What is it with people that reject any kind of different sexuality in anime (Loli, traps, shota, incest, S&M etc.)
| Zefyris, I really think you should take it easy with your ego. You may speak Japanese and all, but... Since when wikipedia is a reliable source, for starters? AFAIK, the term "Eroge" is a corruption of the term "Erotic Game" (Ero-Gēmu). "Erotic" is a term referent to the Greek god Eros, son of Aphrodite, and god of love. The term "Erotic" is without a doubt, used to describe anything that shows explicit sexuality and/or incites so. With this in mind, my friend, no matter how a genius PhD Quantum Physicist in Japanese you are, you are clearly mistaken in this matter, and your arrogance and pride is only making it worse for you. |
Ckan said: Zefyris said: Which is all when and good until you remember the part that if you're the only one who can 'understand', then you're defeating the purpose of having an argument on a forum.While it's true the phycisist might be in the right, neither is the layman completely at fault for being incapable of following an argument based on esoteric knowledge. The phycisist is equally to blame if he cannot in some method convincingly prove that this "higher" explanation isn't some madman's poppycock. We call it the burden of proof. No... Cause like... If he smarter, then he no have to explain shit... gg Seriously though, who spends an entire post fluffing themselves up without realizing that they have the burden of proof? |
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| Why can't the hentai lover understand that some people watch anime for great story and characters. Some people prefer fight scenes and some people prefer sex. I am firmly in the fights category btw. Some people don't want to watch porn and people shouldn't expect them too. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Ckan said: Zefyris said: Which is all when and good until you remember the part that if you're the only one who can 'understand', then you're defeating the purpose of having an argument on a forum.While it's true the phycisist might be in the right, neither is the layman completely at fault for being incapable of following an argument based on esoteric knowledge. The phycisist is equally to blame if he cannot in some method convincingly prove that this "higher" explanation isn't some madman's poppycock. We call it the burden of proof. Burden of proof isn't requesting you to provide a proof that the other party can understand without the proper knowledge. It request you to provide proof, and if the other party cannot understand it, they just have to rely on someone they trust and can understand that proof. SO no, sorry. All the best proof are going to be japanese. As for the physician, all the best proofs are going to be mathematical demonstrations. Words describing the demonstration is the same as me translating a japanese text; if you don't trust my words to begin with, you aren't going to trust the translation, wherever it comes from a mathematic formula or from a text written in Japanese. That's why again, it's not my problem if the other side cannot understand the proof provided. Because if I lower it to a level that the other side can understand, I will by the same time completely lower the value of it as a proof up to the point where it won't be trusted anymore. So why would I even do that. If I provide a source written in English, it won't have more value than the english wikipedia page, so we won't go anywhere there. I'm starting to get tired to have to explain everything here, you know. I provided the proof, burden of proof isn't on me anymore. In a trial, if a proof is too technical to be understood by the other party, the other party can hire experts on the domain to compensate it. No one ever forced the side providing proof to also provide the expert explaining it as well. And no one would want that anyway. Because if the expert is chosen by the other side, they're going to get suspicious about the choice of said expert. That's common sense, AGAIN. Also, stop talking about ego or whatever, seriously. If I talk to someone who has more knowledge than me on a subject, I won't get offended about it because it's a fact that he knows better. What you're doing since the start is refusing the fact that I know better and bitching about the proof I provide afterward because you cannot understand it. Ahhh, whatever, forget this; I'm done here. I'm tired of trying to argue with people who have decided right from the start that they're right when they don't even take the proper time to inform themselves before forming an opinion. I feel like someone trying to prove the theory of evolution to a creationist who has decided not to listen. On top of this peoples are starting to take my post as me trying to feel superior, ridiculous. Ad hominem attacks to try making me looking bad without ever taking the time to properly argue is disgusting. What a waste of time this is. |
ZefyrisJan 4, 2015 2:41 AM
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Zefyris said: Ckan said: Which is all when and good until you remember the part that if you're the only one who can 'understand', then you're defeating the purpose of having an argument on a forum. While it's true the phycisist might be in the right, neither is the layman completely at fault for being incapable of following an argument based on esoteric knowledge. The phycisist is equally to blame if he cannot in some method convincingly prove that this "higher" explanation isn't some madman's poppycock. We call it the burden of proof. Burden of proof isn't requesting you to provide a proof that the other party can understand without the proper knowledge. It request you to provide proof, and if the other party cannot understand it, they just have to rely on someone they trust and can understand that proof. SO no, sorry. All the best proof are going to be japanese. As for the physician, all the best proofs are going to be mathematical demonstrations. Words describing the demonstration is the same as me translating a japanese text; if you don't trust my words to begin with, you aren't going to trust the translation, wherever it comes from a mathematic formula or from a text written in Japanese. That's why again, it's not my problem if the other side cannot understand the proof provided. Because if I lower it to a level that the other side can understand, I will by the same time completely lower the value of it as a proof up to the point where it won't be trusted anymore. So why would I even do that. In short: "I don't want to have a reasonable discussion, so I'm going to overtly boost my own egotism while subtly shutting down and nullifying any chance the opposition has to rebut my argument." |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
| There is no proof for either side. Purely objective/based on personal moral standards. I don't want to watch sexy anime because I think it's disgusting but that's my opinion. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Lol @ morality argument. Meanwhile people are favoriting serial killer characters because it's so sophisticates & edge. |
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| Murder is less of a base human instinct. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Because most of the time its a tool for fanservice. Which makes for shallow shows. Which I do not like. I mean the name implies it. "Loli", if it wherent a fanservice only thing, it would be called child. Same with "trap". It would be called crossdressing boy, and would probably be rather a thing in an anime that explores gender insecurity and how it can happen from a young age. That would be interesting to see. "Shota" would be called little boy. Incest and S&M are the only terms that do not imply they are fanservice elements from the getgo. Yet in anime it is used almsot exclusively as such. The problem is that those themes are all used for fanservice rather than to make a decent story. And I am not a prude SJW or anything of the sorts, hell Ive probably fapped to hentai doujinshi of all above mentioned genres more than anyone here. But thats what hentai/doujinshi are for. But in anime I do like a good story and those elements usually are rather detrimental to a good story. Its okay to have fanservice shows but the number of them is just too damn high in anime. |
baki502 said: Because most of the time its a tool for fanservice. Which makes for shallow shows. Which I do not like. I mean the name implies it. "Loli", if it wherent a fanservice only thing, it would be called child. Same with "trap". It would be called crossdressing boy, and would probably be rather a thing in an anime that explores gender insecurity and how it can happen from a young age. That would be interesting to see. "Shota" would be called little boy. Incest and S&M are the only terms that do not imply they are fanservice elements from the getgo. Yet in anime it is used almsot exclusively as such. The problem is that those themes are all used for fanservice rather than to make a decent story. And I am not a prude SJW or anything of the sorts, hell Ive probably fapped to hentai doujinshi of all above mentioned genres more than anyone here. But thats what hentai/doujinshi are for. But in anime I do like a good story and those elements usually are rather detrimental to a good story. Its okay to have fanservice shows but the number of them is just too damn high in anime. *Clap, clap, clap* |
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baki502 said: See I'm still not convinced that these elements are overly prevalent to the point where quality shows are too far & few in-between. Just from the autumn season, of the 15~ or so shows that I picked up, only one was heavy on nudity (Trinity Seven). I just don't get why people complain when the choices are still abundant. Kiseijuu, Magic Kaito, Akatsuki no Yona, Mushishi, Bahamut, Garo. Must I keep going? Not even Sora no Method or Yuuki Yuuna, the two shows that were crawling with lolis, depicts them in any sexual connotation.Because most of the time its a tool for fanservice. Which makes for shallow shows. Which I do not like. I mean the name implies it. "Loli", if it wherent a fanservice only thing, it would be called child. Same with "trap". It would be called crossdressing boy, and would probably be rather a thing in an anime that explores gender insecurity and how it can happen from a young age. That would be interesting to see. "Shota" would be called little boy. Incest and S&M are the only terms that do not imply they are fanservice elements from the getgo. Yet in anime it is used almsot exclusively as such. The problem is that those themes are all used for fanservice rather than to make a decent story. And I am not a prude SJW or anything of the sorts, hell Ive probably fapped to hentai doujinshi of all above mentioned genres more than anyone here. But thats what hentai/doujinshi are for. But in anime I do like a good story and those elements usually are rather detrimental to a good story. Its okay to have fanservice shows but the number of them is just too damn high in anime. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: baki502 said: See I'm still not convinced that these elements are overly prevalent to the point where quality shows are too far & few in-between. Just from the autumn season, of the 15~ or so shows that I picked up, only one was heavy on nudity (Trinity Seven). I just don't get why people complain when the choices are still abundant. Kiseijuu, Magic Kaito, Akatsuki no Yona, Mushishi, Bahamut, Garo. Must I keep going? Not even Sora no Method or Yuuki Yuuna, the two shows that were crawling with lolis, depicts them in any sexual connotation.Because most of the time its a tool for fanservice. Which makes for shallow shows. Which I do not like. I mean the name implies it. "Loli", if it wherent a fanservice only thing, it would be called child. Same with "trap". It would be called crossdressing boy, and would probably be rather a thing in an anime that explores gender insecurity and how it can happen from a young age. That would be interesting to see. "Shota" would be called little boy. Incest and S&M are the only terms that do not imply they are fanservice elements from the getgo. Yet in anime it is used almsot exclusively as such. The problem is that those themes are all used for fanservice rather than to make a decent story. And I am not a prude SJW or anything of the sorts, hell Ive probably fapped to hentai doujinshi of all above mentioned genres more than anyone here. But thats what hentai/doujinshi are for. But in anime I do like a good story and those elements usually are rather detrimental to a good story. Its okay to have fanservice shows but the number of them is just too damn high in anime. The mistake you make is that you focus only on sexual connotation. While that is a major thing and the topic of this thread, my statement is in general. Even if not sexual lolis are often used for moe fanservice or enforcing cuteness. Fanservice comes in many shapes and forms. Sexual fanservice is just one of them and not particularly worse than any others. Hell even little things like character archetypes are fanservice for fans of the particular archetype. And that means that those characters are usually shallow, not going past their archetypes, remain extremely predictable and imo boring. |
baki502Jan 4, 2015 4:31 AM
| I can see that 2015 is the year of weird and horny threads. |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
SweetCoconut said: 2014 wasn't?I can see that 2015 is the year of weird and horny threads. |
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SweetCoconut said: I can see that 2015 is the year of weird and horny threads. This is the year of exposing how weird and horny these threads have been the past years on this website. |
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baki502 said: I don't see what's particularly wrong with emphasizing a certain art style if the substance is still there. It's similar to how Ping Pong uses overly wacky character designs to compliment its abstract manner of storytelling. At that point it's really just preference, in which case I'll point out that not many shows that I chose last season were heavily dependent on it.The mistake you make is that you focus only on sexual connotation. While that is a major thing and the topic of this thread, my statement is in general. Even if not sexual lolis are often used for moe fanservice or enforcing cuteness. Fanservice comes in many shapes and forms. Sexual fanservice is just one of them and not particularly worse than any others. Hell even little things like character archetypes are fanservice for fans of the particular archetype. And that means that those characters are usually shallow, not going past their archetypes, remain extremely predictable and imo boring. As for archetype characters, they have been around for centuries and have been proven to work since despite what many will say, many more are more comfortable with recognizable characters. I too prefer well crafted characters, but anime can't be faulted for its use of stock characters. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Because some people don't like the same things as you do, although I think it is stupid to reject something before you've seen it. i hate incest anime :) i loved koi kaze xD i know, i'm a hypocrite :D ok, those who have seen koi kaze can understand why i liked that show. falling in love with your own sister? that's just weird... (for those who have sisters, will probably understand this haha) |
kickthebucket said: It is pretty weird,I personlly don't see how you can actually fall in love with your sister anyway.Milk_is_Special said: Because some people don't like the same things as you do, although I think it is stupid to reject something before you've seen it. i hate incest anime :) i loved koi kaze xD i know, i'm a hypocrite :D ok, those who have seen koi kaze can understand why i liked that show. falling in love with your own sister? that's just weird... (for those who have sisters, will probably understand this haha) |
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Milk_is_Special said: It's literally made sense of in the 1st episode.kickthebucket said: It is pretty weird,I personlly don't see how you can actually fall in love with your sister anyway.i hate incest anime :) i loved koi kaze xD i know, i'm a hypocrite :D ok, those who have seen koi kaze can understand why i liked that show. falling in love with your own sister? that's just weird... (for those who have sisters, will probably understand this haha) |
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Ratohnhaketon said: I haven't seen the show myself, so I just said what I think of incest myself.Milk_is_Special said: It's literally made sense of in the 1st episode.It is pretty weird,I personlly don't see how you can actually fall in love with your sister anyway. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Although I have no problems with how incest is portrayed in anime, I wish that more shows would take it as seriously as Koi Kaze handles it. It really is one that makes the viewer stop & ask "under these circumstances, is it really so wrong?"I haven't seen the show myself, so I just said what I think of incest myself. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: Milk_is_Special said: Although I have no problems with how incest is portrayed in anime, I wish that more shows would take it as seriously as Koi Kaze handles it. It really is one that makes the viewer stop & ask "under these circumstances, is it really so wrong?"I haven't seen the show myself, so I just said what I think of incest myself. As a pragmatic person I think incest is only wrong if you have unprotected sex. The only logical and factual argument against incest is that sick offspring is born. If you dont have offspring there is no argument against incest left that isnt based on loose and vague morality arguments. Nevertheless, I havent see Koi Kaze, but incest is sadly most often used as a comedic or fanservice factor in anime. Which is alright, it can be funny at times, but any attempts at a serious show gets ruined by immature and fanservicy take on incest. |
baki502 said: As a pragmatic person I think incest is only wrong if you have unprotected sex. The only logical and factual argument against incest is that sick offspring is born. If you dont have offspring there is no argument against incest left that isnt based on loose and vague morality arguments. If I'm not mistaken, you said before you are against any use of the Loli symbol, but not against incest. Well, here's one thing: both are very close. Both are societal standards with a very clear line drawn without much consideration. Pedophilia and Hebephilia always existed, and for the vast majority of the human history it was even legal. Meanwhile, Incest was a rule adopted very early in history to prevent problematic children (which were always despised and, more often than not, disposed of) and most of following civilizations accepted it, although there are known cases from varied points in history and from different civilizations. I think people confuse the kind of love you feel, that's why you would fall in love for a close relative or view a Loli sexually. I personally am against pedophilia and hebephilia and can't help but feel a quite irrational unease when I see people of great age differences in a relationship, but I understand the feeling I myself have for Lolis is nothing more than tenderness, the same non-sexual kind of love you may have for your dog or for your siblings or whatever. I have also a younger sister and can't say I'd ever develop any kind of attraction for her, but I can understand that some people do and I don't find it wrong. |
Ishikami said: baki502 said: As a pragmatic person I think incest is only wrong if you have unprotected sex. The only logical and factual argument against incest is that sick offspring is born. If you dont have offspring there is no argument against incest left that isnt based on loose and vague morality arguments. If I'm not mistaken, you said before you are against any use of the Loli symbol, but not against incest. Well, here's one thing: both are very close. Both are societal standards with a very clear line drawn without much consideration. Pedophilia and Hebephilia always existed, and for the vast majority of the human history it was even legal. Meanwhile, Incest was a rule adopted very early in history to prevent problematic children (which were always despised and, more often than not, disposed of) and most of following civilizations accepted it, although there are known cases from varied points in history and from different civilizations. I think people confuse the kind of love you feel, that's why you would fall in love for a close relative or view a Loli sexually. I personally am against pedophilia and hebephilia and can't help but feel a quite irrational unease when I see people of great age differences in a relationship, but I understand the feeling I myself have for Lolis is nothing more than tenderness, the same non-sexual kind of love you may have for your dog or for your siblings or whatever. I have also a younger sister and can't say I'd ever develop any kind of attraction for her, but I can understand that some people do and I don't find it wrong. I never said anythign against loli from a moral or ethical point of view. No I dont think there is anything wrong at all with loli content. I just dislike the content from a writing perspective, I think more often then not it involves poor writing when anime involves lolis, traps, shotas, incest or S&M. But morally or ethically I have no problem with them existing, they arent real anyway. |
| People are suspicious of things that go against the status quo. People feel a sense of self esteem from people who are less "normal" than them. Though there is more than just that. With BDSM, it's a lot that people see social status in things. When people see statistics saying that men are more likely to fetishize raping, and women are more likely to fetishize being raped, and the rape of women is still a serious problem in society, and men in general have more social power than women, and men are socialized to dominate, all of the rape in hentai is very suspect, to say the least. With lolicon and shotacon, most people don't look past the definition of being children. And don't know or refuse to believe that lolis and shotas can be adults. So it's simply child porn and the sexualization of children to them. And for people who are aware that there are adult lolis and shotas, many of them believe it to be only an excuse. That as long as they have that body type, they are still children. The idea that someone could be attracted a body type like children have, but not want to hurt them or actually want to hurt and have sex with children, is too bizarre and strange and creepy to possibly be true. |
| Here's a better question? Why would somebody watch something knowing full well they'd be disgusted by it? |
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Zergneedsfood said: RedRoseFring said: wuts a preversion :PBecause it's a preversion you preverts! |
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| They probably just a religious extremist who wanted all sex has to be vanilla or just an asexual. In other words irl they would be pretty boring person in terms of sexuality. |
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What is it with people that reject any kind of different sexuality in anime oh, feminist talk! this could be pretty interesting, perhaps not even super retarted (tho it's mal.) (Loli, traps, shota, incest, S&M etc.) ...da fuq did i expect. |
| yangires > yanderes > tsunderes > other deres |
| What if I'm not interested in these kind of anime because I might be ace? Watch whatever you like, who cares |
Zefyris said: KokkoStar said: , or anime like Fate/Stay Night which are adaptations of porn games? Calling FSN a porn game due to 3-4 sex scenes in dozen and dozen of hours of playing would be like calling any novel with a sex scene a pornographic novel. Your ignorance is saddening. Fierce_Deity22 said: Is this the recovery thread for you guys after what happened in the one Journey made LOL I can explain you why this thread was made as it's pretty obvious for anyone who read MAL forums since a while, but I don't think you, in particular, are going to like the explanation. Sometimes ignorance is a bliss; better not think too much about it. Just so you know, FSN does have anal sex in it. I would call that a porn game because its not like some regular love making scene. I actually read that scene out of curiousity and what I found was ridiculous hentai dialogue. I am not against hentai or eroge games, but at least call it what it is. There is no reason for that anal sex scene other than it being part of the eroge genre. Especially if you read the dialogue of the reason why they had buttsex -_-. As for the thread topic, I don't care what others like. As long as it doesn't harm or effect a person in real life. People can like drawn lolis for all I care as long as they aren't going out raping little kids. The only thing I personally think is sick is the ero guro stuff which I have seen out of curiousity and it was utter horror. I don't know how people get off to mutilation and all that fucked up shit unless you have some screws loose. I mean I like some nice BDSM play in the bedroom if its tame and both parties are having fun but not no guro level shit. |
CejaraJul 21, 2016 9:25 AM
| Wait to resurect a dead thread. Cejara said: Zefyris said: Calling FSN a porn game due to 3-4 sex scenes in dozen and dozen of hours of playing would be like calling any novel with a sex scene a pornographic novel. Your ignorance is saddening. I can explain you why this thread was made as it's pretty obvious for anyone who read MAL forums since a while, but I don't think you, in particular, are going to like the explanation. Sometimes ignorance is a bliss; better not think too much about it. Just so you know, FSN does have anal sex in it. I would call that a porn game because its not like some regular love making scene. I actually read that scene out of curiousity and what I found was ridiculous hentai dialogue. I am not against hentai or eroge games, but at least call it what it is. There is no reason for that anal sex scene other than it being part of the eroge genre. Especially if you read the dialogue of the reason why they had buttsex -_-. As for the thread topic, I don't care what others like. As long as it doesn't harm or effect a person in real life. People can like drawn lolis for all I care as long as they aren't going out raping little kids. The only thing I personally think is sick is the ero guro stuff which I have seen out of curiousity and it was utter horror. I don't know how people get off to mutilation and all that fucked up shit unless you have some screws loose. I mean I like some nice BDSM play in the bedroom if its tame and both parties are having fun but not no guro level shit. Ever read novels in your life lol? Like, horror novels, or the like. Not the family-friendly type of novels you give to your children. There's far more intense than just a butt sex scene. And it's not classed at porn novels. |
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Zefyris said: Wait to resurect a dead thread. Cejara said: Just so you know, FSN does have anal sex in it. I would call that a porn game because its not like some regular love making scene. I actually read that scene out of curiousity and what I found was ridiculous hentai dialogue. I am not against hentai or eroge games, but at least call it what it is. There is no reason for that anal sex scene other than it being part of the eroge genre. Especially if you read the dialogue of the reason why they had buttsex -_-. As for the thread topic, I don't care what others like. As long as it doesn't harm or effect a person in real life. People can like drawn lolis for all I care as long as they aren't going out raping little kids. The only thing I personally think is sick is the ero guro stuff which I have seen out of curiousity and it was utter horror. I don't know how people get off to mutilation and all that fucked up shit unless you have some screws loose. I mean I like some nice BDSM play in the bedroom if its tame and both parties are having fun but not no guro level shit. Ever read novels in your life lol? Like, horror novels, or the like. Not the family-friendly type of novels you give to your children. There's far more intense than just a butt sex scene. And it's not classed at porn novels. No, but while we are on the topic of perversion etc, I am a fan of anal scenes. Everything I have seen with anal has been erotic or porn. This scene was definitely an eroge scene there is no denying that, its all intensive purpose was to be erotic and had nothing to do with the story (unless you count him "powering up from fatigue by assfucking Rin part of the story"). I mean I probably won't change your mind either way. I could care less about that, and care less about F/SN being an eroge originally. I enjoyed the anime, and it being based off an eroge doesn't matter to me. I won't change my mind on it being an eroge because it seems obvious that it is, but it seems you don't see it that way, so I won't attempt further. |
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Cejara said: Zefyris said: Wait to resurect a dead thread. Ever read novels in your life lol? Like, horror novels, or the like. Not the family-friendly type of novels you give to your children. There's far more intense than just a butt sex scene. And it's not classed at porn novels. No, but while we are on the topic of perversion etc, I am a fan of anal scenes. Everything I have seen with anal has been erotic or porn. This scene was definitely an eroge scene there is no denying that, its all intensive purpose was to be erotic and had nothing to do with the story (unless you count him "powering up from fatigue by assfucking Rin part of the story"). I mean I probably won't change your mind either way. I could care less about that, and care less about F/SN being an eroge originally. I enjoyed the anime, and it being based off an eroge doesn't matter to me. I won't change my mind on it being an eroge because it seems obvious that it is, but it seems you don't see it that way, so I won't attempt further. Of course a described sex scene is erotic. No one is disputing that. It doesn't make the whole book a porn book, that's as simple as that, and that's the only thing I was saying :). |
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doitagain said: What is it with people that reject any kind of different sexuality in anime oh, feminist talk! this could be pretty interesting, perhaps not even super retarted (tho it's mal.) (Loli, traps, shota, incest, S&M etc.) ...da fuq did i expect. OP was worth it at least for the sig anyway :3 |
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Cejara said: Just so you know, FSN does have anal sex in it. I would call that a porn game because its not like some regular love making scene. I actually read that scene out of curiousity and what I found was ridiculous hentai dialogue. I am not against hentai or eroge games, but at least call it what it is. There is no reason for that anal sex scene other than it being part of the eroge genre. Especially if you read the dialogue of the reason why they had buttsex -_-. I haven't read FSN yet but according to VNDB's profile for Rin Toosaka she doesn't engage in anal sex actually. |
Ecchi_Hater_9000 said: I accept all sexual orientations and even fetishes (as long as it's between two consenting adults). Except lolicon. That's literally short for lolita complex and I think Japanese entertainment, in general, gets away with waaaaaay too much sexualization of prepubescent girls. Yeah same. Lolicon and the guys who are into it are both creepy as fuck, at least to me. |
mistaleJul 21, 2016 9:58 AM
| Because they have different moral values from us who tolerate it, simple as.I mean even I wouldn't beat it to incest bondage yuri gangbang porn(if one with all of this at once exists I'll have faith in the human race again kek). |
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SuperRed said: Cejara said: Just so you know, FSN does have anal sex in it. I would call that a porn game because its not like some regular love making scene. I actually read that scene out of curiousity and what I found was ridiculous hentai dialogue. I am not against hentai or eroge games, but at least call it what it is. There is no reason for that anal sex scene other than it being part of the eroge genre. Especially if you read the dialogue of the reason why they had buttsex -_-. I haven't read FSN yet but according to VNDB's profile for Rin Toosaka she doesn't engage in anal sex actually. I have definitely seen the scene played out and the dialogue. I haven't played the novel as a whole either though. It might be in one of the other routes (UBW or Fate). Don't know which route you looked at but it is definitely there. @Zefyris The whole thing is definitely not a consistent sex scene eroge one after another like others are, as I have watched "playthroughs" of the VN's routes (not throughout entirety though). I think the intent of the creator was to create an eroge just eroge enough to lure eroge fans in, but have a solid story/world building to go along with it. It definitely has eroge elements in it, I personally would consider it an eroge, but compared to other eroges maybe it would be almost like a borderline eroge (since its tamer than others) kind of like KissxSis and B Gata H Kei (although the ecchi is actually done tastefully in this one) can be borderline vanilla hentai even though they are technically ecchi. |
| A lot of prudes and puritans out there who fight in the name of everything "normal", I don't hate those kinda people but I do think that they're wasting their time, banning stuff doesn't make it go away (usually has the opposite effect, making it more extreme). Anyway I'm not attracted to lolis (they don't have dem legs and thighs), but I can't bring myself to think that there's anything morally wrong about it, simply because it's entirely fictional. Most of the people whining about supposed pedophiles on the internet don't care about actual pedophilia, it's hilarious. |
Cejara said: SuperRed said: I haven't read FSN yet but according to VNDB's profile for Rin Toosaka she doesn't engage in anal sex actually. I have definitely seen the scene played out and the dialogue. I haven't played the novel as a whole either though. It might be in one of the other routes (UBW or Fate). Don't know which route you looked at but it is definitely there. @Zefyris The whole thing is definitely not a consistent sex scene eroge one after another like others are, as I have watched "playthroughs" of the VN's routes (not throughout entirety though). I think the intent of the creator was to create an eroge just eroge enough to lure eroge fans in, but have a solid story/world building to go along with it. It definitely has eroge elements in it, I personally would consider it an eroge, but compared to other eroges maybe it would be almost like a borderline eroge (since its tamer than others) kind of like KissxSis and B Gata H Kei (although the ecchi is actually done tastefully in this one) can be borderline vanilla hentai even though they are technically ecchi. It IS an eroge. But that doesn't make it a "porn game". Seriously I'm defending a game I'm not even fan of, right now. >_< |
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FlameWingman21 said: Because those are for otaku, and people of MAL are not otaku enough. Poor souls. Yes! This is the perfect reply. I talked to this person on MAL and they were suuuuper against shotacon. But they've only seen 30 anime... |
  WORK IN PROGRESS ~The frog leapt forth to my lilypad memory.~ I was indoctrinated by an inamorata rabbit, Adenomata affronted. It was the verecund, dismissed creatures That I jubilated in most. This rabbit I would nurture, At the aiguille of esse, The anneal of noblesse. ❤️ Birdie ❤️ |
Zefyris said: Cejara said: I have definitely seen the scene played out and the dialogue. I haven't played the novel as a whole either though. It might be in one of the other routes (UBW or Fate). Don't know which route you looked at but it is definitely there. @Zefyris The whole thing is definitely not a consistent sex scene eroge one after another like others are, as I have watched "playthroughs" of the VN's routes (not throughout entirety though). I think the intent of the creator was to create an eroge just eroge enough to lure eroge fans in, but have a solid story/world building to go along with it. It definitely has eroge elements in it, I personally would consider it an eroge, but compared to other eroges maybe it would be almost like a borderline eroge (since its tamer than others) kind of like KissxSis and B Gata H Kei (although the ecchi is actually done tastefully in this one) can be borderline vanilla hentai even though they are technically ecchi. It IS an eroge. But that doesn't make it a "porn game". Seriously I'm defending a game I'm not even fan of, right now. >_< Oh I get what you're saying now lol. Kind of funny that your defending it and don't like it, that made me laugh in rl for some reason xD. |
| So now fetishes and kinks are called sexualities? Okay... |
 Ｓｗｅｅｔ♥I guess, as long as I have life, all I can do is fight with all my might. |
| -lolicon: disgusting. you do realize that pedophiles are the lowest of scum right? when i was locked up, it was common sense that anyone who hits the pod with child related sexual charges will be killed the moment they leave their cell. -traps: i don't really care. have nothing against gay people. -incest: don't really care. it's weird but.. their not hurting anyone. -S&M: i've nothing against it. what you do with your fuck friend or life partner is between you & them. |
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