BlakexEkalb said: Salvatia said: MAL scores have never been useful or reliable see low scores on: https://myanimelist.net/anime/11763/Sekai_de_Ichiban_Tsuyoku_Naritai https://myanimelist.net/anime/24705/Ore_Twintail_ni_Narimasu https://myanimelist.net/anime/38619/Joshikousei_no_Mudazukai https://myanimelist.net/anime/37979/Mahou_Shoujo_Tokushusen_Asuka >”These scores are not to my taste so the scores on the entire site are invalid”. Isn't that EXACTLY what you're saying about the scores people are giving this anime? Hmm. Hmm. |
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BlakexEkalb said: And since you don't get it, I'll tell you once again. There's nothing wrong with being told to check out an anime, checking it out, liking it, even LOVING it, and rating it a 10.Sarteck said: Isn't that EXACTLY what you're saying about the scores people are giving this anime? Hmm. Hmm. Once again, since you are an extremely dense person after I’ve explained it multiple times: being directly told to go and manipulate a score because an influential person said so is not right. That someone asked you to is irrelevant. Your like or dislike for the anime is what matters when you are rating it. This is such a simple concept, but you can't grasp it. |
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Sarteck said: Nux Taku didn't tell his viewers to watch the anime and enjoy it, he specifically linked the mal page and asked his viewers to rate this anime a 10. Not because they enjoy the anime, but to start a movement. 60% of all these 10/10s come from people who never watched the anime or created an alt account just to give this anime an extra 10.BlakexEkalb said: And since you don't get it, I'll tell you once again. There's nothing wrong with being told to check out an anime, checking it out, liking it, even LOVING it, and rating it a 10.Once again, since you are an extremely dense person after I’ve explained it multiple times: being directly told to go and manipulate a score because an influential person said so is not right. That someone asked you to is irrelevant. Your like or dislike for the anime is what matters when you are rating it. This is such a simple concept, but you can't grasp it. Enjoying an anime and giving it a 10 is one thing, giving an anime a 10 while not having watched the anime/make an alt account to give the anime an extra 10 just because someone told you to do so, that is another thing. |
Bunka_no_Otoko said: Nah, people are mad cause Interspecies Reviewers is becoming the number one anime of all time not because of how much people enjoy, but because of people raiding the anime list because of a joke. This joke defeats the entire purpose of the site and brings some unwanted toxicity with it.Nope. This is a timeless classic that deserves to be the #1 anime of all time. You mad that it isn't your favorite series, or just because it's ecchi. 2020 is the year ecchi officially takes it's rightful place at the top. |
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| I gave it a 10 the second I finished the first episode the day it aired, please do not devaluate this precious, honest, sincere, genuine ten. |
| "If the cuckoo doesn't sing, I guess I'm fine with that." - Natsuki Andou, Kitaku-bu Katsudou Kiroku |
| Well, I'll give it a 10/10, and I'm not a bot account |
| I don't know what the big deal is. These Nux people are clearly immigrants to our great site. It is completely silly to think flooding this site with Nux immigrants would change the voting demographics. |
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| This is just one big meme/joke, just let it happen it will die down and this site will return to its 'normal' trashy self. (Its not because of so called influencers that people are joining this, its because it is a JOKE) I guess the only issue a lot of people are having is that this is akin to a hentai and its getting so much publicity so that must be bad. But if it was like the pingu meme it wouldn't be such an issue. I personally really like the anime and yeah I gave it a 10 and am prob gonna leave it at that when the show finishes just because the people on this site and the mods are annoyed by it. Stop baiting the 10s and it will end soon. |
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Bunka_no_Otoko said: deg said: ye i can only think of an AI machine learning solution to this and even that is not fool proof solution Let us know when you've got that source code hammered out. ;) Machine learning is not at all necessary, just some common sense and better mechanisms. Someone mentioned VNDB's algorithms for example. The current MAL system is retard simple, therefore retard easy to break. This doesn't even address social aspects like how some users spin their own rating system, and the vast majority that spam 10s on anything they remotely like, 7-9 on everything else, and 1s on things that tickle their personal sensibilities the wrong way. Without a cohesive rating system, the score is meaningless. You can't expect me to believe we have six million experienced and totally fair reviewers that know what they're doing. Hell, I fully admit I'm lazy and biased af. Ratings and scores make sense on the personal lists, but using those scores for aggregate assumed-almost-gospel MAL scores is absolutely stupid. MAL scores should be axed but that ain't happening since corpo makes money off the scores, and likely anything changed won't actually fix the longest term boosting/negging simply because easy to market shows litter the top 50 like straws in the ocean and that is good for business. Let's be honest here. |
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| This is a problem. If you don't see it as a problem then there's something wrong with you. The rating system exists in the first place so that people can have a candid view of what shows are popular, or highly regarded, or not. It's a resource for people who enjoy anime. Anyone who intentionally skews that resource as a joke is fundamentally destroying the functioning purpose of the rating system and rendering it's existence useless and pointless. Imagine buying a Chinese manufactured children's car seat because it had high consumer ratings, but those ratings were actually faked by the company who made the seat, and in fact the seat was made out of hazardous amounts of lead and the seat belt was prone to snapping off. Well those consumer reports are rubbish and need to be removed. Likewise, I agree that the scores for Ishuzoku reviewers needs to be reset. I'd even go as far as deleting all of the fake accounts and banning their IP's. |
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Salvatia said: MAL scores have never been useful or reliable see low scores on: https://myanimelist.net/anime/11763/Sekai_de_Ichiban_Tsuyoku_Naritai https://myanimelist.net/anime/24705/Ore_Twintail_ni_Narimasu https://myanimelist.net/anime/38619/Joshikousei_no_Mudazukai https://myanimelist.net/anime/37979/Mahou_Shoujo_Tokushusen_Asuka You need to look at the Stats section. None of those have been trolled. Only when you look at Chihayafuru 3 and Ishuzoku reviewers can you see the overwhelmingly disproportionate amount of either 10's or 1's. For Chihafuru 3: 5 0.9% (80 votes) 4 0.3% (29 votes) 3 0.5% (48 votes) 2 0.1% (10 votes) 1 16.9% (1560 votes) |
| With all the name calling and abusive/harassing language being used by both sides in this thread, I'm amazed this tread is still open. |
| This issue has been depressing for a long while now, and with this, it's hard to separate the legitimate users from all the immigrants this place had since for time millenia. I'd agree that to imitate other listing websites rating systems would be asinine to this issue, because it would mean that MAL would be down for quite a substantial amount of time (once again), but then again the issue of bots would not be 100% guaranteed gone. Having the power to control these illegitmate accounts would prove useful for us while the mods iron out the database issue, because for more often than not, we can skunk out these trollers (as is with the main thread), but going one step further to deleting them and IPs as @Strayfe mentioned would be a good collaboration effort to keep this site alive and away from immigrants who'd have every right to bot vote and/or commit felony here. At the end of the day, legitimate users wants in on this issue that we as daily users on MAL can also contribute to making this place great once again. |
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| What happened for Interspeciews Reviewers isn't vote brigading, just as much as any user voting for their favorite show isn't brigading. None of you have any basis in reality if you say otherwise. Unless we start to scrutinize the scores of everyone in an objective manner (good luck, can't wait for someone to explain their method, KEK), you're just discriminating here based on elitism. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Thread Locked. Thread started off as a complaint, which is why it was moved here, but right now it's just the same as all the other threads about the rating, so therefore it's now locked. See below for the reasoning: Due to the massive thread creation unrelated to the anime itself (story, staff, etc.) and the massive amounts of baiting, trolling, abuse, etc. all threads relating to this issue are now locked. Use the following thread if you must discuss this topic: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1823998 What happened to the score? On Wednesday, one YouTuber told his 1 million followers to go to MAL, register an account if necessary, and vote Ishukozu Reviewers a 10. Another YouTuber with 1.4 million followers has now jumped on the bandwagon and told his followers to do the same. Will this be fixed? Yes. MyAnimeList will not tolerate vote brigading. When will it be fixed? Before this incident, the new scoring algorithm created to combat vote manipulation by duplicate accounts was already slated for mid-February. A method to combat vote brigading will now be included as well. Please see Kineta's post for more information. How will you fix it? Please wait for Kineta's announcement. |
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