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| well fern was too good cant believe theres only one left anyway frieren and seirie have a strange reletionship |
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Reply to zamasz
I think that was the whole point of the episode, to show that Frieren, despite appearing all powerful and almost godlike, does in fact have flaws and imperfections. I'm almost certain that this was done exactly for the purpose of showing that despite all the power Frieren has, it is herself that is holding her back and limiting her. And that is exactly what Serie saw in her.
| @zamasz I don't think that's the point at all. Serie and Frieren have very different perspectives on magic, and Serie doesn't want to accept Frieren's view in the same way she didn't want to accept Flamme's view. It's not that Frieren can't be a first class mage, it's that Serie doesn't want Frieren to be a first class mage while holding the view that she has. It's why she asks Frieren what her favorite spell is, to give her a chance to say something other than what she considers a useless spell. If it was truly about showing Frieren's flaws then literally no one could be a first class mage. Afterall, how many of Serie's first class mages could imagine themselves defeating Frieren? Not even her first, first class mage felt capable enough to test Frieren himself. If anything, this scene more depicts Serie's flaws in how she views what mages should be. |
| I am become bunny, fluffing of worlds. |
Reply to chanchan988
if you rewatch episode2, when frieren use flower magic, Himmel face expression show that he not first time saw flower magic. This is the little detail.
| @chanchan988 There are many details like that in frieren that you will only notice when rewatching and paying attention to these small details |
| These two parts of the episode combine nicely because Frieren and Seria are similar, one does not understand why Fern's cane is so important to her and Seria does not understand why the magic of flowers is important to Frieren, but ultimately Frieren tries to understand it and Seria does not, this shows even more so that Seria would be Frieren if she hadn't met Himmel Or rather, Frieren did not try to understand it, but despite the lack of understanding, she saw that it was important for Fern and did not want to force her to prove her point like Seria. |
Ba-Cii10Mar 15, 2024 1:31 PM
| Something else I need to point out. Serie blaming Frieren for having too many passing the second test seems silly. In reality, it's Ubel that allowed more test takers to pass because she took down Sense's copy. Frieren only really took on herself along with Fern. Had Frieren not taken the test, the Frieren copy wouldn't have been there either. So Sense's clone would have been the biggest problem. Even Denken likely wouldn't have past had Ubel not been there. |
| I am become bunny, fluffing of worlds. |
| I expected fern to get the 1st class mage at the start of the exams arc and frieren to not get it, but outside of that I didn't expect the final test. I was very intrigued with how they would end the show as it was only 2 episodes left, and we still had the 3rd test. I like how they took a shift from a very brutal and deadly 2nd test to this very opposite test that almost seem anti climatic. Think something really interesting happens in the last episode, but that's just a pure guess. |
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Reply to IbnAurum
God i love seeing fern stress-eating, she just like me frrrrrrrrr
I noticed that Denken hasn't taken the interview. Is there a chance for GOAT Grandpa?
I noticed that Denken hasn't taken the interview. Is there a chance for GOAT Grandpa?
| @IbnAurum Denken is the goat, Serie has the innate ability to see true goats. It's basically written in the stars at this point. |
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| Its weird that first Serie is complaining about how Frieren made so many undeserving mages pass and then lets Frieren fail.... so what if Frieren decides to do the test again in 3 years, wouldnt that lead to a similar situation? why not let her pass and be done with it, or maybe should have just gave her permission to go to the northern territories in the first place without the whole exam.... |
| I wonder why the next episode preview was so cryptic this time. |
| First class mage qualities obtained; did Frieren pass also? Kinda weird if she didn't. |
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Reply to Piromysl
More pouting Fern is always joy to watch.
Author knows what they are doing.
Author knows what they are doing.
| @Piromysl the feet service in this episode was great well hahaha |
| can't believe the next ep will be the last one I really can't get enough of it the show is such a masterpiece that covers everything from the fighting scenes to the emotional scenes and the animation is one of the best. this work of art made my week for the 27th time straight ahead friday has been a special day to me since the first ep release |
Embient said: 0:13 He actually said "every day", not "every time" Lawine is sad, even though she's the one that passed the exam. I SHIP IT. EDIT: No, it was Kanne who passed, sorry for a brain fart. I still ship it tho. Maybe she should take a bit of her old staff, and make it a part of a new one somehow. When you look at them, you can see that Stark and Fern got much closer, I love it. Ah, the wholesomeness... The flashback with Heiter... My heart >_< 12:50 Falsch is incorrect, wrong, false (wow, poor guy) Poor Lernen, why did Serie have to say it like that T_T Ohhhh damn, so her suppressed mana is equal to Frieren's full mana! Crazy. Ah, so it's just an interview. No wonder we got only 1 episode left then lol 15:52 Frieren: "From a long time ago" Fern: "Just how long ago is that?" FERN LET'S GOOOOO The next episode preview was menacing this time, with no text and only voices of a crowd. I guess the gang will continue their journey next episode. And a season 2 announcement right after that pls 🙏 did you have a lobotomy? falsch is the name of the dude |
| I love this show, but let us not forget just how pointless this whole competition is to become "first grade mage". If anything world should recognize Frieren and her old accreditation. Not to mention the idea "whoever reaches bottom of the dungeon passes" and then complaining that too many passed because they bunched together and cooperated. First test was equally pointless. It was as if they are purposely making up wrong tests so as many mages can pass so that we can see this badass girl with boy's voice talk how awesome she is. Which leads us to the pointlessness of accreditation if within few dozens or hundreds of years one can be thrown away and not recognized anymore. Especially in a world where dwarfs and elves live. But like I said, these plot conveniences don't ruin the rest of if which is great. |
| Another great episode. So close to the end now. Fantastic series. For all of Serie's power and talents, she's really petty and unwise. Unless there's a twist next episode it's absolutely nonsensical to make some a first clase mage and not her master who's proven time and time again her power No matter how unconventional she is and the precise details surrounding the matter. Serie has really dropped several notches in my estimation after this. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Reply to Ba-Cii10
These two parts of the episode combine nicely because Frieren and Seria are similar, one does not understand why Fern's cane is so important to her and Seria does not understand why the magic of flowers is important to Frieren, but ultimately Frieren tries to understand it and Seria does not, this shows even more so that Seria would be Frieren if she hadn't met Himmel
Or rather, Frieren did not try to understand it, but despite the lack of understanding, she saw that it was important for Fern and did not want to force her to prove her point like Seria.
Or rather, Frieren did not try to understand it, but despite the lack of understanding, she saw that it was important for Fern and did not want to force her to prove her point like Seria.
| @Ba-Cii10 that's actually quite nice parallel you drew there which I somehow missed. In essence Seria is a failed mage because she doesn't understand how even smallest of spells can have butterfly effect on the world and cause greatest of achievements. Sure she's powerful, by one metric, but not wise despite her age. In a small way Frieren won this fight but didn't get the medal, because she tried and understood what Seria didn't. |
| Wasn't Fern supposed to be the youngest 3rd class mage ever ? I 'd suppose that this now makes her the youngest first class mage ever as well. Fern casually making History everywhere she goes. I had a feeling from the start of the exam that Frieren would not make it, but that Fern would, but I certainly didn't expect Frieren's failure to be for that reason, interesting. Now we still have several pretty talented mage to see for that last exam part. Interestingly enough, if Denken gets disqualified for any reason, he may try to accompany Fern and Frieren so that he can still go to the North without being a first class mage himself. |
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| I'm a little disappointed in Serie for doing that to Frieren but I'm happy that she took it in stride. Good for you Fern. |
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Reply to BlichoBoy
Just need to explain to Frieren why something matters.
People realizing very, but very late in the game, that Frieren is too strong.
Frieren is just against the system. Fight the system! Even if you need it, to continue the journey.
Of those who still need to be tested, I just care about Denken.
People realizing very, but very late in the game, that Frieren is too strong.
Frieren is just against the system. Fight the system! Even if you need it, to continue the journey.
Of those who still need to be tested, I just care about Denken.
| @BlichoBoy I didn't have good feelings about Denken at first but he sure exceeded my expectations. Wise old man, best of luck to him in the future. |
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| Fern passes but Freiren fails 💀 anyway hope the old man passes the third test kinda disappointed ngl but still happy for Fern |
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| One thing that'll never gets old is Fern's pouting face and this episode easily delivered in that regard! ^_^ Despite his earlier complaints, I'm glad that Richter was able to mend Fern's staff, which she is thankful for Frieren for going out of her way to get it fixed. It did make for a sweet moment with Fern gently adjusting Frieren's duvet as she slept, while smiling at her. The third exam proved to be a tough one and it didn't involve any fighting this time, since it was simply a one-on-one meeting with Serie herself. Poor Kanne got failed right from the get-go, as did some of the others. Frieren failing was something that she knew was going to happen, but she was confident that Fern would. Thankfully, that did indeed happen as Fern could see the fluctuations of Serie's mana flow before rejecting her offer of becoming a student under her tutelage. Only one more episode remains of this truly amazing series. I do hope that Serie passes at least one more person in this test, which Denken comes to my mind as someone I'd like to see pass the exam overall. |
| Serie is a cunt, end of the story, deny the status of First Class Mage to Frieren only out of antipathy it's pure arbitrary whim, she should evaluate power, skill and wisdom not the path a mage chosed or the favourite spell. |
Franz_FurantsuMar 15, 2024 3:46 PM
Reply to Silvy-Reacts
You know after this episode, I really dislike Serie. She fails Frieren just out of absolute pettiness. Basically her excuse amounts to "I fail you because you think I would fail you no matter what." The overall result for the exam was fairly unsatisfying, thanks to Serie.
I don't even feel I can be happy about Fern passing cause Frieren not passing is so frustrating.
I don't even feel I can be happy about Fern passing cause Frieren not passing is so frustrating.
| @MarchinBunny I feel the same, this episode made me hate her. |
Reply to MeanEYE
@Ba-Cii10 that's actually quite nice parallel you drew there which I somehow missed. In essence Seria is a failed mage because she doesn't understand how even smallest of spells can have butterfly effect on the world and cause greatest of achievements. Sure she's powerful, by one metric, but not wise despite her age. In a small way Frieren won this fight but didn't get the medal, because she tried and understood what Seria didn't.
| @MeanEYE yes, and referring to your comment above, it seems to me that this test is deliberately "badly written" because the exam is not about performing the best (as Denken said, literally stronger magicians than him ended up on the street), looking at the nature of the Seria which she founded and shaped this entire association of magicians (or whatever it was called) it seems to me that they are all selfish assholes who want to impose their thinking on others even if it makes no sense "happiness is also a skill" xD they are ego tops who will only allow you to join the elite those they deem "worthy", inventing stupid tests like "I have an indestructible coat and you have to hit me hard enough to make me step backwards". It seems to make sense to me because the education program in my country is at a similar level, the old idiots who run it don't want to change anything and still use these ineffective teaching methods haha. I saw a reasonable explanation of the first test, so I'll paste it: Genau says that "luck is a skill," but what is really clear from this conversation is that Genau wants a test in which those taking the test are forced to fight among themselves and are willing to kill to win. If you're not lucky, you have to learn from those who did, and if you're successful, you have to defend yourself. The arbitrary nature of the test encourages conflict, which is its intention. He wants first-class mages to be powerful and capable of violence. This seems to make sense, after all, I think that giving happiness as one of the most important aspects of the test is unreliable, but it is a belief that Genau imposes on others and fits into what I wrote about earlier. I don't know if my logic makes sense, but the education system in my country really makes me believe it, since such things actually happen xD |
| so you mean to tell me that with that big aura, serie is suppressing it like frieren because is fluctuating?, unless she is not suppressing it that much, wich I doubt. I was wondering how they will do the 3rd exam with 2 chapter left, I guess it fit. I will miss this anime so much, I will jump to the manga asap. |
| I'll keep watching this anime in hope that someone beats the shit out of Serie. That is all. |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
| ahhh fk this was good. even the slower eps are 10/10 beautiful man a little bummed that Frieren aint a first class mage but whatever XD she doesn't gaf |
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Reply to Piromysl
More pouting Fern is always joy to watch.
Author knows what they are doing.
Author knows what they are doing.
Piromysl said: Author knows what they are doing. "Author" didn't drew that. This is 100% the animators doing. |
| Really sweet moment between Frieren and Fern. Frieren barely understands her own sentimentally so trying to understand Ferns is a bit of a mystery. Despite telling her to throw it away. Frieren tries and succeeds to get it fixed. I think this is a moment where Frieren really stands apart from other powerful MC's. If it were a trash isekai or heck even a regular isekai the MC would have just used repair magic they learned like 5 minutes ago. But Frieren can't do it all she has to go to a specialist. And just about every specialist in town tells her they can't repair it just buy a new one. But the repair magic is sticking piece by piece every shattered splinter of the staff. It takes effort to do magic. It takes imagination it takes confidence. The show properly conveys why magic is and how it works in a very plausible way. Also love how Frieren's master's master is still a hoe. And how Frieren humblely pulled a gotcha moment with saying she'll love and want Fern. Good episode as always. Next week will be the last hurts me and yet I feel like my time watching anime has never been more fulfilled. |
| glad we're back to a more laid-back episode, really makes it feel like the season is coming to an end and sad knowing only one episode is left. more fern and stark time is appreciated. |
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