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Mar 6, 2016 8:11 PM
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So Third Origin activated huh, but this fight seems to have taken a harsh toll on poor Wendy as well. Nice hair Sherria, and boobs. :D And that finishing Heavenly Gathering of Clouds on Dimaria looked mighty impressive. Gotta be over then...right? But the cost of victory was unfortunately high. Seeing Granny Ultear again...:(
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I really need to stop being hyped for fights with this manga if it's not involving Acnologia.
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Sherria temporarily become an adult there because of the effects of the 3rd origin right? welp now she cannot use any magic anymore after she defeated Dimaria (in god mode) with god slaying magic, how convenient but thats how fiction goes lol
Mar 7, 2016 3:59 AM
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I just don't take this "you'll never be able to use magic again' too seriously.
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There goes another Spriggan. Hopefully the next time one goes down it won't require an ass pull or deus ex mashima.

I have to admit I enjoyed this chapter. Poor Wendy got trolled hard in this chapter.

Ultear is still an old lady still wondering how she got there lol
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I know some people are going to complain that Dimaria, but the hell with her, if Chelia is going to make this kind of sacrifice, she better win, or else it will be pointless.

Had me going there for a moment, so Ultear and Chelia they kind of tricked Wendy, she thought she had 3rd origin when she went to fight Dimaria and buy time, pretty risky move.

Is just me or 3rd origin Chelia looked older, for a moment I thought Lucy somehow appeared, that is how much older and how much bigger her breasts looked.

I am glad they didn't forget that without magic who heal Charles, I was thinking that at the end of the last chapter.

So Chelia beats Dimaria, and a rare win by a no FT mage good guy. Now that Chelia has no magic, they had to get her out of here, this a battle field, she is a sicking duck. Even footer can kill her.

And Ultear is still alive as the old lady. We thought so before, but I think this is her finale until the series epilogue. Great chapter.
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Yet another one hit KO. Boring.. Can we get a real fight please?
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It felt a bit underwhelming, but I guess that's because we all expected Wendy not to lose her magic. The fight was over too fast as well. Sherria did wreck her face though, so I guess that's fine since Dimaria was a bit annoying

Wendy's leg getting pierced was pretty painful to watch though.

Mar 7, 2016 5:28 AM
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Welp, there goes Dimaria xD, this seems way too easy...
Sherria cute as fuck, also dem bubies~
Losing one's magic power, am I supposed to feel anything?
Granny Ultear, goddammit.
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Dask said:
Yet another one hit KO. Boring.. Can we get a real fight please?


One Hit KO, the fuck?

Please.
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Losing one's magic power, am I supposed to feel anything?


Well, I think she was Wendy's friend as well as her rival, so she can no longer continue that. She'll also be forced to watch from the sidelines as all her mage friends continue on without her. No more missions, fighting, Magic Games, etc.. A bit sad when you think about it

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Lovely haters everywhere.
What an asspull right? A god slayer (has been introduced a long time ago) is beating a "god". This can't be!!


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Lovely haters everywhere.
What an asspull right? A god slayer (has been introduced a long time ago) is beating a "god". This can't be!!


Yup pretty much what I was saying last chapter.

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It was a decent chapter, I`m just disappointed that the fights don't have the umpf to them, the only really good fight this arc was Natsu vs Zeref. I really hope the next fights won't be so rushed and we`ll actually get to see some great choreography and not just attack spams.
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@Sensui Wouldn't mind Dimaria getting beat by Sherria if it was at least a longer fight, then again a longer fight might be boring too so I don't know..

@Olem Well she's still Wendy's friend so all's good there, this drama just seems a bit pointless.
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It felt a bit underwhelming, but I guess that's because we all expected Wendy not to lose her magic. The fight was over too fast as well. Sherria did wreck her face though, so I guess that's fine since Dimaria was a bit annoying

Wendy's leg getting pierced was pretty painful to watch though.


Pretty much I had thought as well. But still, I am glad that the two girls got their moments. Respect for Sherria especially this chapter. Ultear as well.
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Dask said:
Yet another one hit KO. Boring.. Can we get a real fight please?

I don't think you know how to count to one properly or you just missed several pages.
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Dask said:
Yet another one hit KO. Boring.. Can we get a real fight please?

I don't think you know how to count to one properly or you just missed several pages.


As well as the last chapter
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OMG natsu wake up Already, ur friends are having hard time and cant even fight for now and acnologia and zeref didnt show up yet, WAKE UP DAMNIT
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nerfx said:
@Sensui Wouldn't mind Dimaria getting beat by Sherria if it was at least a longer fight, then again a longer fight might be boring too so I don't know..

@Olem Well she's still Wendy's friend so all's good there, this drama just seems a bit pointless.


The loss of magic power IS pointless and doesn't make any sense. It's just to mask the asspull for idiots.
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I just don't take this "you'll never be able to use magic again' too seriously.


probably because if you've read his previous work you know that theres never any long term punishments to his characters. in Rave master there was only 1 death and that was an old man who had a couple months to live and he drank an elixir that costs your life-span

Anyway pretty much knew that only sherria would be the one to gain third origin even before they announced only 1 could do it, makes sense since its our first time seeing a god vs god slayer battle as well as the fact that wendy needs to keep her magic since she'll no doubt be necessary in the 7 v 1 battle gainst acnologia.

someone really needs to fix laxus.


See a lot of people just wanting the manga to end but should be pretty obvious were gonna have to watch the remaining of spriggan 12 either lose or convert to fairy tail mentality. Probably end up having zeref and natsu fight together against acnologia, have trouble imagining natsu destroying himself against zeref, maybe zeref give his power to natsu or some jazz giving him the strength to win and also live without zerefs existence.

strangely for someone who wanted a brother so badly that it caused 90% of this stories events to occur you'd think zeref would want to do some brotherly things i mean you could say his intent was to have natsu kill him but you know that wasn't his original intent since trying to bring someone to life is the reason he was cursed.

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OMG natsu wake up Already, ur friends are having hard time and cant even fight for now and acnologia and zeref didnt show up yet, WAKE UP DAMNIT


pretty sure you just answered why hes still asleep in your post alone. the main events haven't shown up yet and we know natsu is going to fight them can't fight a bunch of spriggan 12 then take on both the stories strongest characters. similar to DBZ where goku is in the health pod until freeza goes final form.
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Nice chapter !! <3
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Became older and get some magic power-up. Kinda like what
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I got Volume 52 of the manga recently and these are quotes from Mashima's afterword at the end of the book.

"Maybe this will even lead to the final battle with Zeref"
"The enemy boss charcaters are also the 12 strongest characters in the history of this series"

there's also a bit of talk about how 12 spriggan was too many but "there's a bit of a secret reason for it, so we finally decided on leaving it at 12"

So under these quotes I assume that this is our final arc afterall menaing that these are our final "boss" characters and if so then i want to know why is Mashima rushing them so much, if these are our final battles they should be more than just 1 or 2 chapters per fight.

hopefully whatever the secret reason is for having 12 will be good.

Volume 52 ends with chapter 446 and the preview for volume 53 says "Ragnarok the final battle begins" which would be teh current battle that we're all reading right now.

So yeah now with Acnologia even showing up, this is probably fairy tail's final arc.
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Behemoth11 said:
I just don't take this "you'll never be able to use magic again' too seriously.

Spot on. With the power of nakama anything impossible is possible.
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I got Volume 52 of the manga recently and these are quotes from Mashima's afterword at the end of the book.

"Maybe this will even lead to the final battle with Zeref"
"The enemy boss charcaters are also the 12 strongest characters in the history of this series"

there's also a bit of talk about how 12 spriggan was too many but "there's a bit of a secret reason for it, so we finally decided on leaving it at 12"

So under these quotes I assume that this is our final arc afterall menaing that these are our final "boss" characters and if so then i want to know why is Mashima rushing them so much, if these are our final battles they should be more than just 1 or 2 chapters per fight.

hopefully whatever the secret reason is for having 12 will be good.

Volume 52 ends with chapter 446 and the preview for volume 53 says "Ragnarok the final battle begins" which would be teh current battle that we're all reading right now.

So yeah now with Acnologia even showing up, this is probably fairy tail's final arc.


THe final battle with Zeref doesn't mean the final battle of the story. You're putting words in the man's mouth
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I just don't take this "you'll never be able to use magic again' too seriously.

This, I guess...

Be careful Cheria, yo're now magicless and defenseless in a battlefield
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Next chapter is called Transport, could be related to Jacob somehow...
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We will see about the permanent lost of magic...
But in the end, the battle, Ultear and third origin was handled better than I thought it would be few chapters ago.

Funny seeing the old Ultear peacefully sitting in some cottage and thinking what just happened. It's like when Naruto's shadow clone disappears and the original body gains experience and memory it had :D
Mar 7, 2016 8:08 AM
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She's totally cameo, ultear
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Why didn't surprised me that Wendy didn't lost her magic power?
Now I wanna know how the army'll react to Dimaria's loss?
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Since Mashima keeps on proving that sacrifices matter very little I'm not worried at all and because I simply don't give two craps about Chelia and Fodder 12 is supposed to be the biggest threat?

Here's the KO count: Serena Ajeel Dimaria Wahl and Brandish with a poorly written and out of nowhere heel face turn

That's 5 Spriggans in 18 chapters

This is a 1/5 chapter. I knew the Spriggans were doomed when Mashima opted to have 12 instead of 5
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Glad Wendy wasn't the one to lose her powers, and she bravely fought to the best of her ability (First time I saw Dragon Force be completely useless in a fight since the Twin Dragon Fight).

Pretty painful to see Wendy of all people though get shot through the leg and obtain wounds like that. Guess that's what happens with her fighting on the front lines now. Since Wendy wasn't the one to win this fight and she kept her powers, she'll probably face off against another opponent later in this arc.

Cherria's full god slayer powers were impressive and it was great we could finally see them up against an actual god. Even though I'm sad she's losing her magic because of Third Origin, I'm at least glad she lived. Looks like Ultear is still alive as an old woman out there, wonder if that will be the last time we see her.

Looking forward to see what happens next, since if I remember right Zeref is closing in on Fairy Tail, and Acnologia is somewhere close.

5/5
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Since Mashima keeps on proving that sacrifices matter very little I'm not worried at all and because I simply don't give two craps about Chelia and Fodder 12 is supposed to be the biggest threat?

Here's the KO count: Serena Ajeel Dimaria Wahl and Brandish with a poorly written and out of nowhere heel face turn

That's 5 Spriggans in 18 chapters

This is a 1/5 chapter. I knew the Spriggans were doomed when Mashima opted to have 12 instead of 5

Actually that's on Spriggan every 3.6 chapters, but at least I can say with the Wizard Saints out the Spriggans can say they have a win/step towards their goal now.
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Trentor11 said:
Since Mashima keeps on proving that sacrifices matter very little I'm not worried at all and because I simply don't give two craps about Chelia and Fodder 12 is supposed to be the biggest threat?

Here's the KO count: Serena Ajeel Dimaria Wahl and Brandish with a poorly written and out of nowhere heel face turn

That's 5 Spriggans in 18 chapters

This is a 1/5 chapter. I knew the Spriggans were doomed when Mashima opted to have 12 instead of 5

Actually that's on Spriggan every 3.6 chapters.


Gotta love math XDDD
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7 more spriggans left huh?
this is going faster than I expected.
guess Mashima will finally reveal the last 2 spriggans pretty soon.
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I don't really care about chapters like these. Both the chapters and the characters are uninteresting to me. I hope all the other spriggans die in 1 chapter and we get to see more of zeref and acnologia. They are the only interesting characters in the manga imo.
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Became older and get some magic power-up. Kinda like what


hoped she stayed as an older version of Cheria. Like she was cool at that moment.
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I don't really care about chapters like these. Both the chapters and the characters are uninteresting to me. I hope all the other spriggans die in 1 chapter and we get to see more of zeref and acnologia. They are the only interesting characters in the manga imo.


that's the problem of showing acnologia from the start of this arc/war, we all think about him because he is op and can beat anyone. The hype is too strong but it's sad some do not give a care for the spriggans anymore
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chapter was well done imo. having cheria and ultear go behind wendys back and have the god slayer defeat the god is fitting and keeps wendy in the game. my only gripe is the short fights but im sure theyll drag them out in the anime 5/5

oh and bring out gildarts soon pls
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Lucy-is-onemagic said:
lequack said:
I don't really care about chapters like these. Both the chapters and the characters are uninteresting to me. I hope all the other spriggans die in 1 chapter and we get to see more of zeref and acnologia. They are the only interesting characters in the manga imo.


that's the problem of showing acnologia from the start of this arc/war, we all think about him because he is op and can beat anyone. The hype is too strong but it's sad some do not give a care for the spriggans anymore

Yes I agree. That other girl's sacrifice this chapter seemed meaningless to me simply because I do not care about these characters anymore. But it does increase the hype for the final boss (acnologia) and this arc could turn out to be a great arc towards the end.
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AllenNoah said:
Trentor11 said:
Since Mashima keeps on proving that sacrifices matter very little I'm not worried at all and because I simply don't give two craps about Chelia and Fodder 12 is supposed to be the biggest threat?

Here's the KO count: Serena Ajeel Dimaria Wahl and Brandish with a poorly written and out of nowhere heel face turn

That's 5 Spriggans in 18 chapters

This is a 1/5 chapter. I knew the Spriggans were doomed when Mashima opted to have 12 instead of 5

Actually that's on Spriggan every 3.6 chapters, but at least I can say with the Wizard Saints out the Spriggans can say they have a win/step towards their goal now.


Bro 18 chapters is really really short. And the fact these were supposed to be the main antagonists?! That's underwhelming at its worst. 5 Spriggans were either beaten or turned to Fairy Tail's side in 18 chapters. I could understand 1 or 2 but FIVE?! You're joking right? And the Spriggans won't win because they've been thrashed with very little resistance. And they don't have a Hell's Gate like the demons to revive and grow more stronger

Add to the fact the Spriggans haven't really done anything. They've made no impact except Brandish's intro but look what happened her lol.

Were to be the biggest threat
Destroyed a country
Runs a country
Supposedly on Wizard Saint Level

Punked in 18 chapters.. Seriously many people would be laughing at this in fact I am right now

Dimaria got her ass handed to her by Chelia of all characters. Her fight with Wendy was decent but that was it. The Spriggans are one more embarrassing moment away from Avatar level lmao

But Zeref Natsu and Acnologia deserves some of the blame simply because they're the only three characters that are stealing the thunder and Natsu is barely lucid
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True, Acnologia always steals the thunder from other enemies lol.
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Actually that's on Spriggan every 3.6 chapters, but at least I can say with the Wizard Saints out the Spriggans can say they have a win/step towards their goal now.


Bro 18 chapters is really really short. And the fact these were supposed to be the main antagonists?! That's underwhelming at its worst. 5 Spriggans were either beaten or turned to Fairy Tail's side in 18 chapters. I could understand 1 or 2 but FIVE?! You're joking right? And the Spriggans won't win because they've been thrashed with very little resistance. And they don't have a Hell's Gate like the demons to revive and grow more stronger

Add to the fact the Spriggans haven't really done anything. They've made no impact except Brandish's intro but look what happened her lol.

Dimaria got her ass handed to her by Chelia of all characters. Her fight with Wendy was decent but that was it. The Spriggans are one more embarrassing moment away from Avatar level lmao


Mashima stated that they had originally planned for 5 or 6 Spriggans but he changed it to 12 for certain reasons, so hopefully when it comes down to that number, that is when they'll be truly fleshed out.

"And the fact these were supposed to be the main antagonists?!"

...main antagonists?

"Dimaria got her ass handed to her by Chelia of all characters."

What's wrong with that? Chelia is a god slayer and DiMaria had a god takeover so it is completely logical plus the move she used against DiMaria was said to be able to kill Wendy in GMG by Jellal. People complain when side characters don't get enough screen time and they also complain when the SC do get the screen time, jeez.
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Actually that's on Spriggan every 3.6 chapters, but at least I can say with the Wizard Saints out the Spriggans can say they have a win/step towards their goal now.


Bro 18 chapters is really really short. And the fact these were supposed to be the main antagonists?! That's underwhelming at its worst. 5 Spriggans were either beaten or turned to Fairy Tail's side in 18 chapters. I could understand 1 or 2 but FIVE?! You're joking right? And the Spriggans won't win because they've been thrashed with very little resistance. And they don't have a Hell's Gate like the demons to revive and grow more stronger

Add to the fact the Spriggans haven't really done anything. They've made no impact except Brandish's intro but look what happened her lol.

Dimaria got her ass handed to her by Chelia of all characters. Her fight with Wendy was decent but that was it. The Spriggans are one more embarrassing moment away from Avatar level lmao

I know. That was a sort of tongue in cheek remark since I would constantly talk about how the Spriggans have failed to achieve anything the entire war. I made a topic back during the fight between Natsu and Zeref asking if anybody still cared about the Spriggan and now I see that it was premature. I thought Ajeel, Brandish and the Baddbot was the worst we'd get. If I only knew...
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that's the problem of showing acnologia from the start of this arc/war, we all think about him because he is op and can beat anyone. The hype is too strong but it's sad some do not give a care for the spriggans anymore

Yes I agree. That other girl's sacrifice this chapter seemed meaningless to me simply because I do not care about these characters anymore. But it does increase the hype for the final boss (acnologia) and this arc could turn out to be a great arc towards the end.


Yeah lets hope it does
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Down goes another Spriggan. And now there are 7 left. I really liked how this chapter was done, a God slayer taking down the God was fitting. I know Erza and Kagura will face a Spriggan, but I wonder who will face the remaining 6.

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Bro 18 chapters is really really short. And the fact these were supposed to be the main antagonists?! That's underwhelming at its worst. 5 Spriggans were either beaten or turned to Fairy Tail's side in 18 chapters. I could understand 1 or 2 but FIVE?! You're joking right? And the Spriggans won't win because they've been thrashed with very little resistance. And they don't have a Hell's Gate like the demons to revive and grow more stronger

Add to the fact the Spriggans haven't really done anything. They've made no impact except Brandish's intro but look what happened her lol.

Dimaria got her ass handed to her by Chelia of all characters. Her fight with Wendy was decent but that was it. The Spriggans are one more embarrassing moment away from Avatar level lmao


Mashima stated that they had originally planned for 5 or 6 Spriggans but he changed it to 12 for certain reasons, so hopefully when it comes down to that number, that is when they'll be truly fleshed out.

"And the fact these were supposed to be the main antagonists?!"

...main antagonists?

"Dimaria got her ass handed to her by Chelia of all characters."

What's wrong with that? Chelia is a god slayer and DiMaria had a god takeover so it is completely logical plus the move she used against DiMaria was said to be able to kill Wendy in GMG by Jellal. People complain when side characters don't get enough screen time and they also complain when the SC do get the screen time, jeez.


"Chelia is a god slayer" couldn't careless. Natsu and the other dragon slayers could do a damn thing against the dragons and they all have better feats than Chelia.

She was a background character who barely had anything to her than being lolis with Wendy. She had little feats to suggest anything let alone take down Dimaria but the plot called which still makes very little sense. Your other argument still matter little considering Chelia didn't kill Wendy and Wendy got shot by DiMaria

Is she important in anyway? Why should Chelia deserve screentime?
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Mashima stated that they had originally planned for 5 or 6 Spriggans but he changed it to 12 for certain reasons, so hopefully when it comes down to that number, that is when they'll be truly fleshed out.

"And the fact these were supposed to be the main antagonists?!"

...main antagonists?

"Dimaria got her ass handed to her by Chelia of all characters."

What's wrong with that? Chelia is a god slayer and DiMaria had a god takeover so it is completely logical plus the move she used against DiMaria was said to be able to kill Wendy in GMG by Jellal. People complain when side characters don't get enough screen time and they also complain when the SC do get the screen time, jeez.


"Chelia is a god slayer" couldn't careless. Natsu and the other dragon slayers could do a damn thing against the dragons and they all have better feats than Chelia.

She was a background character who barely had anything to her than being lolis with Wendy. She had little feats to suggest anything let alone take down Dimaria but the plot called which still makes very little sense. Your other argument still matter little considering Chelia didn't kill Wendy and Wendy got shot by DiMaria

Is she important in anyway? Why should Chelia deserve screentime?


1) Maybe it's because dragon > 'gods' in this series

2) That wasn't DiMaria's strongest attack (then again we never saw what was) whereas that was Chelia's strongest attack which would be much more effective on DiMaria since she was a 'god' and combined with the magical levels obtained from Third Origin. Though it being able to kill Wendy is not a given, since a character's words are not always accurate.

3) Say that to the many people wanting side characters to have screen time on the other websites :/.
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