| Well, for starters, you need to look good. Appearance is legit the first thing someone notices, and if you look pretty bad or unappealing, well ... You're not going to get much interest from anyone. That's just how it works with most women, because they tend to be shallow. Not everyone, of course, but yeah, you get my point. |
| Girls are not aliens. There are not any hacks or cheats to make female friends lol just be natural. |
 Ｓｗｅｅｔ♥I guess, as long as I have life, all I can do is fight with all my might. |
| Treat them like you treat guys, just talk to them normally. If they are immediately unsympathetic, just talk to someone else. Some people just don't want to socialize as much, so let them have it their way. And yes, looks are important. Looks and body language, tone of voice and such, all of these things together are probably more important than all of the above. |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
HopefulNihilist said: Sweet said: Girls are not aliens. There are not any hacks or cheats to make female friends lol just be natural. I try to act natural, then they run away. From my perspective, they might as WELL be aliens. The old man also told me that girls can completely sense how you feel towards them. Is this true? Mmmm... I would say that we can’t know how men feel 100% of the times, but a lot of the times we do. Ok see it from this perspective, when you are a young adult woman (I’m 21 for example) you probably had looooooooooooots of fuckboys behind you trying to flirt and go beyond a simple friendship when you were in high school, and eventually we learn how to identify those guys. |
Ｓｗｅｅｔ♥I guess, as long as I have life, all I can do is fight with all my might. |
| That's a primary sign of her not being sexually attracted to you. As others have said, looks are extremely important, especially for first impressions. Hit the gym, get a haircut that suits you, dress well, take care of your skin etc. Being tall helps too. There are a ton of looksmaxing guides on the internet, especially reddit so you can look that up too if you want. |
| your name jeff? if the answe is no, there lies ur problem |
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| how to get females to open up lay female on her back using one of your own hands , move one of her legs aside repeat for the other leg u have now opened up a female |
| Am I the only one who thought dirty things after reading that title |
| Forget about them, ignore them. Focus on what you need to be doing right now. Be content, be successful. It will come naturally with power creep. Quantity over quality or quality over quantity it doesn't matter as long as you get your dick wet my son. justcaolan said: Am I the only one who thought dirty things after reading that title Also this. Apply the Shocker. Two in the *redacted* one in the *redacted*. |
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| @HopefulNihilist Firstly you need , to look good , and I don't mean you have to be handsome af or something like that , but you need to wear clean clothes and you have to "smell" clean so you can't for par example don't take a shower for 3-4 days and trying to speak with girls cause it won't work. Second you need to make a good match with colour of your clothes , ofc most of men including me doesn't understand these matches but girls really look at that and pay attention for that. 3: Your face have to look good and I mean by emotions , being sad and showing that to everyone won't work cause girls don't want to talk with guys who will soon talk about their sad mood etc. You need to smile and show that you're mostly natural ( ofc don't make a force smile it's visible) You need to talk a little bit , get some knowledge about a girl and you have to show her that you're a man with whom she can have relationship even if you don't plan it . Before meeting , at least the first meet you can't smoke or obv. drink alcohol cause it will be noticed and it will make a negative grade about you. After a dialouge you should ask about idk. Facebook , number of phone etc. to get a possibility to ask her about a meeting in next time etc. Tbh I don't know what to say more , some of my friends who are more outgoing than me probably would give you better advices but well their not a part of MAL comunity unfortunately. HopefulNihilist said: Sweet said: Girls are not aliens. There are not any hacks or cheats to make female friends lol just be natural. I try to act natural, then they run away. From my perspective, they might as WELL be aliens. The old man also told me that girls can completely sense how you feel towards them. Is this true? Hmmmm in some kinds I would say that yeah , girls can see and feel how you feel towards them and no it's not because a super powers or mind diffrence of genders it's because that you can see that by muscles on your face , secondly you can make a force smile to show that you're happy and ok , but your eyes will always show the truth , also alot of times you can recognise what type of a man or woman is someone by looking on his/hers style of walking . |
ZettaikenSep 18, 2018 1:44 PM
| 1. Having a good appearance is important. 2. Be skilled socially to adapt to various topics. |
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HopefulNihilist said: But I'm not interested in entering into any kind of relationship with girls that I try to talk to! I just want to make friends! I'm too busy with life to worry about a relationship. I know, and that's why I'm telling you to be natural. If you act too nervous around them they might think that you are trying to hit on them. |
Ｓｗｅｅｔ♥I guess, as long as I have life, all I can do is fight with all my might. |
| Have you asked her to do the splits?? |
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| Try to come off as aloof and comfortable in your own skin. Acting nervous and insecure will just make you seem desperate and needy, and pretty much everyone finds that shit offputting. I have issues with social anxiety too so I know how difficult it can be but you'll get better at it the more you practice |
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HopefulNihilist said: Sweet said: I know, and that's why I'm telling you to be natural. If you act too nervous around them they might think that you are trying to hit on them. Wait...you've gotta be kidding me...this whole time...when my social anxiety started going haywire...they not only sensed it, but they thought I was hitting on them? Goddammit! It's all because of my social anxiety! As I told you, interpretation changes depending on the person, but that's a very common one. If you suffer from anxiety I think it would be better to work on that first before you try to socialize. |
Ｓｗｅｅｔ♥I guess, as long as I have life, all I can do is fight with all my might. |
| Ask her if she's read Karl Marx. If she smiles, she's the one. Likewise, girls can try this on guys. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| Your social anxiety is gonna get in the way, with making friends with girls. My advice. Either explain the situation to these girls, or get some help. |
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HopefulNihilist said: There is no way to make it not weird. You just have to be frank and tell it like it is.mascarpone said: Your social anxiety is gonna get in the way, with making friends with girls. My advice. Either explain the situation to these girls, or get some help. How do you explain to someone within 5 minutes knowing them that you have social anxiety WITHOUT coming off as weird? |
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HopefulNihilist said: It's a possibility, but there's no guarantee they will. mascarpone said: There is no way to make it not weird. You just have to be frank and tell it like it is. But if I do that...won't they run away? |
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HopefulNihilist said: That's true. If you want, you could just say something like "I'm not very good at meeting new people".mascarpone said: It's a possibility, but there's no guarantee they will. True, but isn't the possibility...like...high? |
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HopefulNihilist said: Every time I try to talk to a girl (who's in her teens), she always has this stone-cold, dead, look on her face. Especially with attractive girls, like their puppy just died or something. I try to talk to her, I try asking her normal things, like what her major is. She answers my questions, then ignores me. Or she's just always on her phone. Aren't women known to have keen intuition? Can't they sense when a guy is JUST trying to socialize with them, just trying to be friendly? Meanwhile, I see other guys, being all confident and outgoing, girls flock to them! They smile! They start talking! They open up! Please help me... Please don't tell me, "Be yourself" because that never works. However you are coming across, they artn't interested socially or romantically. If your overall goal is to be more outgoing, then the girl aspect is irrelevant. Me, personally, I don't sit will with women, I speak my mind, and I have no issues being my male self around them. Since I don't particularly cater to feelings, or care to, most women simply find me abrasive, which really is quite fine. |
Well with that what I said you can normally also be friends with a girl , that what I said is the way how I was making friends with some girls . But most of girls I know from school , parties or from sports events etc. |
| I'm gonna give you a big secret for getting girls. All you have to do is listen to them. That's it. Not just wait for your turn to speak, but just sit and listen to them. Just doing that can go a really long way. Of course, you can't discount natural charm and charisma. Some men just have it, and it makes it much easier to talk to girls and get them to open up. If you're low in the charm department, just be a bit more patient, and a bit more persistent. edit: Also, I hate to add this, but some guys are oblivious to it, so I'll just say it.... be aware of your own league, and don't try to shoot too far above it. Also, nothing is awkward unless you MAKE it awkward. If you say something that you worry may come off as weird or awkward, just laugh at yourself and say "sorry I know I'm hella awkward" or something like that. Don't get hung up on worrying about what you just said or how you're coming off, if you're at ease and willing to laugh at yourself, pretty much nothing will be awkward. one more comment: The confidence in yourself that you exude is everything. If you're not confident in yoruself, they will pick up on it and not think much of you. Granted, confidence isn't necessarily something you can just learn, but it is something you can grow over time. If that's relevant to you, then try to think of ways you can feel more confident. Not just in looks, but skills and competency are a huge turn-on in men. Being good at something or knowledgeable about something (anime dosne't count, lol) can reallllyyy go a long way. |
Si-RanSep 18, 2018 5:17 PM
HopefulNihilist said: Sweet said: Girls are not aliens. There are not any hacks or cheats to make female friends lol just be natural. I try to act natural, then they run away. From my perspective, they might as WELL be aliens. The old man also told me that girls can completely sense how you feel towards them. Is this true? Lol, no, not at all. Not most young women, anyways. Most young girls are so self absorbed in their own drama they sorta have a series of blanket judgements they apply to men: "he wants to fuck me", "I want him to like me", "he's a loser and he'll never get a chance at me", or "this guy dosen't even register on my sex-radar" I know ppl will get mad at those generalizations, but it's sorta true. No offense but most of the replies I've read to this post seem like pretty generic and/or overthought advice. I'm speaking as a girl who has experience with guys, and also had to overcome a reasonable amount of social anxiety in my early 20s, and have since had a much easier time interacting with people naturally. @HopefulNihilist "Many times, I start get angry when I can't socialize with a girl, out of frustration. Do they sense that?" Yeah, that they likely can sense, and it's a huge turnoff. If they're not responding, don't take it personally. Just ease off and maybe try to strike up a conversation next time. If they get the impression you're the type of guy that thinks all women owe him some attention, they will definitely not like you. Sometimes it takes a few short conversations before the girl shows any interest, if she shows any at all. Comes down to, ask her questions, be interested in her--if she's not showing an interest, just back off and try talking to another girl sometime. No big deal. |
Si-RanSep 18, 2018 5:29 PM
| Didn't you have a thread the other day asking why girls are always laughing when you talk to them? Did this change or something? But in all seriousness, what's the context/situation when you're speaking to these girls? Are you approaching them in random places, or in social situations? Timing is very important when trying to converse with others. If I'm on my way somewhere, or studying, or sitting alone somewhere minding my own business, it probably means I want to be left alone (regardless of the gender of who is trying to speak with me). There's also the chance that these girls just don't want to talk to you. This isn't something you should feel offended about. I'm sure there's some girls you don't want to talk to either. Just take their hint and move on. Try to find someone who shares a hobby with you, maybe in a club or some sort of group activity that creates the opportunity to get to talk to others and meet new people. Don't try to force it by randomly approaching girls wherever. |
| I'm not here to give any useful suggestion but I really do think you need to think less of those and act as yourself in public if you really want to give off good impression you would want to smile more and be more friendly with girls |
| I thought I had girl problems... sheesh Why do you want these girls to open up to you so badly anyway? Are you sure you have absolutely no ulterior motives? I think you need to start being more honest with yourself and think about why this means so much to you. My one piece of advice would be, just stop thinking so much... girls like spontaneity and fun. I ruined my chances with a few girls by being too neurotic and organized. Even if you're not trying to smash you just need to be more relaxed and have some fun, crack some jokes; even if its at your own expense. The less you care the better it is. |
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
| Some chloroform and a scalpel. Why do you want to open up girls, are you a pedo serial killer? |
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| Rarely I see a dude and a girl just be friends, in most cases it leads to intimate relationship or it doesn't... Mhhh, then again I might be wrong; I'm just your typical MALer anyway But then again, I find this quite different as you age older around 30s.... Mhhhh |
| Why do you want to be her friend? Do you have any common interests? I'd just focus on that and be nice to her. But friendship has to come from two sides, maybe she's just not interested. I'd be happy if someone was nice to me and showed interest in me (not if they're creepy, of course). Just be honest about your intentions :D |
  “If you live for yourself you’ve only got yourself to blame. So I can’t really blame anyone else and I don’t have any regrets.” list |
| Be like Kirito. If you cannot be like Kirito, you cannot have be flocking girls. |
| Is it possible you just come across loserish? |
| The more attachment you have to women, the less attractive you will be to them. I think that in your case, the first thing you need to develop is the ability to make the daily moments of your life exciting and vibrant. If you manage to develop this capacity, then you will not be perceived as someone who needs a woman to be happy, but as a man who can make magic with the ordynary moments of a woman. Developing this ability can be hell for someone boring by nature (people like you) but it is clear that the reward is worth it. How to start developing that skill? Well, learning to dance could be a great start. Dancing not only allows you to turn a boring moment into a fun one, but it gives you a great social and erotic advantage. It favors your self-esteem, security, body language and erotic / sexual intimacy. The dance also helps you to be more forgiving of yourself, as a result, you will learn to laugh at yourself (women love this!). I am aware that Spanish speakers have a great advantage when we talk about dancing, because the average of us learn it from an early age. However, in the Anglo-Saxon culture, the advantage of knowing how to dance is markedly superior because it is not something that anyone can do. In specific way, I would recommend learning to dance Salsa, because this genre combines fun with eroticism. hahahaha If you manage to master this type of dance and then you want to ascend to another league, then I recommend a more sophisticated and erotic dance: Tango. No, it´s not joke. Believe it or not, there is a big difference between going to the movies with the girl you like and teaching her to dance. ---- Si-Ran advise you to learn to listen. That is one of the best advice you could have received, because a man who listens is a constant caress for the self-esteem and vanity of a woman. Learning to listen will be especially effective in a woman lacking in flavor and grace (that mean boring) but is physically attractive. This weakness can increase exponentially when you show "strong indifference" to that woman's physical attractiveness because her subconscious would reflect in you the fragments of that dreamed man who prefers enjoy her words (heart) before in her physically attractive. Developing this type of ear is easier to practice for introverted men than for extroverted ones, so this ability is less difficult to acquire for men like you. ----- Men fall in love with their eyes and women with their ears. This reality is fulfilled in the Latin-speaking nations. It is easy to see a physically attractive Latin woman with an "average" Latin man, however it is uncommon to see the reverse. From what I have seen in women of Polish, Russian, Czech, Hungarian, Austrian, Irish, Hellenic, Persian and Israeli origin, I conclude that they also have a strong weakness for the written and verbal expressions of Cupid. I have reasonable doubts about the majority of women of Germanic, Arabic and Japanese origin. It happens that the less expressive the men of a culture are, the less auditory stimulation their women receive. In other words, in cultures where the gift of expression is less developed, women tend to be more visual and less auditory. Anglo-Saxon women seem to be somewhere between a Norwegian woman and an Italian woman, due to the strong Roman influence received in the British Isles. This becomes evident when we observe that in the Anglo-Saxon World, it is not women who play the role of "hunter" but men. In other words, developing the gift of expression can also be quite useful in USA. However, learning to stimulate a woman's hearing may be harder than learning to dance salsa, because this is not something that is learned in a school. Unlike nations like Italy or Austria, the USA is a deeply anti-intellectual nation because there never was a true balance between the intellect (priesthood) and force (militia). Feminine emotions can be stimulated wonderfully by means of a elevated capacity of expression-oral and written-but that ability does not usually develop abundantly in cultures in which strength and intellect fight against each other. So It is uncommon to see an Anglo-American man who is manly, romantic, and intelligent at the same time. So, if you want to develop the ability to stimulate female emotions through verbal and written expression, I suggest you immerse yourself in the romantic literature of nations that have managed to synthesize the intellect and strength. If you feel more identified with a manly and passionate philosopher, then it would be good to immerse yourself in Italian literature. If you feel more identified with a passionate and brilliant general, then I suggest you immerse yourself in Spanish literature. The "Italian route" will make things easier for you with women of Irish, German and Greek origin. The "Spanish route" will make things easier for you with women of French, Austrian and Polish origin. ------ The worthwhile things are often difficult to achieve because they require sacrifice and perseverance. I suggest taking the difficult road -but funny- |
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