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| Yeah, this episode has kinda completely lost me as, while it's obvious Ayanokoji has done something to cause all of this to happen, that still doesn't explain several things: obviously, he wasn't involved in the panty theft last week, so who was? And how would his actions actually cause the leader of Class D to change, assuming that's even his intent? After all, while you can change leader with sufficient reason to do so, surely you can't just hide that from your classmates, at least not with how Class D have been hiding their leader from the other classes? And even if he could hide a change of leadership (with himself presumably becoming the leader in such an event), wouldn't that make the rest of the class really suspicious if he did so without explanation (and no, I'm not accepting that they'd gloss over it because of his general lack of presence (in fact, based on how this arc has gone I'd expect that to make them even more suspicious if anything). Furthermore, I know Horikita is way too proud to just give up on the test herself, I find it ridiculous that Ayanokoji would go to all this trouble just to get her out of it: surely there's many easier and less ridiculous ways he could have gone about this? Having one episode left to clear all of this (and more) up is really not filling me with any confidence whatsoever. |
| another speculashit and assumpshit -Ibuki get shocked in underwear thievery and arson scene -Ibuki accused Horikita as arsonist not underwear theft also, after seeing Ayano's trust, Ibuki blushed a bit, felt slightly relieved. so her relation with class D is more like Indifferent than hostile. she won't do anything unless provoked. I bet the culprit incite Ibuki with false perception and said it was Horikita who started everything, so I thought someone who might do this is Kushida. Kushida is the one who promote Horikita as class D leader, she get interaction with Ibuki alot, even before all this whole-'misery' started. I just can't think any reason for Ayano to do this. |
gladisrSep 21, 2017 1:55 AM
| I don't get it why this is a 1-cour show with all of those back stories, especially the MC, and secrets about certain characters like Kushida when it seems those stuffs must be revealed on this season. Or at least on the next season if there will be. |
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| So it was obvious from 20 episodes ago that Ayanokoji was suspicious of Ibuki and figured that she was going to sabotage their class. Now it seems like he's doing what he can do befriend (fool) Ibuki be feigning friendliness. In the mean time, I believe Ayanokoji made that fire, and set up Horikita and Ibuki to make Ibuki believe Horikita did it, so he could "dump all the credit onto Horikita" again. At the same time, he's also reunited the entire class that was on verge of losing all trust in each other, by creating a common enemy out of Ibuki, who was suspicious anyway. If the book that was burned was the class's catalogue for buying stuff with points, then the entire class will now be forced to really step it up and work together better to keep finding food for the rest of the test. A smart move, assuming Ayanokoji did that. Ayanokoji is bound to help Horikita get to class A, so I doubt he's betraying her here. But who knows? I had some doubts about Ibuki actually doing anything, but no one else has actually been showing up, so either Ayanokoji managed to get Ibuki to work for him, or there's another outsider from another class who's been going around to do this stuff. Or Ibuki is doing it of her own accord/for her class. Who knows. They're really putting Horikita through some shit though. If Ayanokoji is behind any of it, it really shows his character - he doesn't really care about anyone and only helps just because. Even if he's not behind it, he walked off into the forest, he must've been at least watching and letting it continue. The rest of the class is still too trusting for whatever reason. Ayanokoji is also slowly learning more of his classmates weaknesses, and saving them from their own problems. |
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DVDMeister said: Then this is what I don't understand or that I've missed something, but Ayanokouji states to Ibuki that he trusts her. I wanna ask why? We see the other guys suspicious about her just because she's from another class and with how she behaved towards them when they tried helping her out and trusting her, which are legitimate reasons, yet he isn't? Is it because she was often seen all beat up? Then why did she reveal herself stealing Horikita's card she suddenly decided to fight Horikita? I see no reason to do such a thing. In fact, why did she suddenly thank Ayanokouji for saying that he trusts her, what with how she previously behaved towards the class before about them being too trusting and whatnot? If this is because he is somehow the one behind everything, then what is the point of it all. If it's to not make Horikita look like the leader, then I see no reason to go through all of this. Ayanokoji could easily be doing it to gain her trust. He might also have some kind of dirt on her, seeing as he dug up the location she was found hurt. Also, if you look at the freudian slips she's given out during the course of her meeting class D, it's obviously apparent that Ayanokoji knows that she's also pretty much expecting war between the classes, that she basically cautioned them against the fact that she could easily decide to sabotage them and take advantage of their kindness, and that while she might be truthful enough to say that, she's still likely to go through with doing something anyway. That, or she may be someone who can be won over. ---- I'm certain Ayanokoji isn't behind the panty-thief incident, but he could be behind the stolen card and fire. If he's behind the fire, then this may be his way of "flushing Ibuki out" so that she can't stay there any longer. It's apparent that Ibuki didn't start the fire, so she was probably only there to steal the card and perhaps get the class to turn in on itself and start up some inner-fighting, like what the panty-thief incident caused. |
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| I'm kind of confused as to why she thought of MC as soon as blue-haired girl said "arson"? |
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| What a load of crap. Only exciting thing was Hiratas body. |
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| i suspect its yamauichi, his face really looks like bad guy. and ayanokoji will just safe the day for the finale. probs lol |
Kzalca said: I`m glad this show follows the rule "Show, don`t tell" These past episodes, Ayanokouji was definitely up to something. Obviously he`s behind all this. The fact that Ayanokouji said "okay" when Ibuki arrived at the shower stall meant the job was done. He probably even had Horikita take out the card just to let Ibuki see where it was hidden. They even had a shot of Ibuki looking at Horikita and Ayanokouji in the river scene. Also, Did he blackmail Ibuki? I mean he probably saw something in the dirt that he could use. idk. I REALLY HOPE HE`S BEHIND THIS. If he is, he`s a fucking manipulating son of a bitch EDIT: The flashback... The fact that he was all alone at the end, Might be a foreshadowing of what he might do to his classmates. He will do anything just to get to the top. I wonder if he`ll turn out to be the bad guy in the end. Maybe that`s why they wanted him to get expelled... I will say that their is a 90% chance that it all went as planned while sacrificing Suzune in the proces but I don't think that he will sacrify Suzume, at least not intentionly. I think that what we saw was him been force to form part of an experiment that he may had been the only survivor, so I think he mainly regrets it and I don't think that he would sacrify Suzune as part of his plan. what is 100% sure is that this is a "Trojan horse" plot, being her from class C, it is unlikely that they dropped out like we where led to believe, if so that will explain the D class guy that swimed to the boat, he was send to confirm the drop out of class C. becouse this is the oldest trick in the book I only gave it a 50% chance at the start but after I saw another "Trojan horse" at clase A it rised my suspicion to 100%, but because I expected that Ayanokouji will expose them, & he did not, I wasn't sure anymore. |
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| That Yamauchi guy pissed me off. Who would put mud on someone hairs like than especially on girl!! that guy has a serious mental problem. The fighting scene on this series is so good but its short. |
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| ok that was absurd but obvious too..too bad for horikta |
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| We all know that Ayanokouji was given an ultimatum by Sae-sensei, about his probable expulsion, so in this case he has a good motive to scheme for them to win the survival test. Probably, he's behind the key card stealing and he did win Ibuki's trust, so he's now using Ibuki. I hope they make a decent ending. |
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Neizaru said: Chiyousagi said: Most likely class A already knew horikita is the leader(and honestly the only 100% method to hide your leader's identity is to switch out leader on the last day) Do they though? I mean they might be guessing, and everyone in this school is horribly stupid for using people that stand out as leaders rather than some inconspicious background characters, but it's doubtful anyone has any reliable info about each other. Unless this is part of deal betwen D and C to correctly guess other leaders with 100% accuracy with the switch at the very to deny everyone else points, and that would be a pretty clever move, but why didn't Ayanokoji tell Ibuki about the fire beforehand if they're working together? That's the only part that doesn't make sense. Funny thought, what if the person at the end is Hirata as part of his not wanting to be a failure plan? If Ayanokoji saying he trusts Ibuki only meant that she wasn't orignally part of this but only later Hirata got her to agree to take the card and Ibuki is just being used here to smoke out the responsible? Well ok what we are being shown thus far for this test arc are the following points. Leader can be changed, but a valid reason is needed. Wristband are to be worn at all times(which likely means audio surveillance. This is a test after all), failure to do so will result in points deducted. Sensei told Ayanokouji to "buck up" or he get the boot. To quote what the creators in re:creators love to use, foreshadow(tho we aint see any anywhere lol). Using those 3 points we know that Ayanokouji is going to pull something off in this test arc, and WIN. And the twist WILL involve a leader change. So although it seems impossible for class A to figure out class D leader, somehow the author will come out with some kind of excuse for class A. After all, if nobody know class D's leader, then the leader change that Ayanokouji is gonna pull off will not be impressive. So unless I am totally off and class D is actually supposed to suffer a defeat here(then the leader swap will be instead done by another class say maybe class A. But all in all, you can be absolutely certain one of the class is gonna pull a leader swap.) I believe this test arc is for class D to earn points and close the gap to class A since MC is in class D so plot armor advantage. That said I am rather confused by how students moving to class A work. It should be individuals, but if so class point should be meaningless. So maybe plothole?(as in Ayanokouji class shouldn't become class A once their class point exceed the initial class A) Another reason why my guess is as per my post is that next week is the last episode. So there isn't much time for more drama. If Ibuki stealing the key card is not instructed by Ayanokouji, there isn't enough time to resolve everything. Should the arson and stealing key card is the deed of Ayanokouji, then nothing need to be "solved" but just filling in the off screen scene. I doubt the guy walking up to Ibuki is Hirata. No reason for Ibuki to really listen to anyone in class D(except Ayanokouji who went back to dig the spot) plus letting the key card get stolen doesn't benefit Hirata too.(Unless I am wrong and Hirata's flaw is he is actually some destructive guy who wanna watch the world burn lol) The wristband likely is the cause why whoever the mastermind is isn't so straight forward with the collaborator. So ppl wonder why Ibuki and Horikita are surprised by the arson, I say it is because to trick whoever is listening on them, Ayanokouji need to trick the girls too. Of cuz he can write down his plan and let the girls read, but I suppose he is going for real emotion over acting lol. |
| Well... what to say... Horikita has a nice body :D |
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| tbh I cant enjoy watch this anime like the first, but just 1 episode left. finish it and never watch again. |
| Just ranting. Like many others above, i think it's Ayanokouji at the end. He seems to have found something which he either blackmails Ibuki with or a shared motive (more likely). He gets her to steal the card. Bringing down at least class C(read: Ryuen) seems good enough for now. The teacher only told him to aim for A, not to achieve it immediately. As for the panties, I think it was done by Hirata to defame Ike (virtual leader in this test). It being his GF prolly just made him more trustworthy (as he mentioned himself). The gf, being the victim, would obviously have a greater say in the ongoings, and he could manipulate her. Apparently, he doesn't know about the key card. Knocking Horikita out forces a leader change (something he schemes is gonna be good). Hirata seems to just want being looked up to, and is devasted when something unexpected happens (fire, maybe started by MC to cause panic). His freedom must be protected at any cost. The may be another rule to the test we don't know about yet. The next episode title also suggests this. Koenji is involved in this. He's probably a spy. Works out the leaders and stuff. I doubt there's going to be some conspiracy with the other classes (except Ibuki and the other guy from class C). The wristbands haven't been used for much yet except maybe verifying the leader's identity. With GPS tracking and mics involved, this could play a big role. Haven't seen Sakura in a while. Wonder if she's involved too. If only we knew what Ibuki buried there. With so much going on, including MC's flashback, I don't see how this is all going to wrap up nicely in one episode. Edit: Added a few words. |
iCsavSep 21, 2017 9:47 AM
| Somehow decent but still mediocre episode, I don't like how so easy Horikita loses his card and the annoying girls of the class D still blames the boys LMAO. I read the spoiler about the traitor from the novel and it was obvious from the start, i was right all along, it was toooo easy even if i never read the spoiler. Where is the MC past? We still with flashbacks! If we know the MC past in the final episode it will be rushed and if we didn't maybe we never know. |
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| I was also thinking there was something with Horikita, and now we know she have been sick... I am sure Ayanakouji asked Horikita to show the card so Ibuki would see and steal it, he was sure she was up to something and he found whatever she buried...I believe Ibuki might be working with the bold guy from class A... |
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doombringer121 said: Can someone explain to me why this god dammed awful show get a ratting or 8.0 -7.9 ? Even though the plot is bland as sh*t. really? I dont get it mal point are retarded. Stupid plot. classic OP main laying low, it suppose to be showing how awesome Main character solving stuff stealthily but it it doesnt. Replace MC with a normal guy and it would still have stay the same. This show is so deep in its own asshole to make it look mysterious but it just shit. I REALLY DONT GET IT, the score, really Mal viewer ? shit like this get 8.0 for zero plot development , comment section 80% comprise of people shitting on it but somehow there is still some people saying "why this show not getting popular". Really?, a secret OP Main Cast doing nothing is impressing you ?? , But show like Princess principle with nothing but praises in its weekly episode comments stay at 7.5 rating ???. I keep checking its score before watching and its still at 7.9. but somehow still managed to wasting my time. SOMEONE PLEASES EXPLAIN WHY IM KEEP DOING THIS . fast fowarding this shitty anime and still coundnt fine anything interresting Fanservice to fap, waifus, harems, everything less plot (except early episodes). This is how has a high score on MAL. |
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| Why all the hate ?! This was good episode I think Kushida is behind all of this. I hope it is because love evil Kushida |
| I started this series with high hopes, and for the most part I liked it. But knowing this is only 12 episodes and they've spent a lot of time on this island, not really doing much imo, is kinda disappointing. One of the things that bugs me the most is that right now, I can see three or four more episodes to wrap this arc up. There is one episode left. I really hope they dont end with a tbc kinda thing, but I also don't hope they rush the hell out of the last episode. The plot right now seems kinda messy, and I'm constantly wondering if it was better in the LN. The episode itself wasn't that bad though, it wasn't great either. |
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doombringer121 said: Can someone explain to me why this god dammed awful show get a ratting or 8.0 -7.9 ? Even though the plot is bland as sh*t. really? I dont get it mal point are retarded. Stupid plot. classic OP main laying low, it suppose to be showing how awesome Main character solving stuff stealthily but it it doesnt. Replace MC with a normal guy and it would still have stay the same. This show is so deep in its own asshole to make it look mysterious but it just shit. I REALLY DONT GET IT, the score, really Mal viewer ? shit like this get 8.0 for zero plot development , comment section 80% comprise of people shitting on it but somehow there is still some people saying "why this show not getting popular". Really?, a secret OP Main Cast doing nothing is impressing you ?? , But show like Princess principle with nothing but praises in its weekly episode comments stay at 7.5 rating ???. I keep checking its score before watching and its still at 7.9. but somehow still managed to wasting my time. SOMEONE PLEASES EXPLAIN WHY IM KEEP DOING THIS . fast fowarding this shitty anime and still coundnt fine anything interresting I think the rating is mostly due to the beginning of the series, where I would say it was arguably good. Once the season ends I have no doubt that the rating will drop a bit. Another thing to think about is that it is one of the better shows of the season as well. While the past few episodes have been week, on the whole it is good. |
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| Hirata's mental fortitude isn't that high, is it? Matters took an intriguing turn. I am anxious to find out how Ayanokouji fits into the greater scheme of things. I'm hoping he is the one who asked Ibuki to fetch the item. Ah, the ominous darkness, I cannot get enough of it! |
Daniel_Naumov said: Lord_of_Anime said: Am I the only person that feels the pacing is way off!? I mean there is only one episode left and not much has really happened in this anime...like they keep teasing Ayanokoji's backstory but the never dive into it and it's super frustrating...I guess we'll have to see how they handle the final episode I am afraid this is how it is... like, ever. Once again, Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon. Very enticing, deep and powerful. Only got two season 12 episodes each. I am waiting for what, 6-7 years for them to continue. Guess the same happens here. They might have it all planned though, in this sense it is similar to the "Assassination Class", which also came out and wrapped itself neatly in two goes. Something worth beholding is taking long before fulfilling itself, and something not really so is going on over the 100th episode. Gotta stay steadfast. I want to believe... Yeah but I've seen lots of anime that do a brilliant job with only 12 episodes or less...look at Anohana or Angel Beats! they are perfect examples of how a 12 episode anime can tell a story effectively |
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| that was an intense episode |
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| Really intrigued to see what Ayano's plan to turn this whole thing around is. |
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| A nice episode so far. The story is progressing but not enough for the next episode :( WHY!!!!! still 5/5 no overrated or underrated so whatever.... lol. LOL, Are humans even equal? Me: No, not even a bit! Same with reality, Human are now like this. Using a majority group to win the situation is one of the worst thing in the world. LOL. They don't even know a thing!!! What's truth? Happiness? "there's no such thing a happiness in the truth!" Pain? "To keep them suffer?!"(MEMES) NOTE: Truth is scary af. |
| maybe its ayanokoji's plan to have horikita retire and get a rest due to her sickness without negative effect on their class |
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| I kinda enjoyed the fight |
| If we dont find out whats up with Horikitas arm Ill be pissed off. She held her own for someone who is sick thats for sure. God Damn what a body...holy lord. Ayanokoji knows some shit. |
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| Interesting episode looks like someone is indeed trying to break the unity that class D has managed to establish. Looks like things will come to a head next episode. Can't wait to see who actually wanted the key card in the first place. |
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| Holy fuck the blue haired girl who kept complaining is the shallowest, most infuriating girl I have ever fucking seen. Had me pulling my hairs out by the end |
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| One of the better episodes in this really annoying arc. I'm pretty sure it was Ayanokoji showing up at the end there, there would be no reason to make it anyone else when there's only one episode left. But damn Horikita is gonna feel like absolute shit when she gets better and realizes she was played. Everyone discussing Ayanokoji's plan but I'm more concerned about wtf Sakura is doing. She was last seen on Class C's beach and hasn't been seen again, but they made a point to show us she found or was looking at something before she disappeared. I wonder if it has anything to do with what's going on. This show having only 12 episodes is pretty stupid. Literally nothing has been explained or expanded on except the fact that Ayanokoji has a knack for saving the day every single time. What was the point of the first 6 episodes if it wasn't going to amount to anything? |
| I love it! I just loved it! I love it when there are conflicts within a small closed group. Who'd have thought Ayanokouji would do this? Next episode: "Geniuses only know a story of madness". |
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