| Title says it all. No studio other than MAPPA has had as many anime butchered using poor CGI. Anything close to a decent sized % of people (20% or more) who think the CGI is bad is a massive misstep for mappa. And no, the argument " but they have to use CGI " is not a reasonable argument. MAPPA chose to use CGI. The creators of the show chose this. |
CickNipollaOct 11, 2022 7:31 PM
deg said: reminder that 3DCG is always use in majority of anime this days to speed up production, MAPPA is too busy like they also gonna release soon Attack on Titan Finale, Vinland Saga S2 and Jujutsu Kaisen S2 big studios use it to rush out an anime yes. doesnt make it the right call. you dont see kyoto putting out clunky ass cgi to make sure they can release 8 anime a year. same with studio trigger |
| holy cow the csm bots just went god mode. in less than 2 minutes it went from a 30-70 split to 60-40 lol |
| I don't mind the use of CGI in general but I think it looked a little clunky in this episode. |
GabrielCri said: adeeb91 said: oh hey that username seems familiar, wonder where i’ve seen it Isn't he the one who said the characters are pseudo-seinen? I also think he said about finding the cgi in the preview episode bad... i got a pre-screening of ep 1. mentioned how it was pretty bad cgi. looks like a lot of people agreed |
| Anyone who thiks CGI adds to something is tripping or is blind as fuck. It is a technique to save time and budget that's all. 2D animation will always be superior no matter what. |
| It adds to the quality. The movements are more fluid and smoother for the chainsaw man revving it up. Props to Mappa. They are working smarter not harder. They are cranking out production a lot quicker with other projects being piled up. I say they are saving themselves extra work and doing what's convenient of them. |
NaroomakiOct 11, 2022 8:42 PM
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Rishun_97 said: Anyone who thiks CGI adds to something is tripping or is blind as fuck. It is a technique to save time and budget that's all. 2D animation will always be superior no matter what. Studio Orange??? HELLO??? |
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DIA133 said: Pixar, that same studio that gets an Oscar blowjob every year and inexplicably scores victories over masterpieces like Kimi no Na wa and Koe no Katachi? Interesting. And also, studio orange is mid at best.Rishun_97 said: Anyone who thiks CGI adds to something is tripping or is blind as fuck. It is a technique to save time and budget that's all. 2D animation will always be superior no matter what. Studio orange and Pixar would like a word with u. |
adeeb91 said: yeah I also remember that usernameoh hey that username seems familiar, wonder where i’ve seen it |
| The cgi isnt bad why tf is everyone so mad 😭 |
DIA133 said: Rishun_97 said: Anyone who thiks CGI adds to something is tripping or is blind as fuck. It is a technique to save time and budget that's all. 2D animation will always be superior no matter what. Studio orange and Pixar would like a word with u. I think CGI anime that is entirely CGI is fine, and even has the potential to be great. Something designed to be wholly CGI in style works very well! I even think small CGI supplements can be used in 2D works. But when CGI is used to manufacture the chief action/dynamic parts of a 2D work, it is very clear to anyone watching with a brain that this a crutch to get around having to animate it in 2D. I just thing it's aesthetically unpleasing, and a better balance could probably be struck - but most times I see it, like here in CSM where the central transformed Chainsaw Man is a CGI model, it just doesn't mesh well and looks kinda weird and jarring. |
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Rishun_97 said: Anyone who thiks CGI adds to something is tripping or is blind as fuck. It is a technique to save time and budget that's all. 2D animation will always be superior no matter what. Both styles are valid, it's all in the execution. Either can look terrible if it's done sloppily. The integration in the first episode of CSM wasn't super seamless in my opinion and it stood out negatively for me, but that doesn't mean CGI is inherently inferior. |
jobran said: Rishun_97 said: Anyone who thiks CGI adds to something is tripping or is blind as fuck. It is a technique to save time and budget that's all. 2D animation will always be superior no matter what. Both styles are valid, it's all in the execution. Either can look terrible if it's done sloppily. The integration in the first episode of CSM wasn't super seamless in my opinion and it stood out negatively for me, but that doesn't mean CGI is inherently inferior. Exactly. I think Pixar and Studio Orange produce great works animation wise. I think if you design an anime that is ENTIRELY in CGI, that is great and something that can be great. Even when the CGI can be a little more jank (Kemono Friends), that can even still work fine because of the totality of the aesthetic and that everything in the canvas works together. I've long thought though that a mostly 2D anime, where the central complicated pieces (say, all mecha produced in the 2010s and onward, or Chainsaw Man in this anime) become CGI and work isn't put in to make it aesthetically blend - the results feel subpart and at odds. |
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| Yeah CGI can suck a big cock, the only good cgi anime is Houseki |
DIA133 said: CGI in anime is meant to mimic 2D style with less effort and time that would be used when doing all in 2D. That logic and comparison don't translate to western animation, in which shows can either be made entirely in CGI or 2D. Western animations are not meant to mimic anything in the first place, they have their own style that are already accepted by the public. You don't break your immersion in every action scene because of CGI if everything is CGI.Rishun_97 said: Pixar, that same studio that gets an Oscar blowjob every year and inexplicably scores victories over masterpieces like Kimi no Na wa and Koe no Katachi? Interesting. And also, studio orange is mid at best. i mean i have more examples. Biggest one, Arcane. We've also got DreamWorks and Illumination. and for more anime Toei just did real good on DBS Super Hero. |
| CGI looks clunky and could use a bit more blending honestly. Very fluid so I'd say it's still great, but lesser than expected. It would be interesting to see it weekly after Bleach's more polished animation and cgi. |
| CGI is not always bad in anime, feel like that should be obvious. ufotable uses CGI perfectly, and the rebuild movies use it pretty well. MAPPA is just cheap and cant do it well, ruining most anime they touch with cgi |
Nik03178 said: CickNipolla said: Title says it all. No studio other than MAPPA has had as many anime butchered using poor CGI. Anything close to a decent sized % of people (20% or more) who think the CGI is bad is a massive misstep for mappa. And no, the argument " but they have to use CGI " is not a reasonable argument. MAPPA chose to use CGI. The creators of the show chose this. Disagreed with the first line, most of the cgi used by mappa in various anime has been high quality and no anime was butchered. Stop posing your shitty opinion and hatred towards a studio as a fact. Step out from this forum and twitter and one realizes that the cgi used by mappa has been so good that most of the general audience can't even tell the difference. You all can keep trying to create useless threads like these. Nothing changes the fact that the episode was fire. give good examples of mappa cgi |
| Mappa has some of the best (if not the best) cgi integrated in 2d |
 Steins;Gate and AoT good Demon Slayer bad |
CickNipolla said: Title says it all. No studio other than MAPPA has had as many anime butchered using poor CGI. Anything close to a decent sized % of people (20% or more) who think the CGI is bad is a massive misstep for mappa. And no, the argument " but they have to use CGI " is not a reasonable argument. MAPPA chose to use CGI. The creators of the show chose this. Why is there no middle answer? I think the chainsaw man himself would look better in 2d, but I'm completely fine with the 3d backgrounds. |
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