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Jan 31, 2016 8:29 AM
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Well that makes sense. We got a lot of flashbacks between Theodor and Lise this episode. In the meantime, we find out more about their personal lives. Theordor, why you hide those naughty magazines?

Is it just me or did the music get better for the fighting scenes? At least I thought so. The action was neat but also violent as usual. Lise's a cutie :3


Jan 31, 2016 10:30 AM
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Circe. ^_^

And finally an episode where the operation didn't end in 1 episode.
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A flashback after the encounter. And then teasing him in front of the other girls.


Can someone please explain the meaning of what Irisdina said about eating BETA corpse that's supposed to be a joke? Because I don't get it.
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I was shocked to see the little sister come into play so soon =o I really like her character as well as all of her interactions with Theodor both past and present....Sucks that she's most likely going to be a brainwashed spy though

The joint operation battle thing was pretty neat too....My only gripe with this episode was the megane during the battle, she was being so damn stubborn and annoying, but other than that it was good stuff

I have a question for LN readers though, is there going to be any romance type of stuff with Theodor and one of the girls? Because that teasing with Iris and blondes by Lise made me want to ship Iris with Theodor even more lol
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The pacing seemed better this episode. So far the operation seems decent.

4/5
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This anime gets better every episode.


Hugely underrated.
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Tokoya said:

I have a question for LN readers though, is there going to be any romance type of stuff with Theodor and one of the girls? Because that teasing with Iris and blondes by Lise made me want to ship Iris with Theodor even more lol

VN*

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Jan 31, 2016 11:53 AM
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Tokoya said:
I have a question for LN readers though, is there going to be any romance type of stuff with Theodor and one of the girls? Because that teasing with Iris and blondes by Lise made me want to ship Iris with Theodor even more lol




Requiem and Bernhard im Schatten have a much more heavy focus on romance.



Mascera said:
Can someone please explain the meaning of what Irisdina said about eating BETA corpse that's supposed to be a joke? Because I don't get it.


English are stereotyped as having horrible food, so of course they'd eat something as disgusting as BETA. Iris cracks a bunch of those so bad they're funny jokes throughout the LN.
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Xenocrisi said:
Tokoya said:

I have a question for LN readers though, is there going to be any romance type of stuff with Theodor and one of the girls? Because that teasing with Iris and blondes by Lise made me want to ship Iris with Theodor even more lol

VN*

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This was originally a LN, and then It was partially adapted to a VN (wich is not complete yet).
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Great_Manatee said:
Tokoya said:
I have a question for LN readers though, is there going to be any romance type of stuff with Theodor and one of the girls? Because that teasing with Iris and blondes by Lise made me want to ship Iris with Theodor even more lol


It's not really reciprocated until near the end, and by then it's a little too late for serious romance. I don't think Theo even gets to kiss a girl.

Requiem and Bernhard im Schatten have a much more heavy focus on romance.



Mascera said:
Can someone please explain the meaning of what Irisdina said about eating BETA corpse that's supposed to be a joke? Because I don't get it.


English are stereotyped as having horrible food, so of course they'd eat something as disgusting as BETA. Iris cracks a bunch of those so bad they're funny jokes throughout the LN.


Woah there, let's not get to there yet.

For this ep, this is pretty good so far, much better than Total Eclipse in my opinion.

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For this ep, this is pretty good so far, much better than Total Eclipse in my opinion.


Yeah, the pacing was pretty good this episode and the battle was way better than anything in TE. The first three episodes had me worried though, but if this is the pace they'll be using in the second half than everything should be fine.

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let's not get to there yet.


Go where?
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Itachi_0893 said:
Xenocrisi said:

VN*

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This was originally a LN, and then It was partially adapted to a VN (wich is not complete yet).

Oh really? I'm sorry.
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Great_Manatee said:
planetwarrior said:
For this ep, this is pretty good so far, much better than Total Eclipse in my opinion.


Yeah, the pacing was pretty good this episode and the battle was way better than anything in TE. The first three episodes had me worried though, but if this is the pace they'll be using in the second half than everything should be fine.

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let's not get to there yet.


Go where?


From what you're showing is a prequel to this, when ppl haven't finish this series yet.
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From what you're showing is a prequel to this, when ppl haven't finish this series yet.


Oh, didn't realize it was a spoiler. I grabbed it from the official twitter feed, and Age markets the prequel as a romance. Well, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. If it is, I'll delete it.

I don't think the anime will cover it though, and even if they do, they'll likely be enough changes where the prequel won't really matter anyways. Beatrix is much more of a bloodthirsty sadistic monster in the anime. Introducing parts of the prequel in the already limited timeframe would confuse the characterization of her thus far.

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@planetwarrior and @Great_Manatee put in spoiler the part about romance and parental image of Iris, you guys are estagando the anime


Alright
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I fully expected someone to die at some point in the episode. They seem to be showing enormous restraint so far.
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Imouto is suspicious as fuck

Megane chan has a big death flag.
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This anime gets better every episode.


Hugely underrated.


Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.
Jan 31, 2016 12:58 PM

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In terms of how I enjoy this anime it's a top 3 of the season for me(That is in terms of enjoyment solely).
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Schwarzesmarken going right on like a train.

"We all agree Theodor's sister is a spy, right?"
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Jan 31, 2016 1:12 PM

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So another character introduction and this time one that hate East Germans.
Well in any case it was interesting the see UN forces tho i have to say many countries and units where missing.
Well many countries supported West Germany during the cold war so it's understandable not all of them where mentioned.
Unit wise however the F-18 and the Tornado where mentioned but i am missing some other units which where new at that time and in use of European countries like the F-16 Falcon or the Harrier.

The F-4 wasn't mentioned this time so i din't expect the F-5(NF-5) or the F-104 to make an appearance, since they where talking about elite units.
That being said even if they are elite units this doesn't necessarily mean that they are using the latest models.
Mascera said:

Can someone please explain the meaning of what Irisdina said about eating BETA corpse that's supposed to be a joke? Because I don't get it.
Well it probably would have made more sense if they mentioned the French instead of the English.
But i think this joke is from the Japanese point of view, some English food seems very strange to them so they say the English eat everything.
Keep in mind that the joke might make less sense in the translation.
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I wonder... Could the 666th have deserted from the East in this operation?

Don't know too much about military stuff, but, let's suppose all of the 666th pilots agree on this, could they have deserted to West Germany or Usa?
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Mascera said:
A flashback after the encounter. And then teasing him in front of the other girls.


Can someone please explain the meaning of what Irisdina said about eating BETA corpse that's supposed to be a joke? Because I don't get it.

It was something like eating the corpse and she was joking that you wouldnt like that... unless you are English (saying that britannian food is as bad as eating an alien more or loess if I remember correctly that scene).
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I wonder... Could the 666th have deserted from the East in this operation?

Don't know too much about military stuff, but, let's suppose all of the 666th pilots agree on this, could they have deserted to West Germany or Usa?


Iris isn't really interested in doing that. We'll probably see what her and the 666th's end goals are in a couple of episodes.
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Pacing was much better this episode. I really enjoyed the lighthearted moments since it served as a much-needed tension breaker. I also found the battle scene to be quite exceptional and well done, portraying it as a much "larger" assault plan. It's great seeing them work well together now that everyone is much more comfortable.

This show is definitely underrated, since it gets better each episode. But as a LN reader, I still wish this show was 24 episodes to adapt the entirety of all the content.

Overall, superb episode.
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Captain Irisdina is far too perfect to ignore.
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Great_Manatee said:
Zahylon said:
I wonder... Could the 666th have deserted from the East in this operation?

Don't know too much about military stuff, but, let's suppose all of the 666th pilots agree on this, could they have deserted to West Germany or Usa?


Iris isn't really interested in doing that. We'll probably see what her and the 666th's end goals are in a couple of episodes.

Not about if they want to do it...but if they could do it.
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This week's ep was intense. That bitch with the glasses is starting to piss me off. Lise is still suspicious af. Just watched Total Eclipse last week and I can easily say this is 10x better than TE
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Not about if they want to do it...but if they could do it.


No. It's explained in the LN/VN that Gretel has their TSFs slaved to her system, so if anyone tries to run, she can just disable them, and Gretel, as this episode showed, is very patriotic. Assuming they managed to coral Gretel into their desertion, then they'd have the Werewolves, Beatrix's cutting edge elite TSF squadron, to deal with. Their primary job, apart from acting as a rescue force for entrapped NVA units, is to chase down deserters. Finally, assuming they managed to evade even the stasi, they'd still have to deal with the possibility of the DDR pressuring the west to hand them and their highly valuable TSFs back.
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Definitely my favorite episode so far.
Jan 31, 2016 3:31 PM
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Cr7_vi_Britannia said:
Tokoya said:
I have a question for LN readers though, is there going to be any romance type of stuff with Theodor and one of the girls? Because that teasing with Iris and blondes by Lise made me want to ship Iris with Theodor even more lol


There will be romance but....
Muv-Luv. That's all you need to know.



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I was shocked to see the little sister come into play so soon =o I really like her character as well as all of her interactions with Theodor both past and present....Sucks that she's most likely going to be a brainwashed spy though


not is ''brainwashing'', is ''mind broken''



Mascera said:
Can someone please explain the meaning of what Irisdina said about eating BETA corpse that's supposed to be a joke? Because I don't get it.


these are the famous unfunny jokes of Irisdina, they happen with great frequency in the light novels, the unfunny jokes is one of the characteristics of your character.
this was the first time that one of yours unfunny jokes was animated.
Not sure if I'm gonna click the spoiler tags but that's pretty sad TwT

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It's not really reciprocated until near the end, and by then it's a little too late for serious romance. I don't think Theo even gets to kiss a girl.

Requiem and Bernhard im Schatten have a much more heavy focus on romance.





English are stereotyped as having horrible food, so of course they'd eat something as disgusting as BETA. Iris cracks a bunch of those so bad they're funny jokes throughout the LN.


Woah there, let's not get to there yet.

For this ep, this is pretty good so far, much better than Total Eclipse in my opinion.
No idea who these two are but I'm guessing we'll be introduced to them soon?

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TSF PROONNNN

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I'm so happy =3
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Tokoya said:
No idea who these two are but I'm guessing we'll be introduced to them soon?


They've already been introduced. Both of them even show up in the OP. You might not recognize them at first, but it'll become obvious if you look for it.
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Solid episode it was. Don't know why, but I have a feeling imouto's no good. But maybe not, who knows. The battle was pretty good.


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Tokoya said:
No idea who these two are but I'm guessing we'll be introduced to them soon?


is the crazy woman of Stasi



WOOOOOOOOOT. You are joking right?

The one in the cover look so innocent with those eyes!! If its real, total mind blow here!!
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WOOOOOOOOOT. You are joking right?

The one in the cover look so innocent with those eyes!! If its real, total mind blow here!!


No, he's not joking. That's Beatrix.
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WOOOOOOOOOT. You are joking right?

The one in the cover look so innocent with those eyes!! If its real, total mind blow here!!


She's the main love interest and heroine of the prequel.



Anime Beatrix is different from VN Beatrix though, even down to the way she speaks (click here for a sample: http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/wac/index.htm?process=7&escurl=../character10_esc.html /by the way, if anyone wants translations, just ask), so we can't really go off of the VN/LNs when judging the anime's version.

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It is also one of the supporters of this theory


I could see it happening. The character in question was ruthless enough where he almost shot somebody on the suspicion she might have been a spy. And even if she wasn't, it'd be a real pain in the ass to have to drag her back to base.
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Cr7_vi_Britannia said:


It is also one of the supporters of this theory


Am I the only one that hopes this theory would end up as false? I mean, I could see it happening, but that doesn't mean I would actually like it.
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Tokoya said:
No idea who these two are but I'm guessing we'll be introduced to them soon?


They already appear, Beatrix and Irisdina's brother who she shot. The pictures is from a prequel novel of this show.
Jan 31, 2016 7:32 PM

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Circe Steinhoff is here:

Can't wait to see her and Theodor meet each other. I am really excited with how the story's going.
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Imouto is suspicious as fuck

Megane chan has a big death flag.
I'm not that suspicious towards Theodor's Imouto, not yet. But about Megane chan's death Flag, I completely agree about that.
And thank's to everyone for explaining about Irisdina's joke. I guess I get the meaning of it.
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Excellent episode mixing both a reunion between two characters and some good action. Always enjoyed the strategic anti-BETA operations of Muv-Luv.

I honestly expected someone from squad 666 to die right at the end to the artillery fire. Someone like Jeckeln who probably dreams of politics at night and seems angry most of the time. I wouldn't want her as my commander(who would?)... Thank goodness for Irisdina.
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As someone who comes from a socialist country, I actually understand why she's that salty. The more you love your country, the more you will hate the fact that everyone is looking down on your countries and treat your people like some irrelevant idiots. Even now, it's easier to antagonize ex-communist or communist countries.

Sigh...this is the thing that you wont understand if you dont experience it.
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Alright Alright Alright misic gets better
Nice episode 4/5
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"Oder-Neisse Line" track made its epic debut. In addition to that, some awesome TSF porn as well, even in the form of some F-14s. I didn't expect the Phoenix missile system to be featured in the form of cluster munitions, however, its deadliness was unquestionable.

The political officer got a healthy dose of reality, thankfully...
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As someone who comes from a socialist country, I actually understand why she's that salty. The more you love your country, the more you will hate the fact that everyone is looking down on your countries and treat your people like some irrelevant idiots. Even now, it's easier to antagonize ex-communist or communist countries.

Sigh...this is the thing that you wont understand if you dont experience it.


Hey, I get her but let's be real here, if she would've had her way at least half of squad 666(if not all of 'em) would've died then & there to the artillery fire. Their pride took a hit, but she should just consider the trade-off here: it's that vs loosing to chance to further fight for her Fatherland. Lives are on the lines here.

Irisdina played her cards really nicely there mentioning that the loss of squad 666 would be a far greater "treason" to the country. :P
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My favourite episode from this serie so far :)
It was kind of funny to watch it,because my sister lives in Gdansk lol
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soluuloi said:
As someone who comes from a socialist country, I actually understand why she's that salty. The more you love your country, the more you will hate the fact that everyone is looking down on your countries and treat your people like some irrelevant idiots. Even now, it's easier to antagonize ex-communist or communist countries.

Sigh...this is the thing that you wont understand if you dont experience it.


Hey, I get her but let's be real here, if she would've had her way at least half of squad 666(if not all of 'em) would've died then & there to the artillery fire. Their pride took a hit, but she should just consider the trade-off here: it's that vs loosing to chance to further fight for her Fatherland. Lives are on the lines here.

Irisdina played her cards really nicely there mentioning that the loss of squad 666 would be a far greater "treason" to the country. :P


Yeah, she was out of her mind. It's also true that West German did look down on East German even after the collapse of The Wall of Berlin.

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Great_Manatee said:
jhoson14 said:

WOOOOOOOOOT. You are joking right?

The one in the cover look so innocent with those eyes!! If its real, total mind blow here!!


She's the main love interest and heroine of the prequel.



Anime Beatrix is different from VN Beatrix though, even down to the way she speaks (click here for a sample: http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/wac/index.htm?process=7&escurl=../character10_esc.html /by the way, if anyone wants translations, just ask), so we can't really go off of the VN/LNs when judging the anime's version.

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The thing that annoys me the most in the anime. They basically removed whatever sympathy she had left for the viewer. I can just hope it doesn't reach "akame ga kill" villian tier...
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