Vigilante: Boku no Hero Academia Illegals Episode 8 Discussion

God, do they really have to do my Country like this? LOL Then again, look who our President is. Might be some truth in it. Still hurts though. This guy is major A annoying. Only cares about how he looks on Camera.
Glad that our Senpai is MUCH smarter than she looked. I forgot that she was the daughter of that detective. She was setting a trap for this jerk all along. Makoto has even talked to his Wife! ROFLMAO
Oh no! MOM is here. Well, I can see where next week is going!

@Sheol01 She's not Tsukauchi daughter. She's his younger sister

wonder if Pop design still bothers someone else? Like, if they wanted to make it more decent they should have modified more. She just looks so bad.

Can't help but laugh at Captain Celebrity. Obviously his name pairs perfectly with his fake personality and persona. Makes me wonder who the real Number 1 hero in America is? I think it may be too soon for Star and Stripes.

Wow. Koichi has gotten really fast. Was that villain he was chasing Reed Richards? Lmao.

Captain Celebrity? More like Captain Cunt. Dude was really annoying. But ngl he was also decently entertaining. Doesn't surprise me that he was America's top hero. Ig this was before Star became a hero, or was still early in her career.

We got Godzilla as a villain now. Amazing. That buffoon really cares about his image more than lives. I know one person who wouldn't be very happy about this guy being in Japan. That person being Stain.

There was no way Makoto would go on a date with a piece of shit like C.C. Obviously she had a reason for doing that. And the reason was great lmao. Now C.C. can rebrand without pissing off his wife. I wonder if that's the beginning of his downfall as America's no. 1 hero. Great episode.

That lengthy post-credits scene was unexpected. The premise of the next episode sounds very fun. I can't wait!

Narcissist American hero came to Japan to run away from his problem but got life re-branding experience instead, Cool.
More importantly, a set up for the development of Koichi and Kazuho relationship! Now this is the real highlight.

I think it's quite clever that they said he's one of top 10 heroes, and not explicitly said where his rank is. Considered how he debut much earlier than Star And Stripe, I think it's a good Idea to do that.

@KingBaller06

Again, the Japanese public's perception is irrelevant to this conversation. They see him as a great hero from the birthplace of heroes. In fact, the Japanese media do not reference him as the number one hero in the US once in the episode. I can confirm this after rewatching the episode. The only two instances that refer to him as the top hero is CC himself, and the English video introducing him. But again, he is no longer working in the US, so my question stands, who is the new number one hero? His powers are impressive, if not a little generic. So I don't deny the idea of him being number one at one point, or multiple points in time. But his entire persona and hero name are a joke on the celebrity culture of America, which is both manufactured and self-obsessed. And because of his playboy antics, it has landed him in hot water, requiring him to leave the US for work. Meaning he is no longer a hero in the US, but now a hero in Japan.




Boy, nothing like refuting your own points. There's no evidence that he has not lost the trust of the American public either. Regardless, he believed the best decision for himself was to go to another country for work. As stated by Knuckleduster, it's likely he could no longer find any because of his antics. This would then prove the idea that he is no longer liked or accepted by either the American government, people, or possibly even both.


It is specifically stated by the media here:


It is also mentioned by Makoto here:


She also encourages his rebranding effort here:


He specifically left America due to his scandals. His scandals and lawsuits are well documented in the American media as shown here:


It is given further context by Knuckleduster here, where he specifically lines out that "they" meaning the media and America call him a Catastrophe, leaning to the idea that he is a problematic hero, meaning this is not speculation, but a fact:





And he specifically mentions an on-going lawsuit with his wife:


Proof that it is on-going is a quote from his wife by Makoto here:


This again proves that due to his problems from lawsuits and scandals, he's moved elsewhere to find work.


The original point to this whole can of worms you decided to open was my question, who is the real number one hero now that CC has left America to work elsewhere? When he leaves, someone takes his place. That would've been whoever number 2 was. I don't care about the specifics regarding the stupid contest. My entire question was a lore based one. I'm interested in the American heroes before Star and Stripe came to power. The Endeavor point leans directly in what I was saying. When the number one hero was taken out, Endeavor, the number 2 hero took his place. In this case, the supposed number one hero left for another country, as proven by my first screenshot. And that entire situation was very specific, as the country was under attack from All For One and society was beginning to crumble. So people relied on the next strongest hero to protect them.


I've now refuted all of your points with screenshots directly from the anime. My argument is not only superior, but also backed up with direct evidence from the series. Like I said, I'll keep this going but man this is getting embarrassing for you. Hope you're in for the long haul.

@takkun_


The English video was likely made recently (it's released along with his announcement of going to Japan), and the video directly states he is AMERICA'S TOP RANKED HERO. That means he is number one, not two, three, four, five, or ten. ONE. And there's no reason for him to lie about this because if he did (since this is on the Internet), somebody would immediately debunk the claim.



All that means is that in terms of Japan, he doesn't have a reputation. This does not indicate that he's no longer an American hero. As far as we know, he's still registered as a hero in the U.S., but simply living in Japan for the timebeing.





I didn't ask for his life story as it's already established in the episode itself, so that's completely irrelevant here.



I haven't refuted any of my points. The video itself shows the public has a positive opinion of him, which is why he's introduced as the Number One Hero. If his reputation were so bad that his lost that rank, this introduction video couldn't be possible.


Captain Celebrity.



No. My point still stands because you have failed to prove that he's now a Japanese hero rather than an American one. Also it's sad that you have to prop yourself up by trying to frame this as if you're winning here.

By the way, I wasn't able to see the first screenshot. Both on my laptop here and my phone it doesn't load.



He became Number One in Season 4, before AFO attacked and after All Might defeated him and prior to that he was 2nd as you mentioned. He has always had a reputation for being a hot head and chances are the public knows about his wrongdoings. Also as Hawks mentioned based on popularity Endeavor isn't the Number One hero at the time.

Knuckleduster didn't indicate anything about CC not being able to do hero work in the U.S.

This was stated to directly refute your claim that the Japanese media specifically said number one hero. They did not. He has now left America, therefore he is not the number one hero if he is now working in Japan.



How convenient, the one screenshot that disproves your entire argument doesn't load, but the others, uploaded to the same source, work just fine? Yep, we're reaching the end of the conversation here. I'll be a pal and upload the screenshot to an entirely different source. Like the last pictures, I tested them in the preview section of the reply box and they display fine. No wiggling your way out of this one.




You just confirmed what I said earlier, Japan knows nothing about him other than he's a famous hero. But again, his reputation in Japan is irrelevant. You also have no proof that he is still registered in the US. I have proof that a well informed member of the press, Makoto, is acknowledging he specifically came to Japan for a new start. Yet another point you cannot refute.


Of course it's relevant? There's a reason he left the US. I specifically site it and provide examples from the episode to give a reason WHY he left the US to begin with. It has complete relevance to the topic at hand.


Incorrect. We can confirm in the screenshots from the episode he has left the US to work as a hero in Japan going foward. He is no longer eligible to be the top hero in the US. Again, my original question is who was the person that took his place after he left? You got angry at that statement, and here we are.


Incorrect, see first screenshot above. The Japanese media specifically report he has now begun working as a hero in Tokyo. Makoto then reaffirms this later in the episode.


Knuckleduster specifically says that it is likely that he left the US for Japan to find work due to his on-going lawsuits and scandals. This is due to Knuckleduster doing what is called "critical thinking".

It's funny, this is easier as time goes on. Those screenshots really do help, huh?

@takkun_

I don't like that you're implying that I was lying about not being able to see the screenshot. I'm not that kind of guy, nor have I proven to be dishonest here.



I can do all day (not literally).

Evidence of absense. There is no indication that he revoked his American Hero License in place of a Japanese one. Also you haven't proven that he HAS revoked his American Hero License nor that it's a requirement that the hero lives in the country to be eligible to become number one in that country.



Again, his eligibility isn't brought up in this episode at all.



Nothing about this says that CC has registered as a Japanese hero and is no longer considered an American Hero, not to mention that the English video is speaking in the PRESENT TENSE, meaning that he's still the number one hero. If he was no longer an American Hero, the video would have said he WAS the number one hero.

To go back to the registration point, if you recall, All Might wasn't in Japan prior to the start of MHA given that it's explained that he's returned, yet he wasn't required to register as a Japanese hero given it's the location he got his license in the first place. Chances are it would take a decent amount of time to do the proper paperwork to do so. All that's required to do hero work in a foreign country is some simple paperwork and the country's (in this case Japan) authority to do the work, which is implied when Cathleen flies off to Japan.



I'm not gonna take your patronizing attitude. Either speak to me as an equal or don't bother speaking to me at all because I won't tolerate any disrespect.

@KingBaller06

Not an argument. This screenshot directly refutes your entire point.



This is splitting hairs and ignores what's obviously happening on screen. He is confirmed to be working as a hero in Japan going forward. Therefore is not a working US hero.



Again, you have no evidence that he is still registered in the US. The screenshot above clearly states he is going to be working in Japan going forward, and is again reaffirmed by Makoto. The onus is on you to prove otherwise. You haven't other than base speculation. My argument is backed by both screenshots and critical thinking. He left the US, he now works in Japan, therefore he is now a working hero in Japan, not the US.



Remember, this entire waste of time started because I was curious, from a lore standpoint, who the number one hero was since Captain Celebrity left. I didn't believe it was Star because she outclasses CC by a country mile. My question was both innocent and innocuous. You came in with a "matter of fact" attitude and acted as if I was some naïve fool for even asking that question. Everything you've argued up to this point is irrelevant, unimportant, and inconsequential. I've only responded because of your bad attitude. And it wasn't just towards me, it was towards several other users. Everything you respond with regarding this argument after this will be irrelevant, unimportant, and inconsequential, in every way, shape, and form to this series going forward. You're arguing about nothing. And the fact you haven't realized this is why I have second hand embarrassment about this whole thing.

@takkun_



I have not done such a thing. I have expressed my disagreements just as anybody else does. Acting as if I'm some antagonist here is absolutely absurd.



Evidence of absence, meaning that nothing indicates that he has to unregister from the U.S. to become a hero in Japan.



No, this is establishing the information clearly given in the episode. He IS the number one hero in the U.S.



The screenshot in no way says anything along the lines of "Captain Celebrity has relinquished his American Hero License in order to become a Japanese hero". All it says is that he is gonna be working in Tokyo, just like how All Might wasn't working in Japan, but was still the Number One Hero in Japan.



I don't know what an "onus" is, but I do know that there is no implication or statement that says one is required to unregister from one country and register in another to be a hero in said country. Foreign heroes are allowed to do hero work in other countries as long as their government has filled out the necessary paperwork. Said paperwork isn't in any way implied to require one to no longer be a hero of their home country.



If you truly believed that, you could have simply ignored me and stopped responding after you initial response or me or better yet, not respond at all.



Said screenshots have not in any way indicated that one, a foreign hero HAS TO relinquish their home country hero license to do hero work in another country on a more permanent basis or two, said hero is taken off of his/her home country's Hero Billboard Chart. Also going back to the rank contributions, none of said contributions directly say that said hero resolves incidents in their own country.



No, what I've done is use something called LOGIC and REASONING, you know, the same thing that you just said Knuckleduster did (that you cited as evidence might I add).

So again, speak to me as an equal or don't even bother.