| games such as Neptunia, Life is strange etc ??? |
| I don't remember if Lara was a lesbian. I wouldn't complain either way though ~ |
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Sherlupin said: games such as Neptunia, Life is strange etc ??? Short Version: If you're wondering why lesbians are popping up more in media it's actually pretty simple. There's no reason for them to not exist. Long Version: I'm not sure about the relationships in Neptune and Life is Strange, but here's what I do know. When writers write all-girl shows or predominant female cast media they usually write themselves into a wall. Most writers have a theme or something they want to show, but that usually gets done pretty early in the work's lifecycle. Usually after time passes and the viewer and writer has learned to be attached to the characters, romance is included to spice things up. Rarely will the writer want to introduce new characters to do this though so the romance just happens between the girls. Honestly, most yuri relationships or undertone are about at this level. They stem from lazyness. Life is Strange is not all that well-written to be honest. The plot's incosistent and Max's powers are all over the place. It has a strong sense of tension and builds on the drama well though. The only reason lesbians happen in that is because almost all the male characters written in Life is Strange are terrible. |
| Neptunia? Typical fan service but nothing canon. I have played many console games and none have had lesbian protagonists. |
| Because the video-game community it's sexist. That it's the answer that you want? |
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LeeSakura said: Sherlupin said: games such as Neptunia, Life is strange etc ??? Ellie from The Last of Us too (¬_¬) Wasn't that like marketing or something? Weren't they going for them tumblr bucks XD. More seriously though, I think they were trying to make a point. The fact is that her sexuality doesn't define her, since you could not guess she was a lesbian until you played the DLC. The only problem I have with this, is the fact that Ellie was a tomboy. Tomboy's are usually shoved into the lesbian category for some reason. |
| I don't know? Who cares? Nobody has the answer too this? Literally what answer are you looking for because nobody can give it |
chokingasuka said: I don't know? Who cares? Nobody has the answer too this? Literally what answer are you looking for because nobody can give it you would have never said this if almost every male characters were gay. hypocrite. |
| I have to say I was a bit surprised to see the Fang x Vanille pairing in Final Fantasy XIII given how mainstream that series tends to be. However they are allowing same-sex "marriages" in the online XIV, so I guess Square-Enix has broadened its horizons. |
Sherlupin said: chokingasuka said: I don't know? Who cares? Nobody has the answer too this? Literally what answer are you looking for because nobody can give it you would have never said this if almost every male characters were gay. hypocrite. You're right, but you're also wrong. Most female characters are straight. When the character is a female LEAD, that's when they're most likely going to be gay. SeijiSensei said: I have to say I was a bit surprised to see the Fang x Vanille pairing in Final Fantasy XIII given how mainstream that series tends to be. However they are allowing same-sex "marriages" in the online XIV, so I guess Square-Enix has broadened its horizons. Square Enix hasn't really broadened their horizons. They're just caving to fan pressure since they have to go for mass appeal now. Fang X Vanille isn't romantic. In Lightning Returns they still call each other best friends XD. It's hilarious because thousands of years passed by, and they're still best friends. Anyways, Final Fantasy doesn't have a good track record for romance. The only good ones are 10 and maybe 7. 8 is pretty bad, and 9 and all the others are irrelevant romance wise. |
TitanAnteusFeb 11, 2016 1:59 PM
Sherlupin said: How you know that? You're calling people hypocrite just based on assumptions....chokingasuka said: I don't know? Who cares? Nobody has the answer too this? Literally what answer are you looking for because nobody can give it you would have never said this if almost every male characters were gay. hypocrite. |
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Sherlupin said: chokingasuka said: I don't know? Who cares? Nobody has the answer too this? Literally what answer are you looking for because nobody can give it you would have never said this if almost every male characters were gay. hypocrite. yeah you got me, you figured me out you really skewed me on this one, oh boy, im gonna delete my MAL account now, im ready to faint |
| @MODERATORS Please close this thread. OP has no intention of having a discussion with the people in it. |
TitanAnteus said: You're right, but you're also wrong. Most female characters are straight. When the character is a female LEAD, that's when they're most likely going to be gay. SeijiSensei said: I have to say I was a bit surprised to see the Fang x Vanille pairing in Final Fantasy XIII given how mainstream that series tends to be. However they are allowing same-sex "marriages" in the online XIV, so I guess Square-Enix has broadened its horizons. Square Enix hasn't really broadened their horizons. They're just caving to fan pressure since they have to go for mass appeal now. Fang X Vanille isn't romantic. In Lightning Returns they still call each other best friends XD. It's hilarious because thousands of years passed by, and they're still best friends. Anyways, Final Fantasy doesn't have a good track record for romance. The only good ones are 10 and maybe 7. 8 is pretty bad, and 9 and all the others are irrelevant romance wise. maybe, but i'm talking about recent games |
Sherlupin said: chokingasuka said: yeah you got me, you figured me out you really skewed me on this one, oh boy, im gonna delete my MAL account now, im ready to faint i would of said this either fucking way yeah right, keep talking why don't you liar.  thesarcasmisstrongwithyouyoungone |
| Because why the fuck not? Really man. |
| befriend (v.): To violently attack someone with very dangerous and extremely powerful blasts of magical pink light until your target sees the validity of your viewpoint. |
| and if all of them were straight someone would post "why aren't there any lesbian protagonists" |
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| Lesbians are approved by all but the oldest homophobic audiences but they often don't play games. |
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| Purest form of love. |
Sherlupin said: chokingasuka said: I don't know? Who cares? Nobody has the answer too this? Literally what answer are you looking for because nobody can give it you would have never said this if almost every male characters were gay. hypocrite. Hey, hey now young man. You can't assume things like that. As for me, I'm chill with Homosexual protagonists. Some of my favorite fictional male characters are gay. |
| Usually to push some kind of political agenda. There's no real reason to ever make protagonists gay, homosexuals are an extreme minority (3.6% of the total population I believe in the US) so pandering to such a crowd simply isn't profitable, nor does such a sexuality add to a game in any meaningful way. |
Toasty_One said: Hey, hey now young man. You can't assume things like that. As for me, I'm chill with Homosexual protagonists. Some of my favorite fictional male characters are gay. okay, but you can't deny that there are way more lesbians than gay characters in video games and anime. and the lesbians are more knowns than the gays |
Toasty_One said: Hey, hey now young man. You can't assume things like that. As for me, I'm chill with Homosexual protagonists. Some of my favorite fictional male characters are gay. okay, but you can't deny that there are way more lesbians than gay characters in video games and anime. and the lesbians are more knowns than the gays |
Sherlupin said: Toasty_One said: Hey, hey now young man. You can't assume things like that. As for me, I'm chill with Homosexual protagonists. Some of my favorite fictional male characters are gay. okay, but you can't deny that there are way more lesbians than gay characters in video games and anime. and the lesbians are more knowns than the gays Video games? sure, it's possible. Anime? I doubt it. |
| Because Yuri is Love Yuri is Life. even videogames knows that. |
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| Why not? Every video game should have yuri. |
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| because a female main character been straight is sexist and homophobic obviously. All empowered females need to be lesbians because they don't need no man. |
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Spooks said: because a female main character been straight is sexist and homophobic obviously. All empowered females need to be lesbians because they don't need no man. Pretty much. Straight females are weak while gay ones are stronk |
TitanAnteus said: Anyways, Final Fantasy doesn't have a good track record for romance. The only good ones are 10 and maybe 7. 8 is pretty bad, and 9 and all the others are irrelevant romance wise. Please don't forget FF VI... Locke x Celes is the best pairing in the FF Franchise. Anyway...I don't really care if there's lesbian protagonist in games...I love me some dem yuri action. The only game I have a problem is games with characters that are transexuals...because if you don't pay close attention to the story, you might get attached to a "girl", who's actually a guy (looking at you Nier's Kaine X_X ). |
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| Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth is a literal lesbofest. |
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Which one ??? Western or Eastern ?? pretty much most western gamer never heard about "Yuri" |
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Hidayat246 said: Which one ??? Western or Eastern ?? pretty much most western gamer never heard about "Yuri" Western games are invaded by american porn imagery and get their fair share of random lez/bi women without the help or influence of Japan. I'll just mention Mass Effect 2. |
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| we all know all women are bisexual :^) or I might have been watching too much hentai |
Clebardman said: Hidayat246 said: Which one ??? Western or Eastern ?? pretty much most western gamer never heard about "Yuri" Western games are invaded by american porn imagery and get their fair share of random lez/bi women without the help or influence of Japan. I'll just mention Mass Effect 2. Did you forget?? Shepard already become lesbian since Mass Effect 1 Even he become gay from Mass Effect 3 |
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Hidayat246 said: Clebardman said: Western games are invaded by american porn imagery and get their fair share of random lez/bi women without the help or influence of Japan. I'll just mention Mass Effect 2. Did you forget?? Shepard already become lesbian since Mass Effect 1 Even he become gay from Mass Effect 3 Actually, Mass Effect 2 took some huge backlash because every girl was bi except Mirada (I think) but there was 0 male homosexuality, that's why they fixed it in the third. To be honest, I played the game, and it was ridiculous. Most discussions felt like I was playing a yuri dating simulator. |
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| Portraying homosexuality is slowly becoming more accepted in the gaming industry (and in general in the western hemisphere). Most game developers and game writers are straight males, and their target audience is almost always straight males. Many (most?) straight males like lesbians; therefore lesbian protagonist = win for everyone involved (and by everyone I mean straight males). |
Clebardman said: Hidayat246 said: Did you forget?? Shepard already become lesbian since Mass Effect 1 Even he become gay from Mass Effect 3 Actually, Mass Effect 2 took some huge backlash because every girl was bi except Mirada (I think) but there was 0 male homosexuality, that's why they fixed it in the third. To be honest, I played the game, and it was ridiculous. Most discussions felt like I was playing a yuri dating simulator. Actually, while Femshep can flirt with Jack and Samara, it can go nowhere because they are not cool with it. The only legit lesbian romances are Liara and Chambers, the latter of which hardly counts as a romance. Your comments actually fit Dragon Age 2 a lot more. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Because most video games are primarily targeting a male audience and a lot of men find lesbians hot, just like a lot of women find gay males hot If the primary target audience had been women then we would have seen more gay male protagonists instead It's as simple as that Usually to push some kind of political agenda. There's no real reason to ever make protagonists gay, homosexuals are an extreme minority (3.6% of the total population I believe in the US) so pandering to such a crowd simply isn't profitable, nor does such a sexuality add to a game in any meaningful way. PleaseNot everything is a SJW conspiracy If anything a lot of SJWs would be against the inclusion of lesbians in video games "targeting a straight male audience" |
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insan3soldiern said: Clebardman said: Actually, Mass Effect 2 took some huge backlash because every girl was bi except Mirada (I think) but there was 0 male homosexuality, that's why they fixed it in the third. To be honest, I played the game, and it was ridiculous. Most discussions felt like I was playing a yuri dating simulator. Actually, while Femshep can flirt with Jack and Samara, it can go nowhere because they are not cool with it. The only legit lesbian romances are Liara and Chambers, the latter of which hardly counts as a romance. Your comments actually fit Dragon Age 2 a lot more. Liara doesn't count either |
| That's pretty neat, I didn't really notice! Been playing too many character select/create-based games, I guess. I suppose it has to do with what the majority of players like to see. I mean, when you put on a scale the amount of people who want to see female protag fall into the arms of A: cute girl, or B: some dude, I'd say the former carries more weight. |
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Valaskjalf said: insan3soldiern said: Actually, while Femshep can flirt with Jack and Samara, it can go nowhere because they are not cool with it. The only legit lesbian romances are Liara and Chambers, the latter of which hardly counts as a romance. Your comments actually fit Dragon Age 2 a lot more. Liara doesn't count either Why not? She clearly has a female appearance, even though she is supposedly "genderless". RiggeeRascal said: I mean, when you put on a scale the amount of people who want to see female protag fall into the arms of A: cute girl, or B: some dude, I'd say the former carries more weight. Exactly. |
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| Has anybody ever seen a good scripted homosexual romance in games? A lot of the time, most of them seem to be homosexual for the sake of being homosexual. |
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| The female video game protagonists that are lesbians are still in the minority, really. All things considered, a lot of writers are probably writing homosexual characters now because there weren't a lot before, and there was a demand for homosexual characters that they proceeded to fulfill. Because these relationships stand out to us, they're perhaps more scrutinized than other romances that came before. Some may not be well-written, but that's because a lot of romances aren't. Look at heterosexual romances in video games, most of those aren't well-written at all. That's largely because game designers aren't writers, and some studios could do with a writer or two on their team. |
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| Who's Neptune? Neptune from Sailor Moon or Neptune from Hyperdimension Neptunia? Since, Neptune from Hyperdimension Neptunia isn't a lesbian. Those are probably fanfics. As for the others, they're actually a minority. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| There is no such thing as Lesbians |
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Immahnoob said: Who's Neptune? Neptune from Sailor Moon or Neptune from Hyperdimension Neptunia? Since, Neptune from Hyperdimension Neptunia isn't a lesbian. Those are probably fanfics. As for the others, they're actually a minority. Please, Neptune obviously lusts after Noire's noires. |
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Immahnoob said: I'm pretty sure he means NepNep.Who's Neptune? Neptune from Sailor Moon or Neptune from Hyperdimension Neptunia? Since, Neptune from Hyperdimension Neptunia isn't a lesbian. Those are probably fanfics. As for the others, they're actually a minority. He said Neptunia. |
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