DiscoDespot said: PokestarFan said: Yes but my true problem with rape porn is that there are ugly bastards. #DeleteUglyBastards Also the girls seem to be in real pain sometimes, like for me it’s surreal how you can watch human suffering and not be effected. Although finding Euphoria early on really didn’t help. I never really understood ugly bastards either, we need more slick Dr. Hirasaka types... There are plenty of people who don't like horror shows, but its wrong to point fingers and declare people who enjoy things to be depraved simply because the characters in the show are in pain and its not your taste. There is nothing surreal about somebody enjoying a work of fiction (sexually or otherwise). I enjoyed Euphoria alot, so while that does put my sexual taste on the sadistic spectrum it's hardly morally wrong to enjoy it. I think its pretty damn depraved to be getting turned on by someone in pain. The "fiction" excuse doesn't really work because its clearly what that person wants to do and there's a decent chance they would do it if they believed there wouldn't be any consequences to doing so. I maintain that there's a powerful difference between watching something for the plot and watching something because you're getting aroused watching someone in pain. |
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PokestarFan said: I mean he’s also saying I should ask my guidance counselor for help with my “ecchi addiction” Again, like I already said to you about this, in this case with the light you've shed on your situation, ignore your friend. Your friend is in the wrong, your friend is being a piece of shit. This is his problem, and you're doing nothing wrong in this instance. Don't let him give you shit for it, he's just being a prudish, fearmongering asshole. He's not worth taking with anything more than a grain of salt here. The problem that led to this thread being made is not with you, nor is it with liking ecchi. You're innocent, fam. |
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PokestarFan said: Manaban said: I mean he’s also saying I should ask my guidance counselor for help with my “ecchi addiction” Meh, he opened up to us and I got permission to make it public - his friend was making it an issue of "Ecchi is for incels" and that was the crux of the issue between the two. Basically, that same accusation/conflation that gets hurled around this community all of the time. Im Westen nichts Neues. Depressing that people are fucking pricks, but what can be done when people want to cripple themselves with these kinds of fears, I guess. Your friend is sounding more and more stupid the more I hear about this conversation. |
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Ryuk9428 said: That’s my point as well, and as I have been trying to say repeatedly, watching something for sexual pleasure is different from every other reason. Sexual desires are a very primal part of us, so we do not apply higher thinking to it sometimes, so if rape/pain gets you aroused and one day you find yourself very horny and out in the street and there just happens to be an innocent, maybe cute, woman nearby you might act out of your primal urges. DiscoDespot said: I never really understood ugly bastards either, we need more slick Dr. Hirasaka types... There are plenty of people who don't like horror shows, but its wrong to point fingers and declare people who enjoy things to be depraved simply because the characters in the show are in pain and its not your taste. There is nothing surreal about somebody enjoying a work of fiction (sexually or otherwise). I enjoyed Euphoria alot, so while that does put my sexual taste on the sadistic spectrum it's hardly morally wrong to enjoy it. I think its pretty damn depraved to be getting turned on by someone in pain. The "fiction" excuse doesn't really work because its clearly what that person wants to do and there's a decent chance they would do it if they believed there wouldn't be any consequences to doing so. I maintain that there's a powerful difference between watching something for the plot and watching something because you're getting aroused watching someone in pain. |
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Manaban said: PokestarFan said: I mean he’s also saying I should ask my guidance counselor for help with my “ecchi addiction” Again, like I already said, in this case with the light you've shed on your situation, ignore your friend. Your friend is in the wrong, your friend is being a piece of shit. This is his problem, and you're doing nothing wrong in this instance. Don't let him give you shit for it, he's just being a prudish, fearmongering asshole. He's not worth taking with anything more than a grain of salt here. The problem that led to this thread being made is not with you, nor is it with liking ecchi. Ryuk9428 said: PokestarFan said: I mean he’s also saying I should ask my guidance counselor for help with my “ecchi addiction” Your friend is sounding more and more stupid the more I hear about this conversation. I think the real reasoning is that he wants me to be like a “Chad” type that also watches anime |
My biggest regret: Reading all 200+ chapters of Kanojo, Okarishimasu |
| i mean if youre watch that much ecchi up to the point where u cant go a single day without watching an episode than yeah id say u have an addiction problem however if its just for ur own entertainment lmao i think ur good |
mainbitchnaruto said: Well my problem is that once I start an anime I have to finish it, but when I’m done, I can go up to several weeks without i mean if youre watch that much ecchi up to the point where u cant go a single day without watching an episode than yeah id say u have an addiction problem however if its just for ur own entertainment lmao i think ur good |
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PokestarFan said: mainbitchnaruto said: Well my problem is that once I start an anime I have to finish it, but when I’m done, I can go up to several weeks without i mean if youre watch that much ecchi up to the point where u cant go a single day without watching an episode than yeah id say u have an addiction problem however if its just for ur own entertainment lmao i think ur good thats just called binging everyone does that ur good ! |
| If you like something as long as it's not illegal it is fair game. Just for me and ecchi anime sometimes you take a step back and not lose your self. |
ShiroBekuMay 30, 2019 2:24 PM
PokestarFan said: Ryuk9428 said: That’s my point as well, and as I have been trying to say repeatedly, watching something for sexual pleasure is different from every other reason. Sexual desires are a very primal part of us, so we do not apply higher thinking to it sometimes, so if rape/pain gets you aroused and one day you find yourself very horny and out in the street and there just happens to be an innocent, maybe cute, woman nearby you might act out of your primal urges. I think its pretty damn depraved to be getting turned on by someone in pain. The "fiction" excuse doesn't really work because its clearly what that person wants to do and there's a decent chance they would do it if they believed there wouldn't be any consequences to doing so. I maintain that there's a powerful difference between watching something for the plot and watching something because you're getting aroused watching someone in pain. Yeah I agree, once you cross the line into sexual desires, we're talking about a very blurry line between fiction and reality. Whereas watching for other reasons maintains more of a distinction between the two. PokestarFan said: Manaban said: Again, like I already said, in this case with the light you've shed on your situation, ignore your friend. Your friend is in the wrong, your friend is being a piece of shit. This is his problem, and you're doing nothing wrong in this instance. Don't let him give you shit for it, he's just being a prudish, fearmongering asshole. He's not worth taking with anything more than a grain of salt here. The problem that led to this thread being made is not with you, nor is it with liking ecchi. Ryuk9428 said: Your friend is sounding more and more stupid the more I hear about this conversation. I think the real reasoning is that he wants me to be like a “Chad” type that also watches anime Chad type guys hardly ever watch anime, ecchi or otherwise, and if they do its not very often. From what I've seen, they don't even watch much TV in general. Their lives are usually too busy for that. I watch TV more than pretty much anybody I know among my friends and I think there's a major correlation between having just watched a lot of TV in general and watching anime. |
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| YOU PIECE OF SHIT GARBAGE ASS HUMAN BEING... GOD WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? |
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| It's not wrong for being a man of culture lol. |
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| Man, just watch whatever rocks your boat is fine. It's no one's business what you enjoy or not. And if someone is thinking it is, just fuck them off. If it doesn't hurt anyone who's not willing to be hurt, who cares? |
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| Nope it ain't. But you could watch other genres of anime as a change of pace. Ecchi is fine and good, but doesn't it get a little repetitive after the 50th series. In any case to each his own and I hope that you will continue to watch predominantly ecchi series. |
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EcchiGodMamster said: YOU PIECE OF SHIT GARBAGE ASS HUMAN BEING... GOD WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? ShadowBladeX said: It's not wrong for being a man of culture lol. I assume I'll be a man of culture than |
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Ryuk9428 said: When I say Chad i more specifically mean like looks respectable in public life but I do whatever I want in my private life. And I guess his idea of respectable is not every showing to others you watch things with visible tits or like titsPokestarFan said: That’s my point as well, and as I have been trying to say repeatedly, watching something for sexual pleasure is different from every other reason. Sexual desires are a very primal part of us, so we do not apply higher thinking to it sometimes, so if rape/pain gets you aroused and one day you find yourself very horny and out in the street and there just happens to be an innocent, maybe cute, woman nearby you might act out of your primal urges. Yeah I agree, once you cross the line into sexual desires, we're talking about a very blurry line between fiction and reality. Whereas watching for other reasons maintains more of a distinction between the two. PokestarFan said: I think the real reasoning is that he wants me to be like a “Chad” type that also watches anime Chad type guys hardly ever watch anime, ecchi or otherwise, and if they do its not very often. From what I've seen, they don't even watch much TV in general. Their lives are usually too busy for that. I watch TV more than pretty much anybody I know among my friends and I think there's a major correlation between having just watched a lot of TV in general and watching anime. |
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zieek said: Nope it ain't. But you could watch other genres of anime as a change of pace. Ecchi is fine and good, but doesn't it get a little repetitive after the 50th series. In any case to each his own and I hope that you will continue to watch predominantly ecchi series. For some reason jerking off never gets repetitive. |
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PokestarFan said: Manaban said: I mean he’s also saying I should ask my guidance counselor for help with my “ecchi addiction” Meh, he opened up to us and I got permission to make it public - his friend was making it an issue of "Ecchi is for incels" and that was the crux of the issue between the two. Basically, that same accusation/conflation that gets hurled around this community all of the time. Im Westen nichts Neues. Depressing that people are fucking pricks, but what can be done when people want to cripple themselves with these kinds of fears, I guess. so he says watching ecchi=incel..........huh?  did I skip a few steps or something? liking 2D tits≠ disrespecting 3D woman |
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zieek said: but doesn't it get a little repetitive after the 50th series. there is NO GENRE you can't say this about lets be honest here... and that goes far beyond anime lol it really just comes down to whether or not that matters to you |
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SeidouTZ said: I was always taught that consuming a lot of the same stuff is bad for you, so ofc is wrong :) meh been hearing this talk about "a friend say this to me about my anime hobbie, is he/she right?" sort of self-victimization a lot to the point that i wonder if most anime fans fabricate this type of stories or are really that insecure. That aside is it wrong to watch too much of the same genre? no, is quite narrow-minded to just appreciate a type of genre in a vast medium, but is not wrong. There is nothing inherently bad about it either so get emersed in a sea of self-indulgence to your heart's content. As for "I don't watch hentai because I feel there is no real plot/character development" you would be suprise to see that some hentais actually have decent plots even if the production value is considerably low, look into it. Why does hentai need to have a good plot? I mean nobody who watches 3D porn seems to care about the fact that porn has non-existent to extremely unimaginative/cliche storylines. I mean I think there needs to be more of a differentiation from "pure hentai" porn and animes that happen to have explicit sex scenes. Shoujo Sect for example, I'd say falls into the latter category. |
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SeidouTZ said: Ryuk9428 said: Why does hentai need to have a good plot? I mean nobody who watches 3D porn seems to care about the fact that porn has non-existent to extremely unimaginative/cliche storylines. I mean I think there needs to be more of a differentiation from "pure hentai" porn and animes that happen to have explicit sex scenes. Shoujo Sect for example, I'd say falls into the latter category. I was merely telling OP that hentai with a good plot exist, not so much questioning whatever or not their existence is needed. But if you want me to answer your question, yes i believe that hentai needs a good plot so sustain itself. You need something that drives things to the sex scene and you need to understand what drove the characters to that situation, hell in certain genre like NTR have a good plot is a requirement. Sure you could wank simply to a hentai scene but after awhile i doubt you get anything out of those, tho this is just my own opinion on the subject so ofc is subjective. 3D is different, you get from the start that the people are acting and in most cases are under the influence of steroids yet you watch it because you migh find what either the persons or what is been shown "hot" for the lack of a better term. Also 3D porn is more general and not so much of a niche like hentai that a lot of people dont appreciate. Not sure what you mean by "there is a need to have differentiation", maybe you are asking for there be more transparency when selling series by clarifying when the hentai is more soft and when it is more focus solely on the sex part and not sp much on the fluff, or put some sort of tag on them? I guess creating a different tag. I mean, there's softcore hentai but there's also hentai that almost seems more story based than just being for fapping. |
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PokestarFan said: NthDegree said: Yes but I highly doubt I’m going to get arrested.Well, pirating is illegal, so it is wrong from the legal perspective. But obviously my main point was that I have to bend over backwards to find a scenario where it's wrong. Hey, the question was whether it was wrong, not whether you're going to get arrested. |
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NthDegree said: PokestarFan said: Yes but I highly doubt I’m going to get arrested. Hey, the question was whether it was wrong, not whether you're going to get arrested. The pervert police are calling a SWAT team and are going to be kicking in @PokesterFan's door and rappelling through his windows at any moment now lol. |
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| How dare you! How dare you find enjoyment in a specific genre of anime!? Don't you realize that you're LITERALLY destroying the anime industry!?!?!?!? |
Ryuk9428 said: NthDegree said: Hey, the question was whether it was wrong, not whether you're going to get arrested. The pervert police are calling a SWAT team and are going to be kicking in @PokesterFan's door and rappelling through his windows at any moment now lol. It's been 17 minutes and so far there has been no FBI open up |
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HopefulNihilist said: There's nothing wrong with watching ecchi anime, but unless they're really good ecchi anime, then I think it's a waste. Ecchi is, in my opinion, the worst genre when it comes to pumping out quality anime. Instead of watching a bunch of those, I think you should watch better anime, which don't happen to be ecchi. Could you recommend some "better anime"? |
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PokestarFan said: Ryuk9428 said: The pervert police are calling a SWAT team and are going to be kicking in @PokesterFan's door and rappelling through his windows at any moment now lol. It's been 17 minutes and so far there has been no FBI open up They're probably just waiting for their battering ram to show up... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8GkeVKOPs |
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Ryuk9428 said: They're probably just waiting for their battering ram to show up... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8GkeVKOPs Google how to defend against swat battering ram |
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PokestarFan said: Ryuk9428 said: They're probably just waiting for their battering ram to show up... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8GkeVKOPs Google how to defend against swat battering ram Google work.... Oh wait this isn't google oops |
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HopefulNihilist said: Monster Jojo Natsume's Book of Friends Kaiji Durarara Kill la Kill Baccano! In This Corner of the World Welcome to the NHK Afro Samurai Aoi Bungaku The Monogatari series Berserk (the 90s one, not the shitty 2016 one) Black Lagoon My Hero Academia (even if it's not exactly my kind of anime) Chaos; Child Clannad Da Yu Hai Tang Drifters The Fate series Ghost Stories (the English dub. Legendary comedy) Gokudo Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash Haibane Renmei Higurashi Inuyashiki Humanity Has Declined Garden of Sinners Kino's Journey (the original, fuck the new one) Love Live Made in Abyss Maoyuu Maou Yuusha Mob Psycho 100 Mushishi Neon Genesis Evangelion One Punch Man Spice and Wolf Panty And Stocking With Garterbelt Planetarian Shiki Rage of Bahamut Steamboy Angel's Egg The Girl Who Lept Through Time Space Patrol Luluco Oregairu Zombieland Saga I've already seen Kill la Kill. And isn't KlK also ecchi anyways? |
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PokestarFan said: ^ OP just finished watching Kill la Kill, which is nearly as close to hentai as you can get. I don't watch hentai because I feel there is no real plot/character development, so I stick to ecchi.  |
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PokestarFan said: HopefulNihilist said: Monster Jojo Natsume's Book of Friends Kaiji Durarara Kill la Kill Baccano! In This Corner of the World Welcome to the NHK Afro Samurai Aoi Bungaku The Monogatari series Berserk (the 90s one, not the shitty 2016 one) Black Lagoon My Hero Academia (even if it's not exactly my kind of anime) Chaos; Child Clannad Da Yu Hai Tang Drifters The Fate series Ghost Stories (the English dub. Legendary comedy) Gokudo Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash Haibane Renmei Higurashi Inuyashiki Humanity Has Declined Garden of Sinners Kino's Journey (the original, fuck the new one) Love Live Made in Abyss Maoyuu Maou Yuusha Mob Psycho 100 Mushishi Neon Genesis Evangelion One Punch Man Spice and Wolf Panty And Stocking With Garterbelt Planetarian Shiki Rage of Bahamut Steamboy Angel's Egg The Girl Who Lept Through Time Space Patrol Luluco Oregairu Zombieland Saga I've already seen Kill la Kill. And isn't KlK also ecchi anyways? You've seen Kill la Kill? Huh. That's strange. I went through your completed list to figure out which anime I could recommend. But yeah you're right, Kill la Kill is an ecchi (even though it's an amazing series), so it contradicts the idea of me recommending you great non-ecchi anime. Don't know why I put Kill la Kill. Nek0 said: PokestarFan said: ^ OP just finished watching Kill la Kill, which is nearly as close to hentai as you can get. I don't watch hentai because I feel there is no real plot/character development, so I stick to ecchi. Kill la Kill is not that hard on the ecchi stuff, as most ecchi are. Shimoneta has a scene where a guy gets raped by a naked girl which was totally hot. That's as close to hentai as it gets. |
HopefulNihilist said: Kill la Kill is not that hard on the ecchi stuff, as most ecchi are. Shimoneta has a scene where a guy gets raped by a naked girl which was totally hot. That's as close to hentai as it gets. On the contrary, KLK doesn't leave as much to the imagination as some ecchi do. |
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| Do what you want, watching ecchi doesnt make you bad person.... Atleast you are not into Rape Hentai |
JaemaeMay 31, 2019 2:05 AM
| There's never anything wrong with what you watch. Doing things can only ever be wrong if they involve interacting with or otherwise affecting other people (or creatures) in some way. If such things dominate your life, then you'll want to be concerned from a self-care perspective, but you still won't be doing anything 'wrong'. |
| I mean as long as your not negating personal responsibilities no there is nothing wrong with enjoying the hobby you love in whatever way that is. |
Ryuk9428 said: Sphinxter said: Not any more than the indication that murder is something one find entertaining to view. Wherefore would jacking of be any worse than merely enjoying the sight of murder, arguments, or Starfleet luring the Romulans into a war with the Dominion by blowing up an ambassador's ship and framing the Dominion for it? Yes because jacking off to it indicates that you are sexually aroused by pure violence, which is an incredibly disturbing thought. The others could be that you enjoy watching the bad guys' plan get foiled, you might be happy to see the hero winning. You might be watching that show because its got a good story, and violence just happens to be part of that story. Just going through the thread again lots of people enjoy visceral violence they are not in the minority there quite a few games have very over the top gorey violence because people find it satisfying. I don't think anyone played Mortal Kombat for the plot. Lots of people play violent video games for the fantasy of power or control they have. Some people have certain erotica fantasies. All healthy people though realize these are all fantasies and not related to real life. I like more wholesome content in my hentai lol but hey if people want fantasies like that they are entitled to it. The actual amount of influence media has on people has shown to be limited when it does have influence those people tend to have a lot of other psychological problems. |
PokestarFan said: Kruszer said: No, unless it's the only genre you watch, then you switch it up a bit and diversify. This goes for any genre. Too much of the same of same thing often leads to a burnout. I too like my fanservice and hentai shows. Ok if I want to switch out ecchi I would want to watch comedy-esque shows. Do you know any? Ah! My Goddess Amagami SS Amagi Brilliant Park And Yet the Town Moves Azumanga Daioh B Gata H Kei Chobits Dirty Pair The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. Excel Saga FLCL Galaxy Angel GTO-Great Teacher Onizuka Haganai Hinamatsuri Irresponsible Captain Tylor K-ON Love, Chunibyo, and Other Delusions Lovely Complex Maid Sama Martian Successor Nadesico The Malancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya My Bride is a Mermaid Natsu no Arashi One Punch Man Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei Seiran Squid Girl Welcome to the NHK The World God Only Knows Wotokoi: Love is hard for an Otaku |
KruszerMay 31, 2019 11:50 AM
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| I don't think many people understand erotica these days, whether with or without explicit content. Tell your friend to watch his amateur videos of mentally ill crack whores and continue doing what you enjoy. Though I would say that the more raunchy ecchi and hentai tend to get very bad adaptions. Not saying everything is high art, but often times the framework is missing and artstyle gets murdered in the process. Something worth looking into, imo |
So I decided to check how "bad" it was. I came to a conclusion that there isn't a lot of ecchi in your list compared to mine and my friends. this made me concerned for myself :). So no there is no problem. |
| No it's not wrong but there is the danger of going off the deep end and ending up like this |
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