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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This is like some weird reimaging of the world Sakaido knew. No doubt the world he is in this episode gave him similiar feelings as one he's very familiar with. He even makes a promise to end the misery of a particular girl. A thrilling episode with more lives at danger. Sakaido's own involvement with the latest case made him intimidating even though he's in a wheechair lol |
Stark700Feb 23, 2020 7:30 AM
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| You know, if this show ends with Sakaido being a vegetable and some weird, limbo/well thingy happens where he and his family live happily ever after .. i wouldn't even be surprised, you know like Repo Men movie ending. |
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| "Real world" is 1st layer of dream? At least that what's hinted in this episode |
| We finally got to see a glimpse of John Walker's face and he looks an awful lot like the chief of their police-organization-thing. You can even see he has his hair tied. |
| Whoa, Sakaido's gonna kill those serial killers all over again since he has been in their wells before. I like that. |
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| This is turning into supernatural but this was great. So Kaeru chan was based on Kiki Asukai and she has some powers which john Walker used to make serial killers. Well this was interesting. |
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| This was a very interesting episode. Narihisago was able to keep his memories by diving into Kiki Asukai's well from within a well. That may also mean that Hondoumachi who also dived into that well from previous episodes. Man, I feel sorry for Kaeru/Kiki. She's being killed in every dream by serial killers and it's all John Walker guy fault. |
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| I have no idea what's going on anymore... which is perfect since it makes the plot twist much more satisfying. 4 episodes left, the hype is real now. |
| Damn this keeps on happening hmmm,,... nice outlook where Kaeru is actually alive |
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lpf said: Seems like the Mizuhanome works by keeping Asukai around, feeding her the intent-to-kill particles and hooking up people to her dreams... And this is why only killers can enter the Mizuhanome... This basically sums up my thoughts. Every serial killer has a dead Kaeru-chan in their id well and since we learned that Kaeru is Kiki everything started to make more sense. I think Johnny Walker really exists in this world Sakaido is currently in. |
| If you read Eleceed you're automatically my friend. |
| damn, this gave me some Inception vibes again. i like that it's getting even more and more confusing also, that combat scene was really awesome. it had this rock song while they beat the shit outta each other, sometimes it looked goofy and it really reminded me combat scenes from Guy Ritchie movies |
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| This is just MIND-BOGGLINGLY GOOD. Man, can't wait for this shit every week. |
| So Kiki or Kaeru keeps on getting killed by serial killers in her dreams to then have Sakaido solve them in each killer case. Damn someone needs to save this girl. |
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| It's a little complicated to understand fully. But if you remember past episodes, it might become more clear. Explains why people in these id wells are so scared of the man with the crane. Explains why Sakido can see the same girl dead in every id well he goes into. Seems like this crane man has some form of power to enter other's dreams/id wells, and bring killers along for the ride to kill people in their dreams over and over. Or least in this case. One girl. Interesting. But that's just my thoughts. |
| so kaeru is really dying or that just a program? |
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin” . |
| it's like if Inception and Minority report had a baby and the baby is always high |
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Daniel_Naumov said: ysphyr said: I love it but I'm so confused. Are they deliberately making John Walker look like the Director? What world is real? And how the hell are they gonna wrap the whole story up in just 4 episodes? Karen why do I have to do this over here as well... 1. John Walker got fat in only three years? Then yeah, he is the director. Except he is not, Director is a villain but on smaller scale, I keep saying that he is obsessed with John Walker, but is not him. 2. There are three established dimensions: real-world, ID-wells and dream-world, which is a state-of-the-art simulation which resides in Asukai Kiki's well. Her world (her ID-well) is not real, but it simulates reality. So far it is impossible to say just how much from that world can be considered crucial and real in the "real" world. Series deals with a lot of psychological ideas and their symbolism, which should give a hint to the viewer to stay critical and open-minded. 3.Uuuuuuh yes they can wrap it in 4 more episodes, easily actually. 1 more episode for the dream-world, back to real world, another ID-well of someone... namely the Director? And two final episodes to finally hunt down the John Walker. Unless they pull Babylon on us, the series should stay high-quality. I'm not saying John Walker is the Director (I'd be dissapointed if they'll go with something so trivial), but you can't deny JW kinda resembles him? Was that made on purpose to confuse us? But then again - that's how Akihito perceives JW, so does that mean deep inside he suspects the Director? Ahh, I confused myself even more, I need to stop. As for the worlds - how does Kiki's world recreates other people's lives? She most definetely didn't know Akihito's family and colleagues, yet they are exactly the way he remembers them. Does she use other people's memories to fill her world with details? Hope they'll explain this later. I also wonder why I constantly see people mentioning Babylon when talking about ID:Invaded... |
| Okay this is getting really mindfucking, I'm not sure what's going on anymore and I'm enjoying it a lot. |
fuyukiFeb 23, 2020 12:13 PM
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| ah ok so its not really technology but Kaeru an actual esper/psychic/ESP user is actually alive somewhere and her getting killed by serial killers repeatedly in the dream world means her ID well is Invaded repeatedly to solve those killers cases eh but Kaeru (or Kiki Asukai in real life) is tortured repeatedly for the sake of the greater good to solve this serial killer cases eh |
| Good Episode 7/10 |
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deg said: ah ok so its not really technology but Kaeru an actual esper/psychic/ESP user is actually alive somewhere and her getting killed by serial killers repeatedly in the dream world means her ID well is Invaded repeatedly to solve those killers cases eh but Kaeru (or Kiki Asukai in real life) is tortured repeatedly for the sake of the greater good to solve this serial killer cases eh Pretty much this. I hope Akihito can save her irl but that will probably mean the end of the whole well project, they need someone to be constantly invaded for it to work. But this at least explains why "Kaeru" is the default setting as well. I wonder what Hondomachi will do since she must had to end up in the same place. Probably next episode. Also, probably rip Anaido for now since he didn't eject as promised.. |
| Said it day one when I got retweeted by Funimation, this is an anime Nolan film. Absolutely masterful direction, writing and build up. It truly challenges you to use your brain to piece things together and doesn't feed you information. It's an interactive experience. Wish this wasn't so slept on, definitely the best of the season and deserves more love. But, I guess that's what happens when you air with Railgun, Bofuri, etc This episode was Fucking insane. Kiki's pain is unimaginable. The fact she hadn't killed herself yet was remarkable. The fight between Sakaido and the challenger was extremely unsettling and realistic. I bet this anime ends with everything having happened within a 4000x Id well. Can't wait for next week |
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| First of all-- WOW! This episode was such a trip that answered a few questions but opened many more up! I feel awful for Kiki and what John Walker is doing to her.. I just want to know why? He wouldn't be having people kill her in her dreams if he had no affiliation with her.. I also was very happy to see Sakaido get to see see his family again. It is all bittersweet, though, when taking into account that none of it is real. It really pulled at my heart strings when his wife said, "If I die, it isn't real." Ugh..if only she knew. I know Sakaido is busy, understandably so, but he better not forget to look for Hondomachi. ALSO, ANAIDO, I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF 10 MINUTES? I understand that he does not have a clock and the sun does not rise or go down, but lordy, Anaido. Oh and I am still convinced that Momoki is NOT John Walker, please don't @me. Overall, a fantastic episode, and I cannot wait to see what comes next! |
ferdievonaegir said: I feel like john walker HAS to be the director, he looked exactly like him this episode... but honestly i wouldn't be disappointed with that, i know people may think it's too "obvious" or "boring" but given with how mindfuckery-ish everything else about the show is i'd be fine with having something 'predictable.' i hope this gets a season 2, not sure how well they could wrap it up in just 4 episodes Yeah, I am hoping for a season too as well. This story is very interesting but complicated. I agree that it would be VERY hard to wrap it up with the remaining episodes. |
| I hope Narihisago continues this path of justice where he stops all the serial killers before they start actually killing. Gosh it's interesting, I can't wait to see where this ends up next week. |
| Kinda got some stiens gate vibe going on. |
| yeah, clearly the machine is made using Kiki. Sounds viscous. Immoral to sacrifice one person for the sake of others, against their will. I hope he can save her, among others. |
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| Come to think about it, throughout the series it was hinted that Koharu Hondoumachi had some kind of internal conflict after having a hole drilled in her head, so I wouldn't really be surprised if the upcoming twist in the story will be that in that dream world she embraces her serial killer side. Although, I don't know how much of that could be truth. |
| This anime is so confusing...I love it ! |
| Finally, we know more about the real Kaeru-chan in real life. Its was a bit creepy that she is being killed in every dream by serial killers. That explain why every serial killer has a dead Kaeru-chan in their id well. Save her! This episode made me think a lot so it's a very good series. 5/5 |
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| This 'inception like' kind of shit is so fuckin awsome. This anime just keeps gettin better and better. It really has potential for a live action adaptation |
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