bashing is not a discussion.
Jun 3, 2016 12:10 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
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And i don't know what you expect form a thread called Koutetsujou no Kabaneri Episode 8 Discussion.

"Don't like it don't watch it" ? If that is really a thing then there woudn't be stuff like critical reviews and ratings......oh how about this?

If you don't like the bad comments, DON'T READ THEM! DON'T EVEN COME TO THIS THREAD EVEN!

See? Did you like it? I used your little formula against you...Do you agree with your own formula? Go reflex about it a little ;)


Whining, nitpicking and bashing is not a discussion.


All discussions need a starting point, it can be either a compliment or the Whining, nitpicking and bashing stuff we talkin about; they are basically needed for a discussion, so there's no problem with them being here.
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Jun 3, 2016 12:10 PM

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If you come on a forum to bitch about a show every week you clearly don't like it. There is nothing wrong with critique but it has to me measured & fair which yours clearly isn't. I'm guessing you hate this show because it's popular (though i'm sure you will reel of some amazing inconsistencies and reasons why the show is 'dumb' or 'stupid')

Maybe I should just come on here when it's past your bedtime anyway.
Jun 3, 2016 12:13 PM

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I don't see Biba as a villain. At the moment, he's more like an anti-hero. I don't think he enjoys killing per se, it was more like getting his revenge imo. Plus it was self-defense, at least killing the old guy was.
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Jun 3, 2016 12:19 PM

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Crashmatt said:
If you come on a forum to bitch about a show every week you clearly don't like it. There is nothing wrong with critique but it has to me measured & fair which yours clearly isn't. I'm guessing you hate this show because it's popular (though i'm sure you will reel of some amazing inconsistencies and reasons why the show is 'dumb' or 'stupid')

Maybe I should just come on here when it's past your bedtime anyway.


Eh, no, don't go assuming I hate this show cuz went against your view, on the contrary i quite enjoy it; For instance, if you go to all the other threads of this anime, you will find me most of the time defending the show.

And that's what I'm trying to say; Jus cuz they dislike the show doesn't mean they have to stop watching it or keep the critics for themselves; They have all the right to keep watching it to the end and keep pointing their problems with it.
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Jun 3, 2016 12:22 PM

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Such an intense episode!
Can't wait for the next one.
Jun 3, 2016 12:25 PM

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HyperL said:
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If you come on a forum to bitch about a show every week you clearly don't like it. There is nothing wrong with critique but it has to me measured & fair which yours clearly isn't. I'm guessing you hate this show because it's popular (though i'm sure you will reel of some amazing inconsistencies and reasons why the show is 'dumb' or 'stupid')

Maybe I should just come on here when it's past your bedtime anyway.


Eh, no, don't go assuming I hate this show cuz went against your view, on the contrary i quite enjoy it; For instance, if you go to all the other threads of this anime, you will find me most of the time defending the show.

And that's what I'm trying to say; Jus cuz they dislike the show doesn't mean they have to stop watching it or keep the critics for themselves; They have all the right to keep watching it to the end and keep pointing their problems with it.


Firstly my original post was not solely aimed at you. Secondly you have a right to do / say what you want about a show as do I. My post was more of a general observation about certain posts over the course of the last 8 weeks hence why I didn't use any quote's

On on you final point, if people watch a show they dislike enough to come on here moan about it every week and continue watching it to the end, then they have far too much time on their hands and need to get out more.
Jun 3, 2016 12:27 PM

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Mumei stop acting like that :c
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Jun 3, 2016 12:40 PM

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So now it's wrong to watch a show to bash it? Let people be, you would be better off ignoring them and let their post sink into the last page.

People getting mad for nothing.
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Jun 3, 2016 12:42 PM

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Crashmatt said:
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Eh, no, don't go assuming I hate this show cuz went against your view, on the contrary i quite enjoy it; For instance, if you go to all the other threads of this anime, you will find me most of the time defending the show.

And that's what I'm trying to say; Jus cuz they dislike the show doesn't mean they have to stop watching it or keep the critics for themselves; They have all the right to keep watching it to the end and keep pointing their problems with it.


Firstly my original post was not solely aimed at you. Secondly you have a right to do / say what you want about a show as do I. My post was more of a general observation about certain posts over the course of the last 8 weeks hence why I didn't use any quote's

On on you final point, if people watch a show they dislike enough to come on here moan about it every week and continue watching it to the end, then they have far too much time on their hands and need to get out more.


Oh, sorry, I though the "yours" at your post was refering to me. (foreing problems)

But really, most people who critics here are not really haters, most of them have something to critic about and it's not like they pull their criticism out of their asses.
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Jun 3, 2016 12:51 PM

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We got a little bit of action from this episode. i think it was awsome and cool. and we got to see that asshole true color.

This episode just literally pissed me off so much. for the most reason is becasue of the "Strong and weak" topic which they were talking about in this episode. i'm just gonna be honest, that pissed me off so much, especially if that asshole was the one who was talking about it.

Mumei is my fav character from this anime, and it never gonna changes. but this episode, i just can't stand it, she really pissed me off this time in this episode even tho she is still my fav character. well, but it can't be helped for what just happened in her past. her past is a rip off from Mikasa's past in AoT btw.
>she killed the person with her own will
>the person who got killed is a human
90% rip off. the difference is that the one who said a words to encourage her to do that isn't the good guy instead the asshole bad guy.

this episode reall pissed me off so well but i enjoyed it :D
i find it quite interesting that they are hiding a huge amount of kabane inside their train. i know what they are doing with the kabane but.....yeah.....

and i don't really want mumei to do all of that as such asking to give her the master key if no, she will force her to give it to her. she got tricked, and there you go, the lovely misunderstanding which the most thing that pissed me off so much from this episode. i like the way they executed every Mumei's reaction for what was happening in this episode. cause, it fits well or she should made that kind of reaction based on her personality (upbeat and childish (?))

either way, enjoyable episode yet pissed me off so much.
looking foward for the next episode.
Jun 3, 2016 12:59 PM

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some shows are boring and you drop them, some shows like KnK have a strong appeal at least in the beginning, but they also make you irritated and frustrated. this is why so many people are criticizing this series. I am still drawn to this series even though I dislike many things about it. we're also quite deep into this season so I doubt I would drop it even if it got more worse, just so I can form an opinion of the entire season.
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I love when a character does something suspicious, like asking for the master key of the freaking train, and them get all upset because "they didn't trust me". I mean, no sh*t Sherlock! You go in the middle of the night asking for the MASTER KEY without any reason.
Pink hair guy is crazy. Of course. But I think he is going to be an anti-hero sorta.
Like, he and Ikoma have the same "ideal" but they want to achieve it by different means (or something along these lines, cant express myself really well xD)

Jun 3, 2016 1:30 PM

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Fighting scenes were really amazing & animation was top notch! However, I like this show, but honestly tho it's pretty predictable :/
Jun 3, 2016 1:40 PM
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The animation hasn't really been that consistent lately...
Jun 3, 2016 1:49 PM

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On_the_Lam said:
The animation hasn't really been that consistent lately...

yeah it was pretty sloppy in some areas and alot of still pictures. They def made some cuts
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L-Ryoshi said:
So 10 years ago, Biba served the Shogun with dedication, and earned the enmity of either the Shogun himself or his jealous retainers, who decided to screw him over by leaving him without support on the battlefield. After surviving that incident, he's become warped and had desired to power himself up with the likes of Kabane technology,..


That said, unless we find out that the reason the Shogun left him to die was that he was twisted before, the Shogun doesn't really qualify for the father of the year award either. The fact that the Shogun seems to be gearing up for full scale civil war, rather than getting his priorities straight and focussing on the Kabane, doesn't speak in his favour. It'd be really interesting if neither part turns out to be worth fighting for. Things tend to turn out like that in real life, but in anime, or any other media, it's usually good vs. evil.

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the dude with an american accent wasn't in this episode so it's a 0/10 for me


We did get another hardbody shot of Yukina in the background though, so more like 10/10

taynis said:
I love when a character does something suspicious, like asking for the master key of the freaking train, and them get all upset because "they didn't trust me". I mean, no sh*t Sherlock!


I think Biba only did/say that to confuse Mumei.

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Looks like biba might be the main antagonist in this series.


Really, his silhouette in the OP didn't gave it away priorly?
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Jun 3, 2016 2:17 PM

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Kabanes attack the city. What a coincidence.


I actually agree with this; there are ways to explain it such as "oh, the fireworks attracted them" or "oh, they followed the train from the last station to here"; But those are hardly implied and there's no information about Kabanes being attracted to flashes of light nor being able to track down a train from so far.

Producing anti-kabane swords has been proven to be easy but only Biba got it from his squad.

Anti-kabane guns are somehow frequently used but no one else knows its existence before.


That's what happens when your "Survey corps" are secretly a evil organization with a selfish goal. Since they don't actually care about the people, they hide their tecnology from the public and keep it for themselves. Futhermore, since they fight outside of stations, that was probably one of the few times they got to fight so close to one. I can't see why only Biba has a forged Kabane sword tho, since is so easy for them to obtain more.

Mumei’s personality changes 24/7.


Not really, she's always been like this. When in a good mood she acts inocent and sweet and stuff (Like when she plays with the other children), but press her buttons and she will activate 'Stubborn/Denial Mode'; She will then proceed to do whatever she wants and snap at everyone that tries to go against her belief (She activated her Denial mode for the first time when the late "Old Snake" messed with her). So she's actually been the same for the entire show...

Why does he use his power to kill people? It’s something a coward does.” Man, Ikoma please make some sense.


I think Ikoma's reasoning is close to what we thought of the train people in the beggining; They tried to get rid of the Kabaneri because they are a bunch of cowards that are afraid of being betrayed and killed. Tho that obviously don't apply to Biba cuz his reasons to kill are nothing more than pure hatred and a twisted view on the world.

The assassination itself is executed retardedly.


I don't know which of the many assasinations in this episode you are talkin about, but the only one that tickles me is the one from Mumei's flashback cuz it was definitely another AoT moment.

Why isn’t Ayame even in the loco when she has got the key to boot the train? She is such an important character because she got the key.

According to that Ayame got the key so the Biba squad must have been changed the train. But how have they transported such a big amount of Kabanes without getting realized?

Or why do they even need to switch the train when their older ones got repaired and is more suited for fighting since it got a special design for it?


Did you missed it? Biba squad didn't just came to Ayame's train, They detached one car from their own train and attached it to Ayame's...That car that they attached was the one full of kabanes and as long as no one inspected the car they were safe.

Now if that point is clear the other ones become more easy to explain. They were still in Ayame's train and Biba wanted the key so he could take control of the train anytime he feels like it. Why did he left his own train and wanted the control over Ayame's? Well, that I don't know, but he clearly had a mischievous smile when he offered to acompany the princess so that probably makes part of his ultimate evil plan.
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Jun 3, 2016 2:38 PM

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I'm still scratching my head at why Ikoma's steam weapon was supposed to be revolutionary when these guys are sniping Kabane from hundreds of metres away whilst riding fuckin' motorbikes. It's not like they're some secret group that nobody has seen or heard of, so I can't really fathom why their techology is absolutely miles ahead. It's incredibly inconsistent in what has been invented and what hasn't.

The pink haired guy being a baddie would have been more interesting had Ikoma not spoiled it last episode. "Oh look a new character is introduced, he's badddd!!!" He pulled that reasoning out of his ass. Kinda bored of his save-everyone motto too. Getting angsty over an assassin dying is rather silly.

Still wondering at the science behind kabanes and kabaneris since there's still next to nothing that's actually been explained, but people being willingly infected to become kabaneris was rather interesting.
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Jun 3, 2016 2:39 PM

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HyperL said:
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Kabanes attack the city. What a coincidence.


I actually agree with this; there are ways to explain it such as "oh, the fireworks attracted them" or "oh, they followed the train from the last station to here"; But those are hardly implied and there's no information about Kabanes being attracted to flashes of light nor being able to track down a train from so far.


Lol, wut?

It is clearly shown that the Shogun's assassins lured the Kabane to the station, using corpses pulled by horses, in order to draw Biba (jeez, what a pimp name by the way) out into the open.
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HyperL said:
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I actually agree with this; there are ways to explain it such as "oh, the fireworks attracted them" or "oh, they followed the train from the last station to here"; But those are hardly implied and there's no information about Kabanes being attracted to flashes of light nor being able to track down a train from so far.


Lol, wut?

It is clearly shown that the Shogun's assassins lured the Kabane to the station, using corpses pulled by horses, in order to draw Biba (jeez, what a pimp name by the way) out into the open.

I guess even this series is difficult for some to understand...
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Laionidas said:
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I actually agree with this; there are ways to explain it such as "oh, the fireworks attracted them" or "oh, they followed the train from the last station to here"; But those are hardly implied and there's no information about Kabanes being attracted to flashes of light nor being able to track down a train from so far.


Lol, wut?

It is clearly shown that the Shogun's assassins lured the Kabane to the station, using corpses pulled by horses, in order to draw Biba (jeez, what a pimp name by the way) out into the open.


Wait...so those dead horses were a bait for the kabane and not just some battle residue? WTF? Man this anime is too much visual based, they expect us to catch all of that just from images in the first go?
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Mumei is quite attached to Biba, huh.

I actually disliked him at first, then he went badass during the battle, then he became an ass in the end. I don't know what to feel about him. He's interesting lol Makes me wonder why he didn't decide to transform himself unless..... <_<

The guy with the blue-green hair (His name in kanji 瓜生 Uryuu). I quite like him. Hearing IshiKai voicing him was quite a surprise, but wonderful. That ikebo =u=<3
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Can't say I like these "Hunters", but I have to say that these people are damn skilled and not something you should mess with. Not sure what to think of Biba, but I definitely don't like him. Now just wait to see his story unfold. Decent episode.


Jun 3, 2016 3:41 PM

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miyano dark mamoru is here!!! things are getting good.....
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Great episode alot of stuff with mumei and biba seemed kinda predictable but I don't mind it. You could tell she would do anything he told her to do. I wonder if ikoma is falling for her or just wants to protect her? I am leaning towards a ship.

It's almost obvious that the Kabane are going to break out of the train. I think that's the next big drama to happen.

Ikoma and biba are going to throw down for good here soon and Mumei will have to chose one of them. My guess is that's the cliff hanger for the end of ep12.

A really good show, wish it was 24 episodes though.
Jun 3, 2016 3:55 PM
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I know that Biba's a jerk and all, but I don't mind that. I'm just kinda disappointed in Mumei...
Jun 3, 2016 3:57 PM
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HyperL said:
Laionidas said:


Lol, wut?

It is clearly shown that the Shogun's assassins lured the Kabane to the station, using corpses pulled by horses, in order to draw Biba (jeez, what a pimp name by the way) out into the open.


Wait...so those dead horses were a bait for the kabane and not just some battle residue? WTF? Man this anime is too much visual based, they expect us to catch all of that just from images in the first go?


It was not just visual . It was clearly stated.

Immediately after showing the horse and 3 humans tied to it, the scene shifted to
the conspirators of the assassination attempt on Biba.

Hirotsuka was visibly upset saying "They brought the kabane here on purpose putting our people in danger."
The other guy replied, "Not to worry. The hunters will take care of the kabane. And the Liberator will join the battle. And when he does... "


The kabane were lured there as bait for the opportunity to get Biba out there alone (separated from his team) , giving the assassin a better chance.
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HyperL said:


Wait...so those dead horses were a bait for the kabane and not just some battle residue? WTF? Man this anime is too much visual based, they expect us to catch all of that just from images in the first go?


It was not just visual . It was clearly stated.

Immediately after showing the horse and 3 humans tied to it, the scene shifted to
the conspirators of the assassination attempt on Biba.

Hirotsuka was visibly upset saying "They brought the kabane here on purpose putting our people in danger."
The other guy replied, "Not to worry. The hunters will take care of the kabane. And the Liberator will join the battle. And when he does... "


The kabane were lured there as bait for the opportunity to get Biba out there alone (separated from his team) , giving the assassin a better chance.


Yeah, i see it now...i just didn't linked the image of the dead horse and people with bait, so I didn't get how the kabane was lured; Had they said "Oh, they used the horse with dead people to lure the kabane" or something I would've understand it immediately. You can't miss any hints in this anime.
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Biba knew he was not a hero. I've getting the idea that Biba thinks he can control the Kabane with that blue heart thing which that black smoke Kabneri had. All he needs i guess is someone loyal & a kabneri i guess.
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Nice episode! Definitely very intense. Ikoma sure has some balls to repeatedly disrespect Biba lol. Didn't even pad his words or anything with pleasantries, just waled straight up to him like, "why did u manipulate my homegirl at a young age???" lmfao.

Biba may look like the villain rn, but there is still a possibility he might not end up the "true" villain in this situation. From what he was asking those men, I feel like it was implied/hinted at, that he was left to die (along some of his own friends/loved ones) at the hands of the Kabane, and I'm sure that experience has warped his personality. His comments about "lying" and "betrayal" make me think that experience probably emotionally damaged him, and most emotionally damaged people with too much power end up being corrupted lol.

It's kind of amusing/annoying how both Biba and Mumei were so quick to write off the people on the train though. Looks like he doesn't care very much about earning people's trust or being a diplomat, but I still don't see why they are so shocked that Ayame wouldn't give away the key so quickly, especially without being told the reason why.

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It's funny when Mumei said strong people don't depend on anyone, and just trust in its own strength, but she herself often calls for her brother's name. Lol.

Lol exactly. Though I'm sure her "ani-sama" said something like "don't rely on anyone" and then turned right back around and told her to do as he says, otherwise she'd die. I'm pretty sure he was just using her, and has manipulated her from a very young age, so it's no surprise she acts like this though. I think people forget that Mumei might be only 12 years old, or at the very least, considerably young.

I am beginning to get invested in this anime, which is kind of a shame since it only has 12 episodes. I hope there is a second season already in the works, otherwise my biggest fear for this series it that in an effort to finish it's story, it'll rush it and ruin the buildup it's been creating.
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It's bad because it turned a FUCKING CHILD into a fucking machine.



Dude, even in our world we use children as soldiers in africa and middle east. And we don't even have a single kabane.

If our world enters zombie apocalypse then FUCK even I will be the first to line up in that experiment.


Why would you bring in african and middle eastern child soldiers into your argument? I fail to see how the occurrence of child soldiers in our own world makes taking a young child and clearly using her in a derisive way to turn her into a killing machine justified? Please enlighten me because i'm seriously confused how on earth you would think that saying "well we do fucked up shit in our world too!" somehow makes real child soldiers as well as fictional child soldiers justified. I'm seriously struggling to even wrap my mind around what I just read lmfao.
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So nobody has thought, for a second, that you should expect personalities like Mumei or Ikoma in a teenager?


I'm not saying that they are written solidly, but Mumei at least has always been inmature, so this "brainwash" you claim (which a lazy way to call it) is consistent with her character.


I agree. Not saying their characterizations are a masterpiece, but many people do things that defy logic at 12 years old without being manipulated and brainwashed at a very young age lmfao. Now imagine seeing your mother killed before your own eyes and having someone save you and seemingly "liberate you" from your weak state. To Mumei, Biba gave her the tools to become strong and no longer be weak, therefore in a way giving her the right to live. Obviously, what Biba has done isn't morally or ethically right, but I do think there might be more complexities going o with his character. Regardless of his reasons, at 12, it's no surprise Mumei reverted back to her original state. That's what happens to most people who spend years being abused and manipulated. It takes a little longer than a train ride to unlearn years of brainwashing lol.

There will probably be some future event that reveals Biba's nature to Mumei. It might be beautifully done, or it might be terrible done, but Mumei's behavior isn't outside of the realms of logic.
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They really done it with this episode. lol
Biba is villain WOW everyone surprise, next Ikoma will use his talk no jutsu to Mumei.
Who the writer again ?
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Ikoma getting more and more annoying by the episode and the VA kinda annoys me as well, this epiosde was pretty meh
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lmao i was wondering about this the whole episode like wtf


The general populace treats them like heroes. They would bypass inspections and everything with that reputation. It's not that hard to understand =_=
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lmao i was wondering about this the whole episode like wtf


The general populace treats them like heroes. They would bypass inspections and everything with that reputation. It's not that hard to understand =_=


I suppose that makes sense but nobody says anything? I like the show for the most part but this episode was just off to me
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andy97 said:
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The general populace treats them like heroes. They would bypass inspections and everything with that reputation. It's not that hard to understand =_=


I suppose that makes sense but nobody says anything? I like the show for the most part but this episode was just off to me


Given that they had no problem kidnapping the LORD of the station, anyone who questioned them would vanish just as conveniently and no one would be any the wiser.
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Dude, even in our world we use children as soldiers in africa and middle east. And we don't even have a single kabane.

If our world enters zombie apocalypse then FUCK even I will be the first to line up in that experiment.


Why would you bring in african and middle eastern child soldiers into your argument? I fail to see how the occurrence of child soldiers in our own world makes taking a young child and clearly using her in a derisive way to turn her into a killing machine justified? Please enlighten me because i'm seriously confused how on earth you would think that saying "well we do fucked up shit in our world too!" somehow makes real child soldiers as well as fictional child soldiers justified. I'm seriously struggling to even wrap my mind around what I just read lmfao.




Hahaha ....first world problems tsk..tsk..tsk
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Baka-Hiru said:


Hahaha ....first world problems tsk..tsk..tsk


the tragedy of child soldiers = first world problems ....ok, lol........
I couldn't think of anything cool to put here.
Jun 3, 2016 7:18 PM

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Some of the negative comments and questions was answered/ shown by the show itself.

If you want to critique the show, you should watch the show properly, or your comments only show your stupidity

Thanks
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And Mumei is back in moody bitch mode, great.
It's like when she has her yukata and twintails she's likable and when she goes Kabaneri mode she just turns completely insufferable.
Jun 3, 2016 7:37 PM

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Damn it Mumei... thought the first half of the series was enough to change her. Hopefully be released from Biba's brainwashing by next episode.
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I agree with you. The line between invented/revolutional technlogiy and old one is not clear in this show, although as far as I know, they've explained some backgrounds (not detail) of the series in their website. Such as: a little bit about origin of kabaneri in Japan, what is the Bushi weapon, how it works, etc.

But, not all people see the site, they've to mention it in the show. XD

Maybe it's the matter of perspective. We as viewers watch it from Ikoma and friend who do not know about "outside world" LOL somehow It reminds me of Gurren Lagann since Simon lived in underground and he didint realize some crazy things happened out there.
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the dude with an american accent wasn't in this episode so it's a 0/10 for me
only character that matters.


but seriously who needs horses when you have motorcycles ...wait why do they have motorcycles.
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tinybunnvevo said:
Baka-Hiru said:


Hahaha ....first world problems tsk..tsk..tsk


the tragedy of child soldiers = first world problems ....ok, lol........


*Sigh........fine I'll elaborate because just like you first world people FAIL to understand.

First you have to understand that even I believe what they do are unethical, immoral, bad or just plain unjustifiable......However, it is very much UNDERSTANDABLE. You have to see the big difference between justifiable and understandable.

First world countries have systems that protect the lives of most ordinary people so that if they give their children a gun they will be frowned upon by society or even jailed.

However, if you live in war torn countries where any day bandits can steal, kill or rape your children and there is no government to protect you. then giving your daughter a gun for her own protection is the rational thing to do. Or that children in Africa would rather hold a gun and fight than live a life worst than dogs.


So you have to parallel their circumstances to this anime. If Mumei is just attending typical anime highschool and still gets experimented then I'll agree with you that what Biba did was bad for Mumei. Unfortunately she lives in a world far worst than africa or the middle east.

You simply cannot talk smugly about ethics if you cannot even afford it.

#LikeBIBA
Jun 3, 2016 8:41 PM

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That moment when Mumei and that other girl cooperated to kill that Kabane! FTW!!
Biba's team is so badass killing Kabanes.
But as it seems he is not so good as he seems, he wants the Koutetsujou's key...we still don't know why but he probably wants to take over the train and maybe kill everyone...
Something strange is happening in that train and i can't wait to find out in the next episode xD

As we saw, he injected Kabane's "infection" into Mumei to save her?(since for him saving means becoming strong).
Damn i love Mumei but i hate when she is like this, she can be so stupid and blind sometimes...
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Baka-Hiru said:


*Sigh........fine I'll elaborate because just like you first world people FAIL to understand.

First you have to understand that even I believe what they do are unethical, immoral, bad or just plain unjustifiable......However, it is very much UNDERSTANDABLE. You have to see the big difference between justifiable and understandable.

First world countries have systems that protect the lives of most ordinary people so that if they give their children a gun they will be frowned upon by society or even jailed.

However, if you live in war torn countries where any day bandits can steal, kill or rape your children and there is no government to protect you. then giving your daughter a gun for her own protection is the rational thing to do. Or that children in Africa would rather hold a gun and fight than live a life worst than dogs.


So you have to parallel their circumstances to this anime. If Mumei is just attending typical anime highschool and still gets experimented then I'll agree with you that what Biba did was bad for Mumei. Unfortunately she lives in a world far worst than africa or the middle east.

You simply cannot talk smugly about ethic if you cannot even afford it.

#LikeBIBA


I do want to say that when faced with harsh circumstances people will do what they have to do when trying to survive in war ridden areas. However just because you understand doesn't meant you can't acknowledge how serious and tragic things like war is especially for children who often get caught up in the crossfires of trained soldiers.

Your response here has a lot of empathy, which your original comment lacked, which is why I responded in the way I did. Children being hurt is really a sore spot for me. Thanks for actually explaining yourself as opposed to writing me off, because I really didn't understand what your comment. (it not only upset me but it also confused me).

I don't think having Mumei be up for that experiment makes as much sense as turning an adult into a Kabaneri, nor is it really right to ask that of a child. I'm sure there are plenty of young adults Biba could have saved and used in his experiments. The only "advantage" i can see to using her as a Kabaneri instead of just protecting her is because she is so young she is easily manipulated- which again, is what this whole situation with Biba reeks of. He's not even just giving her a steam gun, he's physically altering her body (knowing she might become a monster) and sending her into battle while he has the option of raising her like a child. Even if he didn't want to raise her himself, he could have sent her away to a safer stronghold to try and live out her life. Biba is not your everday poor parent in a 3rd world country who's trying to protect their children. He's obviously a powerful man and I'm under the impression that he's grown up with some privilege (I could be wrong tho, but Ayame did ask him about I think the Shogun before he said he'd been disowned). That's why I don't think you can really compare their situations.

Again, Biba did more tham simply hand her a gun, he re-named her and re-shaped her identity for his own personal use. Wether he had good intentions or not, I don't know yet, but Mumei obviously has some issues going on with her behavior and the way she relates to other people, and a lot of that has to do with the way Biba has taught her to be. Maybe this comes from his own experience, (since i'm sensing a theme of betrayal here), but projecting your own experiences onto children never works out and is wrong. That's how I feel about this.
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Andes-Chucky said:
Some of the negative comments and questions was answered/ shown by the show itself.

If you want to critique the show, you should watch the show properly, or your comments only show your stupidity

Thanks


You know, it's easy to turn off critique when you deny yourself of the existence of the flaws.

This show has a shit ton of flaws.

Have a nice day.
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Man they really pushed too hard in painting Biba as the bad guy, kinda disturbing tbh..

In addition, Mumei's character development has gone backwards + Ikoma lost a few brain cells with all that static reasoning.
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