Don't Toy With Me, Miss Nagatoro
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| This gets better with every episode! Watching Nagatoro outside of her usual self made this so much better, the whole nipple scene shows how she treats him and someone she just knew, and he got to see that. I do wonder how Nao will use that ticket in the future. |
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_Keroneko_ said: Weird to make it all about her when the MC is the one actually being sexually harassed here. lolShowing the panties of a minor, constantly sexualize her, and even make her touch the MC private parts and barely making her embarrased because of that is something really controversial. The author made her really really promiscuous gosh. But is anime and I get it, I can still enjoy it. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: Blue_Maroon said: What exactly is the logic behind this statement? A girl that is 16 years old is for all intents and purposes, nearly as developed (physically) as a 21 year old. The primary issue (age of consent, mental maturity) with sexualizing real teenagers simply doesn't exist when it comes to fictional one's, and if you're worried about things like "objectification" that's already the wrong approach to normalizing sexuality, and creating a more equal society. it does feel a little gross sometimes because the anime is still sexualizing a 1st year high school girl. While Nagatoro being a fictional animated character certainly makes it more acceptable, it doesn’t change the fact that she is supposed to be 15 - 16 years old. We are still supposed to view her as a first year high school student, so showing a panty shot of her still feels unsettling. I would also disagree with your claim that she looks 21 years old. If the anime presented her as a 21 year old I would not have bought that because she clearly looks like a young teenager. Furthermore, I don’t believe that a manga/anime created by an adult male that revolves around a 15 - 16 year old girl sexually teasing a 16 - 17 year old boy is helping create a more equal society. If anything it makes the whole sexualizing Nagatoro more gross because her character’s actions and the sexualized drawings of her was all created by an adult man that is targeting male teenagers and adults. But we may just disagree on a fundamental level if you don’t see anything slightly wrong with sexualizing teenage anime girls. |
Blue_Maroon said: I didn't say she looked 21, I said that by 16 a girl is more or less at the end of her physical development, although breasts can continue to grow up until 18, and sometimes beyond. My point was simply that viewing the mostly adult body of a post-pubescent female, sexually, is not anything special or out of the ordinary as far as biology is concerned. The issue simply comes down to consent, and mental maturity, which is why anyone over 18 should not interact in that type of way towards minors.LostSpectre said: What exactly is the logic behind this statement? A girl that is 16 years old is for all intents and purposes, nearly as developed (physically) as a 21 year old. The primary issue (age of consent, mental maturity) with sexualizing real teenagers simply doesn't exist when it comes to fictional one's, and if you're worried about things like "objectification" that's already the wrong approach to normalizing sexuality, and creating a more equal society. While Nagatoro being a fictional animated character certainly makes it more acceptable, it doesn’t change the fact that she is supposed to be 15 - 16 years old. We are still supposed to view her as a first year high school student, so showing a panty shot of her still feels unsettling. I would also disagree with your claim that she looks 21 years old. If the anime presented her as a 21 year old I would not have bought that because she clearly looks like a young teenager. Furthermore, I don’t believe that a manga/anime created by an adult male that revolves around a 15 - 16 year old girl sexually teasing a 16 - 17 year old boy is helping create a more equal society. If anything it makes the whole sexualizing Nagatoro more gross because her character’s actions and the sexualized drawings of her was all created by an adult man that is targeting male teenagers and adults. But we may just disagree on a fundamental level if you don’t see anything slightly wrong with sexualizing teenage anime girls. Yes, you're supposed to view her as a teenage high school student, but she may or may not be a minor depending on prefecture, and this is the most important one, she doesn't actually exist, and anime people aren't actually human in any meaningful way, so you being uncomfortable that a fictional non-human character is being sexualized, really seems like your problem, and not an actual problem. Now, did you really think I meant the manga was creating a better society? I'm talking about objectification being bullshit, and that only normalizing sexuality can create a better society. Yes, the fact you just tried to demonize the sexuality of the author because he's male shows we disagree at a fundamental level, but I already knew that. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Despite I didn't like the more abstract animation style in the previous episode, in this one it didn't annoy me at all! Episode starts with a mini-segment which gives proper ground for the rest of the episode (yeah bitch nagatoro's panties are essential) so I can expect this solidness for the rest of the series, which is great. The episode also shows that Nagatoro only bullies Naoto, so we know that she's into him and it is presented very nicely! I didn't give much importance when I read the manga but here I'm sure it was greatly presented to the audience. |
lima57Apr 17, 2021 10:19 PM
| lolz at the crazy noodle arms! 5/5! |
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| Of course Nagatoro wouldn't be interested in guys with a minimum of social skills to repel, ignore or respond to her "teasing". Naoto, being the pathetic and passive wimp he is, is the perfect target for someone with such sadistic nature after all. Second episode and wow, the bullying aspect of this show sure got boring real quick. |
Misuta-Kitsune said: tanishq1204 said: Well we came to know Naoto is a man of culture as well, in the manga it was a naked loli manga instead of big boob vampire tho. Huh? Seems like wishful thinking filling in a gap in your memory.... Because if it was, where did the whole vampire scene that followed it come from? Way to spread misinformation. Let me correct this for you....   No loli's there...? Oh sorry, should have double checked. Haven't read the manga myself, maybe my friend was just fucking with me. |
| can't get over her freaking expressions. man she can bite me any day usually I hate it when the mc is a total pussy. But in this case it works as being a stark contrast to our lovely ms. nagatoro. And even though he's timid and shy, nagatoro's teasing is so manipulative that it is bringing out the inner perv in him. While he was moving super slow during the nipple game, it looked like he was going to go all in and commit had he not been interrupted. Also bowman nagatoro analogy was some gold |
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| Pretty great episode, the anime's really getting into its groove now. Is it just me or does it have a more comedic tone than the manga? Maybe it's just because it's been a while since I've read the earlier chapters... either way I like what they're doing. |
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LostSpectre said: BromWalar said: You might be holding on to some unnecessary resentment, the first episode shouldn't be taken seriously, it's notoriously misleading for her character in the manga. In this episode she's not bullying him at all, she teases pretty relentlessly, and doesn't know what personal space is, but she isn't mean-spirited about any of it, that's a huge difference. So far, the best thing I can say about this anime is the opening and ending scenes with their respective songs. The rest f the episode bothered me the same way the previous one did. But what I liked was seeing her interact with other boys, but that is not really something that can justify how awfully she acts towards the guy. in short, still hate her guts. Why would you say it like this? Also, read what I wrote again. I said that this episode is not much different, in some regards it is even worse. Still waiting for her to get some conscience and leave him at least for a few moments. And no I do not think that it changed much from the first episode... come on, she makes him play a game he can not win and harasses him; she is mean and uncompassionate; with the the other boys too how she just casually shits on them (hope there is something interesting behind it at least) So far, I have not been impressed. This episode had 1 maybe 2 moments when I chuckled a bit but that is not enough. Still hoping it will get better as manga readers say. |
| ‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz. |
BromWalar said: She's literally just teasing him, by anime standards, it isn't real, so don't try to look at it realistically, this would be majorly boundary crossing and shit, but it's not, it's just anime, and she's not doing anything mean-spirited, she doesn't want to actually hurt him. If you can't see the difference, that's probably because you're still blinded by the first episode or something, not that I can blame you, that was bad writing. LostSpectre said: You might be holding on to some unnecessary resentment, the first episode shouldn't be taken seriously, it's notoriously misleading for her character in the manga. In this episode she's not bullying him at all, she teases pretty relentlessly, and doesn't know what personal space is, but she isn't mean-spirited about any of it, that's a huge difference. Why would you say it like this? Also, read what I wrote again. I said that this episode is not much different, in some regards it is even worse. Still waiting for her to get some conscience and leave him at least for a few moments. And no I do not think that it changed much from the first episode... come on, she makes him play a game he can not win and harasses him; she is mean and uncompassionate; with the the other boys too how she just casually shits on them (hope there is something interesting behind it at least) So far, I have not been impressed. This episode had 1 maybe 2 moments when I chuckled a bit but that is not enough. Still hoping it will get better as manga readers say. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Marinate1016 said: This is the one you're looking for https://myanimelist.net/anime/45653/Soredemo_Ayumu_wa_YosetekuruDude had Nagatoro on top of him going for his neck and fumbled the bag because of his breath. F tier MC smh. I just want one of these teasing series to have an actual alpha MC who isn’t afraid of women |
LostSpectre said: BromWalar said: She's literally just teasing him, by anime standards, it isn't real, so don't try to look at it realistically, this would be majorly boundary crossing and shit, but it's not, it's just anime, and she's not doing anything mean-spirited, she doesn't want to actually hurt him. If you can't see the difference, that's probably because you're still blinded by the first episode or something, not that I can blame you, that was bad writing. Why would you say it like this? Also, read what I wrote again. I said that this episode is not much different, in some regards it is even worse. Still waiting for her to get some conscience and leave him at least for a few moments. And no I do not think that it changed much from the first episode... come on, she makes him play a game he can not win and harasses him; she is mean and uncompassionate; with the the other boys too how she just casually shits on them (hope there is something interesting behind it at least) So far, I have not been impressed. This episode had 1 maybe 2 moments when I chuckled a bit but that is not enough. Still hoping it will get better as manga readers say. I am not blinded by the first episode, this one was as bad as the first one (just the volume of teasing was reduced because of the restaurant scene). So far I do not know her intentions other than she does not see boundaries and does not take his feeling into consideration. Maybe if she just talk to him just for a few second seriously between the teasing, but so far it just seems she likes to tease the poor guy that can not fight back because it is funny. No, I do not like her, but as I said I will give my final judgement when it is finished. Also, about realism... if you want something that is a good example of realistic tesing watch Takagi-san. |
| ‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz. |
BromWalar said: Well, you would think this episode is just as bad if you were blinded by your impressions of the first episode, that's a logical conclusion. Aside from that, it sounds like the show might just not be for you, if you're so set against the actual premise of it, but I leave all of that up to you. LostSpectre said: She's literally just teasing him, by anime standards, it isn't real, so don't try to look at it realistically, this would be majorly boundary crossing and shit, but it's not, it's just anime, and she's not doing anything mean-spirited, she doesn't want to actually hurt him. If you can't see the difference, that's probably because you're still blinded by the first episode or something, not that I can blame you, that was bad writing. I am not blinded by the first episode, this one was as bad as the first one (just the volume of teasing was reduced because of the restaurant scene). So far I do not know her intentions other than she does not see boundaries and does not take his feeling into consideration. Maybe if she just talk to him just for a few second seriously between the teasing, but so far it just seems she likes to tease the poor guy that can not fight back because it is funny. No, I do not like her, but as I said I will give my final judgement when it is finished. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: BromWalar said: Well, you would think this episode is just as bad if you were blinded by your impressions of the first episode, that's a logical conclusion. Aside from that, it sounds like the show might just not be for you, if you're so set against the actual premise of it, but I leave all of that up to you. I am not blinded by the first episode, this one was as bad as the first one (just the volume of teasing was reduced because of the restaurant scene). So far I do not know her intentions other than she does not see boundaries and does not take his feeling into consideration. Maybe if she just talk to him just for a few second seriously between the teasing, but so far it just seems she likes to tease the poor guy that can not fight back because it is funny. No, I do not like her, but as I said I will give my final judgement when it is finished. Another equally logical conclusion is that Nagatoro is still heartless and exploitational. And honestly this episode might have been even worse because in the first one there was at least that one point when she felt some short-lived remorse about how she overdid but now there was none of that. 1) Whether it is for me or not is or me to decide, I did not need you to enlighten me. 2) Never did I say the show is badly written or something, so yes I am just saying that the girl is a bitch (if you like that sort of stuff, enjoy) 3) And I am not against the premise, I am against the execution and the main character. 4) I am still willing to like to give it a shot and I went into the second episode wanting to like it and with the expectation of it changing because I was told it would, but I had not changed one bit. |
| ‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz. |
| I found this episode genuinely hilarious. That scene at the family restaurant. Seems like Nagatoro has a hidden personality or a personality there all along. Can't wait for next weeks episode. |
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BromWalar said: She was never heartless in the first place, you can't take anything overly seriously from source material where the author had to retcon his own work. LostSpectre said: Well, you would think this episode is just as bad if you were blinded by your impressions of the first episode, that's a logical conclusion. Aside from that, it sounds like the show might just not be for you, if you're so set against the actual premise of it, but I leave all of that up to you. Another equally logical conclusion is that Nagatoro is still heartless and exploitational. And honestly this episode might have been even worse because in the first one there was at least that one point when she felt some short-lived remorse about how she overdid but now there was none of that. 1) Whether it is for me or not is or me to decide, I did not need you to enlighten me. 2) Never did I say the show is badly written or something, so yes I am just saying that the girl is a bitch (if you like that sort of stuff, enjoy) 3) And I am not against the premise, I am against the execution and the main character. 4) I am still willing to like to give it a shot and I went into the second episode wanting to like it and with the expectation of it changing because I was told it would, but I had not changed one bit. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| This is oddly entertaining for some reason, guilty pleasure af. Better than Hajimete no Gal at least. I thought I had seen all kinds of controversy related to this show but today I also done seen "Why is the bully a girl" A guy bully would've been okay bro? Fucking hell lmfao. |
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LostSpectre said: BromWalar said: She was never heartless in the first place, you can't take anything overly seriously from source material where the author had to retcon his own work. Another equally logical conclusion is that Nagatoro is still heartless and exploitational. And honestly this episode might have been even worse because in the first one there was at least that one point when she felt some short-lived remorse about how she overdid but now there was none of that. 1) Whether it is for me or not is or me to decide, I did not need you to enlighten me. 2) Never did I say the show is badly written or something, so yes I am just saying that the girl is a bitch (if you like that sort of stuff, enjoy) 3) And I am not against the premise, I am against the execution and the main character. 4) I am still willing to like to give it a shot and I went into the second episode wanting to like it and with the expectation of it changing because I was told it would, but I had not changed one bit. I take things as they are presented to me and yes she is heartless, like he makes a manga and she just shits all over it, saying he is a self insert but in reality he is weak and cringe, like fair enough, but it is heartless to just spew it into somebody's face. The same in the second episode when he wants to draw she does not care, instead of maybe at least letting him do it, she just goes onto bothering him... she is heartless, inconsiderate, pushy and annoying. Whether the author retconned it I have no idea and secondly, retconning is not a good thing in the first place... and I have yet to see the retcon so until that time my opinion stays the same. |
| ‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz. |
| Great episode! I really enjoyed the first episode so I binged the manga and now I'm caught up, fuck. I really loved it though. Now that I've seen the manga, I can tell that this adaptation is really damn good. "I read it for the story", It's ok senpai, we understand you lmao. Flustered Nagatoro is adorable and Noodletoro has finally appeared! Really can't wait for the next episode based on what I saw on the preview. Also, I'd rather be toyed with by Nagatoro than get whatever those other dudes got from her, those were much more painful lmao. |
sKyBlazer08Apr 18, 2021 4:15 AM
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| Cringiest shit of the year |
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| There's dudes out there that are paying for this kind of treatment and this fucker gets it for free. |
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| If you like some horny girls always like teasing a piece of shit MC then you'll like this anime. But unfortunately I'm not that kind of person and what the f is that game? finding out where's your nipple is? I guess I'll drop this anime, |
| Another excellent episode from an adaptation perspective. The show has brought Nagatoro to life so well, with dynamic character animation and the full range of her facial expressions. And, of course, Uesaka is clearly having so much fun in this role and that adds so much to it all. Curious to hear how the rest of Nagatoro's friends sound next week. |
| I said the second episode was better than the first and I got attacked by an uber fan for not enjoying them both equally lmao. But anyways the whistling part had me dying 🤣 |
| Lmao just imagined this anime Plot but gender swapped... It's gonna be a Hentai. |
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| Fun episode, she really is a the chaotic evil version of Uzaki. |
| Dimmock is a lot like Veal, an acquired taste. |
| What to say.... dame dane dameyo... dame da ne yo... her teasing and all that don’t seem funny and this story from its title only is around “teasing-senpai” so am just waiting to let this train wreck end |
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| @EmpireOfMoon The first few chapters are manipulative, and poorly written, the author later had to add in sketches after the first two chapters showing Nagatoro feeling bad and embarrassed that she overdid it, it's a tonal mess. The show is about what you saw in the 2nd episode, a girl that loves to tease a guy that gets flustered over it, but gets embarrassed, herself, just as easily. The sadistic girl who wears an evil smirk as she savors senpai's tears, is just an embellishment, she's an exaggerated caricature that doesn't have any relevance to the story at large. It would be fine if the comedy was properly translated, and the viewer knew not to take it seriously, but it just comes off looking mean-spirited, and it's only easy to laugh at it in retrospect, when you realize how absurd that portrayal of her really was. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| I also watch hentai for the plot! Naoto being a true chad there |
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| She should use that canine tooth on Senpai's dick. You know, as a prank. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| Parallels between Nagatoro and the Vampire. Tried to do the neck bite but the MC's garlic breath backfired. |
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| Somehow, i cant hold my smile when watching this... Cant wait for the next episode... ChickenDan said: Compared to 774's other works, Nagatoro is very tame and 774 even tones it down later after 7 chapters in the manga Now i know that this is 774's work.. No wonder Nagatoro's expressions kinda familiar... |
| The 1st episode teasing was a bit too harsh for my taste, but THIS I can get behind. That's what u get for reading an ecchi manga in school like a horny moron xD |
| The teasing continues in the usual nagatoro fashion and I can't say I'm surprised. The new opening and ending were actually bangers ngl |
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| Senpai was reading Rosario To Vampire |
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