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Nov 25, 2008 3:06 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Rawr, stop that crazy women. She can't go anywhere with only 9 Jewel's right?
Dec 20, 2008 10:10 PM
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That's one huge bitch!!
May 20, 2009 3:50 PM
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Poor Fate-chan. =( Precia should feel lucky to have a daughter like her.

Awesome battle, though. ;D (This is my 2nd time watching, btw...)



Jun 30, 2009 3:48 AM
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So fates a clone.. explains the name. Good episode.. and badass fight.
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Aug 2, 2009 1:54 AM
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Nice fight in the first half, totally blew me away. Nanoha's growth can really be seen (even though it's only 11 episodes). Although it seemed really easy for Nanoha to come up with new attacks, so does she just have to image the attack and the raging heart does it for her?
Jun 15, 2010 4:01 PM
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Wow, that was a long evil laugh at the end there.
Jul 3, 2010 5:29 AM
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saxophone15 said:
Wow, that was a long evil laugh at the end there.

This.
Also this episode blew my mind Fate was just a clone ? poor her >.<?


Sep 28, 2010 4:28 AM
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Well that was a shocker...at least Feito can finally let go of that crazy mother of hers now.
Apr 5, 2011 3:44 PM
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Nice fight!!!! Though Nanoha's attack names are a bit lame
I can't believe that Fate's a clone!!!! =O
Jun 5, 2011 10:58 PM

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Definitely my favorite episode so far. So damn good! We get the great battle at the beginning ("KAME-HAME-HA!") and evil, complete psycho bitch Precia dropping the bomb on everyone that Fate's a doll, and then being a complete monster to her. Geez! Some one really should've turned off that comm link.

Jun 9, 2011 3:46 AM

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I feel pity for precia but those hurtful words she said to fate is too much.
Jul 4, 2011 9:11 PM

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Poor Fate. D:
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Nov 9, 2011 9:36 PM

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musicalsushi said:
Nice fight!!!! Though Nanoha's attack names are a bit lame


... Have you ever heard an attack name in a Magical Girl anime that sounded really good? Sailor Moon is my favorite anime, but the attack names... well they kinda suck. "Starlight Honeymoon Therapy Kiss!? A little odd... (Still love the show)

Oct 9, 2012 9:51 PM

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Come on Precia, everyone knows human transmutation is strictly forbidden; and that evil laugh near the end started to agitate me a little...
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Oct 27, 2012 9:33 PM

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Precia's laugh went on forever.
Oct 31, 2012 7:33 PM

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Oh my, that was quite an epic fight!

It's strange for a magical girl show to have better fights than most shonen.
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May 2, 2013 4:40 AM

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Plot twist! Wasn't expecting that, Alicia came out of nowhere
May 6, 2013 3:28 PM

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the mother's english voice sounds like a pack a day smoker... and that laugh xD i was waiting for her to start coughing.

"AHAHAHAHA *COUGH COUGH COUGH* *GAG* *COUGH COUGH COUGH* "AHAHAHAHA!"
Jul 1, 2013 4:57 PM

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Damn, Precia just enjoys torturing Fate physically and mentally.
Jul 4, 2013 5:21 PM

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It's getting series now! Shocking twist about Fate, maybe she'll switch sides now. Nanoha's fight was beastly.
Sep 28, 2013 12:30 AM

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So Fate's a clone of Alicia who is dead (and not coming back because the past no matter what magic is used, cannot be brought back according to Chrono) and the Alicia's mom who is certifiable crazy will attempt to do it anyway with just 9 Jewels. Oh one bigger crisis coming up! XD The excitement since the TSAB warship showed up continues.
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Dec 29, 2013 5:14 PM

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So it was gamble..makes sense for the TSAB/Nanoha. Given that those were explained, the fact that why Fate got to keep hers wasn't explained means there is no reason within the show, so lazy writer, director..who ever was ultimately responsible.

And why didn't Chrono go with the enforces right away? "Precia is really strong, she has 9 jewels seeds in her posession, and we don't know anything about her location or what she was doing the last twenty years..we surely won't neeed all strength we have.."

Sure, we only see the unnamed guys always fail because shows are all about the named characters, they surely are perfectly capable of doing their job when there is nobody watching, but why the hell does Chrono interfere in the fight between Nanoha and Fate, and later again after the last six seeds were sealed - in both cases there was less at stake, especially in the first case, with only a minor disturbance - but now that they can get 9 seeds and the culprit behind Fate's actions, he stays at the ship? Only to go alone now, despite knowing that he is weaker than Nanoha or Fate - and therefore surely weaker than Precia.

I hope they stop ignoring facts they made up themself and start applying logic. They simply could have send him along with the others, and called the others back because it was clear they wouldn't be able to help etc. Heck, they could have showed him arriving a bit later because he kept talking to Nanoha etc, or somewhere else in the castle because of dimensional disturbance. Same result, but without ignoring logic etc. This show is already some years old, but script writers and directors still continue do such things today despite it often being that easy to avoid it.
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Mar 21, 2014 7:04 AM

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Ehh didn't that bastard mother say 9 won't get them to Alhazard? The power of desperation increases her magic tenfolds? This is kind of getting stupid.
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May 12, 2014 2:47 PM

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Build Up towards the end has started, quite nice development!
Apr 29, 2015 11:02 PM

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kiwigreeneyes said:
musicalsushi said:
Nice fight!!!! Though Nanoha&#039;s attack names are a bit lame


... Have you ever heard an attack name in a Magical Girl anime that sounded really good? Sailor Moon is my favorite anime, but the attack names... well they kinda suck. "Starlight Honeymoon Therapy Kiss!? A little odd... (Still love the show)

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Jul 13, 2019 3:11 AM

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But this bitch is OP.. Man, this seems unbelievable, lol..
Well.. Isn't it even better?.. That for "mother" Fate was just a created doll?.. Fate can just start from new, without holding back to that bitch, who only abused her.. Yeah, it might be hard for her, but maybe it's even better this way to learn the truth about your creation.. But well.. There is no such thing as objective "better", "worse".. We just need to hope that Fate gets care, love, attention and stuff, and will be able to live, as it's affecting her much.. Well, let's see, if she'll have time for that..
Apr 16, 2022 2:37 PM
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aero said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Rawr, stop that crazy women. She can't go anywhere with only 9 Jewel's right?


Indeed, I was like, this bitch really lost it now lol.
The truth about Fate origins was a surprise and quite sad, but nothing justifies the suffering she has gone through, if only Alicia was alive to bitch slap this bitch...

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I feel pity for precia but those hurtful words she said to fate is too much.


Yeah, it was quite disheartining to see Fate's eyes to gloss out like that, poor girl.
Sep 6, 2023 8:52 AM
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This show really treads the line between being cringe and good really well.
May 22, 7:10 PM
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The reveal with Fate was great. Poor girl... what a way to switch sides. I look forward to seeing how this plays out alongside the need to stop Presea! I hope we get some downtime for Fate and Nanoha to become proper friends. Emotionally charged magical duels are only one part of developing a healthy anime friendship!
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Nanoha is your winner in spectacular fashion.

It’s amazing how far she has come & how good she has gotten.

We learn about Alicia & Fate’s cruel fate.
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