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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The Kingdom of Rekka has outfitted its army with Bind Warpers, forming an army of loyalty-convicted Briheights in the process, ready to take on the world after Lutoh. It's clear that Shu Bi's cruddy investigation is attempting to change Rekka, and with Kai and Ren Sin around, they can't afford to give anything away right from the very start. As for Edger Village, it has transformed into a Granedger Briheight of refuge thanks to and powered by Elsha's Briheight, and Back Arrow on the other hand, Bit tries to sell him off through the Lutoh hostage Tyrone to the Iki president...that is, everyone except Atlee. An entirely contrived plot of the purchase of lies and betrayal, not to mention simple foolish manipulation of kids from adults...a trade for the "better" and protection of secrecy against the two nations at war. Being sold off and bought in again, with Back Arrow's help, the same trick plot doesn't strike twice. Off into the new world, and the plan is set into motion on a grand scale with the weapon that will be a liability to all who sees it. And Shu Bi's taking it personally to find Back Arrow again, this time to eliminate him for good. |
KANLen09Jan 23, 2021 5:17 AM
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| The village people were wayyy too gullible. Shu Bi is planning something, probably gonna help the village people or something? |
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| Obviously it was a lie/trap, but well Back Arrow is still here to save them even though they tried to sell him, and now they'll stay on the ship "Grand Edger" it seems pretty good but for sure it's not the end of their problems |
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| Arrow is too good for the Village except Atlee. How hard is it for characters to have common sense? |
| The mecha design reminds me of Gad Guard. |
| I am usually not a huge fan of betrayal scenarios and predictable villains being revealed to be villainous, but I think it worked out pretty well in this case, particularly because it was quickly resolved and Arrow maintained a charismatic and positive attitude. He was quite understanding and supportive towards the rest of the cast, which helps to establish their interactions from this point onward. I think the intrigue building up on the Rekka side was also interesting. I imagine we'll get more of that next week. Also, the ship looks pretty sick. |
| Again, kinda just mediocre. I still 100% dont care for anyone in this show, but back arrow did have a decent moment when he was talking while being tied up, as he seemed like the only one that wasnt a complete dumbass and knew this was truly an obvious trap. The fight at the end with atlee and the sheriff kinda just happened i guess. The ship was big, strange no one tried to explore it? At least get in the ship. Now that they are out of this stupid village problem, maybe it will become more interesting. I hope. |
VP2003boi said: The ship was big, strange no one tried to explore it? At least get in the ship. Now that they are out of this stupid village problem, maybe it will become more interesting. I hope. I'm sure there will be more for the characters to discover and discuss about the ship, who knows what they will find, but right now they were using it as an improvised mode of transportation. It is pretty clear this was the end of the introductory arc, so to speak, so that's a safe assumption. I was also getting slightly tired of the village setting myself, so that's good. |
GolbeztheGreat said: I'm sure there will be more for the characters to discover and discuss about the ship, who knows what they will find, but right now they were using it as an improvised mode of transportation. Like, i get that, but if normal people saw a giant ship appear out of no where, the first thing a lot of people would probably think is "hey whats inside?" and lets not forget that most of the time people travelling in airships, are inside of it, not outside. |
| Yeah, Bit is a dumbass, but so is everyone else in the villiage for believing the mayor. Not sure what else there is to say. It’s obvious that the ship will not end the world, but show the world that there is more beyond the wall. The plot has yet to offer anything unique. |
| The twist was so obvious and idk how the village people believed them. Back Arrow saves the day once again I guess. |
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| Now that the crew got on board Granedger it can be said that the introduction is over and the adventure begins. Looking forward to see what secrets and capabilities the ship possesses. |
| Uh oooh, stupid villagers , they just don't know what they have, especially that Bit who is just way too much of a sucker of believing what them Lothr Captain says... So Atlee's Briheight can kickass if her Conviction is great. |
| Not too interesting at the moment. After the first episodes where the setting was still fresh and the comedy was still okay. But I guess it will get better now. With the Shu Bi guy having to kill Arrow they might turn to the other nation for help. (And the princess there getting more screentime. And more backgrounds. The big ship must be from some civilization that lives beyond the wall that also developed those Bind Warpers I guess.) |
| the plot fine but I would like it more if the mod more mature 6/10 for now |
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JohanJ04 said: Just trash, isn't the next code Geass or Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagan It doesn't have much in common with Code Geass, which I happen to like for the record, but it is pretty in line with early Gurren Lagann (and Gun X Sword now that Nyron mentioned it). |
| way to go action packed episode! 5/5. |
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| Quite cliche episode with some cringe lines like we abandoned you why save us lol. So they got a huge ship which is larger than their village but they dun want it and ofc they fall for the villains tricks lmao, great. Oh well they learned their lesson atleast and now they have left Iki and living onboard the ship. Also looks like we are in for love triangle too. Bit likes Atlee but Atlee likes arrow and Elsha will end up liking Arrow too I think so I hope it doesn't turn into a cringe fest. |
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| I might have found the reason why this show is rated this low and it's shown again in this episode. The story is kinda rushed and, how do i say it, there's some unnecessary cut. Plus in this episode the plot twist is kind of obvious, but it's saved by how chill back accepting those treatment. Truly an MC without conviction (so far). However, the action is still lit and it's difficult for me to dislike superpower anime, the one that has transformation in it especially. |
War_DJan 23, 2021 3:58 AM
| Seems like that this show is starting to develop more of a plot. |
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Nyron said: I somewhat disagree. Every character seems to have a role, but they have shown nothing of it. Thats not necessarily bad as we are just in the third episode, but the fact is that they are trying to make us care about these characters just through their "motivations" as their personalities are not that interesting at all. So it just becomes this awkward situation where the anime says that this character has a certain "motivation" or "secret" behind their actions, but they are too cliche and tedious for you to care about them before they show what those motivations actually are. And the visuals also dont really help, there is practically no animation and the art itself is fine i guess as is the cg. Again, i see potential in this, but if i didnt know this was a 24 episode nakashima anime, you can be sure i would have dropped it already.There's a lot being set up here, as per other series like GunXSword and Scryed. Every character has an established motivation and seeing how they all play out will be interesting. Arrow's role within the village is becoming more clear We still don't know Elsha's conviction iirc Atlee is leveling up and so is Bit, and seeing where their characters end up will be a big throughline of the series Doctor Guy hinted at being mysterious Shu and Kai are at odds with the Emperor Ninja girl and Shu's relationship is pretty funny, and she herself obviously has more going on under the hood, based on the OP The emperor is obviously a lot more than a feeble old guy Lutoh Princess is at odds with her two advisors Iki's government will probably come back at some point when bullied by one of the other countries I eat this shit up. Every party has a role to play. |
VP2003boiJan 23, 2021 8:45 AM
| I really think that this is trying to evoke old mecha shows like Vandread or Nadesico, but still fairly mediocre episode the writing struggling hard. them in their new dreadnought after having destroyed the village? They unearthed a ginormous war machine the size of a city, three giant mechs in a world where even one is pretty rare, and the first thing they do is throw themselves at the mercy of the local nobility? These guys aren't even hiding how evil they are. They literally cackle with glee about how evil they are. And stupid too. Their grand plan was to destroy all the super valuable stuff they've uncovered and could have hijacked because that way, they can maintain their neutrality. As everyone knows, the best way to stay neutral is to say that you've destroyed priceless things that they want so that other people can't have them. Especially for such obviously honest and sane people. Beginning with the five minute cutaway to check in on court intrigue, ending with "You guys should totally be banging," only to jump right to the villagers continuing to act like absolute lunatics just had me shaking my head in utter disbelief for the entire first half. |
RayReynolds said: I really think that this is trying to evoke old mecha shows like Vandread or Nadesico, but still fairly mediocre episode the writing struggling hard. them in their new dreadnought after having destroyed the village? I don't see a huge resemblance to those two in particular (this is more like Xabungle or even Overman King Gainer for instance), but even so...you really could go equally unnecessarily cynical and super negative about how characters reacted unrealistically at various points in those series too, if you wanted. They unearthed a ginormous war machine the size of a city, three giant mechs in a world where even one is pretty rare, and the first thing they do is throw themselves at the mercy of the local nobility? Considering they're ignorant rural folk, aside from the doctor who is clearly hiding something, I am not too surprised they don't exactly have a brilliant plan for what to do in such a situation. Also, I think the size is more like that of a town than a city. These guys aren't even hiding how evil they are. They literally cackle with glee about how evil they are. And stupid too. Their grand plan was to destroy all the super valuable stuff they've uncovered and could have hijacked because that way, they can maintain their neutrality. As everyone knows, the best way to stay neutral is to say that you've destroyed priceless things that they want so that other people can't have them. Especially for such obviously honest and sane people. Let's be unnecessarily serious for a moment here. Historically, there's two main ways to approach neutrality on paper. One, you prove that you're not a military threat to either of the other parties in conflict by supporting disarmament and participating in diplomatic negotiations, etc. Two, you arm yourself to the teeth and develop powerful forces so nobody will want to mess with you or at least only at a high cost. Option two is usually the best one, sure, but it requires you to have enough resources to back up that stance. Not every single country, whether real or fictional, can easily do such a thing. Going back to the actual show, they're clearly portrayed as poor and weak compared to the other two nations. It's rather obvious they couldn't exactly defend the battleship from attack by either faction. That being the case, the way they act is still cartoonish (we are supposed to be watching a cartoon, after all, not a historical documentary), yet not too difficult or somehow impossible to understand. Hardly "lunatic". Beginning with the five minute cutaway to check in on court intrigue, ending with "You guys should totally be banging," only to jump right to the villagers continuing to act like absolute lunatics just had me shaking my head in utter disbelief for the entire first half. Still not as big of a leap as what happens in Nadesico or, like I said, Xabungle. Both of which are series that combine ridiculous situations and also more serious moments (one right after the other, sometimes). |
GolbeztheGreatJan 23, 2021 11:02 AM
JohanJ04 said: Just trash, isn't the next code Geass or Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagan Personally I found those two shows were more ridiculous than this. |
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Nyron said: So you are saying that the actual first impression is completely unnecessary then? The 3 episode rule is certainly flawed, but exists for a reason. These characters can become better, but can you really be sure they will? Most series that start of mediocre at least have one or two characters that you at least appreciate and make you want to continue it, this really doesnt. It just has "potencial", again, mostly because its nakashima, but i can honestly see how this world they thought about can be interesting, but its really just a "can" not a "is". First impressions, especially to original anime, are extremely important, as you dont have the usual manga readers saying that "it will get better!!". I, like a lot of people, love character development, but i wont judge a series with 3 episodes out by its potential, what i will do is judge by those 3 episodes that are out (And lets not forget that these threads are episode threads, not overall series reviews).yeah, kind of baffled how anyone could be befuddled by the tone shift or whatever there and also talk about Nadesico, which seamlessy jumped between major character deaths and doofy romcom antics o a constant basis. I think a lot of the criticism so far is very, very pedantic, breaking down and criticizing characters 3 episodes into a 24 episode show. This is normal for people who watch Isekais and aren't used to characters changing over time, I guess |
| Throughout the whole episode I was like "JUST USE THE SHIP AS YOUR NEW VILLAGE". Elsha's conviction is protecting the village (not the physical location but the villagers themselves) that's why her Briheight powers the ship; the ship is something that the new villagers can live on. Wow, the president of this neutral America-based country is a total scumbag, he's playing both sides to remain on top and sacrifice his own populace to stay out of conflict. |
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VP2003boi said: So you are saying that the actual first impression is completely unnecessary then? The 3 episode rule is certainly flawed, but exists for a reason. These characters can become better, but can you really be sure they will? Most series that start of mediocre at least have one or two characters that you at least appreciate and make you want to continue it, this really doesnt. That's a matter of opinion. I would say Arrow is already a pretty fun and charismatic guy, even if I hated everyone else (and no, I actually don't since a few other characters seem interesting enough in their own way, particularly during this episode). It's fine for people to think differently, as a matter of principle, but I hope you'll also understand those who like the show may see things in another light. |
GolbeztheGreat said: I understand that, i was just angry about the other guy as he has been insulting multiple people in these threads. You on the other hand are a lot more chill, which i very much apreciate. And i dont mind people with oposite opinions of mine, these are "episode discussions" threads, and i very much love a good discussion.[ It's fine for people to think differently, as a matter of principle, but I hope you'll also understand those who like the show may see things in another light. |
| Well, that was surely a cliche plot using Bit as a device to progressed their development. Barely unacceptable. But well, in the end its still fine enough to continue, to say the least, for the sake of Atlee and Elsha. Elsha in one side really had a great amount of conviction among the others, proved by being able to controlled that huge airship. What a spirit. However, in the other side, she was still immature, and lack of experience, together with that Bit dumbass. So, that they could be easily cheated to be like that. Fortunately, the plot directing themself into a better positions, and created a good amount of development over their inexperience characters. Back Arrow saved the day, once again, and Atlee successfully loosen up the snare of humiliation. A decent end to closed that mess. Still this is only the first-three episode, and the amount of slow pace hinted another surprising moments. So, i must be prepared for the worst. Shu, i hope you give me a good amount of entertain in the next episode. |
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| This show has developed quite a few annoying and unintelligent characters. There isn't very much to say here. Very boring and predictable. I can see the story developing with the "wall" though. Seems like it is going to be a key component later on for this show so I'm gonna stick around to see if that'll develop. |
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| Man, I don't think I've ever seen a two cour anime that has such a rapid-firing pace as this one. I don't know if that's a bad thing or not. Time will tell I suppose. |
| Honestly, this anime slaps hard so far. I think it has the potential to become something great. |
| Stop wasting time on MAL, go watch Planet With! |
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