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Jun 25, 2014 1:44 PM
#101
DrGeroCreation said: Dark_Chaos said: Shinobu now who are all these lolis with curves. If you can't answer me then don't bother to reply.DrGeroCreation said: Dark_Chaos said: DrGeroCreation said: Dark_Chaos said: I repeat "Also who are all these lolis with curves in anime? I'm talking anime strictly here not hentai."DrGeroCreation said: Dark_Chaos said: Then how do you explain Shiro then? She is sexualized but has no curves. Also who are all these lolis with curves in anime? I'm talking anime strictly here not hentai.LadyRenly said: Dark_Chaos said: Also, thing to note is that lolis are commonly given adult features such as ridiculous curves, breasts, ass, facial features and what have you, and it is those adult features that attract a man (or woman) to them. Some will actually just have an adult body with the height of a child and big eyes to give the illusion of a child, when it looks nothing like one. I thought it was the lack of sexual features that made them attractive? Would it still be loli really if they had adult features? You don't realise it at first, but many lolis in anime have these features, mainly curves. The exceptions are those not intended to be sexualized in any way, like Ushio from Clannad for example. Can't comment on something I haven't seen. Sorry pal. Check my list and find someone from a series I have seen. Hey, hey, you can't make two points and then ignore one of them. That's not how it works, buddy. Who is this loli with no curves, but is sexualized? Seems like you're dodging the question here lad, and I don't appreciate that, not one bit. I haven't seen NGNL though, and I'm not going to spoil myself to win a petty argument with a random stranger on the internet, which is why I asked you to find another one that I know -.- Since you aren't giving me another one, I assume you don't know any others, as there doesn't appear to be any other reason, and you come off as if these specimens are abundant, and if they are not abundant, then you no longer have a case, do you? Haven't seen the Monogatari series either. Come on man, I told you to look at my list. Is that such a hard thing to do? Do you not know one on my list or something? It's not like it's small ya know, I've got over 200 on there, and I often look for series with lolis, so there shouldn't exactly be a shortage of them there. I mean honestly, how am I supposed to take the word of some random person on the internet if I've not seen what they have seen? Come now. |
Jun 25, 2014 1:53 PM
#102
Dark_Chaos said: DrGeroCreation said: Dark_Chaos said: DrGeroCreation said: Dark_Chaos said: DrGeroCreation said: Dark_Chaos said: I repeat "Also who are all these lolis with curves in anime? I'm talking anime strictly here not hentai."DrGeroCreation said: Dark_Chaos said: Then how do you explain Shiro then? She is sexualized but has no curves. Also who are all these lolis with curves in anime? I'm talking anime strictly here not hentai.LadyRenly said: Dark_Chaos said: Also, thing to note is that lolis are commonly given adult features such as ridiculous curves, breasts, ass, facial features and what have you, and it is those adult features that attract a man (or woman) to them. Some will actually just have an adult body with the height of a child and big eyes to give the illusion of a child, when it looks nothing like one. I thought it was the lack of sexual features that made them attractive? Would it still be loli really if they had adult features? You don't realise it at first, but many lolis in anime have these features, mainly curves. The exceptions are those not intended to be sexualized in any way, like Ushio from Clannad for example. Can't comment on something I haven't seen. Sorry pal. Check my list and find someone from a series I have seen. Hey, hey, you can't make two points and then ignore one of them. That's not how it works, buddy. Who is this loli with no curves, but is sexualized? Seems like you're dodging the question here lad, and I don't appreciate that, not one bit. I haven't seen NGNL though, and I'm not going to spoil myself to win a petty argument with a random stranger on the internet, which is why I asked you to find another one that I know -.- Since you aren't giving me another one, I assume you don't know any others, as there doesn't appear to be any other reason, and you come off as if these specimens are abundant, and if they are not abundant, then you no longer have a case, do you? Haven't seen the Monogatari series either. Come on man, I told you to look at my list. Is that such a hard thing to do? Do you not know one on my list or something? It's not like it's small ya know, I've got over 200 on there, and I often look for series with lolis, so there shouldn't exactly be a shortage of them there. I mean honestly, how am I supposed to take the word of some random person on the internet if I've not seen what they have seen? Come now. |
Jun 25, 2014 2:14 PM
#103
(The textwall ahead is mostly about lolis in hentai) If you're a damn paedophile, the first thing you should do is keep it for yourself for fucksake, having a list full of loli shows and lolis as favorite characters will only, and only tell me that you truly like little girls, so , you're here with the excuse of "heey its virtual, not real" (sarcasm ahead) "Of course darling, You tell me you like loli shows and you are such a good reviewer for those shows that you give low rates to them if they miss a oni-chan while the little girl is being fucked in the ass... Of course you're not a paedophile, how stupid of me to think that, your behaviour its just what we need for being a kindergarten teacher ^^ " But hey, its not real...of course its not real, Sherlock!! But you're sexual desires are very real, and the fap fap while watching some little girls doing hell knows what its real as your right hand. You're telling me that a loli lover would'nt do something like that in real lifel if he had the chance? Don't make me laugh, there could be exceptions who knows but I wouldn't take the risk of dealing with such a guy, so do a favor to the rest of the society, if you like that KEEP IT FOR YOURSELF, its for your own good. And leaving lolis aside, paedophilia isn't something to take it easy, its a huge problem and kids who were abused and had bad experiences related with pedobears tend to have some big issuess with their lifes in the future, some really big problems just google for more information and see for yourself that's not something to be laughing of nor taking it easy. |
Jun 25, 2014 2:22 PM
#104
People who enjoy these genres watch/read them for different reasons; 1. they're pedos and they're attracted to children 2. they're attracted to child like behaviours/characteristics (so maybe you just like petite people, or dwarves, or naive simple minded people) 3. they see themselves as the shota or loli and like the relationship which has been established 4. They like being in total control 5. They like being totally controlled/subdued/overpowered 6. they're curious to see what it's about. I fall in the 3rd and fifth category of this so I read these mangas not because I'm attracted to children but because I see myself as somewhat "child-like" and I have a sexual fetish of being subdued/overpowered.... so yeah..... (sidenote: but I only read shotacon mangas because I find viewing graphic straight content to be disgusting for some weird reason but BL stuff I find soo incredibly cute :3, I don't know why but I just do) |
KiraieAeternaJun 25, 2014 2:26 PM
Jun 25, 2014 3:15 PM
#105
Yamikaze said: You're telling me that a loli lover would'nt do something like that in real lifel if he had the chance? Don't make me laugh You're telling me that a GTA player wouldn't crush pedestrians and shot cops in head if he had the chance? Don't make me laugh |
Jun 25, 2014 3:39 PM
#106
Ya so what? As long as u watch or look at real life children in such way, its fine. |
Jun 25, 2014 3:52 PM
#107
KiraieAeterna said: People who enjoy these genres watch/read them for different reasons; 1. they're pedos and they're attracted to children 2. they're attracted to child like behaviours/characteristics (so maybe you just like petite people, or dwarves, or naive simple minded people) 3. they see themselves as the shota or loli and like the relationship which has been established 4. They like being in total control 5. They like being totally controlled/subdued/overpowered 6. they're curious to see what it's about. 1. Only a small minority view loli because they are already a pedophile. 2. This makes up over 90% of people viewing loli, for example I like very shy females, and shy females are underrepresented in all but lolis. I also like really petite females as well. 3. I hear about this so much, who wouldn't want to be the shota or loli in the relationship. 4. I don't hear about loli lovers just viewing to satisfy their sense of control very much at least in the Western community. 5. There are lots of Ms in the shota and loli community 6. The old Boku no Pico recommendation trap. I'll add 7. They want an ideal little brother or sister (often for incest). |
Jun 25, 2014 4:13 PM
#108
d445 said: Yamikaze said: You're telling me that a loli lover would'nt do something like that in real lifel if he had the chance? Don't make me laugh You're telling me that a GTA player wouldn't crush pedestrians and shot cops in head if he had the chance? Don't make me laugh Are you actually comparing apples with pears, better said ARE YOU USING A RULE OF THREE ON THIS SUBJECT? XDDD ?? What are the probabilities of a 14 years old kid to actually "crush pedestrians and shot cops in head" in real life in comparison with a full grown paedophile to abuse of a innocent child ? |
Jun 25, 2014 4:14 PM
#109
As long as you have a good lawyer nothing else matters |
Jun 25, 2014 4:16 PM
#110
bash107 said: So true.As long as you have a good lawyer nothing else matters |
Jun 25, 2014 10:02 PM
#111
It determines the art style. They do not really look like real humans in most styles so many just like the cuteness or have a thing for certain body types. They are only pedophiliacs if they are indeed attracted sexually to prepubecents, as in real ones. A pedophile is someone who actively acts on those desires in a predatory nature. |
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Jun 25, 2014 11:01 PM
#112
Hoppy said: Is liking bara yaoi sorta gay? ''No, because it's completely fictional, and no one had their colon savaged''.No, it's not Reason: Completely fictional and no one was harmed in the making of the works. Love your reasoning there *facepalm*. What the fuck does it matter if anyone got hurt? cabacc2 said: But fingering yourself while fapping to yaoi always makes you a faggot. Have fun trying to deny that one without making yourself look guilty.you can like loli porn without being sexually attracted to children IRL. You can like yaoi without liking gay-3D-porn. Thats also a fact. |
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Jun 25, 2014 11:07 PM
#114
I don't think it is? |
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Jun 25, 2014 11:37 PM
#115
Okay. Slightly more serious answer. If a male watched a shit load of gay porn, I don't think it wouldn't be a huge stretch to say that he has homosexual tendencies. Well, if you're watching animated kiddy porn... |
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Jun 26, 2014 3:12 AM
#116
"liking lolicon" So... are you a pedo for liking someone that likes lolis? Um... no? |
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Jun 26, 2014 3:18 AM
#117
Lol i love the lolicon/shotacon fanboys that pretend that they are not pedophiles and that they are normal human begins. Fucking pathetic. Just be honest with you sick sexuality like me. |
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Jun 26, 2014 4:28 AM
#119
Rakaxo said: I think one of the reasons these threads always become so heated is that the ones who claim they are the same thing are the ones that aren't lolicons themselves, in other words the ones who are just announcing their beliefs without actually knowing. On the other hand the ones who actually are self-proclaimed lolicons can without a doubt say the logic is wrong as they are living evidences themselves and therefore just feel offended when people are slandering them with no evidence to support it.Lol i love the lolicon/shotacon fanboys that pretend that they are not pedophiles and that they are normal human begins. Fucking pathetic. Just be honest with you sick sexuality like me. |
Jun 26, 2014 4:34 AM
#120
Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
Jun 26, 2014 5:56 AM
#121
Rakaxo said: Lol i love the lolicon/shotacon fanboys that pretend that they are not pedophiles and that they are normal human begins. Fucking pathetic. Just be honest with you sick sexuality like me. im "pedo" (i found young girl attractive same as older girl; as any normal men if be honest) and im ok with that lol. and im normal human, ok? i know i never harm what i like. |
Jun 26, 2014 6:20 AM
#122
d445 said: like how young? 15-17 young or younger?Rakaxo said: Lol i love the lolicon/shotacon fanboys that pretend that they are not pedophiles and that they are normal human begins. Fucking pathetic. Just be honest with you sick sexuality like me. im "pedo" (i found young girl attractive same as older girl; as any normal men if be honest) and im ok with that lol. and im normal human, ok? i know i never harm what i like. |
Jun 26, 2014 6:40 AM
#123
animeoppai said: d445 said: like how young? 15-17 young or younger?Rakaxo said: Lol i love the lolicon/shotacon fanboys that pretend that they are not pedophiles and that they are normal human begins. Fucking pathetic. Just be honest with you sick sexuality like me. im "pedo" (i found young girl attractive same as older girl; as any normal men if be honest) and im ok with that lol. and im normal human, ok? i know i never harm what i like. I hope so... he better not be saying that he finds a 6 year as attractive as a 19 year old. |
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Jun 26, 2014 6:41 AM
#124
Hulmy said: well a 15 year old and a 20 year old can look the same way even in reality, even if that stretch doesn't go as far down as like elementary school age the way it's done in animeanimeoppai said: d445 said: Rakaxo said: Lol i love the lolicon/shotacon fanboys that pretend that they are not pedophiles and that they are normal human begins. Fucking pathetic. Just be honest with you sick sexuality like me. im "pedo" (i found young girl attractive same as older girl; as any normal men if be honest) and im ok with that lol. and im normal human, ok? i know i never harm what i like. I hope so... he better not be saying that he finds a 6 year as attractive as a 19 year old. |
Jun 26, 2014 7:07 AM
#125
It could be subjective. While anime characters are depictions of people they don't really resemble them. It could depend on ones mindset when jerking off to loli hentai. Whether they like them because they're depictions of little girls/boys or solely because of appearance. idk I'm just writing shit down. bash107 said: As long as you have a good lawyer nothing else matters Genius. |
Jun 26, 2014 7:21 AM
#126
MasterGlyth said: It could be subjective. While anime characters are depictions of people they don't really resemble them. It could depend on ones mindset when jerking off to loli hentai. Whether they like them because they're depictions of little girls/boys or solely because of appearance. idk I'm just writing shit down. bash107 said: As long as you have a good lawyer nothing else matters Genius. No, it's not just shit you're writing down. I was pretty much saying the same thing earlier, with how lolis don't resemble actual children whether it be due to adult features, disproportionate features or something else. |
Jun 26, 2014 7:23 AM
#127
Hulmy said: animeoppai said: like how young? 15-17 young or younger? I hope so... he better not be saying that he finds a 6 year as attractive as a 19 year old. i found it funny, when someone think that liking 12yo girl in age of 12 it's normal, but in age of 30 that feeling turned into disgusting illness. i can understand why underage sex was banned in modern society, but it is not for "all pedos are monsters, all children are victims" for sure. this is only weak social construct for dummies. |
Jun 26, 2014 7:25 AM
#128
Dark_Chaos said: MasterGlyth said: It could be subjective. While anime characters are depictions of people they don't really resemble them. It could depend on ones mindset when jerking off to loli hentai. Whether they like them because they're depictions of little girls/boys or solely because of appearance. idk I'm just writing shit down. bash107 said: As long as you have a good lawyer nothing else matters Genius. No, it's not just shit you're writing down. I was pretty much saying the same thing earlier, with how lolis don't resemble actual children whether it be due to adult features, disproportionate features or something else. I didn't see it. In that case you have a good head on your shoulders. |
Jun 26, 2014 8:06 AM
#129
Sapewloth said: hahahahaha, Just DIED!! |
Jun 26, 2014 8:24 AM
#130
ApotheosisTheory said: Okay. Slightly more serious answer. If a male watched a shit load of gay porn, I don't think it wouldn't be a huge stretch to say that he has homosexual tendencies. Well, if you're watching animated kiddy porn... Why is it so hard for people to figure out that fantasy and reality aren't the same thing? I've seen super-realistic pictures of 'children' having sex, very hard to determine from the real thing (CGI has come really far these days), yet they proved to be quite the turn-off for me. Reason is because it was so hard to tell the difference from a real-life photo. I found those pics incredibly creepy. I can't imagine it to be any different with an actual photo of a child getting raped. Also, by that reasoning, 1. Necrophilia makes me want to fuck real corpses, 2. Liking gore means I'm a homicidal maniac, 3. Liking torture pics makes me want to torture people in real life, Right? |
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Jun 26, 2014 11:31 AM
#131
A7MAD111 said: animeoppai said: |
Jun 26, 2014 8:49 PM
#132
Sapewloth said: Is it bad that I get a heart attack for a moment when I see his face? |
Jul 4, 2014 12:37 AM
#133
I wonder why this ominous, fearful discussion is open but all normal discussion threads about lolicon are locked. The answer is "potentially" and "depends on behaviour". But that is not interesting in itself. I got into lolicon when was in my teens, and while at first it was equal with normal hetero stuff, it increasingly got dominant. I still like beautiful women my age, I can even find them incredibly hot, but somehow I find it difficult to get hot on them. This surely is an uncomfortable situaton to be in and marks pretty much everything in life, which other lolicons don't seem to get. I don't like loli anime, I don't even like most normal anime, but I like some girls or drawings. I find most people's attitudes towards it ridiculous. First of all, the "cute girl" thing is present almost anywhere, and you certainly can't prescribe to others that they have to find "cute" less sexy than non-cute maturity (still talking about normal hetero stuff). And some people mistake their "moral" impulse with simple personal taste. When heteros think of homo sex (even the same genitals), they usually find it disgusting and even grotesque. But society has come to take a relaxed attitude towars it. And of course there is a lot of disgusting "normal" stuff out there as well. And even "crossing borders" is built into sex itself to some extent. So I dont think that judging it from an aestehtic point of view is necessarily a moral argument. ButI do find a lot of it ugly and stupid, as most things anime, or porn... |
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Jul 4, 2014 12:39 AM
#134
Short answer: Yes Long Answer: Somewhat, but in reality everyone has bad or unnecessary urges. It is how you express them that defines you. Any adult male who says he doesnt find young (not children, but young teens) girls attractive is a lying idiot. Part of being a decent person is not indulging in your base primal urges. |
Jul 4, 2014 12:40 AM
#135
SolviteSekai said: Short answer: Yes Long Answer: Somewhat, but in reality everyone has bad or unnecessary urges. It is how you express them that defines you. Any adult male who says he doesnt find young (not children, but young teens) girls attractive is a lying idiot. Part of being a decent person is not indulging in your base primal urges. This guy knows. |
Jul 4, 2014 12:57 AM
#136
It is.... I don't watch it. |
Jul 4, 2014 9:36 AM
#137
SolviteSekai said: Part of being a decent person is not indulging in your base primal urges. Raise that argument for many other issues and see the s***storm that will ensue. Edit: The way society is going, it seems that having any sort of urge whatsoever is excuse to indulge in it. |
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Jul 4, 2014 1:45 PM
#138
I find it disturbing and disgusting frankly. I have such hate filled resentment in my heart for the artists who partake in the creation of it and those who enjoy looking at it. However, they are drawings and not real children. ( Though some would argue that it encourages the sexual assault of children) Japan banned the creation, sale and distribution of child pornography around 1998 1999 which wasn't too long ago at all. However, just 3 or so weeks ago they banned the possession of child pornography without the intent to sell or distribute. Now, although none of this puts bans on loli and shota, you have to make the connection that the only reason loli and shota are still prevalent in Japan is because there is a real pedophilia subculture that was still pretty much legal just 3 weeks ago. Plus the population in Japan that grew up before 1998-1999 where it was still totally legal to be a pedophile needed another way to express themselves and so loli and shota became the main thing to turn to. So yeah, the whole thing just sickens me. |
Jul 5, 2014 2:22 AM
#139
Of course not. Liking lolicon doesn't make you a pedo. Kind of like how I masturbate to nothing but gay porn but I'm still completely straight. |
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Jul 6, 2014 11:46 PM
#140
If you are a grown ass man then probably so.... |
Jul 7, 2014 3:19 PM
#142
In my opinion it isn't... it's a shame that society is extremely judgemental nowdays in regards to everything that is believed to be paedophilic |
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Jul 7, 2014 3:24 PM
#144
for me it is, so yes. that is to say when one likes it "obsessively" and in a sexual way. |
Jul 7, 2014 3:35 PM
#145
The only reason it's considered wrong is because, as a society our morals have changed to consider it wrong to engage in sexual activities with pre-pubescent girls and boys... Throughout history you'd probably find evidence of having sex with young girls around 7-10 perfectly fine since it was considered normal at the time. due to this I feel that it isn't 'sick' or 'paedo-ish' as it's believed to be |
IRC- LoliGod |
Jul 7, 2014 4:57 PM
#146
Well if the look of little girls turns you on then that means you have pretty questionable morals...as long as you don't act on them though I don't see too much of a problem, it just freaks me out a bit. Finding them cute is ok though, even if it's a bit weird if you're an older male... |
Jul 7, 2014 5:26 PM
#147
Jul 7, 2014 5:53 PM
#148
Liking lolis and shotacons is not even remotely pedo and those who think otherwise have absolutely no idea how fetishes work. Underage anime characters and real life children look nothing alike and each of them have their own different attractive points that makes any correlation sketchy. A pedo might or might not like loli and a lolicon vice versa. Loli is love. Loli is life. |
Jul 8, 2014 9:26 AM
#149
I like lolis, but I seriously have no interests in actual little girls. They are loud, annoying and they always seem to have a weird smell around them. |
Jul 8, 2014 9:31 AM
#150
Anyone who gets aroused from watching cartoon kids or real kids has a problem. Same goes to what ever studio decided it was alright to animate the kids getting fondled by older people. That's just common sense. |
I've been here way too long... |
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