Monogatari Series: First Season
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ----------------------------------------  Wow, that was a long conversation with Mayoi (who keeps reminding me of QB and Ryouko's voice) and Gahara-san (who seems to have found a new hobby of playing with sharp pencils). Anyway, it looks like Koyomi will finally be able to find Mr. Kaiki thanks to Shinobu's help and hopefully, there'll be plenty of actions in the next episode. |
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| That episode was essentially the best episode so far. The sheer amount of bad-ass moments, paralleled with great development. Oh, and the further accentuated characterization of Aragagi and Senjougahara's relationship is always welcome; along with the incredibly awesome introduction of the instrumental of the first opening playing in an "emotional" scene. Yeah, great episode. |
mdzFeb 11, 2012 1:44 PM
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| Hitagi will always scare me when she's around sharp objects, Koyomi was dodging some of them that she threw at him. Mayoi seems to take up the episodes she's in with very long but great dialog. Shinobu is take home cute in the white dress. |
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| Nice talks between Koyomi and Mayoi. Gahara-chan is preparing weapons!! Pencil towers are so full of arts. And that pose when she dodge the Hanakawa-sama topic!! That was epic! Ghost Buster Kaiki! I LOL'ed!!! Oh. So she tsundere'd? Birth of the new verb in this world. Wow. I have to love Koyomi's resolution of his love for Hitagi and his sisters that is expressed in his words. Hitagi is right, he's damn cool. So Shinobu is tsundere-ing too. This arc is quite long. I thought it would end at Episode 6 but it did not. |
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| Nise is so good that I always think the episode ended in 10 minutes. The dialogue really captures your attention. |
| I really liked this episode. LOL, Mayoi was disappointed. Hitagi continues to demonstrate violent tendencies and a fondness for sharp objects. When she asked Koyomi the 'hypothetical' question regarding an 'accident' and 100 pencils, I was visualizing a certain con-man turned into a pencil holder. Very curious as to what hold Tsubasa has over her, if it really is just a threat to take Koyomi from her. |
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| Ok... bake was awesome because it had the right amount of dialog and story progression (an average of 4 ep per girl if i remember correctly). Taking 6 episodes to just postulate the problem is rather overkill... I'm not saying this haven't been fun, but this seriously needs to start moving forward -.- I haven't read the novel so i'm sure if the Karen Bee is only problem to be solved in this story, but I honestly hope they add something else with other characters as well. It was nice to see Koyomi man up in front of Hitagi like that. Its nice to see more of Shinobu and It sure was fun when Mayoi got mad for not been sexually harassed |
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| awesome episode, like always. The part with hitagi was funny and what araragi said to her was touching Shinobu was epic and really can't wait for next ep, where the hell is karen??!?? the animation is flawless like always ^^ |
| I want a loli vampire who gives me a hand when I need help. |
| A episode with Senjougahara in it is always interesting. Just her conversations make it worth watching still the way she was talking it seems she never met Araragi's sisters which means we will get to see a interesting meeting in the future. Mentioning to Araragi that he won't get any rust tonight is a nice and daring sentence and leaves allot up to the imagination. I wonder if Araragi will get any rest at all then since he also has to look for his sister. And who knows what Karen will be up to it might be revenge it might be other things but in her current condition she should not be able to do much. Hope Araragi finds her fast. |
| Any episode that has Araragi/Senjougahara banter is a 5/5 in my book anyday. |
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| Araragi's and Senjougahara's conversations are what I love most about this series :D They never fail to enjoy me~ So, great ep as always, hope some action is included next ep |
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| The only words that can really describe Nise are "I love it." |
| Dear Math, I'm not a therapist. Solve your own problems. Oh, and Algebra? Stop asking us to find your ex, she's NEVER coming back. |
| No kiss.. Well, it was to be expected. :[ I liked this. Nise needs more Gahara! |
| Wow. Just wow. Too much win in one episode! Squealing in delight in public :] Mayoi anti-anti-harassment + no doesn't mean no wut wut?, pencil scene + gorgeous Senjougahara, awesome speech, shinobu tsundere! Awwww Guuuuushhhhh! BWAHAHAHAHHA NEED MORE! <3 |
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| Great episode~ I loved the Mayoi & Gahara~ |
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| Not surprised that they left out the kiss since the fanservice regarding Karen which many people claimed to be "incestious" was very tamed to begin with compared to what we're used to when it comes to this series. I'm aware that I begin to sound like a broken recourd but I can't refrain from praising the eye candy that is delivered here as the visuals of this show never cease to fill me with joy whenever I lay my eyes on them. No other studio knows how to handle lightning better than SHAFT. Also, using the pencils to form several formations was a nice touch. They are a weapon for Hitagi, sharp and lethal, truly fitting for someone as deliciously homicidal as her. At one moment they form a building symbolizing the shelter she intends to grant Koyomi, only for it to collapse when he proposes to expand it to mutual protection therefore breaking the shell which Hitagi build up to make herself invulnerable by making it partly unnecessary. So, Hitagi claims that she wouldn't be herself anymore if she forgave the con men as Koyomi proposed? It's unsettling to know that her whole personality may be absorbed by the desire of revenge and hatred towards these men that she is intending to go on a campaign of vengeance ala Kill Bill. On the other hand she might have just "tsundere-ed" as she phrased it herself and that her first concern was to protect her boyfriend. It's quite ambiguous as I see it. I assume the foreshadowing Hitagi mentioned revolves around cutting her hair since I don't think it's a coincidence that she mentioned Tsubasa cutting hers in the same sentence who supposedly did it in order to move forward and settle things with her past. Most probably because of a broken heart. Koyomi's banter with Hachkuji about growing-up and adulthood was pretty nice and on another note, it looks like Kaiki used reverse pyschology on Hitagi when giving her his business card. Such a sleazy bastard. |
EudaimoniaFeb 11, 2012 12:06 PM
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| Such a good episode! First, awesome encounter with Hachikuji, and then an incredible scene with Hitagi, just to end up with Shinobu <3 Can't wait for the next one. 6/5 |
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| Oh wow when Mayoi declared that she wants to be sexually harassed I was totally off guard. That was quite something I did not think Mayoi would admit to. So it means she does mind you doing anything sexual to her? I wonder what made her become like that? Was it for play or does she have a love interest in Araragi. Is so solely developed by being saved by him or in the course of the time passed in this series? Questions and questions still arise. About Mayoi, well at first it looked strange as she was like that but I assume it was browsing around that store’s board. However as the sequence in the spoiler  one think I do liker of Mayoi is the MOE she creates and her serious tones. What does make me RAGE is most know of her fan service. It comes down to all that. Nothing more nothing less. That's why I can say I much more enjoyed her character in this episode. Another good visual is when they change the colour around Mayoi and Araragi in the spoiler About Hitagi, her pencils being in forms like this one here and that one here made me scratch my head as to a meaning of them and if anyone can guess so be it. Please do answer as I want to know too of there are any meanings. Regardless of that somehow Hitagi was sexy in the spoiler Hitagi looked nice holding the card like that. I was surprised she did not throw it away. The head tilting part of Hitagi here had its charms, seems that was done before. I did get interesting in the pencil changing shape into a pyramid here. To me however it was more to connect with the “Pyramid scheme” with Kaiki’s scams. What really got to me is Hitagi in the following,  With how it all went in the spoiler I do find that scene 1, scene 2, and scene 3 do a most interesting job in showing Hitagi and a dilemma of hers. I am still a little confused as to its meaning exactly. What I am not confused of is how sexy those poses of Hitagi are in the spoiler Hitagi’s poses with her faces in the spoiler the telescope part here was hilarious. About thee end, the fact that Karen still barely having recovered escapes and Tsukihi is sick worried in the spoiler I admit I love using my brain power in this episode. It was intellectually stimulating to say the least. BTW GIFs are done in the club: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=401809 Among them Hitagi avatars. |
Yumekichi11Feb 11, 2012 6:17 PM
| "i want to restart from save point!" with a save stone near there xD not much movement during this episode, except the end, both hachijiku and senjogahara's talk time was introspective but not much revealing |
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| Awesome episode with great dialogues. All my favorite chars from the show did shine in the episode (even Hanekawa, though she did not appear visually, still won the day.) All I can say: I'm satisfied! |
| Awesome episode, how can there already be 2 hates for it? while in any case BringDownTheSun said: Any episode that has Araragi/Senjougahara banter is a 5/5 in my book anyday. This, and adding Shinbou "tsundere" at the end was a major plus as well. Citrix said: What in the world could Hanekawa have done to make Hitagi so.submissive Her intellect is scary enough to make someone who can kill with pencils bow? because i doubt that her just saying she will take away Araragi like Hanekawa teased about would bring that reaction, all though it may factor into it if Senjougahara was insecure about being able to "beat" Hanekawa. I guess what i read on these forums was true, Karen's arc is way longer than Tsukihi's arc, so even if it ends next episode it would be 7-4. So did Araragi actually kiss Karen and they didn't show it, or did he use another method to take away half of the illness? Oh a little side question, does anyone know how long this takes place after the events of Bakemonogatari? they may have said it but with all the dialogue i forgot. |
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| I just love Nise. I wonder did Senjou turn Karen into a vampire. And just love her conversations with Araragi,they so funny:D |
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| lololol mayoi ftw. very interesting and hilarious conversation between her and araragi, although i wish there were more mispronunciations and sexual harassment (even though kanbaru taught araragi his lesson xD ) SENJOUGAHARA IS FINALLY BACK TO ACTUAL SCREEN TIME!!! THE PENCILS WERE SO BADASS, CONSTANTLY MOVING AROUND AND WHATNOT ._. REALLY HOPING TO WATCH HER BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF KAIKI >:D still wondering what the hell is going on between her and hanekawa though :S is senjougahara REALLY that scared that hanekawa will take araragi? i would be, too D: and cant wait to see how that cliffhanger turns out. looking forward to the conclusion of karen bee |
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| as usual good ep with high quality dialogs. |
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| Mayoi Edogawa destroyed my life. Any way, SO MUCH RAGE at not knowing when the toothbrush scene is exactly, so I can't tell whether they've skipped it or not. I wish I could read Japanese better so I could tell WHERE in the novel that scene is. |
Yumekichi11 said: Oh wow when Mayoi declared that she wants to be sexually harassed I was totally off guard. That was quite something I did not think Mayoi would admit to. So it means she does mind you doing anything sexual to her? I wonder what made her become like that? Was it for play or does she have a love interest in Araragi. Is so solely developed by being saved by him or in the course of the time passed in this series? Questions and questions still arise. I seriously doubt that Mayoi has any romantic feelings for Koyomi as there were no hints for that at all. Her disappointment doesn't derive from her missing the feeling of sexual harassment but rather from the fact that the running gag of her getting harassed by him was spoiled. I think we all know how she loves to break the fourth wall so it shouldn't be surprising that she complains about something like that. |
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| Any episode with Senjougahara is brilliant. Her dialogue and interactions with Araragi are delicious. Her face when he reaffirmed his love for her was so very cute. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| I want more Shinobu! She's a wonderful tsundere loli! Now that she's told Araragi where Karen is, he'll probably find Kaiki aswell. Long talk with Senjougahara, I absolutely love her, the sharp pencils made her seem a little more intimidating, but the fact that Hanekawa is 'bullying' her makes her harmless (but then again Hanekawa is smart, she must have something on her). And I'm guessing the request she's going to ask Araragi is to cut her hair like Hanekawa's? Hachikuji and Araragi was great, how dare he act normal instead of the usual pervert he is around Hachikuji! Hahaha, she didn't stutter because of that. |
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Lestrade said: I see so it was the fact she was missing out that sensation whom made her interested in Araragi in the first place. She took the sexual more as playfyl thing and as result of it not being around was bored so decided to act the way she did? I assume that is what it was. Nice clear up still but there is some doubt in her blushes around Araragi, I would therefore question that in terms of romantics feelings.Yumekichi11 said: Oh wow when Mayoi declared that she wants to be sexually harassed I was totally off guard. That was quite something I did not think Mayoi would admit to. So it means she does mind you doing anything sexual to her? I wonder what made her become like that? Was it for play or does she have a love interest in Araragi. Is so solely developed by being saved by him or in the course of the time passed in this series? Questions and questions still arise. I seriously doubt that Mayoi has any romantic feelings for Koyomi as there were no hints for that at all. Her disappointment doesn't derive from her missing the feeling of sexual harassment but rather from the fact that the running gag of her getting harassed by him was spoiled. I think we all know how she loves to break the fourth wall so it shouldn't be surprising that she complains about something like that. |
| Kah, kah. Still sad that our Princess is going to cut her hair any day now. RAGE! |
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| The eps always end when I get excited. Or maybe I'm excited all the time when watching this. :D Okay, Hachikuji's conversation was really short this time, not half an episode! I enjoyed seeing a little more Senjougahara this week. The conversation between Araragi and Senjougahara was so sweet. <3 baka little sister is baka. |
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 Hitagi's so dangerously cute. Shinbou had her cute "ka ka" laugh which made me HHNNGG. Just can't get enough of Nisemonogatari. |
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| Glad that they decided to get shit moving. I would call it an pretty solid episode. I liked the track they played during the scene at Senjougahara's house, it kinda reminded me of Bakemonogatari's ED theme. 4/5 |
| Haha, I expected something along those lines as a request from Senjougahara. Good episode overall even if there's even less action and development than in the first season for now. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| I found it hard to pay attention this episode because of all the Senjougahara Greatness which was due needed!,and finding out Mayoi enjoyed the harassment was pretty funny another wonderful episode~. |
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OK so I did some GIFs whom I put a link but I want to share one moment among them. The following one, only moment that made cringe and fear from Shinobu. When I though that this is how her fangs are like and were when she planted them in her victims to drink blood got me *shivers* A first time TBH of Shinobu. I did cringe in season 1 when she did bite people but nothing as the moment of the GIF shows. Incredible details there. I also mentioned in Another that MOE + horror might be around. IMO that part is a good example. As the MOE was shown like wild of Shinobu, as her teeth showed it makes a viewer IMO either completely wanting to get bitten by Shinobu out of sheer MOE not minding turning into something else for the MOE she provided and in the fact you will be stuck with her. Or it could result something of a weird tingling of repulse. As MOE + vampire fangs don't mix in terms what they do and provide visually when you think about it. Even if MOEfied. That being said this part truly repulse me of her teeth by sheer MOE trolling. Not in bad way. Shinobu with that part is truly becoming a dangerous loli anyone would want to become a vampire to serve gladly more so than before IMO. jpem said: Coming from a ghost I would not be surprised of "Vagueness" being part of Mayoi considering she is a ghost. Strangely enough when she does get serious she looks to have a strong mentality of wise man ROFL! That is my IMO.Yumekichi11 said: Lestrade said: I see so it was the fact she was missing out that sensation whom made her interested in Araragi in the first place. She took the sexual more as playfyl thing and as result of it not being around was bored so decided to act the way she did? I assume that is what it was. Nice clear up still but there is some doubt in her blushes around Araragi, I would therefore question that in terms of romantics feelings.Yumekichi11 said: Oh wow when Mayoi declared that she wants to be sexually harassed I was totally off guard. That was quite something I did not think Mayoi would admit to. So it means she does mind you doing anything sexual to her? I wonder what made her become like that? Was it for play or does she have a love interest in Araragi. Is so solely developed by being saved by him or in the course of the time passed in this series? Questions and questions still arise. I seriously doubt that Mayoi has any romantic feelings for Koyomi as there were no hints for that at all. Her disappointment doesn't derive from her missing the feeling of sexual harassment but rather from the fact that the running gag of her getting harassed by him was spoiled. I think we all know how she loves to break the fourth wall so it shouldn't be surprising that she complains about something like that. It is just banter mostly i wouldn't read into it so much |
| LOL Hatchikuji make parody of Conan. |
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| This arc is quite long, and the anime is only 11 episodes. My god it will take ages for the whole monogatari series to be animated. |
Elite60 said: Hitagi's so dangerously cute. Shinbou had her cute "ka ka" laugh which made me HHNNGG. Just can't get enough of Nisemonogatari. Damn straight! ^^ |
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