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| One year ago, back when I was fully immersing myself into anime, I read and watched what would become one of my favorite series ever, Tonikaku Kawaii. And now that I've waited a year for this, and've finally watched it, all I can say is that "wow...this sure does exist to kill me in the kokoro". I...I think it's the girl. Yuzu brings something much more than just a kind anime girl....she is a true WAIFU. And as much as I love the series, you know what I'll say it, Yuzu is a better waifu than Tsukasa (from Tonikawa) could ever wish for. I've found the show that will tug me my heart for the rest of the season. Now all our MC needs to do is to cheer the fuck up and pay back the love and the care that he has been given by his waifu. |
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Yuzu is Going Home Only those ones that used to play a certain Atari 2600 game will understand the reference... |
RayReynolds said: And why is so hard for western people to understand that these things are just a bunch of fantasy characters that don't actually exist and are drawn in a piece of paper? what is this weird and annoying obsession going on with age gap of japanese fictional characters drawn in a paper, mostly that aren't even engaging in sexual acts? how about letting authors be free and write whatever they want instead of forcing dumb censorship because people like you are way too sensitive about some cartoon characters age number? And no, the anime isn't weird, you are lol True, such a wholesome first episode and i end up getting annoyed because "hurr durr the age gap of fictional people, animu is weird" -_- This is the typical comment of someone who justifies that the author does not have any control of his bad habits and fetishes. It is serious because many series that could be great like made in abyss or mushoku are ruined for the pedophilia. Pretty rich coming from a dude with an avatar of a dude who groomed and manipulated a 13 year old omegaLUL. Also, Hisoka's a pedophile so who are you to accuse an anime of pedophilia? |
| It's cute, but what else is it? The scenario seems too serious for comedy, and Yuzu seems too much a plot device for proper drama. I'll give it another episode or two to see if she comes across as more of a person for the real emotional hits, but I'm expecting to drop. |
| Just as I wanted to skip this, but first episode making me stay. I love this more than The Duke of Death. 9/10 for now. |
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I know, I know, the following sentence is bloody true, but I should watch this anime. |
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
NTrustAC said: "Why Send A Bride To a Dead Man Walking?" would be a pretty awesome name for a show ngl  Because he is an alternative inheritan for his older brother? |
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp! |
| I think this is not my place to talk since this new trend of wholesome romance anime kinda disgusts me in some way, nothing to do with the anime itself, they're great for the ones who like this type of story (the problem is myself, but whatever), so I'm sorry if I trigger someone by what I'm going to say, my bad, have mercy, please forgive me. I gave to this anime a chance because of a friend who was talking a lot about it, and yeah, sounds cute, yeah, cute waifus can cure depression but... what else? It's kinda weird to see coming from out of nowhere, like an angel falling from the sky, a girl so lovable with the main character, I know that he's actually a nice guy with a broken heart and dead inside (arent we all?), and yes the anime showed that she had a little bit of concern on doing this before getting to know about him, but that was so subtle, at some point I was waiting to the anime show that she knew him from before, like some forgoten childhood friend, secret crush on school or something, the way they made it look like was so random (if this ever happened to me I'd be scared), yeah cute, wholesome, and there's also all the cultural aspects of the setting used to make the story, the early 1920's japan, but that made me feel a little weird about the story concept, I'm not sure if I should keep watching it. |
doomrider7 said: dragynfaerie said: Am I the only one who was wondering why she was humming What a Friend We Have In Jesus until they had her sing the J version? If memory serves right, the song(or at least the tune) was very popular in Japan during this time period. The Manga includes a lot of snippets about life and culture during this time period as well as some tidbits from the scanlator, but the manga was indeed very well researched. Happy to know the writer put in the research time. Thanks. |
| This was surprisingly sweet and cute.More than I first thought. Hope it stays that way. |
liam0207 said: Yeah I doubt that. This is exceedingly tame compared to other pre-modern settings and topics that could have been chosen. The first thing ancient history students are told when studying is to forget about modern morals; it's anachronistic as fuck. This is just how shit was, and depicting it through rose-tinted glass is not only disrespectful to the people who went through this back then because people want to pretend it didn't happen, but also just straight up factually incorrect Never said you should depict it differently, just that there is fuck all wholesome about it. Its not a romance story, just story about how fucked up the world used to be and how it still is in many countries. |
| Oh, another Duke of Death and his Black Maid thingy again. |
| This episode was beautiful! I am a huge fan of the manga and the author (Kirioka Sana) and have read most of her works. I have been hoping for this anime for years, and it looks like it will be everything I hoped for. :D Faster-paced than I anticipated. I am very glad that they cut out that scene from the first chapter of the manga where That scene was cringeworthy and a low point of the manga. They included all the beautiful and important things. :D FMmatron said: Oh, I'm gonna enjoy this adaptation a lot. This is one hell of a sweet series. A better Tonikawa to me, albeit also slightly more melancholic. SideCharacterKal said: Except that this manga actually has progression and an ending, whereas the Tonikaku Kawaii manga seems to meander on forever with no progression. (I could be wrong, though. I dropped the Tonikaku Kawaii manga after like 50 chapters and did not watch the anime. In any case, my points is that the Taishou Otome manga has great progression and a proper ending.)Seems like a pretty interesting and sweet anime. Reminds me of Tonikaku Kawaii. zyke said: That this is wish fulfillment anime made by a misogynistic pedo? RayReynolds said: This is the typical comment of someone who justifies that the author does not have any control of his bad habits and fetishes. It is serious because many series that could be great like made in abyss or mushoku are ruined for the pedophilia. As has been said before, the author (Kirioka Sana) is a woman. I personally think that Kirioka's depiction of gender roles is problematic, but I'm not interested in debating that with fools who spout frothing hate after one episode. Watch and read some more so you can argue from an informed position, or go away and be quiet. Thank you. subahokke said: this was actually so cute. way different from what i was expecting, but either way i really liked it. the main character is pretty relatable and yuzu seems soo sweet. i hope they don't sexualize her..including the fandom. Don't look at Kirioka's Twitter, then. The author sexualizes Yuzuki like no tomorrow. :D PixiePlopz said: Apparently, mal forums are slowly transitioning into a twitter mosh pit where every single detail is condemned to become scandalous. As a thrash metal fan, I would like to complain that this comparison is insulting to mosh pits. :D |
zyke said: liam0207 said: Yeah I doubt that. This is exceedingly tame compared to other pre-modern settings and topics that could have been chosen. The first thing ancient history students are told when studying is to forget about modern morals; it's anachronistic as fuck. This is just how shit was, and depicting it through rose-tinted glass is not only disrespectful to the people who went through this back then because people want to pretend it didn't happen, but also just straight up factually incorrect Never said you should depict it differently, just that there is fuck all wholesome about it. Its not a romance story, just story about how fucked up the world used to be and how it still is in many countries. If that's so, why do you say other people have their fantasies shit on? It's obviously intending to be wholesome, considering it's a rom-com. That's literally the point of rom-com's. The historical setting is true and it allows us to reflect, yes, but then by your logic you simply cannot have a wholesome romance or prioritise any other themes involving characters with a 17-14 age gap because the only thing that matters is that it's fucked up—if that were so, Romeo and Juliet, wherein the female lead is 13, would not be a timeless story, because all we'd be able to focus on is how 'fucked up' the romance is. The bottom line is that back then, it wasn't fucked up. At all. That thought just didn't occur to people. Who are we to judge people for the shit that happened by our own anachronistic morals? If we place it into OUR context then yes, it is exceedingly fucked up. For example, in the modern world slavery is appalling, one of the darkest aspects of humanity. And yet, for the majority of history, without slavery civilization would have fallen apart, considering they were the backbone of almost every workforce, not least the Romans. |
  We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think? ------------------------------------ Itachi Uchiha |
| @SpectrumDT I read the manga myself. I know what to expect and that's why I said it's a better Tonikawa imo. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| music sung by yuzuki. feels very familiar to my ears |
| Sugar sugar~ My day is full of sweets~ I knew this would be my newest stock of sugar after Bocchan and Alice. Yuzu is so cute and sweet! I alreadly in love with her ♡ I liked the ending song. !! Friendly reminder !! Swagernator said: First, this show is a romance anime set in a Taisho era which on it self is a feast for eyes, second the manga is already finished long ago so this will most probably be a full adaptation. And the third thing is what happened during the Taisho era ... Now with all that, it also seems like a really nice healing anime, and by healing i mean healing in its truest form. Also before anyone starts to judge this time period anime by the 21st century standards. Don't. |
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liam0207 said: zyke said: Never said you should depict it differently, just that there is fuck all wholesome about it. Its not a romance story, just story about how fucked up the world used to be and how it still is in many countries. If that's so, why do you say other people have their fantasies shit on? It's obviously intending to be wholesome, considering it's a rom-com. That's literally the point of rom-com's. The historical setting is true and it allows us to reflect, yes, but then by your logic you simply cannot have a wholesome romance or prioritise any other themes involving characters with a 17-14 age gap because the only thing that matters is that it's fucked up—if that were so, Romeo and Juliet, wherein the female lead is 13, would not be a timeless story, because all we'd be able to focus on is how 'fucked up' the romance is. The bottom line is that back then, it wasn't fucked up. At all. That thought just didn't occur to people. Who are we to judge people for the shit that happened by our own anachronistic morals? If we place it into OUR context then yes, it is exceedingly fucked up. For example, in the modern world slavery is appalling, one of the darkest aspects of humanity. And yet, for the majority of history, without slavery civilization would have fallen apart, considering they were the backbone of almost every workforce, not least the Romans. So if someone made hitler x anne frank rom-com with all other historical facts intact I should just take it as entertainment because it was perfectly fine gassing some people back then? If you watch old time war movie you just ignore all the rape during pillaging because it was necessary to maintain the motivation of the troops? You can make any kind of fucked up justification for shit that has happened in the past, doesnt make it any less fucked up. Only reason this show is getting this preferential treatment is because bunch of sad and lonely dudes who like the idea of having completely devoted slave for them. Also there is more slavery now than ever before in history. Child brides are still a thing to this date. World can function just fine without either of those, youre only making shitty justification for both of them. |
SpectrumDT said: This episode was beautiful! I am a huge fan of the manga and the author (Kirioka Sana) and have read most of her works. I have been hoping for this anime for years, and it looks like it will be everything I hoped for. :D Faster-paced than I anticipated. I am very glad that they cut out that scene from the first chapter of the manga where That scene was cringeworthy and a low point of the manga. They included all the beautiful and important things. :D FMmatron said: Oh, I'm gonna enjoy this adaptation a lot. This is one hell of a sweet series. A better Tonikawa to me, albeit also slightly more melancholic. SideCharacterKal said: Except that this manga actually has progression and an ending, whereas the Tonikaku Kawaii manga seems to meander on forever with no progression. (I could be wrong, though. I dropped the Tonikaku Kawaii manga after like 50 chapters and did not watch the anime. In any case, my points is that the Taishou Otome manga has great progression and a proper ending.)Seems like a pretty interesting and sweet anime. Reminds me of Tonikaku Kawaii. zyke said: That this is wish fulfillment anime made by a misogynistic pedo? RayReynolds said: This is the typical comment of someone who justifies that the author does not have any control of his bad habits and fetishes. It is serious because many series that could be great like made in abyss or mushoku are ruined for the pedophilia. As has been said before, the author (Kirioka Sana) is a woman. I personally think that Kirioka's depiction of gender roles is problematic, but I'm not interested in debating that with fools who spout frothing hate after one episode. Watch and read some more so you can argue from an informed position, or go away and be quiet. Thank you. subahokke said: this was actually so cute. way different from what i was expecting, but either way i really liked it. the main character is pretty relatable and yuzu seems soo sweet. i hope they don't sexualize her..including the fandom. Don't look at Kirioka's Twitter, then. The author sexualizes Yuzuki like no tomorrow. :D PixiePlopz said: Apparently, mal forums are slowly transitioning into a twitter mosh pit where every single detail is condemned to become scandalous. As a thrash metal fan, I would like to complain that this comparison is insulting to mosh pits. :D How does the author's gender make any difference to this? |
| Tamahiko's life has gone down the shitter all right until he meets Yuzu. Seems interesting |
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| I hope that guy becomes less annoying now that he slept for a night. Yuzu is cute and somewhat funny. SoL aspects look promising, but I'm afraid some drama might start because of his family. Hopefully I'm wrong and all that hate is just in his head. I won't even comment on BS posts that try to push modern standard to the times over 100 years ago, and on top of that, in Japan. Nvm. couldn't stop myself. But wtf is wrong with 17 yo dating 14 yo? Even in my school times that was perfectly normal age gap. Depending on what months they were born, such couple could still be in same school even. zyke said: So if someone made hitler x anne frank rom-com with all other historical facts intact I should just take it as entertainment because it was perfectly fine gassing some people back then? If you watch old time war movie you just ignore all the rape during pillaging because it was necessary to maintain the motivation of the troops? You can make any kind of fucked up justification for shit that has happened in the past, doesnt make it any less fucked up. Only reason this show is getting this preferential treatment is because bunch of sad and lonely dudes who like the idea of having completely devoted slave for them. Also there is more slavery now than ever before in history. Child brides are still a thing to this date. World can function just fine without either of those, youre only making shitty justification for both of them. Your examples are totally missed, because all those things were considered bad even then. People did them, some even justified, for some goals, but vast majority had no doubt about it being wrong. Things described in discussed anime on the other hand, were absolute norms - not much unlike today's age of consent or voting rights. You picked some extreme cases going for a shock value but eneded up looking as if you lost track of the point you wanted to make. On top of that you go as far as attacking people who have different opinion on the matter by generalising them as "sad and lonely dudes", which is pretty ironic for someone who tries to claim moral high ground. Your Hitler examble would obviously be pretty weird because we know story of them both. If anything that could be a good black comedy. But if you replaced them with SS officer and jude woman in hiding? I'd be surprised if such thing doesn't exist yet. Still, following your logic works such as Beauty and the Beast are glorifying some wrong standards and are low writing made to appeal to ugly weirdos? And Romeo and Juliet is for pedos? It's funny how triggered people get when anything "controversial" (it's not) gets near romance. Where are they all when we see a protagonist killing bad guys (murder, vigilantism)? Teenage protanoginst saving the world (child soldiers)? |
JustAnotherShiroOct 10, 2021 8:48 AM
Panzer92 said: Raping your spouse and beating them was also considered legal at some point. If you think popular vote decides whats morally correct then there is nothing else to discuss in terms of morals since yours are completely fucked. I hope that guy becomes less annoying now that he slept for a night. Yuzu is cute and somewhat funny. SoL aspects look promising, but I'm afraid some drama might start because of his family. Hopefully I'm wrong and all that hate is just in his head. I won't even comment on BS posts that try to push modern standard to the times over 100 years ago, and on top of that, in Japan. Nvm. couldn't stop myself. But wtf is wrong with 17 yo dating 14 yo? Even in my school times that was perfectly normal age gap. Depending on what months they were born, such couple could still be in same school even. zyke said: So if someone made hitler x anne frank rom-com with all other historical facts intact I should just take it as entertainment because it was perfectly fine gassing some people back then? If you watch old time war movie you just ignore all the rape during pillaging because it was necessary to maintain the motivation of the troops? You can make any kind of fucked up justification for shit that has happened in the past, doesnt make it any less fucked up. Only reason this show is getting this preferential treatment is because bunch of sad and lonely dudes who like the idea of having completely devoted slave for them. Also there is more slavery now than ever before in history. Child brides are still a thing to this date. World can function just fine without either of those, youre only making shitty justification for both of them. Your examples are totally missed, because all those things were considered bad even then. People did them, some even justified, for some goals, but vast majority had no doubt about it being wrong. Things described in discussed anime on the other hand, were absolute norms - not much unlike today's age of consent or voting rights. You picked some extreme cases going for a shock value but eneded up looking like a fool who lost track of the point you wanted to make. On top of that you go as far as attacking people who have different opinion on the matter by generalising them as "sad and lonely dudes", which is pretty ironic for someone who tries to claim moral high ground. Your Hitler examble would obviously be pretty weird because we know story of them both. If anything that could be a good black comedy. But if you replaced them with SS officer and jude woman in hiding? I'll be surprised if such thing doesn't exist yet. Still, following your logic works such as Beauty and the Beast are glorifying some wrong standards and are low writing made to appeal to ugly weirdos? And Romeo and Juliet is for pedos? It's funny how triggered people get when anything "controversial" (it's not) gets near romance. Where are they all when we see a protagonist killing bad guys (murder, vigilantism)? Teenage protanoginst saving the world (child soldiers)? Also this whole idea that you have loyal devoted slave for you is still just a fantasy. How many you think would be happy that they are treated like property and given to someone? You'd either need to have some loner who is desperate for any human connection or to manipulate them into believing its their duty. |
zyke said: Raping your spouse and beating them was also considered legal at some point. If you think popular vote decides whats morally correct then there is nothing else to discuss in terms of morals since yours are completely fucked. It's pretty funny when you judge "right" and "wrong" as if those were some objective truths. Yes, I live in same times as you and generally share same ideas of good and evil. But as you noticed some things were considered legal - and not only that, they were considered morally good - in the past. I mean, not that long ago killing a disbeliever was a good deed too lol. But that only shows how quickly our understanding of morals changes... and thus you shouldn't be so sure about their current definitions. But we are getting into philosophy here. What the fuck does it even have to do with this anime? This title is meant to be a kind of relaxing wish fulfillment in specific setting. Saying that it is wrong or that it glorifies something is entirely out of place. Are you going to say comedy anime glorifies stupidity? Or slapstick is bad because of violence? This is my problem here. We can discuss art, story, direction, voice acting etc. But people criticising the setting and trying to talk about morals or judging target audience is just ridiculous. |
Panzer92 said: The whole point im saying is that there is nothing wholesome about having devoted slave. The whole premise of the show is despicable but you have people calling it wholesome. Its the kind of shit that makes me despise the author so I dont even care about the production value. zyke said: Raping your spouse and beating them was also considered legal at some point. If you think popular vote decides whats morally correct then there is nothing else to discuss in terms of morals since yours are completely fucked. It's pretty funny when you judge "right" and "wrong" as if those were some objective truths. Yes, I live in same times as you and generally share same ideas of good and evil. But as you noticed some things were considered legal - and not only that, they were considered morally good - in the past. I mean, not that long ago killing a disbeliever was a good deed too lol. But that only shows how quickly our understanding of morals changes... and thus you shouldn't be so sure about their current definitions. But we are getting into philosophy here. What the fuck does it even have to do with this anime? This title is meant to be a kind of relaxing wish fulfillment in specific setting. Saying that it is wrong or that it glorifies something is entirely out of place. Are you going to say comedy anime glorifies stupidity? Or slapstick is bad because of violence? This is my problem here. We can discuss art, story, direction, voice acting etc. But people criticising the setting and trying to talk about morals or judging target audience is just ridiculous. |
Someone seems incapable of recognizing that a drawing and a real human are in fact different. |
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TsukuyomiREKT said: Totally. That must be why child brides dont exist in real life and people are totally not interested in having them. Someone seems incapable of recognizing that a drawing and a real human are in fact different. |
| not surprised this episode discussion turned into a shit show over morals |
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| @SpectrumDT It's the same mediocre "argument" to defend the shield hero [Facepalm] @LeonhartAugust I must remind you that hisoka is a villain? |
pnijland said: Auliaramadhana12 said: music sung by yuzuki. feels very familiar to my ears if you watched planetarian, I think just like everybody above, you remember it from there...I think I'll watch that series and visual novel again now..so sad.. Oh that's right, even though I've been watching Planetarian 2 months ago. How could I forget about it??😅 |
RayReynolds said: @SpectrumDT It's the same mediocre "argument" to defend the shield hero [Facepalm] @LeonhartAugust I must remind you that hisoka is a villain? Still doesn't change the fact that he wants to diddle gon and killua XDXDXDXD. You're okay with that, yet you draw the line at the age and role of a character who lived at least 100 years ago. |
zyke said: TsukuyomiREKT said: Totally. That must be why child brides dont exist in real life and people are totally not interested in having them. Someone seems incapable of recognizing that a drawing and a real human are in fact different. Yeah, a very minuscule amount of people, and it doesn’t change the fact that these characters aren’t real. Get over it. |
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| Yuzuki is as cute as I remember her. Nice introduction episode. |
| Yuzu already looking like best girl of the season, she is so freaking cute! I love her fluffy hair <3. |
RayReynolds said: This is the typical comment of someone who justifies that the author does not have any control of his bad habits and fetishes. It is serious because many series that could be great like made in abyss or mushoku are ruined for the pedophilia. Pretty rich coming from a dude with an avatar of a dude who groomed and manipulated a 13 year old omegaLUL. Also, Hisoka's a pedophile so who are you to accuse an anime of pedophilia? Seriously, there are exist people who attack the person because of their profile picture or because of their favorite character instead of arguing against the arguments? congratulations you only show your ineptitude. |
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