Do you want Feminism in your Anime?
Yes, politics infesting entertainment is a good thing
18.8%
171
No, the Author's vision should be respected
81.2%
740
911 votes
| @Kistvaen_Mikvoth You'll need a bigger sample size that 800 persons who all got arrested by the police to make claims about "le leftists". Like, would we get the same numbers if we asked 800 random person in administrative positions in some leftist party? I'm pretty sure you see what's wrong with a study that has a biased sample size of barely 80 people/year; and are just trying to play smartass to defend your point. Well, try somewhere else, or try harder. |
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| Will you all just please stop replying to the OP? He has proved long ago he needs therapy at the very least and a semblance of grade school education. This SJW thing is way too overblown. This Anti-SJW circlejerk thing on the internet is the most annoying and retarded trend I've ever seen. Bless this f*cking abortion of a species. Thankfully these f*ckers are restricted to the internet and virtually none of them are making important decisions that determines the future of life and the species. Non est ad astra mollis e terris via. Piromysl said: We are living in a society, in which woman can be whoever she wants to be, and seek any carrier and education she desires. Just so you know, 3rd WORLD Feminism exist, which deals with 3rd World countries and cultures that set women back. Just in case. Because a whole lot of dumbasses keep forgetting that the movement is large and varied. They're not making news. But they're there. A simple f*cking google would tell you that. Go ahead. Google. Knowledge is at your fingertips. Ignorance is unacceptable. Piromysl said: No one will dismiss her, saying "sorry, but since you are a woman, we can't hire you". Do you honestly believe that patriarchy is trying to keep women locked in kitchen? That no one is generally actively dismissing them on the basis that they are women does not mean that they might not still be actively discouraged by society's defunct notions of defined gender roles. Admittedly, it's getting less and less prevalent. But it's still there. And whether that turd is a foot long or 1cm long, it still smells all the same. Heck, one of my relatives did not get anything more than elementary education because she's a girl and her lazy, useless brothers got one and did f*ck all with it. Piromysl said: No one prevents women from seeking any carrier career they want. There are many women in medicine, law, biological science. Even more than men. Why is that? Maybe because man and women have different interests? Same goes for wage gap. The myth of discouragement is yet another opportunity to cry oppression. Myth? Ho boy, where's your background in economics to tell me that? Cause you're up against someone with one. And I'll believe him more than I believe you. And I wish I could get in touch with him to get him to make a MAL account and tear this entire thing up. |
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Kistvaen_Mikvoth said: Nice, teenage leftards are really delusionnal... Just because your country is crappy doesn't mean everyone is in the same case. Brevity and intellect, right there. Crap your hands everybody. |
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| The poll is so freaking biased. Anyways, feminism isn't infesting anime now; it has already been there for a long time. It's pretty apparent if you check out works by female writers. And I think your political viewpoint is clouding your judgment. |
le_halfhand_easy said: Just so you know, 3rd WORLD Feminism exist, which deals with 3rd World countries and cultures that set women back. Just in case. Because a whole lot of dumbasses keep forgetting that the movement is large and varied. They're not making news. But they're there. A simple f*cking google would tell you that. Go ahead. Google. Knowledge is at your fingertips. Ignorance is unacceptable. I tried to google it and found nothing. They are still forced to wear hajibs, will get accused of adultery if raped, and can't drive cars. So, you either made it up or they make really poor job. Or maybe you mean someone like Linda Sarsour, who actively supports Sharia law and calls for Jihad? Just to be clear. Muslim feminists are oxymoron in its purest form. le_halfhand_easy said: That no one is generally actively dismissing them on the basis that they are women does not mean that they might not still be actively discouraged by society's defunct notions of defined gender roles. Admittedly, it's getting less and less prevalent. But it's still there. And whether that turd is a foot long or 1cm long, it still smells all the same. Heck, one of my relatives did not get anything more than elementary education because she's a girl and her lazy, useless brothers got one and did f*ck all with it. "It's society's fault, not mine!" I'm sick of this shit. And that little story you presented is so obviously made up, its not even worth mentioning. le_halfhand_easy said: Myth? Ho boy, where's your background in economics to tell me that? Cause you're up against someone with one. And I'll believe him more than I believe you. And I wish I could get in touch with him to get him to make a MAL account and tear this entire thing up. What?! xD This one is even better! |
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Piromysl said: flannan said: I am not obligated to answer your questions. Nor am I qualified to answer your question. I'm not even much of a feminist - I just hate ignorance and dumbness anti-feminists promote. But most importantly, we both know what the answer is most likely to be - "there are none". So your question is a rhetoric question that doesn't need answering. Do you see this contradiction and hypocrisy? And yes, that question was rhetorical, which will simply force your understanding of 3rd wave feminism. No, I do not. I have a working brain, and do not need every little thing spelled out to me. My answer to your question will not decrease your ignorance (we both know the answer already), hence I do not feel any desire to answer your question. On the other hand, I do not feel like playing along with your flawed argument, because I've heard it already, and I do not like you enough to play along just to please you. Piromysl said: flannan said: Sure. But where do the laws come into this equations? Laws are very much not facts (I can tell you this as a post-soviet survivor), and they don't even create much feelings. Feelings are very basis of feminist movement. You call everything sexist or misogynistic, because they simply disagree witch. They create "safe spaces" and are pro-censorships. They rarely provide reasonable arguments. And when they try, they just embarrass themselves, like their never dying myth of wage gap. Feminists are surrounded by such people, by which would never tell them that they are wrong, so it is worst tragedy for them. Okay, so laws have nothing to do with this, and you are just trying to frame feminism as built on lies. You should have said it from the start. I also find your problem with safe spaces to be utterly incomprehensible. Maybe you're part of extrovert conspiracy? Piromysl said: flannan said: And I exactly know what 3rd wave feminist is about. Did you learn it all personally, or did you just listen to anti-feminist propaganda by people who want to return people back under the yoke of aristocrats? I had few encounters personally. It is nothing pleasant. Also go watch movie called "The Red Pill (2016)". Really eye-opening. If you think it is propaganda, then instead calling sexism, try to prove it wrong. Who would want to watch a movie called "The Red Pill (2016)" ? It's obviously going to be full of manosphere propaganda. I have better things to do, you know. Like, watch the grass grow. Piromysl said: flannan said: There are people who call themselves "egalitarians". They are people who actively pretend everything is alright with the world, and go on to argue feminism is unnecessary. Except it's a lie. There is no true equality. For example, I've been learning in a moderately prestigious university. We had 1 woman to 5-10 men in the physics department, and 1 man to 5-10 women in the philology department. And it's not like doing physics or philology demands masculinity or femininity in any way. That was no coincidence, and nobody was surprised by that. And it's not like physics department is popular and smarter boys outcompete girls (in fact, the department is underpopulated, and took pretty much everybody who applied). Hence, something, somewhere, must be unequal. 3rd wave feminists think it's all about stereotypes - girls get discouraged from doing physics, and encouraged to do "feminine" things like philology instead. And they set out to correct this. Since I think the world would benefit from more physicists and less philologists (what do they do when they aren't teaching language in school?), I approve of their efforts. No one prevents women from seeking any carrier they want. There are many women in medicine, law, biological science. Even more than men. Why is that? Maybe because man and women have different interests? Same goes for wage gap. The myth of discouragement is yet another opportunity to cry oppression. Indeed, for some reason, there are many women in biology, but not in many women in physics. Why is it? Different interests, you say? Where does that come from, if not from discouragement? Would you make a silly argument that men naturally evolved to do quantum mechanics? By the way, why do you misspell "career" (jobs one does) as "carrier" (a ship that launches planes)? |
Piromysl said: I tried to google it and found nothing. They are still forced to wear hajibs, will get accused of adultery if raped, and can't drive cars. So, you either made it up or they make really poor job. Or maybe you mean someone like Linda Sarsour, who actively supports Sharia law and calls for Jihad? Just to be clear. Muslim feminists are oxymoron in its purest form. Try again. Because my google search for the phrases "Third Word Feminism" and "Postcolonial Feminism" comes up with results. Or not. You seem to be so set on this idea and I pick my battles on more worthwhile discussions. Piromysl said: "It's society's fault, not mine!" I'm sick of this shit. And that little story you presented is so obviously made up, its not even worth mentioning. I would quote Ernst Mayr on nature and nurture but I see it would all seem useless now. Thankfully I'm not subscribed to psychology journals or else I would be compelled to argue further. It's so obviously made up? You underestimate a poor rural family in a 3rd world backwater. Piromysl said: le_halfhand_easy said: Myth? Ho boy, where's your background in economics to tell me that? Cause you're up against someone with one. And I'll believe him more than I believe you. And I wish I could get in touch with him to get him to make a MAL account and tear this entire thing up. What?! xD This one is even better! Background in economics dear. Background in economics. Are you an expert in this particular topic? You don't sound like one. Ciao. I wish you good fortune in all your future endeavors. You're going to need all you can get. @EvanDara Pick your battles man. The OP is notorious for shits like this. Rarely do AD veterans ever acknowledge him |
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Comic_Sans said: I know right. Why can't all anime creators just shoehorn nazi propaganda into their anime instead? Yeah, it's going to be popular too. Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei - score 7.76. Japan is invaded by evil chinese, but our aristocratic hero bravely repels them. Centaur no Nayami - score 6.30. Japan is a pillar of racial equality where centaur and antarctian can be best friends. |
| Anime is the last thing that would advocate for feminism. Okay, maybe behind islam, lol. |
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flannan said: No, I do not. I have a working brain, and do not need every little thing spelled out to me. My answer to your question will not decrease your ignorance (we both know the answer already), hence I do not feel any desire to answer your question. On the other hand, I do not feel like playing along with your flawed argument, because I've heard it already, and I do not like you enough to play along just to please you. I'm speechless. :) flannan said: Who would want to watch a movie called "The Red Pill (2016)" ? It's obviously going to be full of manosphere propaganda. I have better things to do, you know. Like, watch the grass grow. flannan said: My answer to your question will not decrease your ignorance. Amazing! :D You should really define "ignorance". At least I can provide reasonable argument. flannan said: Indeed, for some reason, there are many women in biology, but not in many women in physics. Why is it? Different interests, you say? Where does that come from, if not from discouragement? Would you make a silly argument that men naturally evolved to do quantum mechanics? Once again "It's society's fault, not mine!" bullshit argument. From early ages young boys are drawn to toy cars and young girls to dolls. No one forces them to do that. And that is just an example. Men and woman would never be perfectly equal in everything. In some aspect women are better and man are inferior, and reverse. Blaming society is the most... ehm... ignorant thing you can do. flannan said: By the way, why do you misspell "career" (jobs one does) as "carrier" (a ship that launches planes)? I misspelled and english is not my native language. That never happened to you? Also, playing grammar Nazi, and trying to prove your point by pointing someone's grammar mistakes is pretty low. le_halfhand_easy said: Ciao. I wish you good fortune in all your future endeavors. You're going to need all you can get. Godspeed, good sir. |
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| Honestly I don't really mind it as, considering its fiction as long as there are also more works with better male characters, cause honestly the level of bitchy, limp-dick loser MC's is disgusting. We need more shit like Jojo where the male characters are not afraid of their own shadows. Tbh I don't need to agree with something's politics to enjoy it. For example Mad Max: Fury Road, pretty much made Max a side character in his own story and focused on Furiosa and female sovereignty. Still a kickass movie with great action scenes. Also that E;R review was great and made me see the movie in a new light. Or something else I saw recently at TIFF called Brawl in Cellbock 99. The director obviously had some right-wing bias and ultra patriotism going on... Not too great a depiction of immigrants and foreigners. Still a awesome action movie and Vince Vaughn was actually believable as a hardened badass. If it doesn't come from the actual director/studio etc. I don't think it should be arbitrarily inserted, for example when they changed the Prison School dub to target gamer gaters, but if the original creator has those ideas, then sure he should be able to express them in the medium. Thats the beauty of capitalism, if its trash it will be forgotten, but if it makes money, they'll make more like it. |
LoneWolfSep 17, 2017 9:43 AM
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
Piromysl said: Amazing! :D You should really define "ignorance". At least I can provide reasonable argument. here you go: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ignorance Ignorance is lack of knowledge regarding a particular subject. It should not be confused with stupidity; many people might be uninformed (ignorant) about the facts of, say, evolution, but are quite knowledgeable (not stupid) on many other subjects. Piromysl said: flannan said: Indeed, for some reason, there are many women in biology, but not in many women in physics. Why is it? Different interests, you say? Where does that come from, if not from discouragement? Would you make a silly argument that men naturally evolved to do quantum mechanics? Once again "It's society's fault, not mine!" bullshit argument. From early ages young boys are drawn to toy cars and young girls to dolls. No one forces them to do that. And that is just an example. Citation needed. Can you provide a peer-reviewed study that supports this claim? By the way, as a kid I preferred building blocks and their relatives. Sometimes I would build houses out of them and put my dolls (resembling animal-person-soldiers) in them. Piromysl said: Men and woman would never be perfectly equal in everything. In some aspect women are better and man are inferior, and reverse. Blaming society is the most... ehm... ignorant thing you can do. Indeed, men and women are not the same. This is the reason I want them to work hand-in-hand, providing their unique perspectives and abilities. Piromysl said: flannan said: By the way, why do you misspell "career" (jobs one does) as "carrier" (a ship that launches planes)? I misspelled and english is not my native language. That never happened to you? Also, playing grammar Nazi, and trying to prove your point by pointing someone's grammar mistakes is pretty low. It's just that you misspelled it the same way twice in the same post, so I thought there might be some political statement behind this. English is not my native language either. |
| political feminism is not welcomed to me personally, meaning, fire all males in top positions and replace them with females. but feminism in it's traditional form, criticizing male constructs of superiority and attempts to weaken female roles as simple house wives is fine to me. Men have been weakening women throughout history in different cultures, trying to control their sexuality, so it's no surprise feminism exists, and with that, I'm fine with. |
ReaperCreeper said: If it drives out whiny little bitches like you I can't wait for it to happen. Pretty much what I thought. It's a worthy sacrifice. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Here we go again. Bashing Ecchi series is now the norm now I guess... Because the threads says so. |
Even if I'm a feminist myself that's a funny picture. Nice one. Piromysl said: I tried to google it and found nothing. They are still forced to wear hajibs, will get accused of adultery if raped, and can't drive cars. So, you either made it up or they make really poor job. Or maybe you mean someone like Linda Sarsour, who actively supports Sharia law and calls for Jihad? Just to be clear. Muslim feminists are oxymoron in its purest form. Have you never heard about Malala Yousafzai? Her story was all over the news a couple of years back. I also found this article for you https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/aug/16/western-global-feminism-third-world Corvus8 said: Anime is the last thing that would advocate for feminism. Okay, maybe behind islam, lol. There are lots of anime that have feminist themes. One I keep hearing about is Revolutionary Girl Utena but I still need to see that one for myself. Also Hayao Miyazaki calls himself a feminist and admits it's why his protagonists are mostly girls. Here is one of his actual quotes.  |
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flannan said: here you go: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ignorance Ignorance is lack of knowledge regarding a particular subject. It should not be confused with stupidity; many people might be uninformed (ignorant) about the facts of, say, evolution, but are quite knowledgeable (not stupid) on many other subjects. Well done. Now define hypocrisy. flannan said: Citation needed. Can you provide a peer-reviewed study that supports this claim? By the way, as a kid I preferred building blocks and their relatives. Sometimes I would build houses out of them and put my dolls (resembling animal-person-soldiers) in them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-6usiN4uoA Random Youtube video. flannan said: Indeed, men and women are not the same. This is the reason I want them to work hand-in-hand, providing their unique perspectives and abilities. flannan said: Indeed, men and women are not the same. This is the reason I want them to work hand-in-hand, providing their unique perspectives and abilities. I think employer would rather hire only the best candidates. flannan said: It's just that you misspelled it the same way twice in the same post, so I thought there might be some political statement behind this. English is not my native language either. Getting desperate? holysauron said: Have you never heard about Malala Yousafzai? Her story was all over the news a couple of years back. I also found this article for you https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/aug/16/western-global-feminism-third-world If that's the case then I will stand for it. But the problem is, that 3rd wave feminists are openly supporting Islam from which she escaped. That is absurd. |
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| before I forget, I just want to point out I feel people are arguing about two different domains. Anti-feminists seem to be arguing about careers, jobs, people getting educated, and that women have no problem in this field. Feminists seem to be arguing in the domain of social life, interacting with men/and other women, their identity, self image/how they present themselves, taking care of a family. So I feel like there will continue to be disagreements until the barrier between professional life and social life is addressed. However, I think, because humans are social creatures, the social life will always outweigh the professional life. A rich women scientist with a Nobel prize with a crap social life is not going to be as satisfied as a poor women who shares the challenges equally in taking care of a family and the man loves her as a person and they accept their differences. Al though my example is debatable because happiness is relative, but I really meant fulfillment rather than happiness. All these assumptions basically depend on the question, are humans meant to be something other than a parent? |
Corvus8 said: Anime is the last thing that would advocate for feminism. Okay, maybe behind islam, lol. Studio Ghibli being one of the worlds most feministic film studios strongly objects to this. There's lots of feminism to be found in anime. |
Here you go: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hypocrisy Hypocrisy is a deceitful tactic used most often by those in power, who say "you must do this" or "you cannot do that" or " this is wrong," while purporting that they themselves do not do said thing when, in fact, they do. Piromysl said: flannan said: Citation needed. Can you provide a peer-reviewed study that supports this claim? By the way, as a kid I preferred building blocks and their relatives. Sometimes I would build houses out of them and put my dolls (resembling animal-person-soldiers) in them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-6usiN4uoA Random Youtube video. Random Youtube video is very much not a peer-reviewed study. And the top comment says the video is outright deceitful. I have an article on rationalwiki about C.H.Summers, though. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Christina_Hoff_Sommers Piromysl said: flannan said: Indeed, men and women are not the same. This is the reason I want them to work hand-in-hand, providing their unique perspectives and abilities. I think employer would rather hire only the best candidates. I think it will not be the best cost/benefit solution, and most work is better done with one or two best people and a bunch of mediocre people supporting them. Piromysl said: Getting desperate? No, I just have major doubts about your sanity. |
Clebardman said: _LapisLazuli said: I'm Asian and I still find it weird that westerners care so much about it. In my country, everyone just live together without a problem. Everyone knows everyone's difference but chooses to ignore it, does not bring it up for attention. Honestly, it's really weird. Why don't you guys just get over it? Accept the difference. And please don't force your culture on us :( Aw don't give me the "Asia doesn't need feminism" BS where everything is pink and good. Japan has women-only cars in trains because they fail to teach people not to rape girls. They're not the only asian country in that case either. "just lives together without a problem" yeah right. I still remember that weeb third wave feminist I was working with. She wrote a 2 pages essay on Facebook saying that french men where pigs for looking at her legs when she was wearing a miniskirt, and wanted to emigrate to Japan, the perfect place of equality. The reality check was hard when three different girls came to say "lol u dumb I live in Japan and got followed two hours by a creep on bicycle/groped in the train today, it happens every week" OT: voted yes to piss you off, cringe OP Here comes Clebardcuck riding in on his white horse to save the asian m'ladies. Do you ever get tired of vilifying your own gender and pushing the women as victims narrative? Also have you even fucking been to Asia? Or do you have any Asian ancestry? Do you realize how retarded it looks like when you're telling someone from Asia about his/her country and don't even live there and are not part of the culture? Do you think they teach men that it's okay to rape girls in Japan? Wtf kind of alternate reality do you live in? Last time I checked rape was illegal in every fucking country no matter what the culture is. Unless the victims happen to be male prison inmates. People know that stealing is wrong too, it doesn't mean they're not going to steal shit. Teaching men not to rape is such a redundant thing to do and only feeds into their own retard ideology and assumptions about men as a whole. |
LoneWolfSep 17, 2017 10:59 AM
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
| Never. I mean, it could happen indirectly, and indeed it happens. The characters don't go around hating on men, nor complaining about men privilege just because they don't get cat called, but we've had anime series with women on fields they don't usually do. In New Game Umiko is a programmer also Nene does. In almost every anime there are strong women, with good fighting skills. However that's equality not feminism. I disagree with the idea of feminism in anime because it's nothing more than fighting against men's rights and acting blind with real issues. I just can't describe how feminism in anime would look like. Why I say this? Well, watch Dr Shaym's videos on feminism. He even provides reliable sources of what he says. Feminism is not equality. Actions speak louder than words and feminism is not what it claims to be. |
| Many anime out there are already cancerous, we don't need even more cancer. But aside from "joking", if Japan is a country that needs feminism, because women aren't treated the same way as men, then yeah probably. But if not, then i don't see any reason. Othe than that, what @Qans said above pretty much fills in my opinion |
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| @spuukiebuugi I actually have a fairly neutral stance on the actual topic. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1666038&show=100#msg52355178 It was just Clebard's whiteknighting and moral grand standing that I have a problem with. Also when did I say I as an MRA? I actually feel like the movement is futile. The laws are not gonna change no matter how many conventions you have or how many times you point out how biased they are. I respect what they do and its good that they are trying to help individual men, but they just can't change the system. Also are you not doing the exact same shit with your whole "rationalist" crap? Pretty much pretending you're better than everyone else and that you're always right? Just another form of tribalism. |
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| If you are talking about Modern Feminism, the one that is offended by everything that produces a shadow, then they better stay away from anime. That said, I don't oppose female protagonists or stuff like that in anime or otherwise. |
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holysauron said: Corvus8 said: Anime is the last thing that would advocate for feminism. Okay, maybe behind islam, lol. There are lots of anime that have feminist themes. One I keep hearing about is Revolutionary Girl Utena but I still need to see that one for myself. Also Hayao Miyazaki calls himself a feminist and admits it's why his protagonists are mostly girls. Here is one of his actual quotes. zodd0 said: Studio Ghibli being one of the worlds most feministic film studios strongly objects to this. There's lots of feminism to be found in anime. No, there are very few examples of feminism in anime. I'm not talking about these small niches, except Studio Ghibli. Look at the popular anime titles and most of the female characters are exactly that, fanservice, love interests and just support characters in which the anime could have do without them. There aren't many, which actually have female characters that have an interesting personality, an own will and thinking, a plot around them etc. Most female protagonists are in Ecchi/Romance animes. Give me some examples of good female protagonists of a Shounen/Adventure/Fantasy anime? |
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spuukiebuugi said: LoneWolf said: @spuukiebuugi I actually have a fairly neutral stance on the actual topic. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1666038&show=100#msg52355178 It was just Clebard's whiteknighting and moral grand standing that I have a problem with. Also when did I say I as an MRA? I actually feel like the movement is futile. The laws are not gonna change no matter how many conventions you have or how many times you point out how biased they are. I respect what they do and its good that they are trying to help individual men, but they just can't change the system. Also are you not doing the exact same shit with your whole "rationalist" crap? Pretty much pretending you're better than everyone else and that you're always right? Just another form of tribalism. You come across to me as a highly paranoid person, which is how most MRAs are, and you base your perception of women off being seemingly rejected by them. You unironically use the word "cuck". Reevaluating, this all comes across as very r/incel to me, and I don't respect that kind of groupthink either, so needless to say, I reject how bitter and nasty you are either way. I already stated in another thread that most retarded radfems focus primarily on first world problems. And until they start trying to legislate things that'll somehow corrupt law and order, beyond superficial garbage like mansplaning, I will still obviously campaign against them, but not be concerned that they're making an impact. I have way more concern for SJWs trying to force their "preferred pronouns" and "third gender" garbage into work and academea than I do with radfems at the present time. So you're pretty much just making baseless assumptions? Yeah that really comes off as mature and rational. You're really living up to that "rationalist" label there. I have a job, a car, I work out almost religiously and on occasion I do date (although I almost always regret it). I have also been rejected, but literally every single guy has been rejected at some point. How exactly am I bitter and nasty? Again you're just using shaming language to try to shut me down. What the fuck is the point of just making personal attacks and not engaging with the actual issues? It sounds like you just enjoy talking shit about people. I don't mind using people's pronouns if they ask politely, but if they're going to jail or fine you for that shit, then it can fuck right off. This is why I'm talking about the laws are changing, because there are feminists entrenched in the institutions and they're pushing their ideology through laws and policies. Women are getting free passes and men are getting sent to jail. You're pretending like I'm a conspiracy theorist, when the shit is happening right in front of you. I'm not gonna campaign against shit. Theres no fucking point, it won't make a difference. The point of my threads and posts is to just to raise awareness and help people avoid those kinds of mistakes. |
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Corvus8 said: Give me some examples of good female protagonists of a Shounen/Adventure/Fantasy anime? If we're talking main main characters that happens to be female, Balsa Yonsa (Serei no Moribito) and Erin (Kemono no Souja Erin). |
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Corvus8 said: No, there are very few examples of feminism in anime. I'm not talking about these small niches, except Studio Ghibli. Look at the popular anime titles and most of the female characters are exactly that, fanservice, love interests and just support characters in which the anime could have do without them. There aren't many, which actually have female characters that have an interesting personality, an own will and thinking, a plot around them etc. Most female protagonists are in Ecchi/Romance animes. Give me some examples of good female protagonists of a Shounen/Adventure/Fantasy anime? You need to look at anime beyond Shounen. Obviously the most popular trash anime won't have feminism. Find quality anime and you will find feminism. |
| Oh god no, feminism is cancer. We don't need that shit in anime. |
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| I think the misconception with feminism is largely rooted in the fact that people believe it to be a centralized movement when it's really not. Virtually anybody can claim to be feminist and raise some shit left and right. You're a female and you want your videogame to sell? Claim you're a feminist, raise some shit, profit. Simple. That's why I find the argument between the western based feminism and postcolonial feminism interesting, with the former arguing for a much more unified front and the latter maintaining that feminism ventures into 3rd world countries works best as a case-to-case basis due to the variety of cultures and sensibilities they must tiptoe around delicately. |
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| I think the misconception with feminism is largely rooted in the fact that people believe it to be a centralized movement when it's really not. Virtually anybody can claim to be feminist and raise some shit left and right. You're a female and you want your videogame to sell? Claim you're a feminist, raise some shit, profit. Simple. That's why I find the argument between the western based feminism and postcolonial feminism interesting, with the former arguing for a much more unified front and the latter maintaining that feminism ventures into 3rd world countries works best as a case-to-case basis due to the variety of cultures and sensibilities they must tiptoe around delicately. |
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| Kill la Kill is pretty feminist if you count strong women characters as being feminist. |
| What would Golgo do? |
Mandanara said: Kill la Kill is pretty feminist if you count strong women characters as being feminist. The problem being that feminism itself isn't feminist. @OP Considering that i met someone on MAL that non-ironically defended menstruation, i believe anime would be better as it is. |
zodd0 said: You need to look at anime beyond Shounen. Obviously the most popular trash anime won't have feminism. Find quality anime and you will find feminism. I think i found most of the quality anime already, and it's a small amount. |
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thewiru said: Considering that i met someone on MAL that non-ironically defended menstruation, i believe anime would be better as it is. what there is do defend about menstruation? It's just a fact of nature. Most of women in reproductive age menstruate. If it needs to be portrayed in anime depends whether it's beneficial to the story. |
| What would Golgo do? |
Mandanara said: thewiru said: Considering that i met someone on MAL that non-ironically defended menstruation, i believe anime would be better as it is. what there is do defend about menstruation? It's just a fact of nature. Most of women in reproductive age menstruate. If it needs to be portrayed in anime depends whether it's beneficial to the story. PeripheralVision said: Not sure how menstruation is "political", unless we go into birth control, quite honestly. Women naturally menstruate. I mean...I hope we all know that is factual, if the bloody tampons and blood stains I have encountered in the toilet bowl are any proof. The user in question implied that the fact that menstruation is icky is a social construct in order to opress women. When i said that argument made no sense and made the compared to feces and urine he still said that "they were treated differently". |
| Forcing down feminism into an anime just makes it so much less enjoyable |
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