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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Ah, I knew that ring would play an important role here or there eventually from one of the previous chapters. This should get interesting soon enough. Screw Mutsuki though. |
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| I really struggled in order to defend Mutsuki or at least try to justify some of her actions, but that scum had struggled even harder to prove me wrong. |
| I like the fact that Mirumo has the prime minister on speed dial. XD. I also liked the moment between Koori and Mirumo, that was very nice. Since the Qs are nearby, I have a feeling that Mutsuki will finally fall/die here. |
| Duuude someone end this bitch already... And this fucker Aura better not show up there aswell |
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| What the hell is this joke I made in last chapter 🤣 Aaaand, damn, I really hate that Mutsuki!! |
| Whoops Mutsuki showed up!! Haha I probably the only one who like him lol. I mean, I hate how Ishida decided to make him this way, but yandere is still a yandere and I always love crazy, psychotic characters because I find them at least entertaining. I'll be one of the few people who will shed tears (of sadness!) when he dies. Especially if he dies by the hands of the (original) Qs ; w ; Urie or Saiko or both. I hope his death will mean something/he gets meaningful death and not just die horrible death to satisfy readers's expected hatred. Anyway, they really is using metal detectors on Kaneki haha. Idk I saw this meme flying around and I couldn't help but laugh when it turned out to be true. Tsukiyama really amazing. No Hide this chapter so not as hyped :/ |
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Shicchi said: Whoops Mutsuki showed up!! Haha I probably the only one who like him lol. I mean, I hate how Ishida decided to make him this way, but yandere is still a yandere and I always love crazy, psychotic characters because I find them at least entertaining. I'll be one of the few people who will shed tears (of sadness!) when he dies. Especially if he dies by the hands of the (original) Qs ; w ; Urie or Saiko or both. I hope his death will mean something/he gets meaningful death and not just die horrible death to satisfy readers's expected hatred. Anyway, they really is using metal detectors on Kaneki haha. Idk I saw this meme flying around and I couldn't help but laugh when it turned out to be true. Tsukiyama really amazing. No Hide this chapter so not as hyped :/ >I probably the only one who like him lol >him |
| Mutsuki....have you lost your goddamn mind? Jesus... |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| "okay, Mutsuki needs to die, slowly, alone, missing several vital organs and limbs, off in some torture room for fucking with EVERYTHING, THAT PSYCHOPATHIC cunt." "Bend her 360 degrees back, remove her eyelids, severe her eye muscles and fix her eyes in place, take her fingernails then fingers out - same with toes - then turn on Despacito max volume while making her watch the emoji movie and It's Every Day Bro, all while ripping her skin off and putting concentrated capsaicin on it. To make her take in all the pain, give her wake-up shots along with pain intensifiers then inject HIV and cancer into her blood and bone, then stick a Pear of Anguish in you know where, I could go on for ages..." |
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| I hope Someone kill Mutsuki In the most horrible way possible . He/she is one of the last Antagonist In this series now that Eto,Furuta,Kanou and CCG have stop Influencing the plot. Please Ishida kill off Mutsuki and Aura. I hope Urie or Saiko kill her. |
dicecop said: Shicchi said: Whoops Mutsuki showed up!! Haha I probably the only one who like him lol. I mean, I hate how Ishida decided to make him this way, but yandere is still a yandere and I always love crazy, psychotic characters because I find them at least entertaining. I'll be one of the few people who will shed tears (of sadness!) when he dies. Especially if he dies by the hands of the (original) Qs ; w ; Urie or Saiko or both. I hope his death will mean something/he gets meaningful death and not just die horrible death to satisfy readers's expected hatred. Anyway, they really is using metal detectors on Kaneki haha. Idk I saw this meme flying around and I couldn't help but laugh when it turned out to be true. Tsukiyama really amazing. No Hide this chapter so not as hyped :/ >I probably the only one who like him lol >him Hmm?? What's wrong with it?? He refers to himself as he/him so I just respected that even though he's only a fictional character lol But of course because he actually has a vagina so the correct way to refer him is she/her, alrighty, to each their own but I like to refer to Mutsuki as he/him ;D Are we really debating what pronouns to use on an anime character? XD |
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| Damn her appearance scared the shit out of me I thought Touka was finished I was so relieved that she was fine *phew* When Tsukiyama's father said Dady is busy I laughed so hard. Next chapter gonna be good if she just dies. |
| I cringe every time Ishida puts Touka in dangerous situation because we already know she won't be killed. She has the strongest plot armor in the series. Shicchi said: Hmm?? What's wrong with it?? He refers to himself as he/him so I just respected that even though he's only a fictional character lol But of course because he actually has a vagina so the correct way to refer him is she/her, alrighty, to each their own but I like to refer to Mutsuki as he/him ;D Are we really debating what pronouns to use on an anime character? XD Are we still going over this? I can't be arsed to find the raws and show it to you but she started using female pronouns a lot after rue island arc. Not to mention she's listed as female by Ishida.  |
Z4k said: I cringe every time Ishida puts Touka in dangerous situation because we already know she won't be killed. She has the strongest plot armor in the series. Shicchi said: Hmm?? What's wrong with it?? He refers to himself as he/him so I just respected that even though he's only a fictional character lol But of course because he actually has a vagina so the correct way to refer him is she/her, alrighty, to each their own but I like to refer to Mutsuki as he/him ;D Are we really debating what pronouns to use on an anime character? XD Are we still going over this? I can't be arsed to find the raws and show it to you but she started using female pronouns a lot after rue island arc. Not to mention she's listed as female by Ishida. Are we really debating what pronouns to use on an anime character? XD But thanks for taking the time showing me that lol Might as well see the raw of what pronouns he/she uses. I've never read his line in the raw version so I wouldn't know. Did he really change the way he talks after Rue Island? Maybe I need to reread Anyway he got the prettiest eyes ; w ;  Also, why some of you so bothered by Mutsuki's pronouns like you care about the character at all. Aren't you all want him dead lol EDIT: Hey I found the panel:  Not sure what the english translation was because both basically means "I" but Mutsuki clearly suffered from conflicting identity here. For those who wondered, in the panel he used "Ore" (masculine) and "Watashi" (gender neutral) Which means, I think it's ok to use she/her or he/him on Mutsuki imo Because he is struggling himself and it's still unclear in the end |
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| Meh, new chapter starts rightoff with the bitch in the first panel, she should have stayed dead when Yomo roasted her Nice to see Ghouls and humans cooperate |
| just because I’ve gotten weaker, doesn’t mean that you got stronger, does it? |
| Hope Mutsuki gets the most brutal and gruesome death in the whole franchise. Had enough of this bitch's bs already. |
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| Anyone see that at the end? "Next Issue: A woman's fight" It's sounds like a "something she must do" kind of name. Which is good for Touka here. But hopeful her friends can get through to the bitch, things are so close to getting to a point where she might actually be able to get some help.. but she's pulling this shit now. -_-' |
| Felt like this chapter was too short, three double pages and a fight, I read it in like 2 minutes... But well, at least everyone's faaaavorite character is back. Can't see her killing Touka because Touka never dies anyway, like it was said above, and she's also alone so the fight won't last long with Miza there and the Quinx squad on its way. Guess her purpose here was just to awaken Dragon (at least I think that's what happened last chapter), so the search for the ring won't be so peaceful now. Didn't like this chapter much, tbh. |
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| I wonder if Urie's feelings towards Mutsuki have changed and if they're gonna get in the way of him fighting her. Either way, I want him or Saiko to be the ones to kill her not Touka |
fullmetal-ghoul said: so she's still a well written character and villain. hahahahhahahaha |
| Just damn enough Mutsuki already. I just hope Saiko and the rest will get there already for backup. I can't see much Miza and Touka to hold back Mutsuki. That eye of Kaneki looks at Touka, seems like its starting to move. |
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Raz1515 said: I wonder if Urie's feelings towards Mutsuki have changed and if they're gonna get in the way of him fighting her. Either way, I want him or Saiko to be the ones to kill her not Touka Me too, if anyones gonna kill Mutsuki, I hope it's Saiko or Urie or both and not Touka |
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fullmetal-ghoul said: WyNdZ said: I have come to the conclusion that Mutsuki is a plot device that does retarded shit in order to move the story forward. This show is supposed to be about ghouls and humans but instead we're focusing on the tantrums of some yandere. No, that's not how this shit works. People hate Mutsuki because her actions are stupid not because she's a well written villain. I mean seriously, where did you come up with this logic? Her actions are stupid and wrong, we're meant to hate them, which is my point. But her actions make sense given her abuse as a child and how she was starved of love and affection. So unhealthily obsessing over the one person (Haise) who cared for her, and being hurt as much as she currently is by his abandonment of her makes sense. It's not bad writing. People are just blinded by hate and refuse to acknowlege that Mutsuki is just a very damaged character and need to be saved by either killing or treating him. Though I don't know if treating him will be enough at this point so maybe death is the only way. I find it laughable that everyone able to forgive and excuse Kaneki's action so easily when he literally slaughtered a lot of innocent people while Mutsuki doing the exact same thing Kaneki did but in much less scale. "But Kaneki wasn't in his right mind and he suffered mental illnesses and have gone berserk...! He suffered so much!" Umm excuse you but that's the exact same thing happened to Mutsuki too lmao |
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| Guys why you are hating mutsuki that much...!!! I mean her actions are wrong no question about that but I think it's understandable given her suffering in the past... It also denotes how it's so damn hard for people and ghouls to accept each other Not every one is ready to let the past go.. |
| Fuck off already, Mutsuki. Die like the piece of shit that you are and let Kaneki + Touka be happy! |
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Kja95 said: Guys why you are hating mutsuki that much...!!! I mean her actions are wrong no question about that but I think it's understandable given her suffering in the past... It also denotes how it's so damn hard for people and ghouls to accept each other Not every one is ready to let the past go.. Yeah, I pretty much agree here.. Fuck her, but still feel bad. While it is true that I do have a really big soft spot for "troubled past" types. It isn't the only reason here. I mean just look at this series.. everyone left has killed before, and half of them actively hunted others, then killed or even murdered them. Pretty much no non glass houses left in the series as far as i'm concerned. It's all just a matter of who is in the way and what it takes to get them out of it at this point. (I kind of hope her friends are able to get through to her, or she at least gets beat out of commision here. But if she is going to be a continued threat to Touka and her family/relationship.. Then fuck that, I hope she gets dealt with quick and painlessly.) |
| Is this just me that finds it very stupid plot th way they'll find Kaneki because the ring? I mean he ate half the city, how many metals have he eaten? Even acessories from the humans he ate.. Or did i miss something? |
Aezeryel said: ayasaaki said: Is this just me that finds it very stupid plot th way they'll find Kaneki because the ring? I mean he ate half the city, how many metals have he eaten? Even acessories from the humans he ate.. Or did i miss something? Shhh, they can't know about that xD I'm guessing Ishida will pull something like "the ring's made out of special metal and the detectors only react to that specific metal". hahah yeaj that's what i tought aswell :( Just glad i didn't miss anything so far :v |
| Just disappointed I impatiently waited for this boring chapter.... Nofurutanorken/10 3/5 |
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James_xeno said: Kja95 said: Guys why you are hating mutsuki that much...!!! I mean her actions are wrong no question about that but I think it's understandable given her suffering in the past... It also denotes how it's so damn hard for people and ghouls to accept each other Not every one is ready to let the past go.. Yeah, I pretty much agree here.. Fuck her, but still feel bad. While it is true that I do have a really big soft spot for "troubled past" types. It isn't the only reason here. I mean just look at this series.. everyone left has killed before, and half of them actively hunted others, then killed or even murdered them. Pretty much no non glass houses left in the series as far as i'm concerned. It's all just a matter of who is in the way and what it takes to get them out of it at this point. (I kind of hope her friends are able to get through to her, or she at least gets beat out of commision here. But if she is going to be a continued threat to Touka and her family/relationship.. Then fuck that, I hope she gets dealt with quick and painlessly.) I just hope her problems are solved before dying if she is going to die... Either way I hate her as much as you.... |
| Ugh. I'm a bit sad that Mutsuki's initial complex character has been dumbed down to your regular yandere character but what can you do. It's not like the events of Rue Island could have no effect after all. That being said, I sense no danger for Touka here. She ain't gonna die and we know it. I wish we could just get on with it and find Kaneki via the metal detectors so that we can avoid another couple of weeks of predictable fight. |
| Geaaaaarrrggh... how can I respect wahmen if this shit continues.. I hope Urie can stop dat damn Mutsuki asap.. without killing her though, for some reason I feel bad as well for her |
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| That bitch is back again. |
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Kja95 said: James_xeno said: Yeah, I pretty much agree here.. Fuck her, but still feel bad. While it is true that I do have a really big soft spot for "troubled past" types. It isn't the only reason here. I mean just look at this series.. everyone left has killed before, and half of them actively hunted others, then killed or even murdered them. Pretty much no non glass houses left in the series as far as i'm concerned. It's all just a matter of who is in the way and what it takes to get them out of it at this point. (I kind of hope her friends are able to get through to her, or she at least gets beat out of commision here. But if she is going to be a continued threat to Touka and her family/relationship.. Then fuck that, I hope she gets dealt with quick and painlessly.) I just hope her problems are solved before dying if she is going to die... Either way I hate her as much as you.... Agreed.. as much as I hope it doesn't come to that though. :'/ |
| Why did Ishida have to turn Mutsuki into a yandere stereotype? It doesn't really make sense |
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Shicchi said: Hmm?? What's wrong with it?? He refers to himself as he/him so I just respected that even though he's only a fictional character lol But of course because he actually has a vagina so the correct way to refer him is she/her, alrighty, to each their own but I like to refer to Mutsuki as he/him ;D Are we really debating what pronouns to use on an anime character? XD Sis, this isn't Tumblr. Ishida says it's a woman, therefore it's a woman |
dicecop said: Shicchi said: Hmm?? What's wrong with it?? He refers to himself as he/him so I just respected that even though he's only a fictional character lol But of course because he actually has a vagina so the correct way to refer him is she/her, alrighty, to each their own but I like to refer to Mutsuki as he/him ;D Are we really debating what pronouns to use on an anime character? XD Sis, this isn't Tumblr. Ishida says it's a woman, therefore it's a woman So what if this isn't tumblr? That's like super irrelevant bro lol I'm sorry but you seemed to mixed up sex and gender. Woman =/= gender At least in this context. Just because it's revealed that Mutsuki's sex is woman, he still identified himself as man. Ishida still portrayed Mutsuki as this character with gender dysphoria. Now we know that Mutsuki's real reason he identify himself as man is to avoid trauma. In the narrative rn, Mutsuki apparently still switching between "Ore" and "Watashi" So, until Mutsuki embrace only one of them, I will continue refering to Mutsuki as a he ;D |
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Kvothe51 said: Why did Ishida have to turn Mutsuki into a yandere stereotype? It doesn't really make sense  But I really did wish Mutsuki's character would've gone another route but oh well... |
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| I honestly don't care what characters die, never really liked any of the main ones. I'm just hoping for a good ending! I don't think I'll be disappointed. |
James_xeno said: Anyone see that at the end? "Next Issue: A woman's fight" It's sounds like a "something she must do" kind of name. Which is good for Touka here. But hopeful her friends can get through to the bitch, things are so close to getting to a point where she might actually be able to get some help.. but she's pulling this shit now. -_-' I think that is a editors note not ishida's for all we know the next chapter could switch over to takizawa farting somewhere |
fullmetal-ghoul said: Great chapter again. A lot of people hate Mutsuki, myself included, but it is worth noting you're meant to hate her right now and so she's still a well written character and villain. That being said, I will be deeply satisfied if Touka kills Mutsuki next week. At the very least there's no way she's dying right now, but hopefully a woman's fight refers to Touka's fight to protect her husband + baby, but I could also see it referring to Mutsuki and her relationship with the Qs, which is a perfectly fine alternative. Oh man you should see some guys on tumblr trying to justify mutsukis actions right now and saying urie, saiko, touka and hide are all in the wrong for trying to help kaneki and saying we should not be hating her for poking dragoneki in the eyebal. |
Raz1515 said: I wonder if Urie's feelings towards Mutsuki have changed and if they're gonna get in the way of him fighting her. Either way, I want him or Saiko to be the ones to kill her not Touka Wait for it Saiko gets severly wounded or killed by Mutsuki and Urie loses his shit and tries to fight her only to find she canabilised all the ghouls herself and oggai killed. |
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