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Apr 23, 2011 8:57 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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2 hours late is better than never I suppose.


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Apr 23, 2011 10:18 PM
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Loved this episode. Poor Luffy almost eaten by crocodile.

Can't wait for the next episode.

Apr 24, 2011 2:34 AM
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lmao at Sabo's conversation with Dadan XDDDD
that was hilarious..

next episode's gonna be more interesting
Apr 24, 2011 2:49 AM
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this ep was pretty boring lot of fillers still 1-2 ep before the real important part of this arc starts.
Apr 24, 2011 2:54 AM
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It was good episode but the next one is Sabo's arc, I think. I'm sure he's from rich family.
Apr 24, 2011 3:45 AM
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here hopes the flashback ends right on ep 500.
Apr 24, 2011 4:02 AM
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Sabo got slapped by someone? his mom? wonder what made sabo become the person he is today D:

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Apr 24, 2011 7:14 AM
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And here I thought it wasn't happening this week.
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Apr 24, 2011 10:35 AM
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flame_master_14 said:
And here I thought it wasn't happening this week.


I was thinking the exact same thing! I was waiting for the new episode to come out yesterday but there was a delay, thank god it came out this morning. I expect it to be a mere 1-3 episodes till the flashback ends. Everything thats happened up to this point truely proves Oda is a genius. Its good to see this emotional side of Luffy,in my opinion everything thats happened since Water 7 up to now has been preparing us for the events taking place.

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Apr 24, 2011 11:27 AM

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this past filler makes me sadder about aces death
Apr 24, 2011 2:11 PM

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It was a decent episode. A lot is going to happen soon.
I'm curious on how the mountain bandits make a living, surely they can't rely just on Ace.
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Apr 24, 2011 5:01 PM

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Curious of whats to come.
Apr 24, 2011 6:16 PM

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Divinations said:
It was a decent episode. A lot is going to happen soon.
I'm curious on how the mountain bandits make a living, surely they can't rely just on Ace.


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Apr 24, 2011 10:15 PM

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Interesting.
Apr 25, 2011 6:29 AM

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I guess they're slowing the pace for the flashback which is ok I guess.
Apr 25, 2011 10:49 AM

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bskbob said:
this ep was pretty boring lot of fillers still 1-2 ep before the real important part of this arc starts.

Agreed. I was hoping that it wasn't going to be this slow. There was no need for the fillers, but whatever.
Want to see the next episode.
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Apr 25, 2011 12:42 PM

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^what fillers ? you where talking about sabo/ace playing with luffy like football? xD
well the part itself was ok.. if i wasn't a manga reader i couldn't notice that it was filler
Apr 25, 2011 8:35 PM
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This was really cute, but I really don't want it to become it's own arc :(

Also, is One Piece on hold? Or is it just that this is the latest episode, and was only released recently?
Apr 26, 2011 1:09 AM

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uhhh thanks for the spolier ¬_¬
freshy1993 said:
It was good episode but the next one is Sabo's arc, I think. I'm sure he's from rich family.
Apr 26, 2011 5:06 AM

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This is a flashback not a filler.
Apr 27, 2011 9:21 AM

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I'm enjoying these episodes. :)
Apr 27, 2011 12:04 PM
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It was a pretty good episode. I was hoping they would add little stuff that wasn't added in the manga and I got my wish. Can't wait for the next episode.
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Apr 27, 2011 8:00 PM

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I've got the feeling that I'm going to want to hit someone after the next episode, if I remember what's going to happen correctly.
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Apr 27, 2011 10:21 PM
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I'm so addicted to the opening song right now. Anyway, great episode.






Apr 28, 2011 11:53 PM

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I just recently reread this part of the Manga. God the next few episodes will be great.
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Apr 29, 2011 6:42 PM
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I've got the feeling that I'm going to want to hit someone after the next episode, if I remember what's going to happen correctly.
Oh thanks, as if the wait needed to be any more suspenseful! Eeeeeee! ^_^

These episodes are good :D Not sure about you guys, but I'm even getting a bit of the "One Piece feeling", which hasn't happened much since the crew split up.
May 4, 2011 7:28 PM

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They look like a big happy family now XD
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Aug 26, 2011 6:32 PM

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Yea! Luffy finally has friends! :-) These childhood flashback are great! Clearly, Luffy had fun while growing up with Ace and newly known new brother/friend; Sabo.. I'm still curious as how Sabo will play in this storyline.. and also excited to see where he is currently in the Grand Line! hehe :-D
Sep 8, 2011 9:09 PM

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Yeah, this is pretty awesome. This is probably already one of my favorite back stories.
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Sep 27, 2011 10:02 PM

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the scene where luffy tells ace that he was lonely made me tear up.
Dec 15, 2011 2:50 PM

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This was like a slice of One Piece life, back in days when Luffy was still a child. The thing about these episodes is that they are entertaining and heartfelt, keep em coming.
Feb 6, 2012 6:30 AM

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"being lonely is more painful than being hurt."
BAWWWWW LUFFY
Jul 31, 2012 3:04 AM

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these episodes are good to draw attention away from luffy and ace at marineford
omahgod luffy is so damn cute ^^
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I forgot what I was going to say lol

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Jan 13, 2014 12:09 PM

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Luffy said he only had one brother. Does that mean Sabo is dead? Or maybe he just doesn't consider him a brother...
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Momotaros said:
the scene where luffy tells ace that he was lonely made me tear up.
yeah me too... It was a great scene.... snif, snif....
I loved the scene when Dadan found out Sabo XD
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Great flashbacks ^_^
Oct 15, 2014 2:21 AM

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Sabo joins the crew.
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Jun 20, 2015 6:35 AM

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Ninah said:
"being lonely is more painful than being hurt."
BAWWWWW LUFFY
Jul 29, 2016 8:46 AM

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Aww nice to see Luffy and Ace's relationship start to improve here
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Jun 22, 2017 12:57 PM
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Sabo's conversation with Dadan was awsome xD


Jan 15, 2018 6:57 PM

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Sabo is great, but how come we haven't seen anything from him up to this point in the anime, he being this integral to Luffy and Ace's childhood?
May 18, 2018 5:32 PM

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development with Ace and Luffy is so cute

Momotaros said:
the scene where luffy tells ace that he was lonely made me tear up.


same ; w ;

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May 18, 2019 3:52 AM

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This backstory seems to be adapted quite amazingly. The recap is tiny, the art and animation consistently great and it seems they continually adapt 1.5 chapters per episode? Like, I have not a single nitpick with these adaptation wise! It's crazy in a good way.

The big thing in the first half of the episode that I noticed was that it was amazing characterization for Luffy. This was done in two ways. He may have become less of a crybaby going forward but more than just loving his nakama and wanting to be Shanks a line he said this episode came off incredibly powerful. Ace said isn't it better to live than to die even if you're lonely, and even when he lacked strength he responded with the line:
  • "Being lonely is more painful than getting hurt."
I haven't looked at Luffy like that before, and I never saw it quite that way. He like Ace was alone in the world, he wasn't hated, perhaps he may have been if the father he was born to was well known, and he had no one but Garp. He loves his friends and even back in Arlong arc he said without them he was nothing, but that comes from a place of prioritizing friendship over his own life due to loneliness being more painful than being hurt. This doesn't change my understanding of Luffy's actions but it adds onto them in a meaningful way. Marineford made me see Luffy like a kid who couldn't deal with loss, where Jimbei and Whitebeard understood loss is inevitable, Luffy ran in time and time again fighting like an ant in a storm until he was blown away. Even back to Magellan where he practically suicided if not for Ivan. He appeared to me like a child which had absolute ideals he couldn't accept failing at times. It's why I think his arc will be one of understanding that he can fight with his all and live to his fullest but that alone won't make things work out for the better! So, I already saw his admirable side come off as childish, but now understanding the core of why Luffy fights so strong is to avoid being alone, to cherish his friends to avoid that pain, a belief he had even as a 7 year, it makes him appear even more childish. Not in a bad way, but in a impactful way. I love Luffy, 500 episodes down the line my understanding of him deepens.

The other bit of Luffy characterization that stood out to me was Luffy's fear. As a kid he had two major conflicting values. The desire to live and not be hurt, and the desire to have friends and not be lonely. Of course even as a child he prioritized friendship over his own well being, like he does now by willingly sacrificing tons of years of his life for his friends. Yet, now he doesn't show fear, at least when he does he's doing it because he's mimicking those around him like Buggy or Mr.3. He can smile in a guillotine and he can face imminent death with a strong resolve. The only time he cries in the current time line is when he loses a friend, which goes back to the last paragraph, or in other words when his impossible ideals start to shatter(Merry, Usopp, Ace). This is the Luffy we know, and this Luffy does not hold a desire to live that battles with his desire to fight for his friends, he does punch a Celestial Dragon and fight 3 of the strongest men in the world at once without a second thought and without a sign of fear. So I wondered, when did Luffy gain that conviction which left behind his tears for his own sake and his own life and his conflicting desire to live. And, I may be wrong, but if we look at Ace he is willing to recklessly fight to the death without showing fear for his own life akin to how Luffy ended up. So I think perhaps Luffy learned how to live to his fullest and casually state phrases like"everyone dies sometime" before risking his life through a mix of having role models like Shanks, and Ace, as well as habituation through trying to act that way...

I also adore the natural progression of this friendship. Sabo and Ace are in a world where they feel they need to be strong and on their own but when they saw the blood Luffy split for their own sake they ended up warming up to him a little and letting him tag along with them. Their dynamic really feels like 2 big brothers picking on their youngest brother, especially in scenes like when Sabo and Ace bully him and kick him like a soccer ball. Which only furthers that feeling because even if they bully him they love him and will risk their lives for him, as they did with the Crocodile and Porchemy. It feels so real and sweet and it's going to make the loss of Ace and Luffy's pain feel even more real. The dynamic of 13 year old Ace and 7 year old Luffy fighting and 10 year Sabo acting like the reasonable adult of the group is nice too.

Sabo is quite interesting. I am excited to see more of him and the natural way he moved in with the Dadan family is wonderful. The more I see the Dadan family the more I like them. They remind me of Tetra's pirate crew in Zelda: The Wind Waker. They may appear as bad people but they're really just a bunch of good hearted idiots. Kind of similar to how Sabo and Ace put up bad boy appearances at first before it obviously cracks. That said, Sabo isn't seen anymore in the current time line. We only heard about him as Ace was dying, and that makes me fear for how this backstory can turn out. With the Bluejam pirates hunting our three boys and even killing one of their own in cold blood and Sabo not playing a huge role in the story up until now, it's like, this could be bad. Mostly every backstory outside of Luffy's ended in tragedy and I think it's cool we get to see Luffy deal with the tragedy characters like Zoro did as a kid, or like Brook did when he lost his crew but in real time. Yet, this backstory arc could still get pretty dark with how it already started to with the death of Porchemy and Bluejam's crew swarming the areas...
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Luffy might be struggling to keep up with the two since he's not as experienced as they are but he definitely fits in with the group. I'm glad that he's happy. Dadan having a soft spot for kids was also rather amusing too.

Bluejam will definitely stir up trouble soon but they'll manage.








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These adorable babies are so precious. <3
Mar 8, 2023 11:03 AM
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bruh... kid luffy just wanting friends makes my heart melt.
Jun 22, 2023 12:38 AM
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Dadan be like: another one? GOD PLEASE HELP!! 🤣

I really hope Sabo didn't die, i want to see him at the present time.
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You can see a lot of Luffy’s character actually came from his childhood. He was surrounded by stubborn people so he became stubborn himself, he was surrounded by bad liars so he became a bad liar himself. A question I have though is what happened to Sabo he was supposed to set sail with Ace yet I’ve not seen him.
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luffy was adorable!
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