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fendysu said: Someone please tell me whats the title of song played when ogiwara and the rest of GoM cheering Seirin ? Sorry for bad English. It's the 2nd ED (Teiko arc) of season 3: "Ambivalence" by SCREEN mode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crc46tkyv8o Evidence of Seirin's uncanny team chemistry vs Kirisaki Daiichi. Aomine ends his explanation with: IT'S TRUST. Maybe trust isn't the perfect word to describe what Seirin did. But it definitely has plenty to do with instinct and team chemistry. Take the kind of team chemistry Seirin already possess, add a 'true zone' powered conductor to the mix, you get that perfect synchronicity. It's more questionable why Seirin got stuck playing 1-on-1s with Rakuzan in the 2nd quarter instead of playing the Spurs kind of basketball they excel at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58dPzFDr0jg In the comments section.  Apparently Spurs were playing at the speed of the zone. :) Seriously though, it shows that the ball movement doesn't even have to be that fast for the eyes to be not able to follow or for the defenders to be disorientated. The passes just need to be continuous and unpredictable. Of course, if you actually speed up the passes, then the plays become even more unstoppable. |
TorribleJun 24, 2015 9:29 AM
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Plain_Otaku said: I cried when Kuroko cried , who else? I cried when they all realised the true zone and they worked as a team. Also the music helped this. I only really cry when it comes to bonds, friends or something everyone does and works as a team. It really touches my heart. I mean, sad things are sad, but this is one of the rare times when I cry and its out of reverence. |
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| Because I did twice before, and it wasn't going anywhere, and I had nothing more to say about the subject, so I don't see the point in going on circles. You might have explained the true zone, better than them, but it's still hard to swallow for me. Furtive_Pygmy said: Can I ask you what exactly you mean by the zone being cheapened and the writing being much more clever in the first season? It's unfair for you to call the logic of others flawed and then not elaborate on your points. Well nobody asked me to elaborate on that, and it's not relevant to this episode. But sure, I will share my thoughts. I think the zone is cheapened, because it now became something that can be triggered, yes from the reveal Kagami had a trigger that made him enter it, but it was natural, and wasn't as willingly as now, where he can enter it, even if his teamates aren't in a tough spot. Akashi seeing the showdown between and Kagami and Aomine, and then later forcing himself to enter it, and knowing the trigger, god knows who, just made it a cheap power up. And now Razuan can enter it, because of Akashi, though I understand it's nowhere near the real thing, it still shouldn't have happened, it makes it feel less special. This is why I think it became cheap. Other thoughts I have about the zone: tsudecimo said: I don't really like, what is happening to the zone, not just for the inconsistent explanations to it, and how they treat it, like trigger mode. But I especially dislike how those in the zone, talk normally/a lot during it, one of the great things about Kagami vs Aomine, was the body language and facial expression Kagami had, when he first entered the zone. I get goosebumps just thinking about it, how his face was so focused, and completely immersed, talking and having a normal face expression, ruins that effect for me. The clever writing I'm referring to, is the concept of Kuroko's character. I thought it was very unique, and it really drew me into the show. A basketball player, being bad at the basics, but still has a unique edge, that makes him a threat. When I first started the series, I was as surprised as Kagami to know that Kuroko is bad in normal basketball, but the concept of him excelling in passes and assistance, really caught my eyes, and made him a very interesting concept, referenced in the title of the series, in his motivations. But in the later season, the logic behind misdirection and lack of presence was being abused, which led to the vanishing drive and overflow. I also think the general idea of KnB is clever, it's basketball, but exaggerated, but still has some grounds on reality, which again, in the following season was abused. I think the first season is so great, that I gave it a 9, after I re-watched, and I honestly think it's better from entertainment, excitement, creativity, writing, etc than Slam Dunk. |
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| HOLY FUCK, plays from Seirin were looking damn fine! But does that justify having meh animation throughout the series, just for that few seconds? It might be satisfying for that few seconds, but outside of that? Hmm. What's with all the cheering? I cringed so hard. Bringing back the dude from the past? Meh. I won't even speak about all the sudden power-ups. Anyway, just one last episode. |
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ikuto said: Plain_Otaku said: I cried when Kuroko cried , who else? I cried when they all realised the true zone and they worked as a team. Also the music helped this. I only really cry when it comes to bonds, friends or something everyone does and works as a team. It really touches my heart. I mean, sad things are sad, but this is one of the rare times when I cry and its out of reverence. Same here Though I have a really soft spot for Aomine and Kuroko's relationship so I also cried when Aomine realized what he had abandoned T-T It really broke my heart |
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| Is it too much to ask for an Akashi win plz? I mean seriously Kagami and Co have to score 3 times within 40 seconds. |
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ibear said: certeefiedpr said: I wouldn't be so sure of that. The only thing required to shoot like Midorima is strength and technique, a person capable of that strength with the correct body type just hasn't been a thing yet, and players have more than mastered the technique for shooting a basketball. I'm sure there was a time when people thought Bolt's 100m and Phelps' 100m butterfly times were impossible, but the right people with the right bodies came along. Bosh right now is the closest thing I've seen with his half court shots during all-star weekend.In all seriousness though, Midorima is by far the most unrealistic aspect of this show.  This might be true but there will never be any serious professionals practicing this shot simply because it's such a low percentage shot. Maybe if they added a 5 point line in the future or something? Perhaps a future globetrotter will be able to pull this off. But as of this moment, that skill is definitely unrealistic. |
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certeefiedpr said: There was a time when Jimmer was splashing it from a stupid distance away, and not because he needed to rush the shot, he just felt like it. Someone would really need to practice taking shots from inside the half line and eventually muscle memory would give them a dangerous level of consistency. Obviously not Midorima consistency, but respectable enough to where the defense plays well above the 3pt line. The biggest obstacle is that the amount of effort required to shoot from that distance would tire them out so quickly that the accuracy would drop off after only a handful of attempts. Seeing Bosh hit that shot with such a natural looking shooting motion makes me believe that height like his would be a big requirement if someone wanted to make it happen, and that it is possible.ibear said: I wouldn't be so sure of that. The only thing required to shoot like Midorima is strength and technique, a person capable of that strength with the correct body type just hasn't been a thing yet, and players have more than mastered the technique for shooting a basketball. I'm sure there was a time when people thought Bolt's 100m and Phelps' 100m butterfly times were impossible, but the right people with the right bodies came along. Bosh right now is the closest thing I've seen with his half court shots during all-star weekend. This might be true but there will never be any serious professionals practicing this shot simply because it's such a low percentage shot. Maybe if they added a 5 point line in the future or something? Perhaps a future globetrotter will be able to pull this off. But as of this moment, that skill is definitely unrealistic. |
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| That was wacky. Pretty colors tho. |
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| This whole episode was so overpowered!!! :D And Kuroko's and Aomine's crying smiles :') |
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| Its so amazing when the animation is perfect, a very intense episode! SchwingBoner said: [center]  |
ibear said: certeefiedpr said: There was a time when Jimmer was splashing it from a stupid distance away, and not because he needed to rush the shot, he just felt like it. Someone would really need to practice taking shots from inside the half line and eventually muscle memory would give them a dangerous level of consistency. Obviously not Midorima consistency, but respectable enough to where the defense plays well above the 3pt line. The biggest obstacle is that the amount of effort required to shoot from that distance would tire them out so quickly that the accuracy would drop off after only a handful of attempts. Seeing Bosh hit that shot with such a natural looking shooting motion makes me believe that height like his would be a big requirement if someone wanted to make it happen, and that it is possible.This might be true but there will never be any serious professionals practicing this shot simply because it's such a low percentage shot. Maybe if they added a 5 point line in the future or something? Perhaps a future globetrotter will be able to pull this off. But as of this moment, that skill is definitely unrealistic. Nah. Midorima's ability is the only one that is impossible. Not because he can shoot from anywhere. But because he makes it every time, which is impossible. Edit: I really hope they don't make a 5 point line lol |
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| Best of KnB episode by far so far. Superb animation and perfect OSTs to compliment it - especially the one that started playing when the Second Gate opened. Aomine coming across the realization and crying, and Suwabe did such a brilliant job voicing too; too many feels. Also, the background for the Direct Drive Zone was an eccentric twist by Production I.G but it suited the heat of the moment very well.  Have to hand it to I.G this time. In my opinion, the animation in the latter half of this episode sweeped ufotable into the closet. |
sotiredJun 24, 2015 2:41 PM
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| Holy Shit!!! Epic shit has gone down this episode!!!X'D The animations for the true zone is AMAZZZZINNNNNGGG!! DAMN I.G!!! XD You did IT! Most epic shit i've seen this year X'D Glorious animations ;_; It's hard for me to watch older sport anime when i seen this level of play ;_; |
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| I decided to join MAL again after reading this thread. First of all, Rakuzan didn't enter the Zone. They are at 90% = Not the Zone. Riko stated that the average player can only reach 80% of their potential and Akashi pushes that extra 10%, which puts them one step less than the Zone, but still not the Zone. Its just thew wording of the subs I think. Mind you I only read the first page so I don't if this was already clarified by someone else. Second of all, I really hated that Aomine cried. He didn't cry in the manga and it made it seem like that dude went Drake Mode crying over his ex girlfriend. The Iori Yagami laugh really did happen tho, which was well done. |
KaitouJun 24, 2015 8:54 PM
ShonenKaitou said: Second of all, I really hated that Aomine cried. He didn't cry in the manga and it made it seem like that dude went Drake Mode crying over his ex girlfriend. The Iori Yagami laugh really did happen tho, which was well done. But he did cry in the manga. In chapter 270. |
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G_Spark233 said: ShonenKaitou said: Second of all, I really hated that Aomine cried. He didn't cry in the manga and it made it seem like that dude went Drake Mode crying over his ex girlfriend. The Iori Yagami laugh really did happen tho, which was well done. But he did cry in the manga. In chapter 270. You'er right, I just did a quick check. I probably missed that white line when reading it last year. Still, I didn't like that he cried. |
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| the animation HNNNNNGG I loved the manga but those animations, oh god they are making it even better |
| Finale has been delayed to next week. |
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Stark700 said: Finale has been delayed to next week. WHAT NO YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME but I assume Production I.G is busy going tryhard on the animations etc |
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norepinephrine said: Stark700 said: Finale has been delayed to next week. WHAT NO YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME but I assume Production I.G is busy going tryhard on the animations etc Nope, I think it's because of a music event because Kekkai Sensen is also delayed to next week. |
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Stark700 said: Finale has been delayed to next week. thanks for telling us that. |
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Stark700 said: norepinephrine said: WHAT NO YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME but I assume Production I.G is busy going tryhard on the animations etc Nope, I think it's because of a music event because Kekkai Sensen is also delayed to next week. I heard it was because of this: http://www.espnfc.co.uk/womens-world-cup/match/422267/australia-japan/report |
Torrible said: Stark700 said: Nope, I think it's because of a music event because Kekkai Sensen is also delayed to next week. I heard it was because of this: http://www.espnfc.co.uk/womens-world-cup/match/422267/australia-japan/report Screw soccer, I want my b-ball >:^( |
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| Sooo, just how good would Kagami be if he got empowered by Akashi? Or Akashi within true zone? So, Akashi zone empowered by true zone to boost Kagamis' true zone with zone. Sorry, I have too much time waiting last episode. |
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| This episode was too epic. Akashi still showing his true strength. |
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| The animation was so incredible that I was speechless... Like woah. That's got to be some of the best animated scenes in animation history or something. Though I don't know much about it personally, so that could be an exaggeration. Definitely the best animation I've seen in a long time. |
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| THAT scene is the best thing ever. I'm sure I don't have to say which one. |
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| Definitely one of the best episodes in this season. Amazing animation in that "space" scene and great emotional scenes too. Makes up for the lame battle so far. |
| I've never really liked the concept of the Zone in this show, especially the way the characters talk about it and how the narrative treats it. I'm not sure if its use in this episode was really smart or really dumb..though I'm leaning towards the latter. I will admit, though, that I really like the thematic point it brings up, and I like that it subverts what the Zone has been up to this point: a power-up for one character to crush all others. Basically, a thematic contradiction in a show whose main message is the power of teamwork. That the truest and ultimate form of Zone be a team working together in harmony is fantastic and actually serves as a great way to finish off the show in a manner consistent with its core values. Akashi and his teammates may each individually be in the Zone, but that doesn't compare to a team that is truly together in that state, playing as an unbeatable force with one mind. The distinction is subtle but crucial. So...I guess I like it after all. Plus, that animation at the end when the whole team was playing in the Zone was incredible. I really liked Akashi this episode; seeing a different side of him (again, after the shattered one we saw last week, which was great too) was both refreshing and heartwarming. Going to really miss this show, ridiculousness and all. |
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| This episode hit me so hard. Tears came out of my eyes when Ogiwara yelled out Kuroko's name and Kuroko started crying; that was such a beautiful yet touching moment. Even the other Generation of Miracles players cheered for Seirin. Seeing Aomine cry and finally realise that Kuroko was the 'gatekeeper' and that he can't just rely on himself alone anymore was touching too. The animation when Seirin went in the Zone as a team was amazing. Such an exhilarating, intense and entertaining episode; very fitting for a final! 5/5 |
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| Direct drive zone in soccer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-EaTwqNII It looks like coordination at the speed of the zone at just 1.25x speed. #10 is "Kagami". |
TorribleJul 3, 2015 11:14 AM
| The cheering and teamzoning was incredible It was trullly the best so far with one last to go |
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