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| Ouch, right in the grandma, quite literally. Really want to kill Togane and his piece of shit mother(Chief). Not just because they were killing puppies, but also because of grandma's ear. Also, I think Mika is broken.  LOL. |
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| F*ck this episode! This is the worst episode of Psycho-Pass 2. I wonder what am i`m expecting on last 2 episodes? I hope Kamui Kirito dies on last episode. |
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| Fuck this !! What a bloody episode every weeks man !! This getting better and better. Lol at grandma xD. |
| Lol at the ANN reviewer...well, she's my favourite cringe-fetish-feeding writer, better than even moesucks, but anyway...she misses so much, the reason why the people at the dinner get clouded is they realise the food they ate so far was also human flesh holofied to look like human. As for togane not being clear even after designed to be so....well..we know the sybil system seeks brains. Therefore it doesn't have enough brains. Therefore it can't mass produce -and from what we saw doesn't even try, at least currently- to create more toganes. Therefore you can easily assume that the good days didn't last and he eventually deteriorated. The method to build him obviously wasn't perfect. Oh well, some people just don't like that it's different from s1 and decide to exaggerate flaws out of spite. Whatever. Side note.....DELICIOUS MIKA SUFFERING |
| Mika is really smart in her situation really. Imminent death stares down her face but she kept her head to interpret the situation and do what she needs to do to stay alive. Giving Akane's grandma address to Togane is a no brainer either. Do that or die, and Togane/his mom can simply find where she is any way. She's probably trying to stay collected to find her way out of her situation, good luck lol. But so much gore this series, I know this world is fucked up but there's no need for close up shots of mutilated people.... The omnipotent paradox is like the first intelligent topic this series has brought up so far. PS: Akane's boobs. Nice. |
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| JESUS CHRIST! WHY THE PUPPIES? WHY?! Poor things. ;-; First the faking puppies, then the people getting slaughtered by Kamui and then finally Akane's grandmother. Ugh, this episode was really a lot to take it. This was the first time I've seen Akane this pissed. Mika is a piece of shit as usual, I hope they gets a brutal death. With just 2 more episodes left, I really hope the ending will be decent. |
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| Aw man. This episode... I hope that Akane's grandmother is still alive - even though I speculate it to be false. Man Togane... -_- That was a shocker that the Sybil System host is Togane's mother. Those puppies, I know... I hope he's brought to justice, and his mother, but then that would be a paradox if she's judged. Hmm... |
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Alfonse said: His followers are all illegal aliens disguised as holos of higher ups, correct? Why are they helping Kamui? Why did Kamui and his friend burn those illegal immigrants and officials? Because the politicians are sick fucks who a) benefited greatly from the whole Shutting-Panopticon-down thing b) stuffed LIVING illegal immigrants into ANIMAL bodies just for the LULZ (as you can see when the house burns down - they're still alive) Considering the fact that Kamui can strongly relate to those immigrants (after all he's a TON of persons stuffed into one Frankenstein's monster) it's quite simple why he got mad. So Kamui burned the officials because they deserved it and the illegal immigrants because he wanted to end their suffering. What I don't understand is why people are so messed up in this season. Rikako Ooryou is really tame in comparison with these officials and puppy/granny-slayer Tougane. |
| uhm... can i leave my theory here? ============== After watching 3 episodes of PP S2. I decided to re-watch episode 11 from the New-Edit version. And one thing i that im certain is that Sybil wants Akane. She's the perfect overseer of a perfect system. Then I imagined Akane as the next Kasei to watch over Sybil’s good judgement over its citizens. Then i wondered about the previous handler of the Sybil System and when/how will Akane be able to replace her. ————— Kamui is a threat to Sybil System. Akane is a threat to Kasei and her Sybil System. Episode 5 was a sample of Kasei trying to control Akane’s movement. Episode 9 was a sample of Kasei trying to control Kamui’s movement. I think that season 2 is a big Kasei plot in defiling Akane so that the System will deem her unsuited to handle the system. Kamui, the rock created by a god which he cannot lift, getting killed by Akane with her hue getting tainted is like hitting 2 birds with 1 stone. ============== just my two cents... thanks for letting me share.. just had to let it out. >__< |
cklaigheDec 5, 2014 7:15 AM
| What an episode! Poor Akane!!! T_T What a lively party Kamui put up haha Togane is really monstrous... and in the end what he did to Akane's grandmother!!! Mika is obviously shocked about Sybil's true form, but she had to act that way to not be killed... Anyway waiting for next episode!! Kamui is gonna settle things once and for all!!! |
| Damn, hope all these bastards die... Wonder what Akane will do when she finds out her grandmother is dead. |
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Alfonse said: This season..I'm not understanding... I'll try to answer the questions to the best of my ability. Alfonse said: why exactly is sybil trying to make Akane's hue black? Wouldn't that hurt them in the long run? If she's judged and forced to be an enforcer/dead, then they'd lose an inspector who follows everything that sybil lays out. Or are they trying to figure out if she's criminally asymptomatic so they can add her to her brain collection? Partly yeah, trying to figure out if she's criminally asymptomatic, as her hue is insanely hard to cloud. On the other hand, Sybil and Akane are currently at odds - Akane is still obeying Sybil despite knowing the secret because she knows that there's no other alternative at the moment. If Sybil falls without any kind of replacement, society - which is dependant on Sybil to the point of being unable to exist without it - would completely crumble. Alfonse said: I also don't get what the point of telling Shimotski all this information even was. Why tell it to her? She doesn't really seem like someone who would really do much with the information. Kasei should've just said "Whatever, we'll look into it" when Shimotski showed her the report. From what I've figured out, Mika dug a little too much information for her own good. Knowledge is always power, and Kasei cannot risk Mika blurting out that information to someone else - Akane, for example. Also, by telling Mika about the secret, Kasei is testing her as well - we've seen Mika's psycho-pass barely changing after she learns the truth. Alfonse said: I'm also not really understanding Kamui's character, his motives, nor his followers. So we've gathered that Kamui is essentially someone who was made by the organs of 184 different people (which, because of a plane crash, should not be able to function, given how much damage that causes to internal organs, but sci-fi, w/e). How does this allow him to avoid scanners? And it's established that he hates sybil because they caused traffic accidents/airplane crashes. Was it explained why they did this? I think I missed it/forgot. By having organs of 184 different people (let's ignore the ridiculousness of it for a while), system is unable to detect him as a person, as he basically carries 184 different DNA in himself (huge assumption on my part), which leads to him basically becoming ghost in the system. Because system can't detect and acknowledge him as a person, society, which is dependant on that system, is also denying Kamui's existence. Sybil caused traffic accidents and airplane crashes as a self defense mechanism since people has tried to replace it with Panopticon. By causing those accidents in the vehicles under Panopticon's "care", Sybil directly lowered reputation of Panopticon and caused whole development to be stopped, leaving Sybil in the position of power. Alfonse said: His followers are all illegal aliens disguised as holos of higher ups, correct? Why are they helping Kamui? Why did Kamui and his friend burn those illegal immigrants and officials? Now, I lack the info about it, but I think that they are helping Kamui because as they're in the similar situation as he is - society doesn't want to recognize them. As for why Kamui burned those officials, it's because they're directly related to the Season of Hell. They were the ones who were pushing Panopticon to replace Sybil, and it's under their "care" that all those accidents happened. Yet, once they realized they failed in their plans to replace Sybil and their hues got clouded, they ran to Kamui to clean them. Alfonse said: Why exactly does sybil not care for Kamui's motivations right now? He's a much bigger threat to the system than Akane or Shimotski. Why aren't they taking any actions to shut him down? Kasei seems to be completely unfazed by his actions. Probably because Sybil wants to use Kamui to find flaws in the system so that Sybil can improve itself. I'm not sure much about it. Alfonse said: Tougane is said to be a latent criminal who was able to raise inspector's psychopasses, where then all of them died due to their PP's being too high. But then we see Tougane killing puppies and maintaining a clear PP, so how is he a latent criminal? Why was he created artificially? What exactly were they doing? Why are they doing AA when criminally asymptomatic people already exist naturally? What is sybil's goal here? I feel that's the part of information show has yet to reveal. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Aurioch said: By having organs of 184 different people (let's ignore the ridiculousness of it for a while), system is unable to detect him as a person, as he basically carries 184 different DNA in himself (huge assumption on my part), which leads to him basically becoming ghost in the system. Because system can't detect and acknowledge him as a person, society, which is dependant on that system, is also denying Kamui's existence. In that case he also shouldn't be able to use the Dominators... or if the eye is enough he would always be clearly identified by the scanners around town as the Inspector. |
| Damn, that was a sick episode. Blood, blood, blood..... Mika.... that clap was forced as hell. But still you managed to keep your hue clear, eh? So that's why they suddenly introduced Akane's grandmother few episodes back... to be honest, I would like to see how is Akane's hue at the moment. She managed to keep her hue even when her friend was killed right in front of her back then.... And I didn't understand the scene after the ED as well. Kinda suspect now that Kamui and Sybil are working together to some level after all this time. |
| This episode was freaking hilarible! Between Togane killing puppies in order to make him a stock villain, the classic head in a platter trick, the burning building with obnoxiously loud classical music that makes Evangelion tinkle its pants, and the killing of the grandma who's only purpose was to die, PP 2 has earned the official "2edgy4me" stamp. |
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Ringlord said: Aurioch said: By having organs of 184 different people (let's ignore the ridiculousness of it for a while), system is unable to detect him as a person, as he basically carries 184 different DNA in himself (huge assumption on my part), which leads to him basically becoming ghost in the system. Because system can't detect and acknowledge him as a person, society, which is dependant on that system, is also denying Kamui's existence. In that case he also shouldn't be able to use the Dominators... or if the eye is enough he would always be clearly identified by the scanners around town as the Inspector. I think Dominators and standard Psycho-pass scanners have different method of discerning one's identity. When Kamui takes Dominator, it recognizes him as Inspector Shisui (who's still alive, mind you), but if you point Dominator at him it doesn't recognize him as human being. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Ringlord said: Aurioch said: By having organs of 184 different people (let's ignore the ridiculousness of it for a while), system is unable to detect him as a person, as he basically carries 184 different DNA in himself (huge assumption on my part), which leads to him basically becoming ghost in the system. Because system can't detect and acknowledge him as a person, society, which is dependant on that system, is also denying Kamui's existence. In that case he also shouldn't be able to use the Dominators... or if the eye is enough he would always be clearly identified by the scanners around town as the Inspector. He is using some kind of mechanism to make himself be detected as Inspector Shisui.He was wearing it in episode 6.He transplanted the eye mainly to see what color are people's hues. |
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| -NOOOOOOOO00!!!!!!.......NOT THE PUPPIES!!!!!!! -That Burning scene may have been a little bit Dramatic,But Annoying and Loud Choirs made it so stupid -Correct me If I'm wrong.......But is'nt a Paradox a Paradox Because their is no solution,I mean the whole reducing the stone thing was more improvisng than actually solving Szadek23 said: The writer took every villain cliche he could think of and put them in this episode,all that's missing is stealing candy from a baby. But that's why we have the puppy-Killing......Stealing Candy from a Baby,Kicking Dogs,Strangling Kittens..........Done one,you've done 'em all |
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heavylobsterguy said: This episode was freaking hilarible! Between Togane killing puppies in order to make him a stock villain, the classic head in a platter trick, the burning building with obnoxiously loud classical music that makes Evangelion tinkle its pants, and the killing of the grandma who's only purpose was to die, PP 2 has earned the official "2edgy4me" stamp. This. Psycho Pass season 2 is a steaming pile of shit. At least it works as unintentional comedy |
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| Unneccesary animal violence. Nope. This is shit. |
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robis798 said: Unneccesary animal violence. Nope. This is shit. Seriously? In first season we had a student slashed to death by mechanical bloodhounds -among other brutality- and this time we had bound and possible mutilated people being burned alive, but no, the puppies is where the limit is? Mwahahahahah..... ... unless you were sarcastic. My apologies, if that's the case. |
| Oh my goodness. Seriously though, I couldn't stop laughing at the intro scene. What other way to show a person is a monster than having them beat puppies to death as a child. Like seriously??? Really???? I can't even.... |
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| The more I watch this, the more disappointed I am with the season as a whole. It literally has been the most disappointing sequel to an anime I have ever seen. Was going to write up all the things wrong with it and the issues I had with certain scenes but decided it is not worth it anymore. Not even Kogami can save the mess this season has became. Mindless violence, stupid plot twists, characters repeatedly doing stupid things, unexplained things that the audience just has to go along with and of course plot holes everywhere. At this point I am just watching it because I invested so much time into it and I can stomach another two episodes. Let's see how the writing staff fuck up the ending by squeezing tons of episodes worth of development into two episodes. |
| This episode was a perfect mix of philosophical views and horror. Mika definitely broke herself and Togane is obviously the puppetmaster behind the strings. Yayoi is still love for Shitmotsuki, Saiga is still a coffee addict and Sho doesn't even talk anymore. Tsunemori's still smoking, Gino is still at the sidelines and where the hell is Kogami? Although the paradox was a good idea to bring up. I wonder if anything else will be introduced. Massacres tho.... |
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| Okay, I've been pretty defensive about this sequel, but I admit that this episode is the single most "2edgy4me" thing I've seen in a while. Having dominators splatter people about loses its appeal when it is done over and over again just for the sake of it. The stuff with Togane I actually like. Sibyl takes care of Kamui by letting Akane do it since he is beyond their ability to judge. Extremely convenient that someone like Kamui came along to fulfil Togane's wishes though. |
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RedRoseFring said: Okay, I've been pretty defensive about this sequel, but I admit that this episode is the single most "2edgy4me" thing I've seen in a while. Having dominators splatter people about loses its appeal when it is done over and over again just for the sake of it. The stuff with Togane I actually like. Sibyl takes care of Kamui by letting Akane do it since he is beyond their ability to judge. Extremely convenient that someone like Kamui came along to fulfil Togane's wishes though. The stuff with Togane was just bad writing man. I feel they incorporated violent scenes just for the hell of it and so when you see it on screen it is jarring. Like in the previous episode the old man smashing metal bar on the side of the mental patient. How could we raise Togane's crime coefficient in a quick manner....oh I don't know probably in many ways that doesn't include murdering dogs. Completely agree with you on the denominators being used excessively in this show and thus losing its shock factor. In the first season when the denominator was used, you know shit got serious. |
| Mika is broken Akane is lewd and angry Togane is a bastard and crazy |
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Darkdrone said: RedRoseFring said: Okay, I've been pretty defensive about this sequel, but I admit that this episode is the single most "2edgy4me" thing I've seen in a while. Having dominators splatter people about loses its appeal when it is done over and over again just for the sake of it. The stuff with Togane I actually like. Sibyl takes care of Kamui by letting Akane do it since he is beyond their ability to judge. Extremely convenient that someone like Kamui came along to fulfil Togane's wishes though. The stuff with Togane was just bad writing man. I feel they incorporated violent scenes just for the hell of it and so when you see it on screen it is jarring. Like in the previous episode the old man smashing metal bar on the side of the mental patient. How could we raise Togane's crime coefficient in a quick manner....oh I don't know probably in many ways that doesn't include murdering dogs. Completely agree with you on the denominators being used excessively in this show and thus losing its shock factor. In the first season when the denominator was used, you know shit got serious. I have to agree. In S1 the shock factor had at least some value, now it's been so cheapened and overused that the impact is all but lost. But I guess my biggest problem, and I'd guess for a healthy percentage of us, is the sloppy writing. You can use any number of biologically creative explanations for why pigs are flying overhead shitting on everyone, but that doesn't mean its an interesting story or a good idea... |
Gymkata said: Darkdrone said: The stuff with Togane was just bad writing man. I feel they incorporated violent scenes just for the hell of it and so when you see it on screen it is jarring. Like in the previous episode the old man smashing metal bar on the side of the mental patient. How could we raise Togane's crime coefficient in a quick manner....oh I don't know probably in many ways that doesn't include murdering dogs. Completely agree with you on the denominators being used excessively in this show and thus losing its shock factor. In the first season when the denominator was used, you know shit got serious. I have to agree. In S1 the shock factor had at least some value, now it's been so cheapened and overused that the impact is all but lost. But I guess my biggest problem, and I'd guess for a healthy percentage of us, is the sloppy writing. You can use any number of biologically creative explanations for why pigs are flying overhead shitting on everyone, but that doesn't mean its an interesting story or a good idea... Exactly. Too many violent scenes that are meant to shock or startle the audience, come off as just cringe worthy at how predictable they were. I swear to god when I saw Kamui sitting at the table, I already said "they are going to be serving disembodied heads to raise the crime coefficient and then kill them with the denominator". The murder of the doctor was another random out of place scene and the ear of Akane's grandma was totally out of left field. Show Akane her necklace or show her a picture of her in a new location.....why go the cheap "here is a piece of her body to show you we have her." |
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gedata said: Also, horrific imagery with burning immigrants, complimented by pleasant music and this fucking thing  They told me I could become anything. But they made me a duck. Motherfuckers. |
Hyack said: Akane you're so lewd this episode  This episode was worth it for naked Akane. |
| still don't get why now sybil wants to get rid of akane, they could do it anytime they wanted, but have to go the long way changing her hue |
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Aurioch said: Explanations Thank you for these explanations. I still find the show to be a bit questioning at times, but this cleared it up a bit for me. |
Rayzer said: Spoiler tag would be appreciated.rsc-pl said: Mika is not dead :( She can't be dead, don't make your hopes up. As the Psycho-Pass Movie already revealed that she would stay alive. |
| and the series continues to hit new lows. Now we have the bad guy literally killing puppies and kidnapping/mutilating old grandma's. What's next? He's going to blow up a daycare center full of disabled children being visiting by the Red Cross that are handing out donated candy from the local orphanage? At this point I really wouldn't be surprised. Like so many of the other overly graphic things shown this season it's just there for gore porn and SHOCK FACTOR. Not to mention Sibyl is now laughing manically like some cheap Bond villian. Everything Sibyl has said/done this season completely flies in the face of everything it was in S1. Sibyl admitted in S1 that it wasn't perfect and it wanted criminally asymptomatic people to join it in order to improve itself. Now apparently not only does it do things that're completely against it's own self interest for some bullshit reason (not turning off Kamui's dominators because it's perfect) but now it's actively trying to turn Akane's PP dark and has apparently been doing so to people for some years.....fucking why? *evil laugh* Also, let me get this straight. The Dominators and other such devices that check people's PP can't accurately determine Kamui's PP because he has other people's parts in him but for some reason it has no problem reading the 1 eye from an inspector he has in him as being completely legit....that makes no sense. Surely it shouldn't be able to read (and thus authorize use) properly either. Oh, and now they can track dominators locations? Why the fucking didn't they do that earlier? Trash, this season is just straight up trash. |
SimmianPrime said: and the series continues to hit new lows. Now we have the bad guy literally killing puppies and kidnapping/mutilating old grandma's. What's next? He's going to blow up a daycare center full of disabled children being visiting by the Red Cross that are handing out donated candy from the local orphanage? At this point I really wouldn't be surprised. Like so many of the other overly graphic things shown this season it's just there for gore porn and SHOCK FACTOR. Not to mention Sibyl is now laughing manically like some cheap Bond villian. Everything Sibyl has said/done this season completely flies in the face of everything it was in S1. Sibyl admitted in S1 that it wasn't perfect and it wanted criminally asymptomatic people to join it in order to improve itself. Now apparently not only does it do things that're completely against it's own self interest for some bullshit reason (not turning off Kamui's dominators because it's perfect) but now it's actively trying to turn Akane's PP dark and has apparently been doing so to people for some years.....fucking why? *evil laugh* Also, let me get this straight. The Dominators and other such devices that check people's PP can't accurately determine Kamui's PP because he has other people's parts in him but for some reason it has no problem reading the 1 eye from an inspector he has in him as being completely legit....that makes no sense. Surely it shouldn't be able to read (and thus authorize use) properly either. Oh, and now they can track dominators locations? Why the fucking didn't they do that earlier? Trash, this season is just straight up trash. Yeah I'm not getting why they can't just turn off his dominator. And that last paragraph brings up a good point, but I'm hoping they'll explain why in the last two episodes |
Alfonse said: Yeah I'm not getting why they can't just turn off his dominator I've yet to read a logical rebuttal to this (and I've read them all) that's consistent with Sybil's prior judgements and own interests--namely, to protect its identity, quell public insurrection, avoid media exposure, and maintain order. But apparently "Omnipotence Paradox" is sufficient to explain 8? active Dominators employed to skyrocket society's CC, undermine the MWPSB, draw media attention, turn high ranking officials and hostages into bloody water balloons, and threaten Sybil's very existence. And, maybe that's the whole point: to illustrate through contradiction just how flawed the "system" is. It just doesn't necessarily make for an entertaining watch. And was I the only one laughing when the Scoobies optimistically rushed off to the Ministry, knowing that their Dominators are still useless against Kamui and his entire entourage? Hello?!! What are they planning on using, water guns? |
DouluoDec 5, 2014 7:09 PM
| This season makes me feel slightly uncomfortable, although I can't quite put my finger on what it is. I feel as if a massive rush is coming since they still need to deal with both Kamui and Tougane and there are only 2 episodes left. Sybil will still stay intact because of the upcoming movie I'm guessing. And Mika was just about to become useful and then it seemed like she became indoctrinated this episode (maybe got raped by Tougane?) and useless again. |
Alfonse said: Aurioch said: Explanations Thank you for these explanations. I still find the show to be a bit questioning at times, but this cleared it up a bit for me. No problem. All of that is my interpretation based on what I saw, and I'm probably wrong as well on few points, especially as anime didn't yet show us everything, especially regarding stuff with Togane. And I'm starting to doubt show will be able to provide satisfying answers in the next 2 episodes, as they have to deal with both Kamui and Sybil/Togane. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
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