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Apr 9, 2013 7:47 PM

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Raven-san said:
HalibelTheEspada said:

Obviously there's no telling how strong he is after the 2 years, but pre-time skip I think Blackbeard would have been, at most, equal to or weaker than Luffy without his darkness fruit. As to his durability, that's the same reason I said he's really tough, which is probably his only respectable trait imo. But I also think Ace could have beat him if neither of them had fruits at all, OR if Ace were prepared more for his ability.

Thatch is a Commander in the legendary Whitebeard Pirates. He was able to kill him (I'm sure Thatch put up a fight than an undetected assassination), and all the Commander's are stronger than Luffy pre-timeskip.
Well, it seemed to imply that he backstabbed Thatch when he killed him, rather than any kind of confrontation. It's kinda easy to kill someone if they don't suspect any ill will. I mean Teach was shown as a really nice dude (we now know to be a lie) before his betrayal. If it had been a direct confrontation/duel Thatch would have probably given it to him, since he chose not to eat it in the first place. Also any of the other members would have probably stopped the fight, rather than let it come to a death.

If Blackbeard didn't NEED that fruit to accomplish his ambitions, he wouldn't have killed a comrade to get it (let alone a Whitebeard pirate), and that is why I initially said I think he's much weaker than he seems.

Really there's no sense arguing about him in the past, all that matters is him now. I'm sure he's become some badass guy now, though I don't see where he would have grown much stronger than Luffy, otherwise the 2 year training would have been kind of pointless. They definitely didn't need it to survive, since they were stronger than the other 11 supernovas (besides Kid and Killer) and all of them did just fine.

ibrahim2712 said:
Vista and Marco are my favorites, they are soooo badass
Vista is also one of my favorites and Marco is kick-ass, but Haruka is my number 1 favorite (may be kinda random, but still) in their crew. I also like Izo, but really I love 'em all. xD
HalibelTheEspadaApr 10, 2013 7:26 AM
Apr 10, 2013 4:30 AM

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You do realize that prior to getting his fruit, BLakcbeard managed to scratched Shanks?
Shanks even acknowledged his strength.
Apr 10, 2013 7:57 AM

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AnimePoop said:
You do realize that prior to getting his fruit, BLakcbeard managed to scratched Shanks?
Shanks even acknowledged his strength.
This is actually a valid point, and I can accept this. I will definitely say that it's an impressive feat to scratch Shanks and walk away from it (seemingly unscathed). Granted there was probably a lot more to it than that, it was shown that Whitebeard rapes Teach at Marineford, whilst it was also shown that Shanks is (at least nearly) on par with Whitebeard back when it showed them meeting.

But again, I'm not saying he's "weak" persay, just that he's more like Hody in the sense that, by normal standards he's strong, if you ignore the monster people of the world. Mostly I was just saying Blackbeard's biggest strengths are his intelligence and his Devil Fruit. I'm not saying there's lots of people who are able to beat him, possibly only Shanks could easily beat him one-on-one. There's also the fact that Blackbeard agreed that he couldn't have invaded Impel Down without Luffy. Also is the fact that Blackbeard didn't stand a chance against Magellan even with his entire crew, and he's got a huge advantage against Devil Fruit users. But, I'm sure Luffy will ignore this fact anyway, and be like "NO Zoro / Sanji / Usopp / Franky / Nami and co.! Dis is for mah bro!", but that's beside the point.

But still it's pointless to argue something we can never truly prove. Unless he says he's weaker or someone else says he's stronger than them. Blackbeard also has the fact that he's not afraid to do anything at all to get what he wants, so he's definitely going to go places. In my personal opinion I think Blackbeard will/should be the first or only person Luffy kills.
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BHancock said:
I'm back!

So what did Mikasa think on this chapter? I bet he's saying it sucks because we had tons of new characters introduced!

Bellamy? FODDER HURR.
Cavendish? TYPICAL BISHOUNEN, ODA U SUCK MAKING CHARACTORZ
Rebecca? ODA STOP SECKSUALIZING WOMEN YOU CHAUVINIST PIG
Burgess? ODA RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS SO HE BRINGS BACK YONKO FODDER HURR

Oh, I saw him. He just posted under a different name.

I was totally looking for Mikasa too, after what he did with the previous chapter discussion, shame he isn't here yet.. or is he? Which username he's under now? By the way I could totally see him commenting like what you said hahahahaha
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Jun 16, 2013 2:02 PM

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Bellamy is alive!? I love the way Oda brings back characters way down the line.
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It's a pity Luffy can't fight in that armor, it looked cool.
Burgess is here and I don't like it!
Sep 16, 2018 5:14 PM

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Oh wow, Rebecca is a babe
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Sep 25, 2021 6:44 AM

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That beautiful pirate captain was amusing!🤣 I hope to see more of him soon. Has anyone wondered if Robin or Nami would get affected by his charm? I'm sure Robin won't but I'm having doubts about Nami.

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!
Sep 6, 2022 8:11 AM

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Well that's a shitton of new characters lol.

Bellamy is back!

Rebecca is so bad bro.




Oct 26, 2022 12:20 PM

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Wasn't Bellamy that guy who Luffy one-punched for bullying a friend of his? Great that we see him again.

I thought Luffy was going to be the strongest here but maybe that might not be true in the presence of a Blackbeard pirate.




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Cavendish is angry!!! kekeke
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