| Well I'm probably gonna give the show a 7/10 after I watch a few more episodes, so I can't complain about it getting such rating, but I get your point and I think it's because of two reasons: 1- All other Kyoto Animation shows are just too good, or at least most of them. 2- It's airing in the generation of hate, seriously MAL users these days... |
| For me personally no. I gave it a 7/10. It's not amazing but it's enjoyable. Chuu2 Ren and Hyouka are the worst kyoani shows to me. |
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| atleast it doesnt have an idiotic cast like Hyouka did where the MC jst gets pushed around by his idiot friends all the time and the heroine....ugh... |
TitanAnteus said: Nothing went wrong. Kyoani got new fans who got stuck to them after they watched Euphonium, Free and Hyouka. This anime is nothing like any of those 3 therefore they drop it at episode 1. If they say they dislike it because of fanservice, then they've never seen Haruhi or Full Metal Panic Fumoffu or even Amagi most likely, therefore they haven't added their opinions on those series. If they say they dislike the art, you know it's coming out of their ass. The only reason to dislike this show is if you don't find the comedy entertaining or you dislike the characters. To be honest, I can't understand the character hate, nor the comedy hate really. The show is definitely aimless though, but that's not really a fault it has. It's just what it is. Mushi shi is aimless and so is Hyouka for the most part. Meh, people hate things too easily. This is a pretty dumb line of reasoning. You can't judge an anime based by 1 episode alone, everyone knows that. And the start of Phantom wasn't even butchered or anything. I don't think that the fanservice itself is the problem, its rather the way the fanservice is used and presented. FMP had quite likable characters and the fanservice was used like a seasoning while in Phantom EP 8 it was a full out 20min assault of repetetiv fanservice that just seems to scream: "We know you are pathetic virgins, this is what your peasant kind like, isn't it?" It's however oddly amusing to see Ecchi-Fans jump to it's defense calling it "trolling ecchi-haters" with wich they mean "people that are not sexually starved." The Art is great and i have never seen someone say otherwise. The characters however are all to familiar some of the girls being not much more than an indistinguishable stereotype. That, and the fact that the story is going nowhere really makes it an less than underwhelming experience to watch. |
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| if SAO is a 8/10 then this is a 10/10, I mean the animation is the saving grace of both but this is just more enjoyable than Kirito art online |
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Phosef_Phostar said: if SAO is a 8/10 then this is a 10/10, I mean the animation is the saving grace of both but this is just more enjoyable than Kirito art online Dude when did that Shirou vs Berserker happen? anyways on topic I guess its ok if KyoAni followed the story because it has a hell of a plot twist, they'll probably only animate the ending of vol 1 |
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Seppiroth32 said: a1 pictures by no mean impossible inferrior to kyoani. They are, they don't bother fixing their animation errors, poorly direct their shows, and have minimal budget due to much shows per season. Kyoto Animation do a show each 6-12 months depending on how they feel like it. They earn 2000x more than A-1. And they fix most of their animation mistakes properly, again, they stay consistent. With one staff handling almost all of their shows, character designs and such. This guy knows stuffs. |
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| Nope, Hyouka is the worst.. At least based on the ones I've seen. |
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| Whats with the Hyouka hating!? How can this be better than Hyouka? What on earth is happening here.. And I would never thought I would see a KyoAni show below score 6.00.. How tragic. |
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Katsu-kun said: Whats with the Hyouka hating!? How can this be better than Hyouka? What on earth is happening here.. And I would never thought I would see a KyoAni show below score 6.00.. How tragic. hey if u like seeing an MC getting pushed around the whole time and a heroine thats possibly the most annoying thing in existence then there's your reason |
Freestyle80 said: Katsu-kun said: Whats with the Hyouka hating!? How can this be better than Hyouka? What on earth is happening here.. And I would never thought I would see a KyoAni show below score 6.00.. How tragic. hey if u like seeing an MC getting pushed around the whole time and a heroine thats possibly the most annoying thing in existence then there's your reason And that's all you see there? How shallow.. |
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Katsu-kun said: Whats with the Hyouka hating!? How can this be better than Hyouka? Because it's not dull like Hyouka. That's a pretty good justification. |
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tsudecimo said: Katsu-kun said: Whats with the Hyouka hating!? How can this be better than Hyouka? Because it's not dull like Hyouka. That's a pretty good justification. What an a amazing justification.. |
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It's just as good of a justification as any other. |
| Hyouka was just really.. REALLY boring throughout. Musaigen is at least entertaining me to some extent. I'll give Hyouka this though: It probably has the best animation I've ever seen. |
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Katsu-kun said: Freestyle80 said: hey if u like seeing an MC getting pushed around the whole time and a heroine thats possibly the most annoying thing in existence then there's your reason And that's all you see there? How shallow.. shallow what? how am i supposed to enjoy other parts if the characters themselves piss me off? |
| i didnt know that a lot of people hate hyouka :O i agree it was boring but the mc ' Oreki ' saved this show |
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Freestyle80 said: shallow what? how am i supposed to enjoy other parts if the characters themselves piss me off? I admit that you can't watch something if the main characters are pretty much crap, annoying and full of bullshit, sorry for that, but that's it. Because comparing to Hyouka I've seen much more tragic and unforgivable personalities.. |
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Katsu-kun said: Freestyle80 said: shallow what? how am i supposed to enjoy other parts if the characters themselves piss me off? I admit that you can't watch something if the main characters are pretty much crap, annoying and full of bullshit, sorry for that, but that's it. Because comparing to Hyouka I've seen much more tragic and unforgivable personalities.. ofc there are many like that, first example that comes to mind would be Guilty Crown, I dont like these types of anime unless the story is actually that good, usually if its one or 2 side characters then who cares but if its someone on the main cast then it starts getting annoying i'll give u that Hyouka tries to do something new but if they jst toned down their abuse of the MC it'd have been nice and there was no need to make the main heroine so crap, some people might find it adorable but i cant tolerate it. and as for Mushigen, i'm not saying its awesome or anything but the fanservice is hardly as bad as shit like High School DxD, apparently there's also a twist at the end i've heard so been waiting for that too (though tbh they shuldnt drag it out for so long) |
Freestyle80 said: I absolutely despise High School DxD. Probably more than I hate Phantom because I actually gave it a shot and watched through all 3 seasons.People dissing this show probably ironically fans of shit like High School DxD lol |
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SeibaaMyuzu said: Freestyle80 said: I absolutely despise High School DxD. Probably more than I hate Phantom because I actually gave it a shot and watched through all 3 seasons.People dissing this show probably ironically fans of shit like High School DxD lol How? I actually like Phantom but couldn't get through DXD. |
| Meh, this show isn't that bad as long as you have no expectations for it... But honestly, it's not that rare for studios to put out trashy shows that sell a lot of merchandise or DVDs. I'd call them cash-flow shows. Ideally, it allows the studio some financial flexibility to take on riskier (but often better) projects. If a studio never or almost never put out any cash-flow shows, they'll probably go bankrupt eventually. |
PaleBlue said: Meh, this show isn't that bad as long as you have no expectations for it... But honestly, it's not that rare for studios to put out trashy shows that sell a lot of merchandise or DVDs. I'd call them cash-flow shows. Ideally, it allows the studio some financial flexibility to take on riskier (but often better) projects. If a studio never or almost never put out any cash-flow shows, they'll probably go bankrupt eventually. This doesn't fit with Kyo ani. This is estimated to be their worst selling show yet, so this is the opposite of cash flow show. |
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| Looking through their shows it beats Air of the ones of seen and auto-wins over stuff I've no interest in like Free or Clannad so...no, not worst. |
| The only other show I've seen from KyoAni is Euphonium, and this show and that show are completely different in terms of story-type. So far, I'm not really liking the show. It's one of the more unique generic LN adaptations in a school setting, but its too damn stupid and not even funny like Active Raid or Pandora. Also Ruru's the worst character of the season and you can't convince me otherwise. In its favor, the production values are pretty damn good, and some episodes are slightly better than others, but I don't particularly like any of the episodes thus far. (Episode 3 came close but its dull tsundere backstory) |
| I dun understand the hate of Hyouka... lol OT: I dunno if it's the worst show, but so far this series is the least enjoyable show compare to the other KyoAni shows that I have watched. |
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| No. Phantom world is not KyoAni's worst show. Chuunibyo Ren is easily worse. I would say Tamako Market, Kyoukai no Kanata, Air, Amagi Brilliant Park and Clannad are as bad as Phantom World as well. Also don't understand the random Hyouka hate. It's one of KyoAni's few good shows. |
| yeah it's worse than Kyoukai no Kanata, i'm truly impressed |
Freestyle80 said: atleast it doesnt have an idiotic cast like Hyouka did where the MC jst gets pushed around by his idiot friends all the time and the heroine....ugh... It actually baffles me that people can legitimately think that Hyouka is their worst show. Sure, you could dislike it but more so than this pandering garbage? Unbelievable. |
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Tozzy said: Freestyle80 said: atleast it doesnt have an idiotic cast like Hyouka did where the MC jst gets pushed around by his idiot friends all the time and the heroine....ugh... It actually baffles me that people can legitimately think that Hyouka is their worst show. Sure, you could dislike it but more so than this pandering garbage? Unbelievable. I didn't like Hyouka too, that series was just boring show with bad characters. But it certainly wasn't the worst anime KyoAni did and Musaigen isn't too (I would go as far as to say that it's at least better than Amagi). - Kyokai no Kanata was worse for example, its narrative part just exploded some 4-5 episodes in and I had to drop it to save myself from almost nonstop row of facepalms. - First Free wasn't bad but the second one was just pure incoherent hell. - The same for second Chuunibyou, with it, they made a series that was totally pointless. For me that sequel doesn't exists. - People tend to like Nichijou but for me, its first part was just terrible and way to random (thankfully that was redeem with its second half) - Tamako market had one of the most annoying characters (Dera) but the show itself was good. The movie without Dera was just brilliant. So no, it's not the worst show but definitely not good either. |
| So...why exactly do people hate this show? Do I have to be a long-time KyoAni follower to understand? |
| This is worst than the mentality/expectations people went with KnK. It's hard to call something bad when the show doesn't try to take itself seriously, even less so than KnK, at least there the show tried to have a focused plot that ended up being convoluted (still enjoyed the show a lot). I think most people are exaggerating. It's an enjoyable show that doesn't focus on a plot, so it's hard for it to have ''le bad writing''. I think people should stop going into shows with preconceived notions and expectations. It's the ecchi/harem anime syndrome, where people disregard what the show is trying to be and instead just judge it of what they want irregardless if it even aligns with the show's genre. Is phantom world great? no, but it also not terrible, unless you take it seriously. And it's cast of characters while not that explored and fleshed out are still decent characters with some development and have personalities, and are definitely not one dimensional like some people imply. But then again most people don't understand character depth and dimensions/layers and just latch on to whatever criticize the characters in a convenient way -shrug- |
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Tozzy said: Freestyle80 said: atleast it doesnt have an idiotic cast like Hyouka did where the MC jst gets pushed around by his idiot friends all the time and the heroine....ugh... It actually baffles me that people can legitimately think that Hyouka is their worst show. Sure, you could dislike it but more so than this pandering garbage? Unbelievable. yeah more so than 'this pandering garbage' because the MC here isnt f**king whipped and the girls here arent even half as annoying how many times do i say it? |
Azbest said: I wanted to watch it but with the score it has now, no way. Why does it get a low score? Bad Characters, dumb plot, fanservice driven?Well, the score is purely subjective so I would not pay too much attention to it. Especially when you check how many people judge according to their own scale, that does not follow MAL's fine/good/etc. The show itself is not very ambitious but that does not mean it's bad (and surely not the worst). Personally I enjoy it, though I would probably not want to watch it again. |
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| I don't know much about this KyoAni's anime, but if an anime has boring music, then then it most certainly sucks. |
| Uhmmm, it'd say it's a close competition with Tamako Market, but at least the latter had that KyoAni charm that I like. Phantom World seems like something any studio could have done. |
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WisestOne said: As I said - the score is often subjective. But as for why does is rated so lowly... I wanted to watch it but with the score it has now, no way. Why does it get a low score? Bad Characters, dumb plot, fanservice driven? Well, I gave it 6 because it's perfectly fine but nothing above that. It is not good enough for me to think I might watch it again in the future, but certainly not bad enough to drop it. I like the characters, especially Minase. It has fanservice, so for me it's point down, but it can be dealt with (id doesn't go far enough to call it ecchi). If I could decide again, to watch it or not, I still would. It has some episodes I liked more that this fine score, so it's worth it. But it doesn't of couse mean that it will apply to you as well. Looking at your list of completed anime I would say you might enjoy it so maybe, just maybe, it's worth trying. But not if you're expecting something superb of it. |
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TheLittleRedHero said: No, I hate the show because it's creatively bankrupt and all around completely awful. So awful that it makes even the worst of KyoAni's past failures look like rousing successes in comparison.Phantom World for people that hates it only hates it because of the lack of depth in the story, when a story doesn't need to be deep in order to be good. I mean even Tamako Market had a few genuinely really nice episodes in between the bird shit (Not to mention Tamako Love Story is amazing). AT LEAST KnK had some impressive action sequences, a likeable cast and a good sense of humour. It wasn't enough to redeem them in my eyes but at the very least it was enough for me to put them on a level much higher than the glut of generic crap you see every season. This has nothing. This is one of THOSE shows. A level that KyoAni have never stooped to before. And while KyoAni have too much good stuff coming up for me to truly say this is the end, I am still severely disappointed in them for finally giving up and going full retard. |
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| You know, this is actually a fun anime. Its actually pretty entertaining, and it has some smart moments, like teaching us something. I would go with the second season of Chuuni for the worst show. As for the most boring one, that would be Amagi Park (with the exception of the mascots). |
| I think it's the worst together with Chuu2 Ren, which I'm currently watching and probably dropping. Musaigen to me is like AmaBri, the plot is nothing exceptional and both of them contain loads of gags but the difference is that there are quite a few enjoyable and fun characters in AmaBri (i.e. the pink puppet(?) whose name I don't remenber) while all the characters in Musaigen are annoying (except Reina maybe) |
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| from what i've heard i highly suggest everyone who starts this series to watch till the end then save your rating for then (like you should anyway but w.e) i hear it's supposed to get really good and have some sort of plot instead of just the episodic type thing they have going on right now. |
| It's way better then Lucky Star, and Hibike, those two were terrible. It's no where near the best though. |
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alphastigma117 said: Most of the episodes have been filler.from what i've heard i highly suggest everyone who starts this series to watch till the end then save your rating for then (like you should anyway but w.e) i hear it's supposed to get really good and have some sort of plot instead of just the episodic type thing they have going on right now. |
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