Takopii no Genzai Episode 4 Discussion

Jul 18, 10:39 PM

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Junya, you're a real one. You're as goated as Himmel. Thank you for giving Naoki a chance for a better life.

Jul 18, 10:51 PM

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Someone has to say it:

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Jul 18, 11:11 PM

#103

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Shizuka is such an unlikeable bitch she's no better than the people that pushed and bullied her into being that way.

Jul 18, 11:33 PM

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Junya admitting that their mom's pancakes aren't even good was so blunt I couldn't help but crack up a little, but man was it heartbreaking to watch the magic of Naoki's personal holy grail vanish along with her hopes for him.

Still though, it's insane how bright Junya shines as the sols authority figure of this show that's actually decent, let alone heroic.

Jul 18, 11:51 PM

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Naoki got

Also, I didn't expect from Shizuka chan

Jul 19, 12:23 AM

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Amazing ep

It's good that Takopi is using his voice, but sadly those around cannot hear his "voice".

Shizuka got some of the strongest manipulation ever, cause whatchu mean Azuma was back on board after getting so SHOOK in his boots.

No way his mother actually gave up on him like that. True scum of the world. This pain and guilt is simply TOO much for Azuma to bear, he needs a outlet.

OH HELLO NO, now Shizuka telling bro to go in her stead bc she doesn't want to be punished for her (actions in a sense).

Thank lord his brother helped him voice his insecurites and pain. Even told him how some of the things that the mother did weren't as great as they seem. Quite the blessing to be the ONLY good "grown up" in the show and saving Azuma at his very lowest. The animation, the POV’s, simply chef’s kiss.

Really happy that he explained to Azuma how nobody is perfect, even his own mother. I knew those pancakes wasn’t bussing. PUTTING ALL THAT DAMN SYRUP to mask the doodoo taste🤣.

Happy that he came back to his senses and exposed him and her to the police. Ngl Shizuka is quite lucky that she stayed up till break officially start to go to Tokyo with Takopi so early. The police would have gotten to her in the morning.

Now that they are in Tokyo, obviously Chappy "should" be dead off Marina's words so what will Shizuka do now? More importantly, what will Takopi do?

10/10

JayDaAnimeLordJul 19, 4:27 AM

"Hard work is worthless for those that don’t believe in themselves" - Naruto Uzumaki

Jul 19, 12:32 AM

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Trauma. Made my cry until my eyes felt like the desert. 10/10.

Jul 19, 12:43 AM

#108

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In the whole anime and manga(spoiler) azuma's brother got the most least amount of screen time but still his character potrait perfectly and I think he is the most ideal character in this anime. Not only as a brother he reflect the thing a child needs. At the last seen when he knew his brother sin he still remains calm and try to understand azuma's situation, not like his mother who priorities the number over her son condition and mental health.

Jul 19, 12:54 AM

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Kuze is so broken that she either doesn't even know how manipulative she is being, or she just doesn't care anymore... It's sad
I'm glad that Azuma's brother helped him....

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Jul 19, 12:56 AM

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So Junya turns out to be the only normal person so far, and what a great brother he is!
I also have no idea how the trip to Tokyo will go, but I bet it won't have an happy ending.

Jul 19, 12:58 AM

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JustDefending said:
I'm going to start with the positive. Outstanding visual execution, the mise en scene, the composition, everything was perfect.

The problem, the foundation of the story is shackled to the over the top melodrama and narrative whiplash from previous eps.
Azuma mother, again and again, they bring her up in the most dramatic way possible. Stop yelling at us to cry.
Also in the end scene of ep 3, Takopii finally understood the weight of his actions, and started to question himself.
I was hoping that when Shizuka told Azuma to turn himself in, that would be the moment everything built up with Takopii would finally shine.
I was expecting him to speak out, defend Azuma and confront Shizuka that she was in the wrong.
But nothing... The whole ep nothing... he did try a bit at the start and the end but this leads to nothing.
Also, Shizuka’s character development doesn’t make any sense. Unless I’m missing something, it does not.

Animation- 10/10
story- 5/10

The way you judge Takopi’s action is biased because it’s based on your emotion. The story proved over and over again just how innocently ignorant Takopi was. It’s a simple creature that will take a lot of time to understand the complexity of human. So Tapoki’s inaction made a lot of sense.

Shizuka is a kid that became numb to most emotions because of the relentless bullying. For her the only thing keeping her going was her dog, so she would do anything to get her dog. What she did to Azuma made her look heartless, and logically so. That’s how numb to emotion she is. She just wants her dog.

Jul 19, 12:58 AM

#112

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Is there not a single character in this story without horrendous parents? Is it, like, common for Hokkaido parents to be so irrational and neglectful?

Pretend there's something flashy and cool here.

Jul 19, 1:36 AM

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Insane animation. They went absolutely hard. Saw the staff list a couple days before this episode drops and they basically assembled the Avengers. Now we know why.

Jul 19, 2:13 AM

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Junya watanabe on my wri

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Jul 19, 2:45 AM

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I'm going to start with the positive. Outstanding visual execution, the mise en scene, the composition, everything was perfect.

The problem, the foundation of the story is shackled to the over the top melodrama and narrative whiplash from previous eps.
Azuma mother, again and again, they bring her up in the most dramatic way possible. Stop yelling at us to cry.
Also in the end scene of ep 3, Takopii finally understood the weight of his actions, and started to question himself.
I was hoping that when Shizuka told Azuma to turn himself in, that would be the moment everything built up with Takopii would finally shine.
I was expecting him to speak out, defend Azuma and confront Shizuka that she was in the wrong.
But nothing... The whole ep nothing... he did try a bit at the start and the end but this leads to nothing.
Also, Shizuka’s character development doesn’t make any sense. Unless I’m missing something, it does not.

Animation- 10/10
story- 5/10

@JustDefending

JustDefending said:
I was hoping that when Shizuka told Azuma to turn himself in, that would be the moment everything built up with Takopii would finally shine.
I was expecting him to speak out, defend Azuma and confront Shizuka that she was in the wrong.

This basically sums up my frustrations as well. It seems that Takopii only grapples and ponders the situation when the show selectively calls for it. You'd think that after witnessing numerous instances of emotional torment, he gained a better awareness of people's circumstances. For example, when he poses as Marina and sits at the dinner table with her parents, how can he possibly interpret their shouting each other's necks as a sign of love? He may be an alien from planet happiness-only, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't sense something's wrong. We've seen him get beat and stomped by Marina, feel every ounce of malicious gaze from someone that wants you dead. When Takopii rewinds time for a redo, he was so traumatized that he struggled to step out the bathroom to face Marina again. Yet, he's completely oblivious to the same blueprints of abuse displayed by his parents. It feels like Takopii doesn't undergo real development because his attitude lacks nuance.

Jul 19, 2:58 AM

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I think the comments trashing Shizuka are a bit much, with a shit mother & relentless bullying, she never learned to be a functional person. Takopii is the real, albeit unintentional villain here, tipping the dominoes over & setting off everything that has happened so far

Jul 19, 3:09 AM

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Takopi the alien killed off a human child brutally with a weapon and let the children cover up its mess. what Azuma and Shizuka should have done is to knock out Takopi, rip off its flower, and send its ass to prison where it rightfully belongs

Jul 19, 3:20 AM

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Overall, episode 4 showcases Azuma’s psychological state in a very powerful way. I really liked how the visuals, color tone, and camera work from Azuma’s point of view, along with the lighting composition, were all incredibly detailed and well-executed.

Many people say that Shizuka seems psychopathic and manipulative in this episode. However, I don’t think that’s possible given that she’s still a child. Shizuka is simply reacting to the way the world has treated her. I believe if we experienced the kind of bullying Shizuka went through, we might have done something even more extreme.

I don’t think Shizuka is being manipulative — she’s just holding on to the one thing that gives her life meaning: Chappy.

This anime is too complex to pin the blame on any one character.

Jul 19, 3:21 AM

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Overall, episode 4 showcases Azuma’s psychological state in a very powerful way. I really liked how the visuals, color tone, and camera work from Azuma’s point of view, along with the lighting composition, were all incredibly detailed and well-executed.

Many people say that Shizuka seems psychopathic and manipulative in this episode. However, I don’t think that’s possible given that she’s still a child. Shizuka is simply reacting to the way the world has treated her. I believe if we experienced the kind of bullying Shizuka went through, we might have done something even more extreme.

I don’t think Shizuka is being manipulative — she’s just holding on to the one thing that gives her life meaning: Chappy.

This anime is too complex to pin the blame on any one character.

Jul 19, 3:37 AM

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JustDefending said:
I'm going to start with the positive. Outstanding visual execution, the mise en scene, the composition, everything was perfect.

The problem, the foundation of the story is shackled to the over the top melodrama and narrative whiplash from previous eps.
Azuma mother, again and again, they bring her up in the most dramatic way possible. Stop yelling at us to cry.
Also in the end scene of ep 3, Takopii finally understood the weight of his actions, and started to question himself.
I was hoping that when Shizuka told Azuma to turn himself in, that would be the moment everything built up with Takopii would finally shine.
I was expecting him to speak out, defend Azuma and confront Shizuka that she was in the wrong.
But nothing... The whole ep nothing... he did try a bit at the start and the end but this leads to nothing.
Also, Shizuka’s character development doesn’t make any sense. Unless I’m missing something, it does not.

Animation- 10/10
story- 5/10

The way you judge Takopi’s action is biased because it’s based on your emotion. The story proved over and over again just how innocently ignorant Takopi was. It’s a simple creature that will take a lot of time to understand the complexity of human. So Tapoki’s inaction made a lot of sense.

Shizuka is a kid that became numb to most emotions because of the relentless bullying. For her the only thing keeping her going was her dog, so she would do anything to get her dog. What she did to Azuma made her look heartless, and logically so. That’s how numb to emotion she is. She just wants her dog.

@EDOSHINRATENSEI Yep. How can she feel sad and scared about someone who has been making her life miserable and whose death brought liberation to her.
This episode and the ending still solidifies the fact that she just wants her dog plus she gets to enjoy being human and free from pain (ready to party in the summer lol).
Regarding Takopi, didn't it also promise to make Shizuka happy?? I think next episode will explode it's dilemma with wanting to keep Shizuka happy and telling Marina's parents.

Jul 19, 3:40 AM

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Judging the fictional characters as if they were real persons is a bit ridiculous, folks.

They really turned the shows mc upside down, she became manipulative but she doesn't know that it's wrong.
Shizuka is only thinking about the holidays was hilarious at the end XD

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Jul 19, 3:46 AM

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Overall, episode 4 showcases Azuma’s psychological state in a very powerful way. I really liked how the visuals, color tone, and camera work from Azuma’s point of view, along with the lighting composition, were all incredibly detailed and well-executed.

Many people say that Shizuka seems psychopathic and manipulative in this episode. However, I don’t think that’s possible given that she’s still a child. Shizuka is simply reacting to the way the world has treated her. I believe if we experienced the kind of bullying Shizuka went through, we might have done something even more extreme.

I don’t think Shizuka is being manipulative — she’s just holding on to the one thing that gives her life meaning: Chappy.

This anime is too complex to pin the blame on any one character.

@Denkenisme That's my thoughts too. We all gravitate towards others who understand us. In Azuma's case, someone who is doing the things he longed for.
He'll be willing to do anything for that person until another person (brother) steps in to show that he's not alone.
It does look like manipulation but from the characters' point of view it makes sense.

Jul 19, 3:57 AM

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what the fck just happened ? kuze is max level manipulator she might gop toe to toe with kira or johan ..........i have no idea where its going
also
junya is goated but i personally hate people like junya ......... they get maximum output from minimum input , and people who hard work go through like azuma , its so frustrating

Jul 19, 3:59 AM

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Very typical Asian parents at their worst light. Unnerving and very heavy portrayal of guilt and victim of abuse. Probably the best episode so far highlighting Naoki and Shizuka's humanity at its high and low. The animation in this episode in particular is just insane.

Jul 19, 4:13 AM

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Shizuka the manipulator lol

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Jul 19, 4:39 AM

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This episode felt like a brilliantly directed short movie, the smooth and super fluid animation, the amazing use of sounds and colors, and the INSANE photography and camera angles are all top tier.
It was pretty hard to focus on all of that though with azuma's life slowly falling apart in a such soul crashing way and especially seeing shizuka starting to develop sociopathic/psychopathic behavior and tendencies due to her horrible life circumstances that she had no control over whatsoever is genuinely devastating...

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Jul 19, 5:34 AM

#127

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I have experienced few stories that give me this sense of dread, props to the directors this was a masterpiece. The thing that annoys me the most now is that pink bitch alien Takopi....he killed Marina while also breaking the only useful gadget he had from all those bullshit toys and now even after seeing all the events unfolding he still doing fuck all. I wanna see how he is planning to fix this.

THE ONE PIECE IS REAL!!!

Jul 19, 5:36 AM

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IzanaSolos said:
Truly nothing but their fault for not picking up the pace on the whole burying part of the operation, which was literally the most important part, if anything... but yeah, gotta keep the plot moving. And this fucker Takopii, having the nerve to say he wants to “do something” about the whole thing. Dude, you’ve done PLENTY, I can assure you. Nearly gaslit Azuma into turning himself in, of all things. I mean, Shizuka being the Aizen-tier manipulator she is doesn’t make her any better, but sure.

Anyway, stupid plot aside, my GOD THIS EPISODE LOOKED FUCKING AMAZING. HOLY. SHIT. Easily tied with episode one, if not better. Honestly, just in terms of consistency, I’d say it is better. They nailed Azuma’s whole descent, his slow spiral into madness and despair. That scene with him and his mom looked absolutely insane and amazing. Oh, but I guess what isn’t amazing is the fact that Shizuka now gives like, zero fuckkkkks about Azuma. Straight-up told him to turn himself in... LOLL.

Oh, but at least he got a kiss and some reassurance, right?
No.
No.
SHIZUKA IS DEADASS AIZEN LEVELS, I SWEAR.

And fuck Azuma's mom, nothing new there. It was his brother who finally snapped him out of it in the end, and that sequence was yet again, AMAZINGLY FUCKING ANIMATED. HOLY. SHIT.

Ohhh but I mean... yeah, none of that really changes the fact that um, AZUMA IS GONE BRO. It's all up to Takopii and Shizuka now. Off to Tokyo they go!

So it's the boys fault that the Wind carried some of the dirt away? We've seen that they buried the hole part

Jul 19, 5:38 AM

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IzanaSolos said:
Truly nothing but their fault for not picking up the pace on the whole burying part of the operation, which was literally the most important part, if anything... but yeah, gotta keep the plot moving. And this fucker Takopii, having the nerve to say he wants to “do something” about the whole thing. Dude, you’ve done PLENTY, I can assure you. Nearly gaslit Azuma into turning himself in, of all things. I mean, Shizuka being the Aizen-tier manipulator she is doesn’t make her any better, but sure.

Anyway, stupid plot aside, my GOD THIS EPISODE LOOKED FUCKING AMAZING. HOLY. SHIT. Easily tied with episode one, if not better. Honestly, just in terms of consistency, I’d say it is better. They nailed Azuma’s whole descent, his slow spiral into madness and despair. That scene with him and his mom looked absolutely insane and amazing. Oh, but I guess what isn’t amazing is the fact that Shizuka now gives like, zero fuckkkkks about Azuma. Straight-up told him to turn himself in... LOLL.

Oh, but at least he got a kiss and some reassurance, right?
No.
No.
SHIZUKA IS DEADASS AIZEN LEVELS, I SWEAR.

And fuck Azuma's mom, nothing new there. It was his brother who finally snapped him out of it in the end, and that sequence was yet again, AMAZINGLY FUCKING ANIMATED. HOLY. SHIT.

Ohhh but I mean... yeah, none of that really changes the fact that um, AZUMA IS GONE BRO. It's all up to Takopii and Shizuka now. Off to Tokyo they go!

You hate the characters. Yeah, they are meant to be hated on. That's the hole point of the story. 100% realism (except for Takopii ofc)

Jul 19, 5:46 AM

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Fitzel said:

IzanaSolos said:
Truly nothing but their fault for not picking up the pace on the whole burying part of the operation, which was literally the most important part, if anything... but yeah, gotta keep the plot moving. And this fucker Takopii, having the nerve to say he wants to “do something” about the whole thing. Dude, you’ve done PLENTY, I can assure you. Nearly gaslit Azuma into turning himself in, of all things. I mean, Shizuka being the Aizen-tier manipulator she is doesn’t make her any better, but sure.

Anyway, stupid plot aside, my GOD THIS EPISODE LOOKED FUCKING AMAZING. HOLY. SHIT. Easily tied with episode one, if not better. Honestly, just in terms of consistency, I’d say it is better. They nailed Azuma’s whole descent, his slow spiral into madness and despair. That scene with him and his mom looked absolutely insane and amazing. Oh, but I guess what isn’t amazing is the fact that Shizuka now gives like, zero fuckkkkks about Azuma. Straight-up told him to turn himself in... LOLL.

Oh, but at least he got a kiss and some reassurance, right?
No.
No.
SHIZUKA IS DEADASS AIZEN LEVELS, I SWEAR.

And fuck Azuma's mom, nothing new there. It was his brother who finally snapped him out of it in the end, and that sequence was yet again, AMAZINGLY FUCKING ANIMATED. HOLY. SHIT.

Ohhh but I mean... yeah, none of that really changes the fact that um, AZUMA IS GONE BRO. It's all up to Takopii and Shizuka now. Off to Tokyo they go!

You hate the characters. Yeah, they are meant to be hated on. That's the hole point of the story. 100% realism (except for Takopii ofc)

Nahhh Takopi hate is justified that stupid alien could have used the friendship rope thingy on Marina or he could have rewinded time with the camera, helll he could have surprised Marina by jumping outta the bush but nooooo he gottta jump and hit her. Why is so bad at the thing he supposedly was created for???

THE ONE PIECE IS REAL!!!

Jul 19, 6:39 AM

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what an absolute eps

Jul 19, 6:58 AM

#132

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best anime ever!!!

Jul 19, 7:44 AM

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Shizuka is completely in dissociation, out of connection to herself, to others and even to reality. Fight or flight for years on end can do it, maybe since she was born... The only thing real in her life is her dog Chappy. Anyone else, including Azuma and even herself, are not real to her. So she only feels relief from danger over a real death that happens in front of her and does not care about putting the closest person to her in prison, in the same way she didn't care about the bullying in the start of the series. Absolutely detached. I find her character to be a believable, extreme example of a response to abuse. This is how trauma is inherited... In this case, from Marina's mom to Marina to Shizuka. Fortunately it seems Azuma might be off the hook of inheriting trauma from his mom and Shizuka, thanks to Junya. I hope that they succeed in building a secure attachment, the path for real healing.

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Jul 19, 7:58 AM

#134

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i cried a lot, lmao gonna lose my mind watching this show

Jul 19, 8:50 AM

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Shizuka’s personality seems to have changed way too much. Up until episode 3, she came across as pretty dim-witted, even unaware of basic concepts like prison or juvenile detention. But now, she's suddenly manipulating Higashi’s emotions, trying to shift the blame onto him, and even suggesting he be sent to a juvenile facility. I get that it’s a short story collection and they need to keep things moving quickly, but the development felt too unnatural and jarring. The visuals were excellent, but I’d rate the story 5 out of 10.

Jul 19, 9:29 AM

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Iamthewalrus8002 said:
After Marina's death, she's also becoming just like her. Projecting her trauma and only thinking about herself, and it's not wrong to care about your well-being, but she literally manipulates Azuma for her own gains, not a good thing.

I also feel the same way. But, do you think her attitude would be this twisted if she had gotten proper care from her family, or had a normal school life without being bullied every day?

@Rom-Com_lover Yeah, I do think she wouldn't be like this if she had proper care. The parents are the true villains in this story.

Jul 19, 10:22 AM

#137

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the animation was buss

Jul 19, 11:14 AM

#138

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How tf did Shizuka go from being the helpless victim to a calculating villain?? Her asking Naoki to take the fall for her while giving him a kiss and telling him what he wants to hear is some hext level manipulation holy crap 🤯 (It's almost like Shizuka picked up a thing or two from her mom?? Scary 😳).

I am so glad it didn't come to that tho, thank goodness for Junya being there for his little brother. My guy 100% deserves the award for best big brother!!!! 😤

From what it looks like, Naoki told the police the truth isntead of turning himself in.

Wonder how things will turn out for Shizuka going forward... but damn, Takopi really hasn't been much of a help this episode. Hopefully that changes going forward.

Jul 19, 11:18 AM

#139

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I have a feeling that Takopi will save all these people by saying "I have the power to brainwash people for experiments" or something and gets taken by a lab. Happy ending?

So far I am mildly amused by the anime always dialing every emotion to 100 and trying its darned hardest to portray trauma through visual imagery and animation. The story has been quite quasi-predictable so far and the characters just change within a single dramatic scene. Interested on how the conclusion will be reached following this format.

"All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo

Jul 19, 11:21 AM

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NorTheBocchi said:
I really don't understand this anime anymore, but it's really a masterpiece. what a very emotional show.

Stop calling everything a masterpiece just because it makes u cry bro. U said it yourself that don’t understand it

Jul 19, 11:25 AM

#141

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Wow... the threads are all coming untangled. For what it's worth, this is a reflection on a growing problem with societal disintegration. It's easy to point the finger at Shizuku, or the parents, or whatever, but it's all interconnected. We human's are so unbelievably connected and dependent on those connections. For every love there is a hate. For every forgiveness, there is blame, for every connection there is abandonment. Nothing happens in a vacuum. It's when we as the viewer can observe from afar how it all interconnects that we see the bigger picture that those trapped in the scene cannot. Brilliant story, amazing animation, and fantastic story telling of themes of pure humanity. We may not want to see the dark side of life, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist and that there isn't hope of changing it. Good luck Takopi... big challenges ahead.

Jul 19, 12:07 PM

#142

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It's funny seeing all those comments saying that Shizuka is manipulative while we all know she is an mental health state that cannot longer understand "good" from "bad". After being bullying non stop and not knowing what actual love is.
From episode 3 to 4, we have seen Shizuka through Azuma's eyes, HE LOVES HER because she looks like his mom, it's just that. Shizuka does need serious help, but since they are all kids and apparently there is none a fucking responsable adult, they can't do much.

Jul 19, 1:02 PM

#143

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I cried when azuma talk to his brother. Can you imagine azuma not even 10, but he always forced to become like his brother. I mean his grade are not bad tho, he's always get highest score, but that's not enough to surpass his perfect brother. It's not like he's no trying, he's try fkin hard. Yet, his mother never acknowledge that, he just need "nice try, let's get higher grade next time, here your pancakes".
And that's why he feels inferior, he can't step in when shizuka get bullied, he thought he can't do anything right, he don't have the courage to do that.
Azuma brother is like angel here, although it bit late cause azuma already did something bad, but i hope he can help his brother back to right path.

Jul 19, 2:11 PM

#144

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Ts is so hard to watch.

Jul 19, 2:13 PM

#145

juuo

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Junya and Azumas conversation scene made me ugly cry really bad... This is a 10/10 (if the ending doesn't go to shit). What a good show

Jul 19, 3:42 PM

#146

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They really got sloppy with the burial.

Shizuka is a natural at manipulation lmao

Jul 19, 4:33 PM

#147

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I like that they explained the reason why Marina was placed in the casket. Removing the trace of time of murder makes sense. What a masterpiece of an episode. The fact that they used way less humor here made it way more eerie with Azuma's mind spiraling. Can't wait for the next one. Very happy that I haven't read the manga

Jul 19, 6:24 PM

#148

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NorTheBocchi said:
I really don't understand this anime anymore, but it's really a masterpiece. what a very emotional show.

Stop calling everything a masterpiece just because it makes u cry bro. U said it yourself that don’t understand it

@Sahil_Agarwal Ayo, Leave me alone bro, let me enjoy life.

Jul 19, 6:32 PM

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elrukasu

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its fine because the azuma history is so moving

Jul 19, 7:08 PM

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Daath_K

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great episode as always, the direction and symbolism is especially great
also people seems to not get an idea about shizuka true nature and even calling it out of character when it's not

firstly, it's the theme of the series that those childern copy bad stuff from thier parents:
Marina is abusive and hysterical just like her mother
Azuma is judgmental and insecure just like her mother
Shizuka is manipulative and cold just like her mother

secondly, while to some extend it's marina fault she goes this far, the root of her manipulative behaviour is her mother, the things he does to azuma is something she probably learn when her mother is having goog time with her clients (including marina dad's) she knows how to please a man and there is no other way to explain it other than she saw her mother do it

finally, marina gone won't solve her problem at all, even if marina didn't exist in the first place, the core problem is already rooted in shizuka and her family, shizuka is distant, she's so detached to reality, just like with azuma it should be obvious that shizuka keep pushing away people who wanted to help and she doesn't care, if any of you were bullied, make sure to talk to atleast one person, it's hard, but it's not like the world is only filled with bad people, even if it won't solve the bullying entierly having someone to talk is always better, especially when they're kid like this, and for those adults with childern, please take care of your child, be good parents, and try to avoid showing bad habit even if it seems insignificant like swearing because your child WILL copy you

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